Baucham, Grant, Morales, Sproul, and Sproul Jr.: Theology in Dialogue
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2024
- Voddie Baucham, George Grant, Michael Morales, R.C. Sproul and R.C. Sproul Jr. engage in a discussion about theology and topics such as education, discipleship, the solas, and the character of God.
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Baucham nailed that last question!
Voddie always nails it
I love RC but at 42:30, regarding “bibliolatry”
JESUS: Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. *And ye will not come to me,* that ye might have life.
2 Tim 3 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
The Jewish Rabbis worshipped and still worship the text. And there are those in the church who worship the text, not the God of the text.
John 1:1 Gods word is eternal
Christ said teach the congregation make desiple of men😃😃
I also miss RC. He has blessed us many times and still does with his wonderful understanding of the scriptures. Maybe one day we will all meet in glory😁
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Voddie Baucham, George Grant, Michael Morales, R.C. Sproul and R.C. Sproul Jr. engage in a discussion about theology and topics.
The doctrine of these men is God doesn't want to save you. They say God saved them but not you. Well maybe a few others but not you!
No man can come unless the Father draws him. Explained without Calvinist glasses on....
The Bible has taught us that The Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit are the one true God. Each having a different role with the human race. Yet one God.
The Fathers teaches everyone that God exists. Through the creation!
Romans1: 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
NO ONE HAS AN EXCUSE.
The Father is not the saviour, that is the role of the Son, The Messiah, The Lord Jesus, The Christ!
They are taught by the Father as this verse shows: and the Father sends them that believe that God exists to the Son.
It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him comes to me. John 6:45
So when Jesus said that: “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day. John 6:44 It is simple saying that the Father makes all men aware that God exists and sends those who respond to Jesus.
BUT! not all men will respond even though they have no excuse. They know God exists but they made their choice.
For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools Romans 1:21-22
Paul verifies this to Timothy: This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. 1 Timothy 2 : 3-6
The Holy Spirit comes into play in a special way only once a person whom the Father sends to the Son for salvation. Those who willingly desire to be right with God. Those who Repent and are Baptized.
JESUS John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
TRUTH IN LOVE
I love Voddie's face at the end after that incredible mic-drop!!
"gotta stay humble. gotta stay humble. gotta stay ....."
We are translated,we are delivered from the POWER of darkness,then in sanctification enlightened of knowledge then wisdom
Voddie's answer at 15:00 is spot on!!
All fine and good to dialogue about theological topics. But when those dialoguing have no ability to put their theology into practical application themselves it calls into question their sincerity and credibility. Take for example RC Sproul Jr who over the course of his scandalous life has proven himself to be licentious, unrepentant, and a reprobate. Yet year after year his parents prop him up in ministry, giving him a six-figure donor-funded salary. Even after his 1 year paid "suspension" over his Ashley Madison account, then his resignation over a drunk driving (also stoned on opioids) felony conviction, for which Ligonier rewarded him with a massive six-figure golden parachute "severance package," RC Jr arranged to be paid six-figures as an independent contractor. As far as anyone can tell RC Jr continues being paid six-figures by Ligonier to this day. Is Ligonier Ministries a Christian ministry or just the Sproul Family Gravy Train?
While that is certainly a very sad story it calls to mind the fact that the Bible is absolutely packed with people who were unrepentant reprobates despite having faithful parents. Eli's sons were worthless. Samuel's sons did not walk in his ways. Aaron's sons were disobedient. Lot's daughters defied him and defiled him. Many such cases.
I can't imagine the pain as the parent.
@@codyvandal2860 A lot of Christians make the ludicrous assumption that because there are such biblical stories as you mention that it's okay for we as parents to spoil our children and ignore their sin. I would argue just the opposite is the case. The reason the bible contains such stories is as a warning to us. Tragically RC and Vesta Sproul failed to heed those warnings.
@@FledMendotamaybe, you don’t know, was RC Sproul a fallen man as we all are?
@@OlgaSmirnova1 Can you explain what your question has to do with what FledMendota stated? Or are you just deliberately raising a straw man argument?
@@samadams7573 I am saying that RC may have failed raising his son because even being a man of the Lord, he was fallen as we all are, also he failed at some extent, he son has his own will and makes his own decisions.
Preach in the world not the church😀😃
They should discuss Biblical cosmology. What does Bible say about a Firmament? Does the Bible say the earth is spinning or at rest and immovable?
Awesome topic! In fact it's worthy of starting a whole new denomination over -- Church Of Biblical Cosmology. Or just keep it simple -- Church Of Flat Earthers.
Jeremiah 17:5 KJV
“Thus saith the Lord; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the Lord.”
1 John 2:27 KJV
As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him.
“But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.”
Knowledge only brings empty profession. It’s only when we allow the word of God to take root in our heart to bear fruit.
Awesome. Isn’t it a great thing to believe where we belong even when by ourselves yet perceiving THAT WE ARE NEVER ALONE. THATS LOVE.
Free Will..... is the ability to Choose to put Peanut Butter on your toast or jam
Free Will..... is the ability to Choose to buy what cloths like like.
Free Will..... is the ability to Choose who you want to marry.
Free Will..... is the ability to Choose what job you would like to have.
Free Will..... is the ability to Choose what church or no church you want to attend.
So who does all this for the Calvinist ? as they declare that they have "NO FREE WILL".
Its humorous but sad. But they think God must decide Peanut butter or Jam!
They decide to preach and proclaim that they have "NO FREE WILL" by their own FREE WILL!
See the problem?
TRUTH IN LOVE