Roxane Gay’s Book Club: How Colson Whitehead’s “The Nickel Boys” Is Not Green Book (Extended Cut)

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  • Roxane Gay's book club has arrived. And it got real as we talk about Colson Whitehead's new book "The Nickel Boys" with Mira Jacob, Mike Eagle and Debbie Millman
    (Warning: There are spoilers)
    TIMECODES OF WHAT WAS DISCUSSED:
    6:30 - Why did you keep reading?
    10:00 - Nickel Academy is based on a real place
    17:00 - The Twist. “It blew my mind”
    19:00 - No book is perfect. This is what we didn’t like
    21:00 - Group has disagreement over Harriet
    24:00. - Elwood's parents whisked off the stage
    25:30 - Is there any character besides Ellwood that isn’t a one-note character
    28:50 - Give black women some dignity in the pages!
    32:00 - Overcoming impossible circumstances to make a life for yourself
    34:00 - Why didn't Whitehead show us more of Turner?
    40:00 - Passage about not being normal
    40:50 - Male sexual trauma and brutality
    44:15 - He didn’t Game of Thrones it
    45:10 - Questions for Colson Whitehead
    46:05 - Oh Shit! He got us again!
    47:40 - What would this story look like if it happened today?
    49:00 - Final thoughts
    52:20 - Open Mike Eagle Book Recommendation
    52:50 - Debbie Millman Book Recommendation
    53:23 - Mira Jacob Book Recommendation
    53:45 - Roxane Gay Book Recommendation
    Watch the spoiler-free version here - • Roxane Gay's Book Club...
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  • @VICENews
    @VICENews  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Watch the spoiler free version of The Book Club right here, right now - th-cam.com/video/rKOyDrLYsQA/w-d-xo.html

    • @Gearsowar117
      @Gearsowar117 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im pretty shure felix was the one who had the "original" idea of talking about books on youtube for 40 -50 mins , pewds ftw

  • @sorbet8465
    @sorbet8465 5 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    lol I thought the title was Roxane's Gay Book Club not Roxane Gay's Book Club.

  • @Sher10194u
    @Sher10194u 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I thoroughly enjoyed this book and the discussion. More episodes of Book Club please!!

  • @TheOfficeIsBananas
    @TheOfficeIsBananas 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I had that same reaction when I realized that cover played into the book!

  • @KleWdSide
    @KleWdSide 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    22 reviews on Bookmarks; 20 rave, 1 positive, 1 mixed.
    Clearly not a piece of crap book.

  • @joniheisenberg6691
    @joniheisenberg6691 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This book is AMAZING ! It is so gut wrenching and vivid. I am still reeling from this read.

  • @nannette5754
    @nannette5754 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Really needed Millman to stop interrupting everyone good lord

  • @Mimicomom
    @Mimicomom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think Colson Whitehead mentioned to @rgay that she likely read the ARC and that the whole cement/concrete thing was fixed in the published copy. But I will check this out when I read the book.

    • @leah8417
      @leah8417 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Elvina Barclay 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @TheMalcolm87
    @TheMalcolm87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am pages from finishing this book, it is really a beautifully written book. Some of the most tragic imagery is so beautifully written that I was in awe of the sentence but in pain because of what it describes. He's such a clear writer. I also really love the Author's Note and the beginning of the book, let you know how this book came to be.

  • @rachelleanna3
    @rachelleanna3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Everybody needs a Harriet to get through a successful life. Someone who has our backs.
    I agree with Debbie that sometimes woman give up their lives for the sake of their people. My Aunt gave up her life for her family caring for her siblings, their offspring and aging mother. She never married and at the end of her life she was abandoned. No-one took her on and she died alone in a nursing home she hated.

  • @MartynaViola
    @MartynaViola 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I finished reading the book tonight and I don't have anyone to talk with about it, so here I am enjoying this wonderful chat!
    I'm realizing that in this novel characters are kind of functional to the story.
    Denise, who is she? I had to look up the book to remember the first woman he was with in New York was not his wife! 😅

    • @twylataylor4558
      @twylataylor4558 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      A new virtual book club loveagoodstory.com was just created to offer a community for expression after reading. You may be interested. . .

  • @andrewsmiker
    @andrewsmiker 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Wow! A thoughtful, lengthy, and nuanced discussion between some smart people...with 50% downvotes. Great work TH-cam 👍

  • @FayTaylor65
    @FayTaylor65 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When will the next episode be aired!? I could never find this on HBO unless it's an online thing only. trying to patiently await the next episode!

  • @zethuzulu7202
    @zethuzulu7202 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just finished reading this book and MY GOD Colson is gifted. What a gut-wrenching read...

  • @perishaw7388
    @perishaw7388 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone have any recommendations for book club channels that go into in-depth book review conversations like this? :)

  • @oscaralmonte-espinal8557
    @oscaralmonte-espinal8557 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Lost Children Archives by Valeria Luiselli is a book based on the lost children at the border.

  • @jillhbaudhaan
    @jillhbaudhaan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is a great 50 minutes a video but I think the beginning of the title should say in all caps spoiler alert that being said I really enjoyed this

  • @JloveLamar
    @JloveLamar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How did y'all not see the shadows merged as one on the cover?? 🤣🤣

  • @ib5131
    @ib5131 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I want aunts like this.

  • @Tubs428
    @Tubs428 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t see what they’re trying to get at with this thing with the women in the book

  • @lauristonbrewster9097
    @lauristonbrewster9097 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    45:38 hands down, I think Elwood would've become a journalist, with a focus on civil rights & politics.

  • @starcherry6814
    @starcherry6814 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I think that I'm going to check out this book!

    • @LionMartell
      @LionMartell 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Star Cherry how’s your comment posted two days ago when the video came out 1 hour ago. Fake comment fake news.

    • @starcherry6814
      @starcherry6814 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@LionMartell Lol this video had been unlisted for 3 days. Vice News sent out a link if people wanted to watch the full conversation 3 days early. Guess I was the only one that wanted to hear more 🤷‍♀️

  • @lauristonbrewster9097
    @lauristonbrewster9097 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    48:35 the answer to that question: you get a badge #georgefloyd

  • @smartparagraph
    @smartparagraph 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    _*Thank you✨💫💯_*y

  • @MelaniaGadja
    @MelaniaGadja 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why does the white lady keep interrupting Roxane? 🤨

    • @xionzang
      @xionzang 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Roxane Gay and that white lady, Debbie Millman, are actually married. Or back in 2019 dating.

  • @ivalynnmyatt5312
    @ivalynnmyatt5312 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Discussion - But Be Warned: FULL OF SPOILERS!

  • @ib5131
    @ib5131 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Only Colson I know is Colson Baker.

  • @jill9206
    @jill9206 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loll the people in the comments who are angry because Roxane's surname is Gay hahaha fk me

  • @FloridaMan69.
    @FloridaMan69. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    first

  • @thesmartonepoint0
    @thesmartonepoint0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    First of all yes. Secondly Octavia E. Butler. That is all.

  • @user-um9we6wq9u
    @user-um9we6wq9u 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    شغله محيرتني البنات هم يسبن ويفشرن بيناتهن
    لو بس احنه

  • @johnshaw8228
    @johnshaw8228 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I happen to have some detailed first-hand knowledge on this subject. That book the nickel boys from the nickel Academy is so twisted and convoluted and distorted it's almost impossible to get any idea of the facts from it as they actually happened. That boy who was hitchhiking and picked up by somebody in a stolen car was not on his way to college by any math remains and never did go to college. He was an escapee when he was picked up by that person with a stolen car he was a runaway. The boys in that school committed serious offenses against their inmates such as sexual molestation, attacks, beatings, they stole their food and clothes and shoes, and one boy was beat up so bad his teeth were knocked out all over the floor and he spent weeks and weeks in the hospital at the expense of the State of Florida and many other things happened. They got beat with leather straps as counter influence is against their constant criminal recidivist violent Behavior. That novel is a crock of s*** which really doesn't matter in America. I found that out a long time ago the truth is irrelevant.

  • @scorpiusjones5436
    @scorpiusjones5436 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is great. That green book was just white savior nonsense, again.

  • @supguys1491
    @supguys1491 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gay

  • @smartparagraph
    @smartparagraph 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    *_Basic English for writing skills📝📕📚♣️_*

  • @svartorivigt5016
    @svartorivigt5016 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    VICE *''NEWS''*

    • @OjaysReel
      @OjaysReel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Your attempt at being edgy only serves to show your critical ignorance of the segments that come under the umbrella of news programs. Please don't breed, but if you seek such an endeavor, try it with a less intelligent species. This one has no use for your vacuity.

    • @lysandervalerius9837
      @lysandervalerius9837 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Name me one news network that doesn't have a general commentary panel.

  • @johnshaw8228
    @johnshaw8228 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll give you a piece of advice. Take all this nickel Academy BS with a grain of salt.

  • @LionMartell
    @LionMartell 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Up next: straight white male book club.
    They changed the title of this video since my comment 😂

    • @andrazziherl95
      @andrazziherl95 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Gay's her last name, you idiot.

    • @andrewroys5591
      @andrewroys5591 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I bet most sjws would cry injustice if that happened

    • @Dankman3
      @Dankman3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The authors name is Roxanne Gay brainless prick.

    • @OjaysReel
      @OjaysReel 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      This blundering nincompoop.

  • @ThePhukst1k
    @ThePhukst1k 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yawn. I see you’re on the bandwagon Vice.

    • @sandrallewellyn2632
      @sandrallewellyn2632 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      What bandwagon? Why is it a "yawn"? Genuinely interested in a reply

    • @ThePhukst1k
      @ThePhukst1k 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The greatest meme of millennial and gen-x’rs. It’s getting old, it’s everywhere.
      It’s taking over our politics, media, and hell, even capitalism.
      You can purchase a investment vehicle called an “exchange traded fund” weighted on the social responsibility of corporate governance.
      Not the most ridiculous thing I’ve heard, but it’s a testament to how stupid people are.

    • @CRtrain
      @CRtrain 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love ETFs!

    • @ThePhukst1k
      @ThePhukst1k 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Christian Rosselli haha yeah, the ESG is basically identical to the SPY, except the fee is significantly higher.
      People actually buy this nonsense, lol.

  • @frankgarofalo7722
    @frankgarofalo7722 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    DONT POST ANOTHER ONE OF THESE STUPID BOOK CLUBS. VICE HAS GONE DOWN THE DRAIN!