It is UNTHINKABLE, that those Fords, Plymouths, Mercurys, Dodges, even the Chevy, With the areodynamic drag coefficient similar to a BRICK, could go that fast. No spoilers, no wing, no flaps, just a stock car.
When the violin music started, I wasn't sure if I was going to be watching a race or June Cleaver driving the the grocery store. I loved the screeching tires on the infield grass. Turf technology must have come a long way since 1966, because grass much quieter today. Hilarious. Thanks for sharing.
I am a fairly new nascar fan, and that was incredible! Wish I lived in that era, that race was four years old when I was born. Too bad I missed so many good years after that. I now fully understand why people say nascar sucks now
Thanks, Gary, for this 14+ minute escape to what appears to be a simpler (better?) time. Of course, a fifty year old in 1966 probably said something similar about 1916.
I LOVED seeing all of that USAC talent at this race. Hurtibese, Don White, Johncock, Super Mario, Foyt, Hutchinson from ARCA, Rutherford, DAMN IT the competing sanctioned bodies of racers made this race SOOOO special
That is awesome! I'm a huge Bobby Isaac fan, but before him, your grandfather was Harry Hydes go to driver! Earl was AND IS a legend, thanks for sharing your story! :-)
I love this! Around 10:08 into it the announcer says that some are not as skillful (saving themselves from wrecking) and you see a car spinning and a tire and wheel passes by! Hard to be skillful when you lose a wheel, ha ha.
Please note that back in that era, there were no speed limits in pit lane; so a driver could enter pit lane as fast as he could manage, and exit at full-throttle.
This historic footage is literal GOLD! Love seeing Grannies "lil ol" Plymouth Belvedere tear up the track at 175+ mph! 10:29 one of Marvin Panchs final starts with the Wood brothers. Something kind of funny, he would win his final race this year, the World 600 at Charlotte... In a PETTY Enterprise prepared Plymouth #41, one of the Wood Brothers biggest rivals! Great race and great video!
Yes. No longer racing now. Just cookie cutter cars going around in a circle. I would watch every televised race there was back then. Now so boring and the number of ticket sales is down. Sad.
They didn’t change pit road speed until a crew man literally got crushed between two cars. Personally, I don’t watch to see people die, I watch to see them defy death.
Read a book when I was a kid called Winners Never Quit about athletes that overcame hardships . Hurtabise was involved in a fiery crash that left his hands horribly burned and was told his hands would never be able to move , so he told the doctors to position them so they could fit a steering wheel
In fact, the crash you refer to in which Jim Hurtubise was badly burned was at Milwaukee, just after the crash that took the lives of Dave MacDonald and Eddie Sachs at the end of the second lap of the 1964 Indianapolis 500, which in turn took place just six days after the fiery crash in the World 600 at Charlotte that would take the life of Fireball Roberts. Yet for a couple of years after that, Hurtubise was still capable of being as fast as ever, as exemplified by what he did in Norm Nelson's Plymouth in 1966, barely losing out in the second qualifying race for the 1966 Daytona 500 to Earl Balmer and then winning the Atlanta 500, which was easily the biggest win of his career.
That's when 'Stock Cars' were actually stock Cars. Just stripped down...beefed up a little, with some roll bars added. Check out the No draft wind vent!...imagine that sticking out of your face!! I think it was around the mid 70's when Stock cars turned into something just short of a 'Funny car' and Funny cars turned into something just short of Dragsters/Rails.
true , but i think there was a lot of back rooms re engineering of the whole car for sure, some probably very secret. that could be why nascar developed rules for every thing . just recently read about guys using rear axles that were running at different angles or something along those lines since it was a curved track, kind of miss that part of it.
There are several ways that you can help the car turn left. When they were still using bias-ply tires, you could adjust the air pressure in the left and right rear to change the circumference of the tires, with a larger circumference on the right. The bigger the difference (called "stagger"), the more the car wanted to turn left. That doesn't work with radial tires, so they tried adding "skew" to the rear end. If you can get the right rear to be ahead of the left rear, it helps the car turn left. You can either bend the axle housing slightly, or you can mount the whole thing at a slight angle.
Actually it was the Holman-Moody Ford s around this time that it started to happen. they were the ones that started to separate the outer body from the frame and and floor board. Chrysler hung on to their Uni-body for a while, but they couldn't get the stiffness, with the lighter weight as the "body hung on chassis" style. Everybody was using the '65 Ford floorboards because they were so flat. Some one bought the dies from Ford and kept making them until they were the only floorboards allowed. They may still use them today. J haven't been involved it building a car since the mid 90's. When '66 rolled around, they whacked the '65 Galaxie body off the Fords, and hung an outer shell of a '66 Fairlane (a Uni-body street car) on the existing chassis. NASCAR felt it was stronger and easier to tech, so the change was on.
Radial tires have stagger built into them, because of the style of construction, you can only change it by an 1/8 th of an inch or so, whereas the bias ply tires, you could change the size of the tire by about as mush as 1" or an 1½" bigger. Maybe more if you blew it up to 80 psi, and let it set in the sun. It's rarely seen on TV anymore, but the tire guy still usually measures the circumference of the tire after a couple laps were run on it to see how much, if any, centrifugal force changed it. It also lets you know if something may be wrong with the tire if it measures out weird. In Cup today, the only rear axle bending is for camber.
How fast are these cars going? I love historic Nascar by the way. From UK. My hero is Junior Johnson who came here fifteen years ago to demonstrate one of his old cars at a big event. I bought his book.
The last time a winner finished a lap ahead of second place in a Cup race was at North Wilkesboro in 1994, when Geoff Bodine lapped the field. Other than that, off the top of my head, Harry Gant lapped the field at Dover in '91, Kyle Petty in the World 600 in '87, Dale Earnhardt at Atlanta in '86, Bill Elliott in one or two races in '85 (one of them, I think, was at Dover), and Darrell Waltrip did more than once at Nashville and Bristol. It's rare that it happens, and pretty much impossible under the system they have now with the stages, free passes, wave-arounds, etc.
Im going to go on a limb here and declare that THIS race had the most competitive field of DRIVERS outside of Riverside races EVER. Too bad ONE CAR had such a HUGE advantage
Wow Petty was something. After 1984 he was never the same. I always wondered was it the car for Petty or did he lose just a little nerve as he approached 50?
I think it was just age. According to Jayski's website, there have only been 22 races in the "modern era" (since 1971) that have been won by a driver over 50-and eight of those 22 wins were by Harry Gant. As you get older, your reaction time slows down. I'm 52 and occasionally drive go-karts for fun. I know for a fact that if the back-end breaks loose, I can't catch it as quickly as I could ten years ago. I've also seen some studies that imply that being in bad accidents where your head gets shaken around, even if it doesn't cause a concussion, can result in small changes to your sense of balance. So if the car is loose or has a slight push, your "butt-o-meter" doesn't sense it the same way it used to. Combine that with a slower reaction time, and you're not able to make the small corrections that result in quick laps the way you could before
"butt-o-meter" has more to do with long summers in San Francisco as a young man than it does reaction time or racing a car. It's all good though , your stories of aging and racing I guess... ;-D Johnny Depp said NO MORE to Disney movies...He planes to do a dark comedy "Butt Pirates of the Caribbean", What do you think of his choice? I say go for it Mr. $500Million
Hey, it’s not only physical. You acquire some riches, live the good life, and, you know, seventh place seems like winning. It happens to jockeys and running the rail, too.
Plymouth uses the HEMI...Plymouth ,Dodge...all Chrysler vehicles use the same engines the HEMI !!! MOPAR rules the HEMI was outlawed because it was too powerful and had to run a disadvantage as GM and Ford were not as fast or reliable....
FYI,today in Top Fuel Alchohol Drag racing,Ford,GM,Toyota all use a Chrysler HEMI !!!! YES !!! Few years ago Ford and Toyota Cried to NHRA so they could say it was their own engines,lol..The block is the same as any MOPAR RB block and it is a HEMI,it is a Chrysler,MOPAR,Dodge,Plymouth HEMI !! Ford,GM,Toyota run them today !!! Funny,I went to a Drag Race they had 201 cars,198 were Ford/GM bodies and out of those not 1 Ford engine and only 3 GM engines the rest were Chrysler HEMI engines and only 3 Dodge body cars ,and they of coarse were running their engines,the HEMI ! We asked a few people why they had a GM/Ford body,they said Well,You don't want to see all Dodge's do you !!! We laughed and said,there are only 3 dodge's here vs 170 Chevy's,but those are not Chevy's as they have a Dodge HEMI,he just gave us a usual idiotic Chevy guy confused face,then he got mad and said well...well it is a Chevy because that's what the body is...Yeah, Yeah I said as he was getting pissed off and his buddies were forming around me,all I said was MOPAR Rules,Chevy sucks and you agree as you use a Dodge HEMI !! He could say anything...
The Plymouths and Dodges were a bit smaller and lighter, more like Ford's fairlane which Ford didn't run until next year. Chrysler corp. decided to build more than 1,000 street hemi cars for 1966 so they could meet NASCARs new rule and race the hemi. So smaller cars, more power and Richard Petty. Ford did not choose to try to make and sell over 1,000 street cars with their SOHC 427, so they couldn't use it in NASCAR.
In 1965 the rule change required production of one road legal car per dealership. It never mentioned the Hemi or the Cammer or any engine. If either Chrysler or Ford had produced that many Hemis or Cammers in 65 they would have been able to race under the rule. Chrysler did just that with the street Hemi in1966-71. Ford did that with the Boss 429 in 1970. Extra weight would not have allowed the Ford cammer to run under the production number rule, but NASCAR is definitely know for changing the rules. In 61 Pontiac brought out the Super Duty 421 as a crate motor only, sold to factory selected racers. In 63 Chevy built less than 25 Mark 2 mystery motors sold to factory selected racers. In 64 Chrysler did the same with the Hemi. Ford was planning on doing the same in 65 with the cammer when NASCAR changed the rules to require complete cars to be sold at a volume of one per dealership.
yeah it seemed like the gm motors couldnt take it as long, eventually the 427 ford was a great endurance motor. I think nascar let them run two 4 bbls to the hemis one 4 bbl , not sure
i was born and raised in Daytona beach. saw em all. hung out around smokey yunick's best damn garage in town as a little kid. the best most natural and most talented driver I ever saw was david pearson. petty always said the best driver he ever saw was pearson.
@@bogusbill488 no he was smarter than Petty in setting a car up. Had more wins than Petty in a shorter period. Had he kept racing, his number of wins would have been fantastic. Even Petty said Pearson was the greatest driver in racing.
+revolutionpm Doesn't even look like the same race, unless they were still racing 1960 Fords and other cars from the gull wing era. Looked again and spotted a 61 Chevy among the cars that were spinning out. 5 and 6 year old cars in a 1966 race? ...But then again, back in 60' or 61' during a pile up at Daytona 500, I saw modified cars from the 30's involved. That was definitely from that current year since Daytona Speedway was only a couple of years old and the 1930's cars were crashing into 1960's cars and a few 57 Chevys and Fords....Just thought by 1966 they might have refined the rules and most of the cars would be current models.....plus all of the cars in the pile up on this video are early 60's...and maybe a few 59's.
KKBundy12345 It's unfortunate--most film color processes weren't permanent back in the day, so depending on exactly how it was processed you'd get fading (you see the same sort of thing with a lot of color photos from back in the day). Technicolor usually didn't fade, but it was expensive and required specialized equipment.
No, it was done either for cost savings. Take the film, edit it, and do the voice over, and the other sounds in a studio. In this case, since it was used for Plymouth marketing, bought and paid for buy Chrysler Corp.
The commentary for these old videos is beyond corny: "Just to be on the safe side, with these fantastic speeds, Petty takes a quick, precautionary pitstop!" WTF? Hahahahaha!
A h when racing was racing. When all you did was paint a number on the side of the car and put on a helmet. They were actual stock cars. And real men unlike the crybabies we have today. No mention of f o y t or Ned Jarrett although they were on camera briefly. I believe 66 was Ned Jarrett last year as a driver. And I remember him mentioning that shoulder harnesses wer made mandatory that year.
They stopped being "real stock cars" about 1962 when the Wood Brothers cut the front of the car off and added a front clip. And going back to the 1950s, they started requiring roll cages in the car. And I'm pretty sure that by this time, every car in the field (regardless of make) used a Ford 9" rear end. So, a heck of a lot more that "paint a number on the side of the car"
Smokey would have smoked the Big Dodge Chrysler , Ford and Mercury Teams with a Car he built in his Garage.. but The Big money factories cried and gave Smokey a list of things to change that would have taken him two weeks ..
GM bought out Nascrap! have not watched for 15 years and never well again even if they even the field again! Love it when the idiots that run the other make of of cars waste there money on the nascar family. Nascar well always take GM money!
176 MPH laps back in 1966, in those primitive cars and tires? Whoa!
i know! thats literally faster than the indy 500 average speed of the same year...
They were maniacs! Real heros!
It is UNTHINKABLE, that those Fords, Plymouths, Mercurys, Dodges, even the Chevy, With the areodynamic drag coefficient similar to a BRICK, could go that fast. No spoilers, no wing, no flaps, just a stock car.
This was my first Daytona 500. Truly a memorable day.
I wish I was there, too!!
Man, those Belvederes were badass. Great recovery @ 9:50
Cars with real factory sheet metal. What a concept.
The Hemi was amazing....and grooved tires.Wild times.
When the violin music started, I wasn't sure if I was going to be watching a race or June Cleaver driving the the grocery store. I loved the screeching tires on the infield grass. Turf technology must have come a long way since 1966, because grass much quieter today. Hilarious. Thanks for sharing.
I was there and just managed to get into the infield. I saw most of the race. What a fabulous finish.
I am a fairly new nascar fan, and that was incredible! Wish I lived in that era, that race was four years old when I was born. Too bad I missed so many good years after that. I now fully understand why people say nascar sucks now
Great racing 175 miles that's fast thank you for bringing this video out 👍🇺🇸
No restrictor plates, no aerodynamics, glass windows, and treaded tires, how things have changed.
When NASCAR was fun to watch.
Thanks, Gary, for this 14+ minute escape to what appears to be a simpler (better?) time.
Of course, a fifty year old in 1966 probably said something similar about 1916.
Depression over + boys back from war + trained mechanics + cars = racing, on 3, one-two-
I LOVED seeing all of that USAC talent at this race. Hurtibese, Don White, Johncock, Super Mario, Foyt, Hutchinson from ARCA, Rutherford, DAMN IT the competing sanctioned bodies of racers made this race SOOOO special
Thank you for posting this my grandfather is Earl Balmer and I've been trying to find videos of him winning the qualifier, much appreciated thanks.
Congratulations on the win! Gotta love that list of names behind him including BOTH of the drivers of the century!
That is awesome! I'm a huge Bobby Isaac fan, but before him, your grandfather was Harry Hydes go to driver! Earl was AND IS a legend, thanks for sharing your story! :-)
Thank you for uploading this classic!!
I love this! Around 10:08 into it the announcer says that some are not as skillful (saving themselves from wrecking) and you see a car spinning and a tire and wheel passes by! Hard to be skillful when you lose a wheel, ha ha.
Wish Nascar was still stock car racing.
No Ground Effects And Splitter Problems Back Then ....Just Pure Horsepower & Helluva Driving Skills
That's a lot of speed out of a race car from that era.
Please note that back in that era, there were no speed limits in pit lane; so a driver could enter pit lane as fast as he could manage, and exit at full-throttle.
Yep. It took a crewman being crushed to death to put an end to that insane stupidity. :(
Back in the '50s and '60s is was "Win on Sunday, sell on Monday."
It's a shame those days are gone
Thanks for the Post.. love those tire sounds!! Even on the roof and grass. Just awesome..
cale was flying down that track
This historic footage is literal GOLD! Love seeing Grannies "lil ol" Plymouth Belvedere tear up the track at 175+ mph! 10:29 one of Marvin Panchs final starts with the Wood brothers. Something kind of funny, he would win his final race this year, the World 600 at Charlotte... In a PETTY Enterprise prepared Plymouth #41, one of the Wood Brothers biggest rivals!
Great race and great video!
The cars skid even when sliding on the roof. Real cars.
Sound effects are hilarious.
nice tire sounds while on roof. lol
:)
I would have loved to been there but that's the year I was born love looking at these old timers
Kevin House I was 1 month old when this race happened, been a fan every since! 😎
gorgeous engine sound!
Thanks for the short flick!
Back when it was real racing. Way too over regulated now
Yes. No longer racing now. Just cookie cutter cars going around in a circle. I would watch every televised race there was back then. Now so boring and the number of ticket sales is down. Sad.
@bisquitnspanky -someone who has clearly never been to a racetrack
The guys changing the leader board by hand. What a hoot.
No window nets...window glass still in the door....smoking in the pits....classic....fake skid noises added in
love stock car and indycar racing in the sixties.
Love the sound fx
Awesome Brother, Thanks for Sharing!!!
Richard Petty is the bomb ! Gotta love him.
Racings glory days.
And I was there!
Excellent!!. Thank You!!.
Nascar then was the marriage between daredevils and race cars we admired and looked like the ones we could buy. That formula is gone and so is Nascar.
Damn that Hemi sounds sexy! ;-)
thank-you. yes, we need to use discretion when posting on THE greatest SPECTACLE IN RACING. 🏎️🏁
Good ole days.
Those Drivers Uniforms Were Cool Looking Back Then
12:43 This was also the last year they were actually close to "stock" cars, from '67 on they were bodies on racing chassis'.
Wish Plymouth was still around
DeSoto too?
Pontiac? Oldsmobile?
Mercury?
When you are basically selling the same piece of junk with a different badge on it, it pays to contract.
Amazing..to know where the technology and the safety is today and seeing what it was then.You wonder how we ever survived.
They didn’t change pit road speed until a crew man literally got crushed between two cars.
Personally, I don’t watch to see people die, I watch to see them defy death.
Ah the good old days of NASCAR
Jim Hertabese was also the last driver to race a front-engine car at the Indianapolis "500", also in 1966.
Read a book when I was a kid called Winners Never Quit about athletes that overcame hardships . Hurtabise was involved in a fiery crash that left his hands horribly burned and was told his hands would never be able to move , so he told the doctors to position them so they could fit a steering wheel
In fact, the crash you refer to in which Jim Hurtubise was badly burned was at Milwaukee, just after the crash that took the lives of Dave MacDonald and Eddie Sachs at the end of the second lap of the 1964 Indianapolis 500, which in turn took place just six days after the fiery crash in the World 600 at Charlotte that would take the life of Fireball Roberts. Yet for a couple of years after that, Hurtubise was still capable of being as fast as ever, as exemplified by what he did in Norm Nelson's Plymouth in 1966, barely losing out in the second qualifying race for the 1966 Daytona 500 to Earl Balmer and then winning the Atlanta 500, which was easily the biggest win of his career.
1968 but he tried with a front engine until 1974
That's when 'Stock Cars' were actually stock Cars. Just stripped down...beefed up a little, with some roll bars added.
Check out the No draft wind vent!...imagine that sticking out of your face!!
I think it was around the mid 70's when Stock cars turned into something just short of a 'Funny car' and Funny cars turned into something just short of Dragsters/Rails.
true , but i think there was a lot of back rooms re engineering of the whole car for sure, some probably very secret. that could be why nascar developed rules for every thing . just recently read about guys using rear axles that were running at different angles or something along those lines since it was a curved track, kind of miss that part of it.
There are several ways that you can help the car turn left. When they were still using bias-ply tires, you could adjust the air pressure in the left and right rear to change the circumference of the tires, with a larger circumference on the right. The bigger the difference (called "stagger"), the more the car wanted to turn left.
That doesn't work with radial tires, so they tried adding "skew" to the rear end. If you can get the right rear to be ahead of the left rear, it helps the car turn left. You can either bend the axle housing slightly, or you can mount the whole thing at a slight angle.
Actually it was the Holman-Moody Ford s around this time that it started to happen. they were the ones that started to separate the outer body from the frame and and floor board. Chrysler hung on to their Uni-body for a while, but they couldn't get the stiffness, with the lighter weight as the "body hung on chassis" style. Everybody was using the '65 Ford floorboards because they were so flat. Some one bought the dies from Ford and kept making them until they were the only floorboards allowed. They may still use them today. J haven't been involved it building a car since the mid 90's.
When '66 rolled around, they whacked the '65 Galaxie body off the Fords, and hung an outer shell of a '66 Fairlane (a Uni-body street car) on the existing chassis. NASCAR felt it was stronger and easier to tech, so the change was on.
Radial tires have stagger built into them, because of the style of construction, you can only change it by an 1/8 th of an inch or so, whereas the bias ply tires, you could change the size of the tire by about as mush as 1" or an 1½" bigger. Maybe more if you blew it up to 80 psi, and let it set in the sun. It's rarely seen on TV anymore, but the tire guy still usually measures the circumference of the tire after a couple laps were run on it to see how much, if any, centrifugal force changed it. It also lets you know if something may be wrong with the tire if it measures out weird.
In Cup today, the only rear axle bending is for camber.
Sure, the car you could buy down the street could do 175. Sure it could.
How fast are these cars going? I love historic Nascar by the way. From UK. My hero is Junior Johnson who came here fifteen years ago to demonstrate one of his old cars at a big event. I bought his book.
These cars were going about 178 mph
wow
How many Modern era races(1980-2018) are won where the winner has lapped everyone 2nd-last ???? Serious question fellas...That seems rare.
The last time a winner finished a lap ahead of second place in a Cup race was at North Wilkesboro in 1994, when Geoff Bodine lapped the field. Other than that, off the top of my head, Harry Gant lapped the field at Dover in '91, Kyle Petty in the World 600 in '87, Dale Earnhardt at Atlanta in '86, Bill Elliott in one or two races in '85 (one of them, I think, was at Dover), and Darrell Waltrip did more than once at Nashville and Bristol. It's rare that it happens, and pretty much impossible under the system they have now with the stages, free passes, wave-arounds, etc.
Im going to go on a limb here and declare that THIS race had the most competitive field of DRIVERS outside of Riverside races EVER. Too bad ONE CAR had such a HUGE advantage
Wow Petty was something. After 1984 he was never the same. I always wondered was it the car for Petty or did he lose just a little nerve as he approached 50?
I think it was just age. According to Jayski's website, there have only been 22 races in the "modern era" (since 1971) that have been won by a driver over 50-and eight of those 22 wins were by Harry Gant.
As you get older, your reaction time slows down. I'm 52 and occasionally drive go-karts for fun. I know for a fact that if the back-end breaks loose, I can't catch it as quickly as I could ten years ago.
I've also seen some studies that imply that being in bad accidents where your head gets shaken around, even if it doesn't cause a concussion, can result in small changes to your sense of balance. So if the car is loose or has a slight push, your "butt-o-meter" doesn't sense it the same way it used to. Combine that with a slower reaction time, and you're not able to make the small corrections that result in quick laps the way you could before
"butt-o-meter" has more to do with long summers in San Francisco as a young man than it does reaction time or racing a car. It's all good though , your stories of aging and racing I guess... ;-D
Johnny Depp said NO MORE to Disney movies...He planes to do a dark comedy "Butt Pirates of the Caribbean", What do you think of his choice? I say go for it Mr. $500Million
Hey, it’s not only physical. You acquire some riches, live the good life, and, you know, seventh place seems like winning.
It happens to jockeys and running the rail, too.
Why pass Yarbrough with a couple laps to just risking him spinning you out
Christopher Menser Because If a caution had come out then Cale would have been right behind him and on the same lap. Better to lap him.
Back when the 3rd letter in NASCAR was true.
Before they began putting restrictor plates on the carburetors (remember those?) to limit top speeds
If they went 300mph around there, Paul Goldsmith would be runnin' up front. Paul was one of the best racers there ever was....2 wheels or 4.
Was it those Plymouth engines or what? The plymouths were eating everyone
Plymouth uses the HEMI...Plymouth ,Dodge...all Chrysler vehicles use the same engines the HEMI !!! MOPAR rules the HEMI was outlawed because it was too powerful and had to run a disadvantage as GM and Ford were not as fast or reliable....
FYI,today in Top Fuel Alchohol Drag racing,Ford,GM,Toyota all use a Chrysler HEMI !!!! YES !!! Few years ago Ford and Toyota Cried to NHRA so they could say it was their own engines,lol..The block is the same as any MOPAR RB block and it is a HEMI,it is a Chrysler,MOPAR,Dodge,Plymouth HEMI !! Ford,GM,Toyota run them today !!! Funny,I went to a Drag Race they had 201 cars,198 were Ford/GM bodies and out of those not 1 Ford engine and only 3 GM engines the rest were Chrysler HEMI engines and only 3 Dodge body cars ,and they of coarse were running their engines,the HEMI ! We asked a few people why they had a GM/Ford body,they said Well,You don't want to see all Dodge's do you !!! We laughed and said,there are only 3 dodge's here vs 170 Chevy's,but those are not Chevy's as they have a Dodge HEMI,he just gave us a usual idiotic Chevy guy confused face,then he got mad and said well...well it is a Chevy because that's what the body is...Yeah, Yeah I said as he was getting pissed off and his buddies were forming around me,all I said was MOPAR Rules,Chevy sucks and you agree as you use a Dodge HEMI !! He could say anything...
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The Plymouths and Dodges were a bit smaller and lighter, more like Ford's fairlane which Ford didn't run until next year. Chrysler corp. decided to build more than 1,000 street hemi cars for 1966 so they could meet NASCARs new rule and race the hemi. So smaller cars, more power and Richard Petty. Ford did not choose to try to make and sell over 1,000 street cars with their SOHC 427, so they couldn't use it in NASCAR.
In 1965 the rule change required production of one road legal car per dealership. It never mentioned the Hemi or the Cammer or any engine. If either Chrysler or Ford had produced that many Hemis or Cammers in 65 they would have been able to race under the rule. Chrysler did just that with the street Hemi in1966-71. Ford did that with the Boss 429 in 1970. Extra weight would not have allowed the Ford cammer to run under the production number rule, but NASCAR is definitely know for changing the rules. In 61 Pontiac brought out the Super Duty 421 as a crate motor only, sold to factory selected racers. In 63 Chevy built less than 25 Mark 2 mystery motors sold to factory selected racers. In 64 Chrysler did the same with the Hemi. Ford was planning on doing the same in 65 with the cammer when NASCAR changed the rules to require complete cars to be sold at a volume of one per dealership.
Love the sounds lmao
Plymouth, Dodge, and Ford, until GM started putting in rules that favored them.
GM got the Chrysler HEMI banned,as GM couldn't come close to it...
yeah it seemed like the gm motors couldnt take it as long, eventually the 427 ford was a great endurance motor. I think nascar let them run two 4 bbls to the hemis one 4 bbl , not sure
Yep, the biggest crybabies in the world.
We aren’t winning, so let’s cry for changes.
That’s the history of Cup in a nutshell.
Are they dubbing in the tire squeals, or is that just what bias plys sounded like back in the day?
david pearson: greatest driver in the history of racing. except for me last Saturday night.
+Thomas McGauley You mean, of course, after Richard Petty. 200 wins and seven titles says it all.
Pearson won his 105 races in less than half the starts Petty had, he was at least Petty's equal
i was born and raised in Daytona beach. saw em all. hung out around smokey yunick's best damn garage in town as a little kid. the best most natural and most talented driver I ever saw was david pearson. petty always said the best driver he ever saw was pearson.
@@bogusbill488 no he was smarter than Petty in setting a car up. Had more wins than Petty in a shorter period. Had he kept racing, his number of wins would have been fantastic. Even Petty said Pearson was the greatest driver in racing.
great video. just a little over the top with the squealing tires sound effect.. but good video..
So Petty is like 10 miles ahead of everyone else . I'm sure that car was legal
sure as hell aint todays candyass 500,,,
Hi Gary, do you own this footage? I am interested in using it in a Documentary, can you send me your contact details? Thanks
I do not own it .. I just transferred it for a client years ago .. have no idea where that client is now.
Nascar should return to it's beginning. Stock cars only modified.
@ 2:21 - Screeching roof ????
revolutionpm What can I say? It was the thing to do back in the day to add screeching tire sound effects for any accident.
***** Seriously, this was a great upload.
+revolutionpm Doesn't even look like the same race, unless they were still racing 1960 Fords and other cars from the gull wing era. Looked again and spotted a 61 Chevy among the cars that were spinning out. 5 and 6 year old cars in a 1966 race? ...But then again, back in 60' or 61' during a pile up at Daytona 500, I saw modified cars from the 30's involved. That was definitely from that current year since Daytona Speedway was only a couple of years old and the 1930's cars were crashing into 1960's cars and a few 57 Chevys and Fords....Just thought by 1966 they might have refined the rules and most of the cars would be current models.....plus all of the cars in the pile up on this video are early 60's...and maybe a few 59's.
the 3rd place car was 2 laps behind, the NASCAR officials of 2019 would come unglued
Was this the only 500 run on Mars?
KKBundy12345 It's unfortunate--most film color processes weren't permanent back in the day, so depending on exactly how it was processed you'd get fading (you see the same sort of thing with a lot of color photos from back in the day). Technicolor usually didn't fade, but it was expensive and required specialized equipment.
This video could easily be digitally color corrected. I'm sure someone would love do it.
Has there EVER been a more handsome driver than Fred Lorenzen?
Nope.
Yup, Daniel Patrick.😂
Specially Prepared says the announcer in regards to Pettys Plymouth from Hell. Ill say! AND HOW
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They're going damn near the same speed in 1966 as they are today on a shittier track.
Definitely dubbed...notice when they skid , every skid uses the same sound ...2nd, the car is sliding on grass yet has the same skidding sound
They did that on the Wide World of Sports and the like for use on TV. That's where these clips come from. All in the name of Dramatization...
No, it was done either for cost savings. Take the film, edit it, and do the voice over, and the other sounds in a studio.
In this case, since it was used for Plymouth marketing, bought and paid for buy Chrysler Corp.
Those bias ply tires squealed even when the car was on the roof! Amazing.
Why pass Yarbrough with a couple laps to go and a lap up. Just risking him spinning you out
The announcer actual thinks Yarborough can make up a lap with 13 miles to ago, what a clown!!!!!
The commentary for these old videos is beyond corny: "Just to be on the safe side, with these fantastic speeds, Petty takes a quick, precautionary pitstop!" WTF? Hahahahaha!
A h when racing was racing. When all you did was paint a number on the side of the car and put on a helmet. They were actual stock cars. And real men unlike the crybabies we have today. No mention of f o y t or Ned Jarrett although they were on camera briefly. I believe 66 was Ned Jarrett last year as a driver. And I remember him mentioning that shoulder harnesses wer made mandatory that year.
They stopped being "real stock cars" about 1962 when the Wood Brothers cut the front of the car off and added a front clip. And going back to the 1950s, they started requiring roll cages in the car. And I'm pretty sure that by this time, every car in the field (regardless of make) used a Ford 9" rear end.
So, a heck of a lot more that "paint a number on the side of the car"
Smokey would have smoked the Big Dodge Chrysler , Ford and Mercury Teams with a Car he built in his Garage.. but The Big money factories cried and gave Smokey a list of things to change that would have taken him two weeks ..
If only ford was allowed to run the SOHC...
And that is exactly why NASCAR sucks today...
Anyone driving the Hemi had an unfair advantage for a year or two.
428 c.i.
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GM bought out Nascrap! have not watched for 15 years and never well again even if they even the field again! Love it when the idiots that run the other make of of cars waste there money on the nascar family. Nascar well always take GM money!
steve larass Lost in the 50s,eh Steve????
Since you haven't watching, GM was only paying "rent". It's Toyota's turn, now.
DDS, you are writing to an idiot. He hasn’t watched in 15 years, but he knows what is going on.
i would love to see these era hotrods burning up the daytona black top now . enough of cookie cutter robo series
nascar sucks these days, i hope it goes under. soo boring now.
My Lord, the inserted overdone tire screeching is ear shattering. Stop doing that crap.
See if Danica Patrick had been a driver in 1966 she would have won like 90% of all races....ya know what I mean!!
It's bad we can enjoy Daytona like the old days you can if you have alot of MONEY working people made NASCAR???