Watching old NASCAR videos is like watching a part of my life over again. Indianapolis 500 hundred races also. It brings it all back together like it was yesterday. What was I talking about o yeah it was great when were young. Me and NASCAR have spent a lot off time together. Thanks to all the racers that gave there life's for the safety of others.
I just love seeing Pearson and Petty behind the wheel of The Torino Taledega racing for Holman Moody 2 power houses on the same team. That's a dream team. Cale & Leroy Yarborough is very good.
Probably not the SCJ, because you need to run high speed, (about 120) for a good period of time before bringing it in. 351 Cleveland with 3.3 or 3.73 : 1 rear is all you need. Sadly once the malaise era got going the pace cars were so slow it became a safety hazard for all but the professionals, and amateur celebrity drivers couldn't hack it anymore.
I bought a car in DAWSONVILLE, built by Bill's dad GEORGE. It was a Mercury Cyclone, he'd built for someone else, then got back, and had Danny drive to Dawsonville high school. A small team (lots of independents) wouldn't be able to buy or get a Talladega or Mercury Spoiler II from FORD direct so GEORGE built to LOOK like the aero version for them. It had a mix of big block parts, and was a bear to drive from D'ville to Gainesville in fall 1991. Brakes were HD from trucks built at Atlanta plant.
Point was, HE built nose to FORD specs, vs. Mercury. It got stolen with fresh yellow letter tires on ULTRALITES, in deep South Carolina. LOOKED Pearson livery, Wimbelton White with Gold roof, lid.
I enjoyed these races much more when the cars were actually based on factory vehicles...not the dumb as hell car of tomorrow B.S. that nascar is putting out these days...I hate where nascar has gone.
Then tell us what NASCAR was supposed to do instead. When people complain about "NASCAR has lost its way" I NEVER see them offer a credible alternative.
Somehow, the money became the major factor. There is very little to no racing back and forth. They lost what made the sport popular in the 70s to the early 2000s. Too technica,l too expensive , gone are the series that developed drivers crew cheifs , Eventually, be racing electric cars or form .
How about that last overhead shot Clockwise from driver's glass LeeRoy Yarborough, Donnie Allison, David Pearson, Cale Yarborough and Richard Petty around Pearson's #17 Holman& Moody prepared 1969 Ford Torino w/ 429 cu. in. Shotgun
There were three more races left, but this race put Petty far enough behind that he could not recover. They never actually mentioned how much the points lead was, or how much of a lead Pearson had leaving the event, so I tried to calculate these. In 1969, races were either 50, 100, or 150 points. Based on my back of the envelope calculations, I think Pearson was 259 points ahead going into Rockingham with 450 points left to go. After this race, there are 300 points left and Pearson leads by 349.
Cool part about these tapes are they had SOUND of real cars hitting wall, and kept on going. We used tapes as these for duplicating "AS RACED" bodywork per then NASCAR rules.
These cars, along with their chryco rivals were actually quite good Ground Effects cars....they were running very fast speeds and you never saw any of them getting airborne.
The Spoilers were faster than the Taledagas by 3-7mph bc they were a few inches longer on the nose than the Ford car. Even the W nose Spoilers were competitive in 1969. The W nose version was winning races in 71 bc technically it wasnt affected by NASCARs rule change requiring the Birds Degas, Spoiler IIs. And Daytonas had to follow. The W nose car was allowed to run the 427sohc or Boss429 engines which gave the car a huge advantage as evidenced by AJ Foyts run in 71 Daytona for the Wood Bros.
Agree stock cars looked like resemmbled cars on the show room floor. Downsizing to erodynamics too Carbone fiber . Little to no passing racing back and forth , Roadoval or what they are called just in a term stink! Dirt on Bristol, but won't race on a real dirt track. NG Car, not as safe as they thought, and the drivers have told them that. 5 race teams, the others are associated with them. All that had hurt grass roots racing because they are making thar more expensive, which depletes the fields and prices out spectators . Look at the grandstands lots of empty seats at major races. And get rid of the race at Coloseim, wanna race at bull race designed for that .
Probably communists infiltrated ford motor company I think communism showed itself with the fuel crisis that killed American muscle cars and opened market for crappy rice burners muscle cars were The Symble of American freedom and power if we'd only knew then
Carbon monoxide poisoning gave him brain damage & he was never right again, but he was one of the GOAT's no doubt. Junior said Lee Roy was the bravest Racecar driver he ever knew, very high praise considering the source 😉
where are the GM guys, I'll answer that no where that where. GM could never compete with Ford or Chrysler back in the sixties and early seventies. in the mid seventies GM started getting in bed with NASCAR and NHRA. that's how they became the overrated icon they are today.
Mike Burks GM was threatened by the government to breakup its divsions around 1965 and pulled out of racing and even tamed down there performance car ads. There were no factory backed cars during these years and its all about money. Overall GM has the most wins in racing .Whenever gm was in the game they were competitive.
@@goodnightcharly5135 Do you have any o Idea how many times chrysler was told they were to fast or got kicked out? 64/65. The superbird/Daytonas were told to their speeds were to fast and that shut them down. 2 more years after that as well. What a joke " yea your fine to go racing" cool lets go. Won the first race and the next 7 out of 10.
@@goodnightcharly5135 ok then.... There are two reasons. 1) Chrysler had spent a fortune on 4 different research and development projects. All 4 were ok'ed and then after they won alot and broke speed barriers they did not want and worried they were to fast for the times or dominant like 8 of 11 races with 123 finishes 6 times they made them lower the cubic inches. Bye, bye, bye, bye 4 times. 2) fiat , Chrysler decided they would talk to NASCAR the past few years and France wanted so much for a " startup" And not having the time or $$ to as they put it..... Blow that kind of money it does not make business sense. They are out of debt, MAKING money, the Chrysler part of fiat Chrysler is selling good they decided to not only stay with nhra but to be the head cars/manufacture of it. GOOD CALL. MOPAR HAS ALWAYS DONE DRAG RACING VERY WELL AND FOR DECADES BEEN DARN NEAR DOMINANT.
I respect these guys, balls of stone, however turning left ain’t racing, any formula 1 driver from the 70s would piss on these guys, sorry, I said it….
so many myths about 1969 and1970 here are the actual facts and they look terrible for the winged cars. They did NOT dominate anything #1 Talledega torino with 29 wins #2 tie between mercury cyclone and the superbird with 8 wins each and the last the the daytona with only 6 wins
No they dont. The Charger Daytona won the first race it entered plus 7 of the last 10!!!! It was also the fastest. It was the first car to hit 200 and went 204. Nascar said no to that Hemi and made them drop the cubic inches of it and got rid of it
@@soxfunny98 the Daytona only one 6 total, and yes congrats, it did win the first race it entered because it was the ONLY factory car at Talladega after all of the major drivers boycotted the first race...….the field was made up of mustangs, camaros, etc that were all 20 mph slower than the #99 Daytona, would have been pretty had to lose that...…..btw the nascar records are all out there......there were 6 wins for the Daytona and 8 for the superbird…...sorry to burst the bubble but those are the facts,
@@davidthayer6969 Dude about 30 of us proved your stats with the time the daytonaventered, the amount of cars and races and we all destroyed your argument. Hell even NASCAR and 30 -1 in publications and experts, 30 to ONE have the bird and Daytona as the better , faster car.s. I am not going to play that 3 day to prove you ridiculous thing again. You come after 3 months and start again???? Dude move on Or continue to think they were not the fastest and would have dominated for years if allowed just like mopars did then When you add supersprrdways and small and dirt tracks. They destroyed your oval boys either way. They were so fast thru were not first to 200 but at Chelsea proving grounds for of the racers hit 230 and 2 hit 246 at the grounds. They had to back those engines Down so much and when that came out about the mag guys thatsnuck in and got the story on the speeds and the amazing amount of polls Dodge and Plymouth won with the winged cars even though the Daytona did not start until September. It's an ASS kicking. Amount of cars , races , poll for fastest laps which the drivers admit are cars almost totally , no draft and blocking just guy and CAR
Always thought David Pearson should have been one of the early NASA astronauts. He was a man's man
The Torino's were definitely the coolest cars out on the tracks, imo.
I also loved many of the Plymouths Petty drove. His colors really make any car look good
And that Boss 9 is a bad ass motor also
Not more than the winged cars of the Dodges and Plymouths, no way...
Watching old NASCAR videos is like watching a part of my life over again. Indianapolis 500 hundred races also. It brings it all back together like it was yesterday. What was I talking about o yeah it was great when were young. Me and NASCAR have spent a lot off time together. Thanks to all the racers that gave there life's for the safety of others.
I just love seeing Pearson and Petty behind the wheel of The Torino Taledega racing for Holman Moody 2 power houses on the same team. That's a dream team. Cale & Leroy Yarborough is very good.
They ALL were my heros growing up! God bless them all!
I loved this show, this is when cars were cool.
Never been a big NASCAR fan, seeing these old races tells me, I WOULD have been a NASCAR fan.. the world is too sanitized.
Gotta dig the 1970 Torino vert pace car with the shaker scoop, most likely a 429CJ/SCJ under the hood!!!
Probably not the SCJ, because you need to run high speed, (about 120) for a good period of time before bringing it in.
351 Cleveland with 3.3 or 3.73 : 1 rear is all you need.
Sadly once the malaise era got going the pace cars were so slow it became a safety hazard for all but the professionals, and amateur celebrity drivers couldn't hack it anymore.
I bought a car in DAWSONVILLE, built by Bill's dad GEORGE.
It was a Mercury Cyclone, he'd built for someone else, then got back, and had Danny drive to Dawsonville high school.
A small team (lots of independents) wouldn't be able to buy or get a Talladega or Mercury Spoiler II from FORD direct
so GEORGE built to LOOK like the aero version for them. It had a mix of big block parts, and was a bear to drive from D'ville to Gainesville in fall 1991. Brakes were HD from trucks built at Atlanta plant.
Point was, HE built nose to FORD specs, vs. Mercury. It got stolen with fresh yellow letter tires on ULTRALITES,
in deep South Carolina. LOOKED Pearson livery, Wimbelton White with Gold roof, lid.
I enjoyed these races much more when the cars were actually based on factory vehicles...not the dumb as hell car of tomorrow B.S. that nascar is putting out these days...I hate where nascar has gone.
Then tell us what NASCAR was supposed to do instead. When people complain about "NASCAR has lost its way" I NEVER see them offer a credible alternative.
hell yeah and you had to drive these cars real racing
that hauler shows how far we come cool as hell
They really need to change the name it's not stock car racing hasn't been the 80s
Somehow, the money became the major factor.
There is very little to no racing back and forth.
They lost what made the sport popular in the 70s to the early 2000s.
Too technica,l too expensive , gone are the series that developed drivers crew cheifs ,
Eventually, be racing electric cars or form .
Ain't none of them boys driving today got the balls that those boys had
How about that last overhead shot Clockwise from driver's glass LeeRoy Yarborough, Donnie Allison, David Pearson, Cale Yarborough and Richard Petty around Pearson's #17 Holman& Moody prepared 1969 Ford Torino w/ 429 cu. in. Shotgun
Awesome love the Purple!
There were three more races left, but this race put Petty far enough behind that he could not recover. They never actually mentioned how much the points lead was, or how much of a lead Pearson had leaving the event, so I tried to calculate these. In 1969, races were either 50, 100, or 150 points. Based on my back of the envelope calculations, I think Pearson was 259 points ahead going into Rockingham with 450 points left to go. After this race, there are 300 points left and Pearson leads by 349.
The chargers was definitely the coolest cars on the tracks imo
Thanks for this UL, a better quality copy than the one I recorded.
Outstanding! Thank you!
Cool part about these tapes are they had SOUND of real cars hitting wall, and kept on going.
We used tapes as these for duplicating "AS RACED" bodywork per then NASCAR rules.
The great ole days.
Sure not so great now.
These cars, along with their chryco rivals were actually quite good Ground Effects cars....they were running very fast speeds and you never saw any of them getting airborne.
They weren't really stock underneath.
Would have loved to seen this race.
Thanks for posting E
The Spoilers were faster than the Taledagas by 3-7mph bc they were a few inches longer on the nose than the Ford car. Even the W nose Spoilers were competitive in 1969. The W nose version was winning races in 71 bc technically it wasnt affected by NASCARs rule change requiring the Birds Degas, Spoiler IIs. And Daytonas had to follow. The W nose car was allowed to run the 427sohc or Boss429 engines which gave the car a huge advantage as evidenced by AJ Foyts run in 71 Daytona for the Wood Bros.
You are full of crap. You need to learn the facts.
I thought the cammer had been banned before the aero warriors ever showed up on track. Did not know they were still being used.
Sock was banned.
Wow! They was really rolling the dice with those shitty tires😂😂😂
Leeroy was the man in 1969!
6:48 that guy beating on richard petty's talladega torino with a sledge hammer 😸 😸
Richard's brother Maurice Petty 👍
Not a Camry to be seen.
damn, those were the times...
Those 1969 chargers daytona look good af
Ah, those were the days...where did it all go wrong?
+justforever96 the fuel crisis
Brian France
+justforever96 Chevrolet
Money... orin this case, BIGGER money.
So what was NASCAR supposed to do?
look at those race cars.
1969 American 500 Rockingham
Olympia beer charger brought me here..
Agree stock cars looked like resemmbled cars on the show room floor.
Downsizing to erodynamics too Carbone fiber .
Little to no passing racing back and forth , Roadoval or what they are called just in a term stink!
Dirt on Bristol, but won't race on a real dirt track.
NG Car, not as safe as they thought, and the drivers have told them that.
5 race teams, the others are associated with them.
All that had hurt grass roots racing because they are making thar more expensive, which depletes the fields and prices out spectators .
Look at the grandstands lots of empty seats at major races.
And get rid of the race at Coloseim, wanna race at bull race designed for that .
real racing
Seems strange that Ford pulled out of all racing shortly after this
Probably communists infiltrated ford motor company I think communism showed itself with the fuel crisis that killed American muscle cars and opened market for crappy rice burners muscle cars were The Symble of American freedom and power if we'd only knew then
@@jessemeadows2993 and there was a second shooter on the grassy knoll
LEEROY YARBROUGH THE JACKSONVILLE OUTLAW
LIVED SO FAST HE CHOKED HIS MAMA
Carbon monoxide poisoning gave him brain damage & he was never right again, but he was one of the GOAT's no doubt. Junior said Lee Roy was the bravest Racecar driver he ever knew, very high praise considering the source 😉
Ah the good ol days of nascar
When stock cars were actually you know
STOCK
Golden Retriever there was nothing stock about those cars. Lol
Boss 429 was Boss.
That was racing people back then no body to say race card
Great video.
..i want the Talladega
Where is the rest? What about the beginning?
Pearson petty again.
lo mas q corro es a 120 mas recio meda miedo ora a 260
balls of steel soaked in saltwater.
Does anyone know why they went back to the 427 Tunnel port in 1971 in many of these type cars ? Very few 429's in the films I see .
money......
Did anyone catch the 1969 pontiac Grand prix driven by Roy Tyner #9?
NASCAR is Boring as hell to me…. But love the Old cars of the day
where are the GM guys, I'll answer that no where that where. GM could never compete with Ford or Chrysler back in the sixties and early seventies. in the mid seventies GM started getting in bed with NASCAR and NHRA. that's how they became the overrated icon they are today.
Mike Burks GM was threatened by the government to breakup its divsions around 1965 and pulled out of racing and even tamed down there performance car ads. There were no factory backed cars during these years and its all about money. Overall GM has the most wins in racing .Whenever gm was in the game they were competitive.
now the chevys team up against fird with toyota who replaced dodge
@@goodnightcharly5135
Do you have any o
Idea how many times chrysler was told they were to fast or got kicked out?
64/65. The superbird/Daytonas were told to their speeds were to fast and that shut them down.
2 more years after that as well.
What a joke
" yea your fine to go racing" cool lets go.
Won the first race and the next 7 out of 10.
@@soxfunny98 right i was talking about today, you dont see any dodge in the field
@@goodnightcharly5135 ok then....
There are two reasons.
1) Chrysler had spent a fortune on 4 different research and development projects. All 4 were ok'ed and then after they won alot and broke speed barriers they did not want and worried they were to fast for the times or dominant like 8 of 11 races with 123 finishes 6 times they made them lower the cubic inches. Bye, bye, bye, bye 4 times.
2) fiat , Chrysler decided they would talk to NASCAR the past few years and France wanted so much for a " startup"
And not having the time or $$ to as they put it..... Blow that kind of money it does not make business sense. They are out of debt, MAKING money, the Chrysler part of fiat Chrysler is selling good they decided to not only stay with nhra but to be the head cars/manufacture of it.
GOOD CALL.
MOPAR HAS ALWAYS DONE DRAG RACING VERY WELL AND FOR DECADES BEEN DARN NEAR DOMINANT.
I respect these guys, balls of stone, however turning left ain’t racing, any formula 1 driver from the 70s would piss on these guys, sorry, I said it….
so many myths about 1969 and1970 here are the actual facts and they look terrible for the winged cars. They did NOT dominate anything #1 Talledega torino with 29 wins #2 tie between mercury cyclone and the superbird with 8 wins each and the last the the daytona with only 6 wins
No they dont.
The Charger Daytona won the first race it entered plus 7 of the last 10!!!!
It was also the fastest. It was the first car to hit 200 and went 204.
Nascar said no to that Hemi and made them drop the cubic inches of it and got rid of it
@@soxfunny98 the Daytona only one 6 total, and yes congrats, it did win the first race it entered because it was the ONLY factory car at Talladega after all of the major drivers boycotted the first race...….the field was made up of mustangs, camaros, etc that were all 20 mph slower than the #99 Daytona, would have been pretty had to lose that...…..btw the nascar records are all out there......there were 6 wins for the Daytona and 8 for the superbird…...sorry to burst the bubble but those are the facts,
@@davidthayer6969
Dude about 30 of us proved your stats with the time the daytonaventered, the amount of cars and races and we all destroyed your argument. Hell even NASCAR and 30 -1 in publications and experts, 30 to ONE have the bird and Daytona as the better , faster car.s. I am not going to play that 3 day to prove you ridiculous thing again. You come after 3 months and start again???? Dude move on
Or continue to think they were not the fastest and would have dominated for years if allowed just like mopars did then
When you add supersprrdways and small and dirt tracks. They destroyed your oval boys either way.
They were so fast thru were not first to 200 but at Chelsea proving grounds for of the racers hit 230 and 2 hit 246 at the grounds. They had to back those engines Down so much and when that came out about the mag guys thatsnuck in and got the story on the speeds and the amazing amount of polls Dodge and Plymouth won with the winged cars even though the Daytona did not start until September. It's an ASS kicking.
Amount of cars , races , poll for fastest laps which the drivers admit are cars almost totally , no draft and blocking just guy and CAR
@@davidthayer6969
It's been months.
How are ya
@@soxfunny98 we moved to the country and believe it or not it took from april until now, mid august to get the internet and get it working