Dan, I really appreciate your videos. I am reworking my shop and will probably now go with the Bosch compound miter and dust collection and considering building the over table extractor for my original (1982) Delta Unisaw which is still in good condition. I like the fact that your system seems to allow for more narrow cuts on the table saw which I often make. Thanks for such good communication and expert advice. Bob
Appreciate the review. Your fund of knowledge and your generosity impresses me. Can you comment on something I've seen somewhere on TH-cam wherein I heard a bubbling sound with the dust collection system? I'd ask if that person was filtering through water, but cannot recall which clip I saw.
+Jeffrey Wong thanks. I'm not sure about the bubbling sound. I've seen drywall sanding systems that use water but I've never come across a woodworking dust collection system that does.
Great Video! I make plaster backed mother molds for my bronze sculptures. So I need something like this when I have to grind back the plaster pieces, in my Art studio. I have been waiting to 'pull the trigger' on one of these, you just helped my decision! Thanks!
Hi! Thanks for the video. I just bought the machine. It says it comes with a "remote filter clean nozzle" but I cannot figure out what it is. Could you help? Thanks!
That's the part that goes on the end of the hose that has a button on it. When you press it the suction gets cut which activates the filter clean function.
If you compare the layout and internal plastic mouldings this is the same unit as the Dewalt D27901. They've just tweaked the ergonomics of it externally to give it a different brand identity.
@@DPShopTalk Yeah that makes sense. It's at least a 10 yr old design now. Dewalt are now pursuing what is probably a cheaper to make design. (which according to tests I've seen is apalling performance wise).
Very nice review. For the moment I have a Dust Deputy and a shop vac. I contemplate the Bosch VAC090S, and own various eletroportative tools, mostly Bosch plus a Dewalt router. I used to work outside, so the dust was not a real problem, but then I want to set up a workshop in my basement. And I do not find any adaptor for my électroportative tools to connect them properly to the Deputy. Would you say that electroportative tools absolutely need a dust collector such as the Bosch, or, for a hobbyist, it is still possible to manage with a Deputy plus shopvac? (Providing adequate connectors, if possible to find them…) Thanks!
Sir, what is électroportative. English google told me this is not a word it recognizes. To answer your question a dust extractor offers more options like less noise, better filtration, better hoses, and higher suction. If you desire any of those things I recommend the dust extractor over a shop vac. Your shop vac would become a table saw only connection if you decide to get this vacuum. Although pricey I believe they are an investment in your health
Will this fit Festool tools? Indeed a vac with auto clean but unfortunately I do t have the money to buy a Festool unit right now. Maybe in the future.
Yes I still use it almost daily and it continues to work very well for me. It has seen a lot of hours of use on many different jobsites over the years and has never let me down.
@@DPShopTalk Thanks. One last question, I’ve been reading reviews about their unit making beeping noises or the auto clean knocking sound going off a lot. Does that happen with your unit?
Mine isn't the auto clean unit so I've never had that problem. I always use a fleece bag in mine so the filter never gets dirty and the suction stays high. I've never found the need for the auto clean.
I don't have any Festool products so I'm not sure if the Bosch hose end will fit them but I'm sure you could make it work with an adapter if necessary.
Great review was curious if you use this on your table top router next to you, I have the same router table and I have the bosch 4100-09 table saw but I know they have bigger vaccum ports was wondering how you would connect this vaccum to them?
+Chris Lange I do use the Bosch dust extractor on both my router table and my portable DeWalt table saw. I just use a 2 1/2" hose plugged into the extractor and then into the tool. The 2 1/2" hose doesn't have the same locking feature as the stock Bosch hose that I showed but it fits no problem. Sometimes with the router table I will use both the Bosch extractor and my shop vac at the same time. The shop vac gets hooked to the back of the fence and the Bosch extractor gets hooked to the fixed base router dust collection attachment under the table. That gives me above and under table collection which works really well.
You can use it without a bag but the filter will load up faster and it's more of a mess to empty the vac. I usually use a fleece bag in mine and hook it up to a Dust Deputy cyclone which prevents most of the dust from even reaching the vac.
Be kind and whare from your experience between a Shop Vac with Deputy Cyclone, compared to the Bosch portable vac. I am in the dilema to buy one or the other. Portability is not a must as I will use it only in my shop. What is the most powerfool/effective tool between the two ? And is there a big difference? By the way, I really like your videos - a lot, they are extremely helpful and I hope you won't stop making them :)
Thanks for the feedback on the videos, it's always very much appreciated! The Bosch vac is more powerful and quieter than my shop vac. It is overall a much more refined machine but is also quite a bit more expensive. I use the dust deputy with the Bosch vac on site sometimes when I'm working in one spot for awhile doing trim work. If you're looking for the most economical option that will get the job done I would go with a shop vac and dust deputy. If you have a bit more money to spend and the noise level and power are important to you then the Bosch vac is a solid choice. Hope that helps.
+TheRangeControl I can try and show that in a video at some point. I can tell you from experience that it handles it very well. I got more effective collection using the Bosch vac hooked up to the Dewalt table saw than my shop vac and Dust Deputy which is what I've always used. The Bosch has enough CFM to capture all but what spits off the back of the blade which you would need an overarm collector to get, like what I made for my stationary saw. I used a 2 1/2" hose from the vac to the saw for max air flow.
+DP Shop Talk That would be awesome! I have a Festooned CT48 and my buddy is selling me a Dewalt Portable Table Saw... But, being in an apartment I can only get so industrious with my dust management expansion plan. :-)
Not all of the fleece bags are reusable. I don't think they offer the reusable bag anymore actually. The reusable one has a plastic clamp that closes the end of the bag.
+Jeff Hanko I use an L-BOXX 3 with my ROS65. My ROS65 actually came in the L3 which I don't think Bosch offers that setup anymore. I have plenty of space for the sander and all of the accessories. amzn.to/2BuGKVG
Thanks for the great review. I have been trying to use your Amazon affiliate link to make purchases through Amazon as a small way to say thank you for your efforts. Rich
The one issue that prevents me from thinking a Bosch vac would be perfect for me is the hose storage. I can just see those protruding hooks and bungee cords as the cause of some great nerd mess. Making the hooks removable and adding a L box for hose storage would be a great improvement.
Personally I've never found the hooks to be an issue and I've found the hose storage works well. I do keep an l-boxx on top with all my vac accessories.
Thanks for the quick reply. I have two questions, are the hooks removable (they appear to be held on by a single phillips screw), and would the hose fit in the l-boxx?
Yes the hooks are removable from what I can tell. They slide into slots and the screw holds them in place. I would say that the hose would fit in an L-Boxx 2 but not the L-Boxx 1 that I keep on top of my vac.
where else would the hose go? it’s pretty natural to wrap it around the machine when finished anyway..but I know what you mean, I think the first thing I noticed when I saw it was the way the hose sat around it..but it’s grown on my a lot and I really want this thing.
@@martinluthierking I've had this for several years now and with light use it still performs like new. The 22mm hose is a great addition. Rockler has an interesting universal hose adaptor system to work with almost any tool. Something that recently caught my attention is a Bosch 12 volt drill I used a couple of weeks ago. Amazing tool....powerful and had atachments to do just about anything you would want a drill to do.
+Cesar G great question and I actually cover that in the upcoming dust collection episode. Short answer is I like the more compact form of the vac without a cyclone attached plus there can be issues with static damaging these higher end dust extractors since there are electronics inside. The reusable bag is easy to empty and keeps the dust from reaching the filter so I keep my dust deputy hooked up to my old shop vac.
Great review! I have a Festool vac and it looks like the Bosch would be a good contender to consider next time I'm in the market for another vac. Thank you for the review.
How does this compare to Festool equivalent ? i bought Bosch gas 35 m AFC for site work witch Bosch plunge, mitre saw but having a bit of a second thought since Festool is more popular...
+UlTrApLeX the Bosch has more power than the Festool. One of the things that sold me on the Bosch is the L-Boxx integration. I've only used the Festool vac briefly but personally I prefer the Bosch.
Dan Pattison Festool also has box integration but i have seen many of the festool extractors plastic body broken in variouse places expecial where you plug in but thAT WAS ON 110V version.
+UlTrApLeX Yeah since I have all my gear set up in L-boxxes it was a no brainer for me. If I used systainers then I probably would have gone Festool just for the integration
Have you guys used the Bosch dust extractor? Which dust extractor do you use and why do you like it. Let's get some discussion going on dust extraction.
Just got this vac. Should have got the auto one. The primary use of this tool is for hand sanding with a porter cable sander. Had to buy an adapter, Found with the adaptor and the manual cleaning switch the hose was heavy , cumbersome ,not really any good for use at all. Had to buy second hose. Got a great price on the vac though. Lol
+Glen D welder I've found that when you use a bag in the vac you don't need to use the filter cleaning function anyway. I've never used the manual cleaning switch on my vac and took it off after I bought it.
+58Chev Thanks! The wheels on the extractor work really well. They roll very smooth and make moving the vac around easy. One of the front casters has a locking lever too so you can keep the vac from moving around if you need to.
I’m sold. Buying one this week. Thanks for the detailed review!
Great video. Thanks for the review. The Bosch is now a front runner for my shop vac purchase.
My fears have been realized; gonna have to go and buy this now. Great review.
My thoughts exactly!!!!
Thank you for the review! You've made this buy so much easier to decide on.
I decided on the Bosch for a couple of reasons, one being Bosch has a 22mm hose, a small hose makes using dust extraction easier on some tools.
Dan, I really appreciate your videos. I am reworking my shop and will probably now go with the Bosch compound miter and dust collection and considering building the over table extractor for my original (1982) Delta Unisaw which is still in good condition. I like the fact that your system seems to allow for more narrow cuts on the table saw which I often make. Thanks for such good communication and expert advice.
Bob
Just purchased can’t wait thx for the help understanding it 😀
Appreciate the review. Your fund of knowledge and your generosity impresses me.
Can you comment on something I've seen somewhere on TH-cam wherein I heard a bubbling sound with the dust collection system? I'd ask if that person was filtering through water, but cannot recall which clip I saw.
+Jeffrey Wong thanks. I'm not sure about the bubbling sound. I've seen drywall sanding systems that use water but I've never come across a woodworking dust collection system that does.
Well done video Dan. I really enjoy your thoroughness in covering the tool.
Great Video! I make plaster backed mother molds for my bronze sculptures. So I need something like this when I have to grind back the plaster pieces, in my Art studio. I have been waiting to 'pull the trigger' on one of these, you just helped my decision! Thanks!
Hi! Thanks for the video. I just bought the machine. It says it comes with a "remote filter clean nozzle" but I cannot figure out what it is. Could you help? Thanks!
That's the part that goes on the end of the hose that has a button on it. When you press it the suction gets cut which activates the filter clean function.
A very thorough review! Thanks for putting the video together.
If you compare the layout and internal plastic mouldings this is the same unit as the Dewalt D27901. They've just tweaked the ergonomics of it externally to give it a different brand identity.
That's interesting. I think the internals of the vac are made by Karcher.
@@DPShopTalk Yeah that makes sense. It's at least a 10 yr old design now. Dewalt are now pursuing what is probably a cheaper to make design. (which according to tests I've seen is apalling performance wise).
Very nice review. For the moment I have a Dust Deputy and a shop vac. I contemplate the Bosch VAC090S, and own various eletroportative tools, mostly Bosch plus a Dewalt router. I used to work outside, so the dust was not a real problem, but then I want to set up a workshop in my basement. And I do not find any adaptor for my électroportative tools to connect them properly to the Deputy. Would you say that electroportative tools absolutely need a dust collector such as the Bosch, or, for a hobbyist, it is still possible to manage with a Deputy plus shopvac? (Providing adequate connectors, if possible to find them…) Thanks!
Sir, what is électroportative. English google told me this is not a word it recognizes. To answer your question a dust extractor offers more options like less noise, better filtration, better hoses, and higher suction. If you desire any of those things I recommend the dust extractor over a shop vac. Your shop vac would become a table saw only connection if you decide to get this vacuum. Although pricey I believe they are an investment in your health
@@CraigularjJoeWoodworks sorry: electric portable tools.
@@CraigularjJoeWoodworks thx for your reply.
Will this fit Festool tools? Indeed a vac with auto clean but unfortunately I do t have the money to buy a Festool unit right now. Maybe in the future.
I love Bosch tools!
Are you still using this? I’m trying to decide between this and a Festool. For the price of this, you get a decent gallon size vs the Festool.
Yes I still use it almost daily and it continues to work very well for me. It has seen a lot of hours of use on many different jobsites over the years and has never let me down.
@@DPShopTalk Thanks. One last question, I’ve been reading reviews about their unit making beeping noises or the auto clean knocking sound going off a lot. Does that happen with your unit?
Mine isn't the auto clean unit so I've never had that problem. I always use a fleece bag in mine so the filter never gets dirty and the suction stays high. I've never found the need for the auto clean.
Is it compatible with festool products?
I don't have any Festool products so I'm not sure if the Bosch hose end will fit them but I'm sure you could make it work with an adapter if necessary.
Here in Europe this is called the BOSCH GAS 35 L SFC+
Has better on-board storage than the Festool vacs - is the hose size the same?
Great review was curious if you use this on your table top router next to you, I have the same router table and I have the bosch 4100-09 table saw but I know they have bigger vaccum ports was wondering how you would connect this vaccum to them?
+Chris Lange I do use the Bosch dust extractor on both my router table and my portable DeWalt table saw. I just use a 2 1/2" hose plugged into the extractor and then into the tool. The 2 1/2" hose doesn't have the same locking feature as the stock Bosch hose that I showed but it fits no problem. Sometimes with the router table I will use both the Bosch extractor and my shop vac at the same time. The shop vac gets hooked to the back of the fence and the Bosch extractor gets hooked to the fixed base router dust collection attachment under the table. That gives me above and under table collection which works really well.
Can you use this without a bag?
The bags are hideously expensive here in Australia, and I'm only cutting wood and sanding latex paint.
You can use it without a bag but the filter will load up faster and it's more of a mess to empty the vac. I usually use a fleece bag in mine and hook it up to a Dust Deputy cyclone which prevents most of the dust from even reaching the vac.
Be kind and whare from your experience between a Shop Vac with Deputy Cyclone, compared to the Bosch portable vac. I am in the dilema to buy one or the other. Portability is not a must as I will use it only in my shop. What is the most powerfool/effective tool between the two ? And is there a big difference?
By the way, I really like your videos - a lot, they are extremely helpful and I hope you won't stop making them :)
Thanks for the feedback on the videos, it's always very much appreciated!
The Bosch vac is more powerful and quieter than my shop vac. It is overall a much more refined machine but is also quite a bit more expensive. I use the dust deputy with the Bosch vac on site sometimes when I'm working in one spot for awhile doing trim work. If you're looking for the most economical option that will get the job done I would go with a shop vac and dust deputy. If you have a bit more money to spend and the noise level and power are important to you then the Bosch vac is a solid choice. Hope that helps.
Dan, Great job on the review. Nice to see that you have given it a good rating. How does it roll around the shop? Are the front wheels adequate?
Great review!! The most in depth I have seen. That work table look very nice, where did you get that??
I'm sure he knows a guys who can build a table. :)
Could you please do a video to show how it handles the Dewalt TableSaw?
+TheRangeControl I can try and show that in a video at some point. I can tell you from experience that it handles it very well. I got more effective collection using the Bosch vac hooked up to the Dewalt table saw than my shop vac and Dust Deputy which is what I've always used. The Bosch has enough CFM to capture all but what spits off the back of the blade which you would need an overarm collector to get, like what I made for my stationary saw. I used a 2 1/2" hose from the vac to the saw for max air flow.
+DP Shop Talk That would be awesome!
I have a Festooned CT48 and my buddy is selling me a Dewalt Portable Table Saw...
But, being in an apartment I can only get so industrious with my dust management expansion plan. :-)
VERY good review👍
can you connect multiple bosch hoses together for a much longer hose?
No unfortunately there's no easy way to join them.
@@DPShopTalk thanks for the quick reply.
Da, Good video! How does this work with the battery powered Bosch tools? Does it automatically activate?
There's no automatic activation for cordless tools but I use an iVac switch and remote to turn the vac on and off.
I didnt realize those fleece bags were reusable. I havent tried my new VAC090AH yet, how do you empty the bag?
Not all of the fleece bags are reusable. I don't think they offer the reusable bag anymore actually. The reusable one has a plastic clamp that closes the end of the bag.
Really helpful and interesting. Much appreciated.
Thanks for the review. What L-BOXX would you recommend for the ROS65, discs and accessories?
+Jeff Hanko I use an L-BOXX 3 with my ROS65. My ROS65 actually came in the L3 which I don't think Bosch offers that setup anymore. I have plenty of space for the sander and all of the accessories.
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very good explanation , Thank you
Do you need to use the bags ?
You don't have to but it keeps the filter clean and the suction power at its maximum.
I like that you belted it in the car.
+Daniel Flather lol yeah have to keep the dust extractor safe :)
Very good review.
Thanks for the great review. I have been trying to use your Amazon affiliate link to make purchases through Amazon as a small way to say thank you for your efforts. Rich
+samlol23 thanks very much, I really appreciate that!
What is the volume like on the lowest setting?
There's only one setting but it's quieter than a typical shop vac
The one issue that prevents me from thinking a Bosch vac would be perfect for me is the hose storage. I can just see those protruding hooks and bungee cords as the cause of some great nerd mess. Making the hooks removable and adding a L box for hose storage would be a great improvement.
Personally I've never found the hooks to be an issue and I've found the hose storage works well. I do keep an l-boxx on top with all my vac accessories.
Thanks for the quick reply. I have two questions, are the hooks removable (they appear to be held on by a single phillips screw), and would the hose fit in the l-boxx?
Yes the hooks are removable from what I can tell. They slide into slots and the screw holds them in place. I would say that the hose would fit in an L-Boxx 2 but not the L-Boxx 1 that I keep on top of my vac.
where else would the hose go? it’s pretty natural to wrap it around the machine when finished anyway..but I know what you mean, I think the first thing I noticed when I saw it was the way the hose sat around it..but it’s grown on my a lot and I really want this thing.
@@martinluthierking I've had this for several years now and with light use it still performs like new. The 22mm hose is a great addition. Rockler has an interesting universal hose adaptor system to work with almost any tool. Something that recently caught my attention is a Bosch 12 volt drill I used a couple of weeks ago. Amazing tool....powerful and had atachments to do just about anything you would want a drill to do.
Why not attach a dust deputy to not put up with bags?
+Cesar G great question and I actually cover that in the upcoming dust collection episode. Short answer is I like the more compact form of the vac without a cyclone attached plus there can be issues with static damaging these higher end dust extractors since there are electronics inside. The reusable bag is easy to empty and keeps the dust from reaching the filter so I keep my dust deputy hooked up to my old shop vac.
I would like to hook it up to my old chopsaw or tablesaw but it doesn’t fit the port. All are Bosh
Sounds like you'll need an adapter.
Nice review...subscribed!
Great review! I have a Festool vac and it looks like the Bosch would be a good contender to consider next time I'm in the market for another vac. Thank you for the review.
How does this compare to Festool equivalent ? i bought Bosch gas 35 m AFC for site work witch Bosch plunge, mitre saw but having a bit of a second thought since Festool is more popular...
+UlTrApLeX the Bosch has more power than the Festool. One of the things that sold me on the Bosch is the L-Boxx integration. I've only used the Festool vac briefly but personally I prefer the Bosch.
Dan Pattison Festool also has box integration but i have seen many of the festool extractors plastic body broken in variouse places expecial where you plug in but thAT WAS ON 110V version.
+UlTrApLeX Yeah since I have all my gear set up in L-boxxes it was a no brainer for me. If I used systainers then I probably would have gone Festool just for the integration
can you plug your tools in to it so it starts up with your tool.
+Lance Gordon yes it has the power tool activation feature so you can just plug the tool in the front.
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Have you guys used the Bosch dust extractor? Which dust extractor do you use and why do you like it. Let's get some discussion going on dust extraction.
Dan Pattison I have the 14 gal with auto clean and the HEPA filter.
Just got this vac. Should have got the auto one. The primary use of this tool is for hand sanding with a porter cable sander. Had to buy an adapter, Found with the adaptor and the manual cleaning switch the hose was heavy , cumbersome ,not really any good for use at all. Had to buy second hose. Got a great price on the vac though. Lol
+Glen D welder I've found that when you use a bag in the vac you don't need to use the filter cleaning function anyway. I've never used the manual cleaning switch on my vac and took it off after I bought it.
+58Chev Thanks! The wheels on the extractor work really well. They roll very smooth and make moving the vac around easy. One of the front casters has a locking lever too so you can keep the vac from moving around if you need to.
It's no Festool is it.
$770 for a shop vac????
They aren't cheap but they are worth it if you're using it day in and day out to make a living.
+Randy Dandy Thanks! The work table is my MPT which I designed and built. Check out
the video for that here: th-cam.com/video/dwVV9bosx0M/w-d-xo.html
Sold but broke.