2022 Yamaha MT-09 Fuel Economy
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- When I purchased my new 2022 Yamaha MT-09 SP in March of this year, I was so excited to finally be riding it that I overlooked that my MT-09 Fuel Economy was going to be a problem.
The first few fill-ups were netting me roughly 80 Miles per Tank (32 Miles per Gallon). Fortunately, as I moved through the Break-In Period and had the Yamaha Recall ECU Refresh, Fuel Economy improved considerably.
🟡 UPDATE:
I've been riding my MT-09 SP for more than a year and recently crossed the 8,000-mile mark. If you'd like to see my long-term review of this bike, check out the link below!
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🟡 UPDATE:
I've been riding my MT-09 SP for more than a year and recently crossed the 8,000-mile mark. If you'd like to see my long-term review of this bike, check out the link below!
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Hey, I'd just advise you to keep the bike fully upright while fueling because you'll add more gas to the tank.
Did the same thing after someone advised it for the MT10 and it really gives more kms. 👍
Think you will find that's not true with how the tank is done
So here's my take on break-in: engine internals wear in, reducing friction, which then causes more power and better fuel economy. Also, at your 600-mile service, they replaced the factory oil with something else - and it used to be that the factory oil was a bit thicker, to help with break-in and to keep little bits of metal that wear off from flowing freely. More friction = less power and less fuel economy, at least from what I've seen.
Also, if you went from regular dino juice to synthetic at the 600-mile service, the [usually] thinner synthetic oil has - you guessed it - less friction, so again, more power/MPGs.
I've seen it in plenty of cars - switch early to synthetic and the full break-in can take 20k miles before power/MPG level off.
My Harley 114, FWIW, gets 38-45 mpgs, depending on how I ride - and with a 6-gallon tank, it's 180-230 miles depending on my bladder and how low I let it get.
Before I took delivery of the MT-09, the service tech said that the factory oil looked a little darker than usual. Just to be safe, they did an oil change right away. As far as I know, they used standard drum oil for that oil change as well as my first service.
@@WaltInPA Then when you hit 5k or your next service, switch to synthetic, I bet you get a 10% bump in fuel economy and a bit more power. I'll have to look [or you can :D ] and figure out if Yamaha is using break-in oil - it might be a bit darker due to viscosity or additives for engine break-in.
Finally a video that makes sense. Thank you so much. I have a 2021 MT09 SP and I have been averaging 115 miles since I got the bike. I had a Honda cb500F before and I could go 250+ miles on that bike. I thought my mileage was terrible but I guess it kinda makes sense.
I seem to be averaging about 120 miles before the fuel light comes on. My range isn't as good as my previous bike (Honda CB650) but I'm just glad to be getting triple digits now. It was a little concerning early on when I was only getting 80 miles between fillups.
Thanks for watching and commenting 👍
Wow yea that is bad I take that's down to fuel as I get 80 to 100 miles on half a tank even when I am messing with friends and keeping up with liter supersport bikes
I'm still on the fence about buying a 3rd gen mt09. I have a 650f and the gas mileage and range are very acceptable for the level of performance. After hearing a horror story about a 1st or 2nd gen fz/mt09 getting 21mpg, I was forced to step back and reconsider buying. If the 3rd gen mt09 had the same size fuel tank as mine, I would definitely consider buying it. Like you, I don't want to constantly keep my eyes peeled for a fuel station. That takes the fun out of riding.
My only gripe with the MT-09 is I wish the fuel tank had a little more capacity. After 1,000 miles I'm getting roughly 125 miles between fillups (going from full to the fuel light coming on).
I completely agree - I think the CB650F had a good balance between performance and range.
Thanks for watching and commenting 👍
Brand new, bikes always have a lower mpg, it will increase after the break in period, don't worry.
Even on my 125cc supermoto, break in I got 80mpg, after break in (600/700 miles) l get ~120mpg.
Same riding style, same roads, same fuel only thing changed was the bike loosened up and got into it's "natural stride"
I just picked up 2022 SP model. The mpg on my first tank was in the low 40s. But the others have ranged between 48 and 54 mpg. Taking it in for the first service today.
Good luck with the first service.
I'd be curious what it winds up costing you - I've been seeing a wide range of prices for the first service.
Thanks for watching and commenting 👍
@@WaltInPA I think it was listed around $300 but the dealership I got the bike from had a very well priced service plan that I opted for when I picked the bike up. So I didn’t actually look at the dotted line when I dropped it off today.
Lol. You realize you’re paying the dealer $300 to simply change your oil, right? Do it yourself. Learn how to work on your bike yourself. Dealers do nothing you can’t do yourself if you have basic tools and minimum poor mechanical skills and can read. If it’s a software update, they’re required by law to do that as warranty work.
Doing 183 - 190 miles on my 2020 MT09 SP even when ridden hard over a mountain pass - with Shell V-Power 100 and nothing less it performs superbly with a new wet weight (full tank) of 413 pound after a few mods 😎🏁🏁✌️
Sorry, but octan rate doesn’t have any relation to mpg )))
I did 110km riding hard 😅
@@hordi1ful
I always get the highest mileage with 100 octane fuel (Shell V-Power). With the also available 95 Octane E10 the mileage range drops noticeably…
Thought I was going to save money by getting a Tracer 9 GT over my old FZ6. Then I learned the bike takes premium gas and there goes my budget, haha. I spent the first 1000 miles with a pretty hard break in and being a bit foolish off with my throttle control off of nearly every traffic light or stop sign I encountered... now looking at my average mpg more regularly and trying to be more tame/reserved with the ham fisting. Actually seeing some decent improvement minus the ridiculous gas gauge preemptively worrying me. Hope you're enjoying the weather today!
Greetings from an old SR member/forum admin, would love to catch up some time. -Bern
I'd imagine you have the same display that I do with the fuel gauge that doesn't change until you get under a half-tank. That is a bit odd and took some getting used to.
Prices seem to be coming down a bit but Premium Gas is is shockingly expensive. Fortunately I'm only filling a couple gallons at a time.
It's good to hear from you again. Are you still in the Philly area? We should definitely catch up at some point this riding season 👍
@Walt In PA Yep, spot on with the first half the tank disappearing on my gauge. Just still feels strange coming from a 2006 FZ6 which had a superb gas gauge compared to my 2021 T9GT.
Definitely agree on gas prices coming down a tad, part of getting older I suppose, I get to complain about gas prices back in my day now, lol.
And it's while how times have changed-- has it seriously been ~15 years? Still around the Philly area but far more open to heading up North. I'm going to send you some more of my contact info as it would be a blast to catch up soon. I think you'll be amused at how much overlap there is in our hobbies now-a-days and I'll need to pick your brain on a few subjects for sure. :-) Be Safe and be well brother!
looking forward to more of your vids. My 2022 MT09SP won't get to my dealership until June or July but thats mostly an estimate
Hopefully your estimate is accurate and you're riding your new MT-09 SP in June 👍
Thanks for watching and commenting.
I got on the list for a 21' in October 2021. Come February 2022 I got my 22' MT09SP. Absolutely love it. They are definitely hard to come by.
Great info thanks, at least I can prepare myself for this now. Think I would have been worried too getting just 80miles per tank, couple of weeks til I get my non sp Mt09.
Thats the one thing I wish the older spyders had was better gas mileage. I get about the same miles as you do. 120-130 miles before the light comes on. The newer spyders are almost double that.
Are the new Spyders that much more fuel efficient or do they have larger capacity tanks?
2023 Mt-09SP 1000km (brand new) 230 km or around 130 miles per tank before hitting reserve ,slow to moderate pace. Hooligan style cut that by half 😈😈😈
The reserve comes on way before you're actually out. My ninja 400 light comes on and I still have 40 miles left before it'll actually run out... just a safety feature so u don't run out
We share the same language but when it comes to units of measurements thing get confusing between the UK and US. Your gallons are a different size to ours, we buy our petrol (not gas!) in litres but measure our consumption in mpg!
My XSR 900 (same engine as the MT09) hits reserve at about 125 miles but I find this bike quite economical compared to my MT10. It's currently doing 34 UK mpg or 28 US mpg! It's got a 17L tank (4.5 US gallons) reserve is on at 100 miles or less. Its completely empty at 125 miles. With fuel prices here it's an expensive game at the moment.
Very informative video man, what do you mean an ECU refresh? Like a flash or tune? And what did you do it for?
Yamaha issued a Recall due to "improperly programmed ECU's" which could cause stalling and power loss.
I had the service done through my dealer which updated the fuel mapping to correct this issue.
I did a separate video on that - link below
th-cam.com/video/JtUT0FBnyYw/w-d-xo.html
I have noticed that its Altitude is big factor on performance and MPG, I get 100 miles before i got half tank in the UK but normal only use primiem fuels E5 mostly and that riding with a few friends on some nice roads so not taking it easy at all.. this all around 500ft-2000ft Alt....
but why consume so much? Do injectors inject more fuel into the engine?
I'm not sure - I know fuel mapping was an issue with the ECU (there was a recall)) but I don't know if it was causing the bike to run rich and consume more fuel.
I got over 220 miles from my MT09sp 2021
My Z is averaging for 38mpg when advertised at 45. My last couple tanks have been a little better as more miles come on. Also what is that on the X2? Is it just a protector or does it do some sort of cool video voodoo?
It is the Insta branded "Premium Lens Guard"
It seems to pick up a little more glare than without it and you have to change camera settings to accept it but its worth the peace of mind.
Off topic question. How much did it cause on your 1st service aside from oil change for the motorcycle? I’m near at my 600miles break In period and I’m hearing crazy $$$ on 1st service on mt09. Thanks
Hi Dan,
I just posted a video about that last week - it was billed as 2.50 Hours in Labor ($110 per hour) plus Materials. It came out to be about $325
Here is the URL for the video if you'd like to check it out
th-cam.com/video/LaIsa-SdhC8/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for watching and commenting 👍
lets go brandon
Thanks for watching
Turn that gas nozel upside down..no more tapping.
Such a simple piece of advice and ensure no gas drips on the paint.
Thanks for the tip 👍
way better fuel economy than both of my bikes they are both only 30+ MPG
Your bikes have larger capacity tanks, right? What kind of range do you normally get from a full tank of fuel?
@@WaltInPA out of the ZX14r I get just on 200 km or 124 miles on a tank and around the same or just a bit less on the M109-R
Hopefully the fuel economy goes up and the price of petrol goes down. :D
Me too - I have to fill it with 91 (and usually just use 93) and it is getting very expensive. Fortunately I'm only pumping 2.5 gallons at a. time.
Thanks for watching and commenting 👍
All these guys expecting exciting performance AND mpg. I just bought a brand new MT10 and couldn't care less about the mileage I get from fuel...
Oh god I hear nothing but complaints from MPG of that bike 😅I love the excitement but hunting for a station all the time gets old.
Wouldn’t it be 42.6 miles a gal? At 2.7 gallons being added?
After you were getting the 115 miles?
Mine gets 5.5 lt/100km which is 43usmpg or 51ukmpg
Mine seems to have settled at around 45mpg (US) on average.
I wish the fuel capacity was a little larger but I usually go about 125 miles between fillups (I usually fill up when the light comes on) and that hasn't been terrible for the type of riding I do.
Thanks for watching and commenting 👍
@@WaltInPA Strange, my 2022 MT-09 SP currently sits at 4.2 lt/100km, which is 56 MPG (US) or 67 MPG (UK). I'm at 2100km (1300 miles) and I finished the first service at my local Yamaha dealership at 1000km (600 miles). I've only filled 98 octane Shell V-Power fuel on it which has no ethanol (98 in Norway is the same as 93 in the US), and I've done a large mix of driving - city, fast and longer trips. I have to refill around every 260km (160 miles), that's when I'm at 1 bar left. When I refill then, I usually fill about 9.5-10 liters, which means I still have over 4 liters left in the tank. I could probably go 300km no problem on longer trips if I allow the tank to drain a bit more. But at 260km/160 miles, I'm long overdue to stop and have a snack and some water anyway, so. The fuel usage might be speed related as well, we have fairly lower speed limits here than in the US. So on longer trips I never hit the same speeds or revs as you do on US highways.
Idk can’t justify 20k aud for a 14 litre tank
Damn sounds like that’s the mileage of a Sportster. Glad it’s getting better for you though.
That was my first thought "Wow, I've got the range of a Sportster 😲😂
I have a 2021, it has just over 3,000 miles on it now. From the beginning I have gotten 50-51 MPG. The big bar goes away between 95-100 miles after a fill up and the fuel light comes on at about 150 miles. I think the entire tank is 3.7 gallons including the reserve. I agree the small tank is one of the very few things I would change on this bike. The Tracer 9 gets another gallon.
I was keeping an eye on mine yesterday and the big bar disappeared when I hit 87 miles. I was into reserve at 127 miles and stopped to fill up.
I ride a lot of back country roads so my speed isn't consistent like it would be on highways or long stretches of road. I'm sure it doesn't help my fuel economy but it is definitely getting better as I put more miles on the bike.
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@@WaltInPA Did you try to measure how many miles you get on the reserve?
I have not - I know I have several miles to comfortably get to a fuel station but as soon as that light comes on I feel an incredible urge to fill up as soon as possible. I haven’t ridden for more than a handful of miles with the fuel light on.
It’s 659 a gallon here buddy. Love the sound of the bike. That’s interesting my ninja gets great mileage. I ride with people that have that same bike and it seems to get decent gas mileage. Yeah that’s strange. Hmm 🤔. Sounds like a happy ending
Cheers Walt
$6.59 per gallon is crazy 😳
I think the most I paid for premium in the last couple of months has been $5.40 per gallon.
Thanks for watching
46mpg is right about average i think for this bike.
I find I get the best mileage when I can buy pure gas no ethanol. Don't know why they want to make it. If you burn more gas to go the same distance how is that making less pollution? I also would expect mileage to improve as an engine gets "broke in". New engines are tight and parts have lots of resistance to overcome when moving. then they loosen up a bit with use so the parts will move easier.
I have a hard time finding ethanol free gas. I wanted to fill my tank with it at the end of the riding season last year but couldn't find it. I'd rather pay a little more for ethanol free instead of dumping fuel stabilizer in the tank.
Prices are crazy….my big ole truck or the bike….
This time last year I'd go riding with a friend and we'd both fill up at the same time (taking turns and "buying the round"). We were filling both bikes from almost empty for like $12. Now its closer to $20. Its crazy
That's about 46mpg about what I can get but I also got 6 gallon
My range isn't terrible now that my MPG has improved but I feel like I may have been spoiled by the Honda and its 4.6 gallon tank 🤣
80 miles would’ve driven me nuts too. Sick bike though walt. I see a yt channel name change coming “wheelie n walt”
I can do 300km on my gen2. That is shortshifting and maximum relaxmode. Otherwise, it's 200km on a 14L tank. ((300km = 186mi) 14L = 3.7gal)
When you say that you had the ECU redone, was that the recall fix on the ECU or did you have it remapped yourself? I've been getting 80 miles to the tank and putting in 2.7 gallons at refill. I just had the recall done so I'm hoping it improves to your mileage🤞
I only had the ECU Recall done. I just crossed 1,000 miles and I seem to be getting roughly 120 miles per tank on average.
How many miles do you have on yours?
@@WaltInPA I have just over 300 miles on mine. It would be a dream to get 120 miles to a tank.
Yeah 80 mpg is not good!! Glad it got a lot better. Would be interesting to find out what actual factor was!
Good video Walt!!
I'm curious what the root cause was because it seems like the fuel economy that I was getting is very unusual - even for brand new MT-09's
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he said 80m from full to reserve not 80mpg. probably around 40+mpg ....
The obvious question...Is this mileage just putting around and commuting ..or is this riding as advertised to be ridden? Just regular commuting, with some backroad sprints, i get 50-53mpg on an old school carb'd 650. Something's off. I could tune the carb for even better mpgs..but i like the power where it's at.
Just did my first fill on my mt-09 and got 100 miles from 2.1 gallons, the light comes on pretty early all assuming the tank was actually "full" from the dealer
Is that was 95 octane ⛽ ?
I think it only requires 91 based on the owners manual but I use 93 whenever it is available.
Good info. Thanks!
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Looks like we’re all going to be converting our motorcycles to electric power.
I think an electric motorcycle would be awesome as a second bike (their range is my only real concern) but wow are they expensive.
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