I know the 12 year olds here have no idea who Frank is but for us that do, this is the guy that laughed in Bas Ruttens face while Bas was palm striking him repeatedly in Pancrase so that's enough reason to believe this story. Guy's a madman.
He was no joke. He ended Igor’s career (unfortunately) with a slam. Finished Kevin Jackson and Dan Henderson in less than 20 seconds, both olympic wrestlers. Retired undefeated in the UFC… Guy is a beast
man, this dude was one of my earliest MMA inspirations. The first legit MMA fighter. He had it all. The skills, the look, the physique, the mind, the spirit. Doesn't really matter if he ever gets into the UFC hall of fame as long as Dana is alive, because real fans know he belongs there and thats all that matters. He should have been apart of the very first members inducted into the UFC hall of fame. But hey, that's typical politics for ya.
For post UFC 1 MMA, Marco Ruas gets that title. Frank was great, but Marco had GOOD boxing, Muay Thai, jiu-jitsu/luta livre, and FOOT STOMPS. He also won UFC 7 tournament without throwing a single right hand because he came in with it broken, if I recall.
I disagree, as a brazilian btw. The only big names Ruas fought are Taktarov and Maurice Smith… and he got beaten by both. He beat Patrick Smith and Gary Goodridge though, but were kind of mediocre. On the other hand we have Frank Shamrock, who trained martial arts for only 6 months and beat Bas Rutten in his MMA debut, in 1994 (Bas only lost 4 times in his entire career btw). He has beaten Jeremy Horn, Kevin Jackson (olympic wrestler), Minoru Suzuki (one of the best MMA fighters of Japan in that era), Enson Inoue (outsized), and an ascending and scary Tito Ortiz (outsized and by TKO). Frank retired undefeated in the UFC and vacated his undisputed Middleweight belt (Light Heavyweight by modern standards).
@@indianna.777 Disagree with what? In 1984, Ruas fought Carlson Gracies toughest student at the time, Pinduka, to a draw, but Ruas beat the hell out of him. Oleg vs Ruas 1 basically 1984 predates UFC 1 by 9 years. That was an embarrassment of a fight, neither fighter did much, Ruas especially Oleg was only given the win because Ruas didnt fight. You must've forgotten about the rematch, Ruas beat Oleg quite badly though the fight was ruled a draw. Frank Shamrock was 12 at the time. Ruas was 210 lbs and very likely would have beaten Royce at UFC 1 had he been invited. Ruas was a complete MMA fighter far before UFC 1. Frank Shamrock isnt even close to the first "complete" MMA fighter.
@@greasebob I meant that I disagree with your assumption that Ruas gets the title for first legit M.M.Artist... I don't understand how you even think there's an equilibrium between Frank and Ruas. Their levels are much different, in my view. Ruas' first UFC bout was in 1995 and he was 1-0-1 at that time, with one win over "Francisco Borges" who retired 0-2, and one draw against "Pinduka" who retired 0-0-1. On the other hand, Frank was, at that same time, 5-3-1, with two fights against Bas Rutten (one win, one loss), one win over Minoru Suzuki and one draw against Allan Goes. If you know these names, then you surely know they are no joke. Regarding skills, both Ruas and Frank were well rounded. Ruas probably being better at striking and Frank at the ground. But comparing skills gets too much subjective and I prefer to look just at the stats. In my view Frank gets the title for "first" because of him being a pioneer at 1994/95 Japan scene, and also the title for "better fighter", because of his better resume and his undefeated retirement in the UFC.
I remember when the mma community back then were saying, Frank Shamrock was a trouble maker. But me being new to mma never understood it, because he looked like a guy that goes to Cornell University. I thought Ken was the trouble maker. But hearing this story now, I now understood it. lol
Such a nice guy with such a vicious streak (if provoked) I was a big fan of Ken for years. Then I saw Frank & realised he was the better fighter. Still got love for Ken though
Ol simple-ass bear. Frank: “I looked at fighting like life or death.” Bear: “that’s a crazy way to look at fighting!” lol no it’s not. It’s actually kind of the whole point in most situations
I remember watching ufc 1 in 1993 and seeing Ken shamrock Frank brother fight his physic was another level and u could see the strength in the man on top of that I then seen Frank fight and was totally amazed by how he had the same look style but actually looked better all round he could do everything the man's a legend a I couldn't belive it when I found out they weren't blood brothers they looked so alike haha. Also alot of people say dan Hendo is the strongest of all time.
Tell that to Jake Shields who took him down and held him there for 5 Straight Rounds,or to Daniel Cormier who rag dolled him..But in all Seriousness Henderson was super impressive
@Mike-xh9kn Dan Henderson vs Cormier is until this day one of the biggest MMA anomalies. A prime 35 y/o DC against a 43 y/o Hendo, who had just been banned from taking TRT. He fought a prime DC (arguably top 10 MMA fighters ever) with the same testosterone levels as my daughter. That fight is NOT a good paradigm to conclude anything, at all.
@@indianna.777 I agree mate dc was younger had for less miles on the clock and alot bigger I would of liked to of seen him fight Hendo in his prime I feel most fighters in there late 30s early 40s have issues with there legs and I think Hendo at this point was relying on his upper body to do all the work
Great stories; better than the movies. Now you see why a suburban country-club fighter doing it all for sport might be at a disadvantage against Frank in the cage.
Sry i dont believe him. Hes a badass but i mean your not going to prison and not joining a gang. Youll have 10 ppl in your cell stabbing you but it aounds badass that he was "the line wolf" where not even 20 guys can take you.
@@romanraskin7381 you're the type of person that hasn't done anything memorable in their lives so you go on TH-cam and find every story you hear unbelievable. Yes, things happen in the real world kid.
@eliseoretro4407 lol you know this cuz of my comment 🤣 you like to assume things that's a problem that will Bite you on your ass old man lol 😆 hahahaha I'm sure it already did but you haven't learned I take it based upon your responses lol and now I'm bored so I will stop replying to you lol 🤣🤣🤣
I know the 12 year olds here have no idea who Frank is but for us that do, this is the guy that laughed in Bas Ruttens face while Bas was palm striking him repeatedly in Pancrase so that's enough reason to believe this story. Guy's a madman.
fact! how about when he gave Igor Zenoviev a pile driver K.O.?
He was no joke. He ended Igor’s career (unfortunately) with a slam. Finished Kevin Jackson and Dan Henderson in less than 20 seconds, both olympic wrestlers.
Retired undefeated in the UFC…
Guy is a beast
man, this dude was one of my earliest MMA inspirations. The first legit MMA fighter. He had it all. The skills, the look, the physique, the mind, the spirit. Doesn't really matter if he ever gets into the UFC hall of fame as long as Dana is alive, because real fans know he belongs there and thats all that matters. He should have been apart of the very first members inducted into the UFC hall of fame. But hey, that's typical politics for ya.
For post UFC 1 MMA, Marco Ruas gets that title. Frank was great, but Marco had GOOD boxing, Muay Thai, jiu-jitsu/luta livre, and FOOT STOMPS. He also won UFC 7 tournament without throwing a single right hand because he came in with it broken, if I recall.
I disagree, as a brazilian btw. The only big names Ruas fought are Taktarov and Maurice Smith… and he got beaten by both. He beat Patrick Smith and Gary Goodridge though, but were kind of mediocre.
On the other hand we have Frank Shamrock, who trained martial arts for only 6 months and beat Bas Rutten in his MMA debut, in 1994 (Bas only lost 4 times in his entire career btw). He has beaten Jeremy Horn, Kevin Jackson (olympic wrestler), Minoru Suzuki (one of the best MMA fighters of Japan in that era), Enson Inoue (outsized), and an ascending and scary Tito Ortiz (outsized and by TKO).
Frank retired undefeated in the UFC and vacated his undisputed Middleweight belt (Light Heavyweight by modern standards).
@@indianna.777 Disagree with what? In 1984, Ruas fought Carlson Gracies toughest student at the time, Pinduka, to a draw, but Ruas beat the hell out of him. Oleg vs Ruas 1 basically 1984 predates UFC 1 by 9 years. That was an embarrassment of a fight, neither fighter did much, Ruas especially Oleg was only given the win because Ruas didnt fight. You must've forgotten about the rematch, Ruas beat Oleg quite badly though the fight was ruled a draw. Frank Shamrock was 12 at the time. Ruas was 210 lbs and very likely would have beaten Royce at UFC 1 had he been invited. Ruas was a complete MMA fighter far before UFC 1. Frank Shamrock isnt even close to the first "complete" MMA fighter.
@@greasebob I meant that I disagree with your assumption that Ruas gets the title for first legit M.M.Artist...
I don't understand how you even think there's an equilibrium between Frank and Ruas. Their levels are much different, in my view.
Ruas' first UFC bout was in 1995 and he was 1-0-1 at that time, with one win over "Francisco Borges" who retired 0-2, and one draw against "Pinduka" who retired 0-0-1.
On the other hand, Frank was, at that same time, 5-3-1, with two fights against Bas Rutten (one win, one loss), one win over Minoru Suzuki and one draw against Allan Goes. If you know these names, then you surely know they are no joke.
Regarding skills, both Ruas and Frank were well rounded. Ruas probably being better at striking and Frank at the ground. But comparing skills gets too much subjective and I prefer to look just at the stats.
In my view Frank gets the title for "first" because of him being a pioneer at 1994/95 Japan scene, and also the title for "better fighter", because of his better resume and his undefeated retirement in the UFC.
Vitor belfort came earlier than frank
"I been in that jail 🤣" Frank is a real one lmao
Lmao straight up 😂
Great seeing Frank Shamrock on here. I absolutely love this podcast. Bear and Rampage keep doing your thing guys. Outstanding podcast!
Frank would be a top guy today
Frank seems so mellow here.. for those who don't know much about him, watch some of his earlier fights, the guy was a monster
He was not lol his record is average
Vs. Kevin Jackson and Igor Z.
Frank was always funny and a smartass though!
He said he poked somebody. He went completely somewhere else.
That's real every day prison sh*t right there.. shout out Frank on many levels
I remember when the mma community back then were saying, Frank Shamrock was a trouble maker. But me being new to mma never understood it, because he looked like a guy that goes to Cornell University. I thought Ken was the trouble maker. But hearing this story now, I now understood it. lol
I see Frank got his nose fixed it used to be completely sideways
Such a nice guy with such a vicious streak (if provoked) I was a big fan of Ken for years. Then I saw Frank & realised he was the better fighter. Still got love for Ken though
I walked alone
I love Frank. a true beast and a great guy.
need to make a shamrock movie about ken and frank and their father
Who would’ve know frank shamrock on a level 4 yard busting burpees 😂😂 crazy
5:52 blacked out story
wow this dude is something special
i wonder what happened with luke
Think Luke has fights coming up in the Middle East.
@@EpicLabs24 yea but why did they allude to the fact that he almost went to jail this past weekend
Tito, is that you?
Ol simple-ass bear.
Frank: “I looked at fighting like life or death.”
Bear: “that’s a crazy way to look at fighting!”
lol no it’s not. It’s actually kind of the whole point in most situations
bears so annoying
Frank Shamrock is the real deal
I remember watching ufc 1 in 1993 and seeing Ken shamrock Frank brother fight his physic was another level and u could see the strength in the man on top of that I then seen Frank fight and was totally amazed by how he had the same look style but actually looked better all round he could do everything the man's a legend a I couldn't belive it when I found out they weren't blood brothers they looked so alike haha. Also alot of people say dan Hendo is the strongest of all time.
Tell that to Jake Shields who took him down and held him there for 5 Straight Rounds,or to Daniel Cormier who rag dolled him..But in all Seriousness Henderson was super impressive
@Mike-xh9kn Dan Henderson vs Cormier is until this day one of the biggest MMA anomalies. A prime 35 y/o DC against a 43 y/o Hendo, who had just been banned from taking TRT. He fought a prime DC (arguably top 10 MMA fighters ever) with the same testosterone levels as my daughter.
That fight is NOT a good paradigm to conclude anything, at all.
@@indianna.777 I agree mate dc was younger had for less miles on the clock and alot bigger I would of liked to of seen him fight Hendo in his prime I feel most fighters in there late 30s early 40s have issues with there legs and I think Hendo at this point was relying on his upper body to do all the work
Frank seems like a great dude , but some of these stories have def been embellished just a bit.
Frank is just an entire salt shaker at this point. 🧂
life moments 🤣
Why was he in jail / prison ?
Robbery
overexpansion of the anal cavity , it was a law back then .
Coz he's Mexican
Great stories; better than the movies. Now you see why a suburban country-club fighter doing it all for sport might be at a disadvantage against Frank in the cage.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was terrifying
Btw that TV shit is real. California's prison system was incredibly racially divided back then
Sry i dont believe him. Hes a badass but i mean your not going to prison and not joining a gang. Youll have 10 ppl in your cell stabbing you but it aounds badass that he was "the line wolf" where not even 20 guys can take you.
Hmmm I like Frank but story sounds like a made up movie tbh
He went from a level 4 yard directly to level 1 haha
He didn’t say he went directly from level 4 to level 1
He literally said he worked himself down the levels. Lol. Learn how to listen.
That’s what you got out of the clip..
👍
Amazing fighter but not at all big or scary by California prison standards
Fake story
I got suspicious when he said one guys "whole head exploded" 😂
@@mattlandryif you stab 8 dudes surely you get some extra time on your sentence
@@ajr.7557 might be hard to prove in court you initiated. who's gonna believe a single guy jumps 8 guys?
sorry was this level 4 or 2 ?? cause he says both . is Frank lying again ??
What a bs story. Egomaniac.
Why are you gay?
Ok rainbow warrior. It must be bs because you can't comprehend what it's like in prison. You would pee yourself and that's ok, most people would.
You don't know shit about this guy lol. You must be like 14.
Frank Shamrock is one of the least egomaniacal fighters around wtf are you on about
Sounds like bullshit
And you know this how
Frank Shamrock is a very nice guy,i like him.
Lol this guy is bs
Typical keyboard warrior.
@eliseoretro4407 lol 😆 hahahaha why did I say I would beat him up ? I just he was bs cuz he is
@@romanraskin7381 you're the type of person that hasn't done anything memorable in their lives so you go on TH-cam and find every story you hear unbelievable. Yes, things happen in the real world kid.
@eliseoretro4407 lol you know this cuz of my comment 🤣 you like to assume things that's a problem that will Bite you on your ass old man lol 😆 hahahaha I'm sure it already did but you haven't learned I take it based upon your responses lol and now I'm bored so I will stop replying to you lol 🤣🤣🤣
he was in jail in the 1990s & things were different back then
Frank Shamrock was great.