one of my friends wanted a gp-5 ( don't know why ), I got on ebay and look for some, the descriptions all say FILTERS 100% SAFE I told him don't believe that. Just saved him from lung cancer
One thing to be aware of is that natural rubber does have a finite lifespan. It is not the same as plastic that takes forever to break down. Rubbers have volatile components that dry out over time. This is why you'll have seen rubber that has began to crack and crumble. There are likely special products on the market to help preserve old rubber things, which antique collectors should be aware of.
The only note on the surplus masks having expired filters, make sure you can readily get new filters. shouldn't be a problem for most masks as they have standardized filters, but some have filters that are hard to get, like the Avon M50 or some older models made before the current standard or masks with filters made in countries that might be embargoed should the world hit the fan.
Because gloves get damaged and oil soaked and otherwise fucked up during use. Troops don't just sit around and cosplay anime and movie characters, they have to work and fight. Doffing the top of a chem suit or doffing a coverall chem suit to change gloves in the middle of your work day in a contaminated area would be dangerously negligent. OTOH troops can swap gloves (and spot decon their briefly exposed skin if needed) and continue the mission. Glove fit is of course an issue because fixing aircraft (my career) requires tactile feel thick gloves for other missions do not provide.
GP-4u. Soviet-made, 1974. Factory-sealed filters, their rubber caps were never ever opened. Rubber just sealed to the filter cases. They worked fine in 1996 - we painted car inside out using them. No acetone/paint solvent aromas passed through. Just slightly more than 20 years. You are absolutely right, sir! Edit: caps were factory attached to the filters with a slight solvent to adhere to the case. That's the point. I wonder who's downvoted this video?..
I have the exact same chinese TF1 filter (came free with a mask I was going to use in a paint booth). The filter has a 3 year shelf life and the October 2017 date stamped on the side is the date of manufacture. The filter itself hasn't expired. It's just a garbage filter. I have ordered replacements for mine.
I recently asked if it was weird that my Shalon 4A1 smelled like smoke. I went to the store it was from, and I know why. The owner of the store smokes his pipe in the store constantly. The whole store smells like it. I also bought an MSA MCU-2/P and it smells the same. Thanks for the response last time I asked.
Beware of what seems "common" sense as sense is NOT common. Study military CBRN procedures because a mask is only a component of a protection system. Study self-decon and spot decon. Learning the basics takes serious study, so study seriously if you expect to need CBRN protection.
You sir shud be a lecturer. I've been watching thru one by one, did till I clicked on ur channel n video section n realised how much contents u gt. That's when I realise I gotta sub ur channel so I can resume where I last left off. I'm looking thru ur merchandise section to pick one I really wanna get. Keep up great work man👌😎
14:12 actual useful info starts about here, kind of affirm my suspicion that I was right in not giving my mask back to the government, now all I need to do is buy a proper filter and I can be reasonably Corona proof.(although hosing it down after might me a bit of a pain due to how bulky it is, but its better to go overkill than have nothing...
Hey Liam i collect Nike Air Jordans got over 100 pairs im gonna cut a few pairs up and make gas masks out of them like the AT-AT and Darth Vadar when i wear a few pairs out i have over £20,000 worth of Jordans alone.
because i buy trainers and military surplus instead of buying crack and wizz Liam ive been clean now 18yrs.When i was homeless i had nothing so called friends are fkn wankers i put a few of them in a box fella well the ones that got me hooked and evicted from a flat my gramp left me and i dont give a flyers what their families think im Andy say fk all though.
Thanks for making, yet another, brilliant video! Where I work, we sell a variety of rubber composites and artificial rubber, in different formats. Regular black rubber (added carbon is usually what makes it black) wouldn't last nearly as long as black nitrile, for example, in a hot environment. Going by that knowledge, it seems evident that the materials any mask is made from will obviously affect its shelf life. Also, the conditions a mask is kept in, such as temperature and sun exposure, will also have an impact on their durability. I presume mask manufacturers don't tell everyone what their masks are made from, other than the generic use of the term "rubber".
@@Weaponsandstuff93 That's what I figured. They wouldn't want other companies copying their products. Unfortunately, that slightly impedes people's ability to make informed decisions. Although, I also realise most people don't even realise there is more than one product that gets called "rubber".
@weaponsandstuff93 where do you get all your gas masks at and also on your M1 gas mask review how do you use the straps with no problem its hard for me to use the straps on my M1
eBay. Do you mean the MM1 respirator or the Yugoslavian M1? Simply loosen the straps before putting it on and then tighten the straps in pairs after it's on.
Weapons I'm A Gas Mask Person Too And The Gas Mask Is A Very Old Equipment That Are Used For Keeping Out Harmful Gases And Harmful Chemicals In The Air And There's Many Reason's Gas Mask's Were Invented.
If u ask me , Liam is only one PROFESIONAL on youtube about gas masks/respirators Btw , i bought my FM 12 for 17 $ and it's brand new . . wierd but whatever
Hi remember winter and doge who kept commenting yeah I decided not to use that account this is now my account and my S10 makes a thudding sound when i exhale now the exhale valve seems to be sitting fine but its so annoying I barley think about it now or wear it and before I did but no it's just so annoying.😕
Weaponsandstuff93 well I tried with a filter and none but there's still a sound but when no first got it it never made that sound after I washed it it began happening
I have a question not related to the video but I was wondering what’s the difference between RD40 and 40 mm NATO threads or are they the same thing. Couldn’t find anything on it on the internet and was looking into this full face Dräger mask for working in my workshop. You seem like the right person to answer this dilemma of mine.
RD40 as in the industrial filters? As far as I'm aware they are the exact same thing as 40mm NATO, 40mm NATO came first and lots of the same companies making masks and filters designed civilian or industrial masks with a 40mm thread, they called it RD40 I guess because it might sound weird to civilians looking for a work respirator that says 40mm NATO STANAG. I have a P3 filter that's technically RD40 that I use when dealing with fibreglass insulation, connectors absolutely fine to my NATO masks.
Yes over time "clean" air will still break down a filter, there is always dust in the air that will slowly clog a particle filter as well as various vapours in the air that will slowly get adsorbed by the charcoal.
I got a polish OM-14 and made sure to clean the mask. Im not planning on using the filter; not even the hose since its really hard to clean it up. Should i worry about the mask's age? The backpack says its from '89. I dont care wether the mask WORKS; i just want to know if its safe to use for cosplay purposes.
Is it possible to wear a miniature gas mask under a full face one?if not what would a soldier do if their gas mask was compromised in the mist of battle what would they do/what would happen
What Gas Mask would you recommend that would be good for people if something went bad in a and then the wind pushed it to different countries as well as the filter? Like a radiation leak for example?
Well any modern mask with a modern filter would be fine for that. If you check my videos out on mask recommendations that will show you some of my favourite choices.
I decided to wear my gas mask around, and decided to take a filter.. My first filter I got, the one I talked about when I first discovered this channel. But it kinda stinks, when I breath with my nose. I don't know why is it happening, but I did use that filter when I had to go to a room; my sister made some fucking noodles and they stink so much I actually almost throw up, so could be that or something else.
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Your videos are relaxing af to watch man, feeds my apocalyptic nuclear war fantasy.
Glad you like them.
I can’t stop watching these videos
Cool.
XD its 11 pm and im still watching
I remember seeing one of those prepping guide websites saying the GP5 uses 60mm filters and that you need an adapter for it 😂
they do a bit of trolling
It’s hurts how wrong they are
one of my friends wanted a gp-5 ( don't know why ), I got on ebay and look for some, the descriptions all say FILTERS 100% SAFE I told him don't believe that. Just saved him from lung cancer
Yeah don't trust people selling GP-5 filters to be honest about them.
One thing to be aware of is that natural rubber does have a finite lifespan. It is not the same as plastic that takes forever to break down. Rubbers have volatile components that dry out over time. This is why you'll have seen rubber that has began to crack and crumble. There are likely special products on the market to help preserve old rubber things, which antique collectors should be aware of.
Yes silicone lubricant can be used to preserve rubbers.
Great video, shuts down the know it all people in the comments
Thanks
But i *actually* red on a wiki page that...
The only note on the surplus masks having expired filters, make sure you can readily get new filters. shouldn't be a problem for most masks as they have standardized filters, but some have filters that are hard to get, like the Avon M50 or some older models made before the current standard or masks with filters made in countries that might be embargoed should the world hit the fan.
1st question: Why don't NBC suits have the gloves built into them?
2nd: Do you have a German M2000?
1. Some do but most don't due to glove sizes and that you can customise gloves based on thickness for different roles etc.
2. No.
thanks
Because gloves get damaged and oil soaked and otherwise fucked up during use. Troops don't just sit around and cosplay anime and movie characters, they have to work and fight. Doffing the top of a chem suit or doffing a coverall chem suit to change gloves in the middle of your work day in a contaminated area would be dangerously negligent. OTOH troops can swap gloves (and spot decon their briefly exposed skin if needed) and continue the mission. Glove fit is of course an issue because fixing aircraft (my career) requires tactile feel thick gloves for other missions do not provide.
14:13 in case you still interested, 2017, 10 is the manufacture date, expiration date is 3 years if sealed, which would be October, 2020...
GP-4u. Soviet-made, 1974. Factory-sealed filters, their rubber caps were never ever opened. Rubber just sealed to the filter cases.
They worked fine in 1996 - we painted car inside out using them. No acetone/paint solvent aromas passed through.
Just slightly more than 20 years. You are absolutely right, sir!
Edit: caps were factory attached to the filters with a slight solvent to adhere to the case. That's the point.
I wonder who's downvoted this video?..
Good to know how good some of that old equipment is. I have a few subs who dislike every video, maybe they are masochists.
Good hard to find info! I love your videos.
I have the exact same chinese TF1 filter (came free with a mask I was going to use in a paint booth).
The filter has a 3 year shelf life and the October 2017 date stamped on the side is the date of manufacture.
The filter itself hasn't expired. It's just a garbage filter. I have ordered replacements for mine.
Yeah the surface area of the filter is too small for the charcoal to actually adsorb well.
I recently asked if it was weird that my Shalon 4A1 smelled like smoke. I went to the store it was from, and I know why. The owner of the store smokes his pipe in the store constantly. The whole store smells like it. I also bought an MSA MCU-2/P and it smells the same. Thanks for the response last time I asked.
What flavour tobacco does he smoke in his pipe?
I really miss cigars and pipes.
Weaponsandstuff93
I wish I could tell you. I'll try to ask if I go back.
Incense too, got a soda one day & can had a funny aftertaste/ smell .-dont burn around food or drink.
Good video.
I'm amazed that some people may not know about these things.
Common sense really IMHO!
+bodipsypha Yeah there's a lot of misinformation when it comes to respirators.
Beware of what seems "common" sense as sense is NOT common. Study military CBRN procedures because a mask is only a component of a protection system. Study self-decon and spot decon. Learning the basics takes serious study, so study seriously if you expect to need CBRN protection.
@@obfuscated3090 good point.
You sir shud be a lecturer. I've been watching thru one by one, did till I clicked on ur channel n video section n realised how much contents u gt. That's when I realise I gotta sub ur channel so I can resume where I last left off. I'm looking thru ur merchandise section to pick one I really wanna get.
Keep up great work man👌😎
14:12 actual useful info starts about here, kind of affirm my suspicion that I was right in not giving my mask back to the government, now all I need to do is buy a proper filter and I can be reasonably Corona proof.(although hosing it down after might me a bit of a pain due to how bulky it is, but its better to go overkill than have nothing...
Hey Liam i collect Nike Air Jordans got over 100 pairs im gonna cut a few pairs up and make gas masks out of them like the AT-AT and Darth Vadar when i wear a few pairs out i have over £20,000 worth of Jordans alone.
Why not sell them?
because i buy trainers and military surplus instead of buying crack and wizz Liam ive been clean now 18yrs.When i was homeless i had nothing so called friends are fkn wankers i put a few of them in a box fella well the ones that got me hooked and evicted from a flat my gramp left me and i dont give a flyers what their families think im Andy say fk all though.
Thank you so much, for gas masks tips I even have one!
Question, how do you clean them? How do you keep the rubber from cracking? Use petroleum jelly to rub it in?
Petroleum is bad for masks, use silicone lubricant or similar.
Thanks for making, yet another, brilliant video!
Where I work, we sell a variety of rubber composites and artificial rubber, in different formats. Regular black rubber (added carbon is usually what makes it black) wouldn't last nearly as long as black nitrile, for example, in a hot environment. Going by that knowledge, it seems evident that the materials any mask is made from will obviously affect its shelf life. Also, the conditions a mask is kept in, such as temperature and sun exposure, will also have an impact on their durability. I presume mask manufacturers don't tell everyone what their masks are made from, other than the generic use of the term "rubber".
Some will state butyl etc but often it's trade secrets exactly what the rubber composition is
@@Weaponsandstuff93
That's what I figured. They wouldn't want other companies copying their products. Unfortunately, that slightly impedes people's ability to make informed decisions. Although, I also realise most people don't even realise there is more than one product that gets called "rubber".
@weaponsandstuff93 where do you get all your gas masks at and also on your M1 gas mask review how do you use the straps with no problem its hard for me to use the straps on my M1
eBay.
Do you mean the MM1 respirator or the Yugoslavian M1?
Simply loosen the straps before putting it on and then tighten the straps in pairs after it's on.
Weapons I'm A Gas Mask Person Too And The Gas Mask Is A Very Old Equipment That Are Used For Keeping Out Harmful Gases And Harmful Chemicals In The Air And There's Many Reason's Gas Mask's Were Invented.
+[Thatoneguy] Thatoneguy that's a very that one guy comment.
Weaponsandstuff93 yep my thoughts exactly
If u ask me , Liam is only one PROFESIONAL on youtube about gas masks/respirators
Btw , i bought my FM 12 for 17 $ and it's brand new . . wierd but whatever
That's a great price for it and thanks.
I will buy 3 more of FM 12 , just to have , bcz it's really good price and it's pretty much cheap
17$? Wow that's good. Bought another one last week for 50$ :d
Cipri Cipri , Man it's not even 17 $ , i checked out site again and it's 15$ now . . if i had more money i would buy 3-4 more FM 12-s
What site would that be? :)
Do you have a PMK-2 in your collection?
I'd like to see a vid of one!
Nope.
Weaponsandstuff93 dang
Is that a map of Skyrim on the wall behind you?
Yes
Can you buy/replace the filters in a mask that has cheek filters?
Hi remember winter and doge who kept commenting yeah I decided not to use that account this is now my account and my S10 makes a thudding sound when i exhale now the exhale valve seems to be sitting fine but its so annoying I barley think about it now or wear it and before I did but no it's just so annoying.😕
+GAMING WITH DOGE YT Most masks make noise when breathing through them, are you using a filter with it?
Is it a small popping sound when you exhale , if so I also have this problem
Just_Xiva it is yeah
Weaponsandstuff93 well I tried with a filter and none but there's still a sound but when no first got it it never made that sound after I washed it it began happening
Hellstorm Cerberus.the noise is probably the valve flaps sticking on the valves, Try new valve flaps, you can usually find them on ebay
I have a question not related to the video but I was wondering what’s the difference between RD40 and 40 mm NATO threads or are they the same thing. Couldn’t find anything on it on the internet and was looking into this full face Dräger mask for working in my workshop. You seem like the right person to answer this dilemma of mine.
RD40 as in the industrial filters? As far as I'm aware they are the exact same thing as 40mm NATO, 40mm NATO came first and lots of the same companies making masks and filters designed civilian or industrial masks with a 40mm thread, they called it RD40 I guess because it might sound weird to civilians looking for a work respirator that says 40mm NATO STANAG. I have a P3 filter that's technically RD40 that I use when dealing with fibreglass insulation, connectors absolutely fine to my NATO masks.
Weaponsandstuff93
Thank you so much
I have to ask, can a filter breakdown if used in clean air? There has to be a point where it becomes unusable
Yes over time "clean" air will still break down a filter, there is always dust in the air that will slowly clog a particle filter as well as various vapours in the air that will slowly get adsorbed by the charcoal.
I got a polish OM-14 and made sure to clean the mask. Im not planning on using the filter; not even the hose since its really hard to clean it up. Should i worry about the mask's age? The backpack says its from '89. I dont care wether the mask WORKS; i just want to know if its safe to use for cosplay purposes.
Totally safe for Cosplay.
thanks for the reply! :D
Is it possible to wear a miniature gas mask under a full face one?if not what would a soldier do if their gas mask was compromised in the mist of battle what would they do/what would happen
Nope wearing one mask would break the seal of the other mask, if your mask is compromised you die.
What Gas Mask would you recommend that would be good for people if something went bad in a and then the wind pushed it to different countries as well as the filter? Like a radiation leak for example?
Well any modern mask with a modern filter would be fine for that. If you check my videos out on mask recommendations that will show you some of my favourite choices.
@@Weaponsandstuff93 Thank you for that
Great vid keep it up
Thanks.
Hey I have a quick question.what size mask do you have. I'm asking because I'm going to order some and I just want to make sure
I'm normally a medium or size 2 on most masks.
Medium fits average face
EBay is the best app to get a gas mask but I don't know the best app to get a filter
(Off topic) Do you know of any NBC filters that can work on a GP 5?
Scott_noots 9/11 I think Fp-5 filters
40mm
Modern ones that work are Polish FP-5 filters.
Cheers comrades
Buy a better gasmask
would a gp5 be an ok alternative for a half-face respirator?
Only with modern filters on it.
Weaponsandstuff93 Obviously. I was just concerned about the aging
I have tf1 gas mask
Cool
I decided to wear my gas mask around, and decided to take a filter..
My first filter I got, the one I talked about when I first discovered this channel.
But it kinda stinks, when I breath with my nose. I don't know why is it happening, but I did use that filter when I had to go to a room; my sister made some fucking noodles and they stink so much I actually almost throw up, so could be that or something else.
No idea I've never had weird smelling masks or filters except a slight bit of rubber smell from masks.
Yea, I do also get the smell from the rubber masks. But the filter is just weird.
Should be a nice rubbery smell
the mask doesn't deteriorate the filters do
Does anyone know how long do gas mask filters last if left opened?
Depends what they are exposed to, could be anywhere between days or months.
How much is your gas mask collection worth approximately?
No idea.
Fair enough, probably hard to keep track of it with that amount
Retail price £950 i paid £240
2 masks so far this is a expensive hobby
Hi again, You probably don't remember me. I used to watch your videos when my channel name was ZapGirl TH-cam.
Why did you start to collect respirators
It was in my 1st Q&A video, because I find them cool.
Hypothetical. The world goes total metro 2033 what's your go to mask to last the very many years for the atmosphere to recover.
The Avon CT12 is my favourite mask so I'd just use that.
See username
You should do a video about your whole gas mask collection
As I've said many times, simply impossible due to the number of masks, I have to break the collection down into national collections.
Can a gas mask last longer than expected like is that even possible
Well yeah as most masks only have a factory guarantee of a few years
You look like mr bean LOL
Anglo
Do you know da wae -Ugandan Knuckles
You must have Ebola -Ugandan Knuckles
GAMING WITH DOGE YT
This is not really that type of channel his channel is for useful tips and facts not the most meme of 2018
NA ME yes in know that and most likely have known that longer than u I'm just making a joke
The mask is out of guarantee and decides to blow itself up
Thankfully no kill switches in a mask.
Dont give the gas mask manufacturers any ideas!
Psycho realm
Duh duh duh! Duh duh DUH! DUH DA DUUUR! Du da dur dur durr... ba ba ba baaar baaaaar baaar ba ba... ba ba ba... bum bum bum....
Hey... wake up... you were dreaming.