Can a Gas Mask/Respirator protect you from Smoke?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- I frequently get asked, can a gas mask or respirator protect the wearer from smoke, from both wild fires and house fires. The answer is a little complicated.
Respirators with particulate filters can block smoke and respirators with chemical vapour filters can block hazardous fumes from fires, a combination filter can protect the wearer from both but no gas mask with filters can give the wearer oxygen or decent protection from carbon monoxide.
A supplied air respirator or rebreather would be needed in an area with high concentrations of carbon monoxide or low oxygen due to a fire, however for the most part, outside in open air, a regular respirator with filters would offer far better protection, especially if the wearer is evacuating the area than no mask at all.
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Wildfires: get larger
Coronavirus:Spreads
Gasmask owners: *Ive been looking forward to this!*
Phew I found it.. I got away from the bongs
I just wanted to say I appreciate the time you take to make daily videos and reply to comments
Glad you like them.
IKR
I’ve wore my Canadian gas mask to make a repair to a woodstove pipe. It allowed me to see without my eyes watering and choking on smoke.
Good.
My roomie made an oopsie with the oven’s self-cleaning mode. We spend an hour and a half controlling the smoke.
After ten minutes I ran to get my gas mask because the smoke was burning my eyes and lungs.
They all thought I was a nutter for having a gas mask. Today… they learned that when you need it and don’t have it, you really want it.
They have all purchased orders for their own masks now.
Thank-you. Meanwhile Australia is burning 🥵😷
(StealthCamp) meanwhile COVID-19 is here (also covid month)
@@infinityzer054 ya i am
I've tested this by standing directly downwind from a bonfire with various masks (M40, 4A1, GP5) and it actually worked pretty dang well, even with the M40's filter being expired. We were burning aluminum, diesel, plastic, you name it.
The other guys at the party were a little freaked out though.
Yeah the interesting thing is filters don't just expire outright, often they reduce the amount of stuff going through which makes them useless for military gas use but still useful for reduction from various things.
Weaponsandstuff93 Which is why I never toss them.
Username checks out.
Nit picking, but firefighters wear compressed *air* tanks, not oxygen tanks. There actually is a big difference.
Yeah I have already have several people inform me but thanks anyway.
Great knowledge thank you for your input cheers mate!!
Thanks
I can tell ur an australian and I respect you for it
You more eloquently explained what I told my friend about this question.
“The filter on your gas mask might stop smoke. It might stop some toxic gasses. It cannot manufacture oxygen; if the environment is completely anoxic, you will perish with slightly cleaner poison than otherwise.
Great, helpful video. I live in the states and was thinking about photographing protests and such. I think I'll be bringing some full face masks and ABEK/3M filters along with me if I do.
Hey, What type of mask would I need to be in a close building to not have to breath cigarette, weed and other drugs burning.
Thanks for the informative video
I heard Drager makes great Abek 40mm filters
Yes most companies that make filters make ABEK filters.
nice video, i always wondered about this and what type of filter you would need. thanks!!!!
Glad it was helpful.
I bought a 'Fire Mask'. Comes in a red box with a set of heat resistant gloves. It's a hood you pull over your head with an elastic around the neck, then you cinch up the filter and you have up to one hour to breath in toxic environments. Silver on the outside to reflect some heat. There are also Fireballs. You throw them at a fire and they break and release chemical to put out a small fire. Just found a stash of P100 valve respirator masks on Amazon Canada that everybody missed at regular prices, oh joy, I need a life!
Only issue with the fire hoods is they normally use a chemical reaction rather than a filter to work.
Only issue with a full face gas mask plus filters plus gloves is how do you carry this in your EDC if you work in an office. You need a whole backpack. This kit is for emergency evacuation not long term. Plus this covers the whole head with heat reflection to help keep your brain from cooking. Imagine storing gas masks for office buildings compared to square boxes, easy to handle out. And then there is the cost. $35 vs ($250 for a full face, $40 for filters, $20 for gloves) for an office of 50-100+. Then the most important of all. I have a beard. And wear glasses. Big problem with you mask for me and half the world
Fire hoods may not melt like rubber stuff either
what about second hand smoking to were home ? what is the cheapest multiple use mask that lasts a lot of time to get for second hand smoking?
An A2P3 filter is ideal for that purpose, in my experience. For the cheapest options, look for a half mask that can use filters labelled as such.
Good day! A question, when wearing a 3M 6001 cartridge plus 5N11 N95 particulate filter attachment, are you supposed to be able to smell vape vapor, gasoline, perfume, or smoke through it?
Cause I do when I wear mine :<
Im not sure if im expecting too much of it, or if its counterfeit because of the shortage due to the pandemic
It means your not wearing it properly
I cant even smell smoke from wildfires using 6001 cartridge but you have to wear it tight around your mouth and nose.
It's an A1 filter, so it could just be expired. An A2 filter like the 3M 6055 would be longer-lived, so you could try switching to one of those.
Although like the person above said, it sounds more like it isn't fitting properly. E.g. if you have a bad shave or the silicone surface is dirty. Alternatively the ports might be defective.
So, in a nutshell, no gas mask can protect you from the fumes that linger after cigarette smoke has visually dissipated? I have allergic asthma and am looking for a way to protect myself from cigarette smoke in public.
The majority of the fumes would be stopped by an ABEKP3 filter, some may get through though, you'd technically need a self contained breathing apparatus to be safe from all types of smoke.
im trying to imagine you walking around wearing a gas mask
Also this would depend where, is this indoors, outdoors, etc?
bust out a fucking gas mask
I had the same issue in the past, and in my case, wearing a simple A2P3 filter combined with a half mask (3M 7500 series mask + 6055 filter + 5935 filter with an adapter) was enough to completely eliminate cigarette smoke odor and all undesirable physiological effects. Note however that it will not eliminate all unhealthy gases, such as carbon monoxide, nor polonium. A full face mask combined with an A2B2E2K2 CO P3 filter would be better, and an SCBA with a hazmat suit would protect from everything. Based on your phrasing, though, I imagine any mask with a A2P3 filter would likely suffice.
When severe wildfires two states away make this video personally relevant. Climate Change, folks.
Some of the fires have been started by deliberate arson though.
GREETING FROM AUSTRALIA! Plenty of this season's bushfires/wildfires have been the work of arsonists - from 12 year olds, crazy people and would you believe: volunteer firefighters!
Has nothing to do with Climate Change.
Can a mask like this inhibit my presentation?.....Yes, it can. The answer is to take the thing off when talking but you need to be at genius level to have figured that one out.
Isn't it also worth noting that fires use up the oxygen in the room? So in a burning building it doesn't matter if you can filter the air when there is none. This is why firefighters have their own oxygen supplies in addition to the reasons you gave in the video
Unless i'm mistaken?
In a wide open space that's not a problem, in confined spaces it could be an issue but I imagine burning or choking to death would always happen first.
It just be the toxicity of the air that would be fatal, not the lack of it. Fire requires 3 elements to keep going, Oxygen, heat and fuel. Remove any one of these and you have no fire. So technically if you have no oxygen (or air) in a room you have no fire.
I checked some research articles and it seems that residential fires rarely involve significantly lowered oxygen concentrations. And the biggest risk in residential fires is carbon monoxide intoxication, so filtering out CO does buy you some time. That said, fires do release high concentrations of CO2, and there's no practical way to filter it out, which is why SCBAs are always going to be the best option if you need to linger around.
@@VVayVVard Ye, hold your breath and leg it in any case ;w;
A w65 respirator will filter out carbon monoxide but they are over a 1000 bucks
What is ur favorite gas mask
Will a FP-5 filter protect against smoke?
As well as any filter will, so partially.
Why not just use a micro/carbon hybrid filter?
I'm going to be working in electrical wire coiling and I'll have burn the enamle, insulation, plastic layers off the ends of some wires. Just looking for a good mask. Any suggestions?
And cool vid
So what respirator with what filters would you recommend to filter smoke from wildfires? I keep getting headaches from the smoke that's lingering over my town.
You can't totally block everything in the smoke, I've already done lots of videos on this channel about recommended masks so watch one of those and choose what's right for you.
Late comment, but with an ABEK P3 CO or A2B2E2K2 P3 CO filter you can filter pretty much everything and reduce CO significantly. Some Dräger filters have these properties. VK-450 filters are another good option.
Most full-face models will get the job done. Ones with 40 mm filter ports (sometimes labeled RD 40, DIN 40, or EN148-1) are compatible with a wider range of filters.
Also, silicone, while very resistant to degradation, is more permeable to gases than other rubbers (~50x more compared to halobutyls and EPDM, and many times more than latex) which means that if you stay in a smoke-ridden area for longer than 30~80 minutes (depending on the thickness of the silicone at its thinnest points as well as the permeability of the compound) minute levels of gaseous compounds may begin to seep through the rubber, and the mask will continue to outgas them for some time. This effect is especially notable for small compounds and compounds that are highly soluble in silicone. On that note, the simplest way to remove unwanted gases rapidly from silicone, and other rubbers as well, is by 'baking' them out using an oven at a temperature slightly below the boiling point of water, using only the lower heating element, placing aluminum foil below to protect the mask from radiant heat.
As for specific models with 40 mm ports, I personally like the Scott Vision series masks, which have wide panoramic visors with good optics. The C50 is also a great option if you can find one.
Would you mind linking where one would buy the P3 particulate filters on the 3M mask? Also great and interesting videos.
www.amazon.co.uk/3M-2135-Particulate-Filter-6000/dp/B01N06TQSV/ref=sr_1_4?crid=3S2XKM7YITTPV&keywords=3m+p3+filter&qid=1561537394&s=gateway&sprefix=3m+p3+%2Caps%2C149&sr=8-4
and
www.amazon.co.uk/Pairs-3M-6000-Particulate-Filters/dp/B00SOKSH0I/ref=sr_1_5?crid=3S2XKM7YITTPV&keywords=3m+p3+filter&qid=1561537394&s=gateway&sprefix=3m+p3+%2Caps%2C149&sr=8-5
something I will point Out here I have used an air compressor many times to refill a fire extinguisher when I was employed by the fire rescue academy one day I used a speical air compressor to refill scba bottles I have never used an oxygen compressor and I would think if there is a device like that I am sure you must be very careful because oxygen explodes!! a firefighting tank is bascally the same as a scuba tank contains special compress air the only major difference is that the scuba tanks are rated for underwater use!
Canadian Prepper spoke of a filter that convertes the carbon monoxide to carbon dioxide (les toxic) Do you know something about them ?
I was wondering about that, thanks. I should get myself an oxygen supply tank for masks somewhen...
If you can get one without spending loads of money it would be very useful.
Just a curious question, don't ask: Can my GP-5 protect from chlorine gas?
Yes, but soviet filters sometimes contain asbestos.
If you swap the filter you will be safe but soviet filter is confirmed to contain asbestos and it probably won't protect you from anything but bad smell
With a modern filter yes if the valves still work.
If the valves are intact it won't magically break with a new filter on.
Some dipshit on /k/ did that and his skin fell off so...
What would you reccomend for plastic which is heated to 220 degrees burning giving off fumes and smoke?
Thanks
If you can't use a fume hood etc, an ABEK-P3 filter
ok sry but the use of smoke grenade... will a Israeli filter stop me from choking on the smoke?
Yes because the particle filter blocks smoke.
I have a question, is there an adapter from 40 mm canister to bayonet connection from 3m cartridges?
Yes but I've never seen them for sale cheap so never tried them.
Weird question not sure if I’ll get a response, but can I use a gas mask that is designed for bongs, can I convert it into a regular well working gas mask effective against corona virus and such things?
I would recommend just buying a gas mask but theoretically you could. Not that I am suggesting you should convert a bong gas mask, and you'd have to buy filters anyways.
Will it filter radioactive particulate
Yes
Good i need a mask for my shelter
Also heat. The smoke is hot enough to burn the inside of your lungs and eyes. The mask will help with that alone. I'd rather the mask take that damage than my eyes, face, and lungs.
The mask filter isn't going to cool down the air by a massive degree though.
1:58 I'm a gardener and I use machinery such as mowers, strimmers etc. I'm looking for a respirator and filter that will protect from low levels of CO from the exhaust fumes. Could you recommend any?
Regular filters won't protect from carbon monoxide you need a specialised filter that technically is not even a filter but a chemical reaction scrubber but they do apparently lower the amount a tiny bit in ventilated spaces. So for gardening you'd only really make use of a particulate respirator to prevent inhalation of grass dust etc
@@Weaponsandstuff93
Thanks for your reply. It's the carbon monoxide in the exhaust fumes that I'm a little bit concerned about. Since I work outdoors and the levels of CO in exhaust fumes would be minimal compared to smoke all I need is the chemical reaction filter that you mentioned. Can you suggest any respirators and filters that suit my requirements and where I could get them. Looking all over the Internet and I'm getting nowhere. Thanks again.
@@jamesplunkett8126 Filters: Dräger CO NO filters or VK-450 filters for combined filtration; the Ekastu special filter DIRIN 500 60 CO-P3R D is better for CO specifically.
Respirator: virtually anything with a 40 mm port will do.
Whos here from the California wildfires?
Do you know a name of a proper air supplied respirator that I can get? If you do please reply.
No idea, just look at firefighter masks or SCBA masks.
I could understand him better if he took the mask off when he talked.
Is there a difference between p3 and p100?
Both essentially the same just different standards used by countries. USA standard is P100 and European countries standard is P3.
No, it won't protect me from smoke
This video would be helpful to many people with the fact that California is on fire right now.
Hopefully
Air tank/cylinder/bottle. Not oxygen.
I have a dude, someone knows the difference between M74 and M85 gas mask?
And do you know if there are safety (the filter and the masks)?
Sorry but I new in this world, I found that channel searching if a gas mask protect against radiation.
Both of those are the Romanian masks yes?
M85 is the M74 with a drinking tube I think, I have neither.
Thanks!
Yeah, both are Romanian. Yes, the M85 has a drinking tube, but all other seems same.
Do you think that these masks have asbestos or other nocive components?
and unless you are using a very old filter or a soviet filter they wont have asbestos
pretty sure
I am new to your channel and I have a question what face mask would you recommend me?’?!? I work in a cold area and I am
Near water were I stand near for 3 hours. I am pregnant and I don’t want to smell the water because I am having a baby?!?!? Thank you!!!!
Any half face mask with ABEKP3 filters should be fine, you can probably get a 3M or similar brand in a hardware store with those filters for not much money.
Were you born in the dark or merely adopted?
Can the respirator protect you from tear gas? I’m not planning on using it for that but I’m curious 😂
Yes
First!
SGEE_2007 do you know how little anyone cares
Yhea i now!
Take off the mask and talk
PLEASE REPLY ARE THERE VIRUS MASKS? OR A VIRUS FILTER! PLEASE ANSWEAR
I've answered you several times, learn to read!
Dont disturb the gasmask lord
Lmao dumbass
If your ignorant enough to not listen then find out for yourself