When you have to unplug electronics, it’s important to pull out the plug for a minimum of 10 seconds. It really makes a difference compared to unplugging and plugging right back in because electricity is still running through your equipment when you perform this action you have to give your equipment enough time to release the energy that was just in it. That’s why 10 seconds minimum is required.
I have the Denon 3700H and I can assure you that all the Denon avr's run HOT - whether in an enclosed or unenclosed cabinet. The power output running 7, 9 or more speakers throws enough heat to fry an egg. Why Denon refuses to offer class D amplification is beyond me. My solution for the heat issue is a fan from ACInfinity. Mine sits on top of my receiver exhausting heat out the rear but they have cooling options for any setup. Looks like you've got a pretty neat setup so enjoy.
I've seen firmware issues on new hardware on many types of electronics like this before. These receivers are mostly in transit still so the software teams could have easily tried to panic rush something through faster than they should have. Hopefully by the time most people get theirs there is just one update that is needed and it runs smooth.
After running for a few days the setup issue seem to have resolved itself. No issue now. Geek Squad came out to replace it and problem was gone. They set my input to HDMI 4 and made an ARC connection between the AVR and my Samsung tv. All good. Will keep it.
@@hifihometheater Will do. Considered moving onto a 4700 that someone was selling for $1300 but cooled on purchase when I saw specs for 3800. Current setup is controlled by the 3600 that I was able to purchase for $900 in 2020 pre covid confusion. The good old days for AV/HT! Anyway thanks for update.
I might upgrade to this or the 4800H. I've had the 3400H almost 5 years now. I upgraded to the Samsung OLED a couple months back so now I want a 2.1 AVR.
Hi. I just got the X3800H and every time I turn it on, I get a "Starting up. Please wait..."8 message which takes a minute before I can use it. Does that happen to you as well?
Just set up my new AVR-X3800h. System: LG-OLED+Denon 9.1surround+AppleTV, So far it's impressive, but I can NOT get my AppleTV remote to power ON/OFF the Denon. My previous Onkyo had no problem. All HDMI CEC controls are turned ON in LGTV. Using proper HDMI IN's/Outs ( Out=Monitor 1, E-Arc/ARC). Anyone else?
So, I just set up a x3800. I'm running a set of Golden Ear Triton 2+ where they each have powered subs. Subwoofer out #1 works and plays test tone but, sub out 2 will not play test tone. Both speakers will play test tone out of sub out #1. Am I missing something?
Make sure you have two subs selected innthe speaker setup. If you do have it set to two subs, I ran into a similar issue when running Audyssey just from the avr with no app. Try seeing if there is a firmware update. If not, I would recommend buying the $20 Multeq app and using it
@@hifihometheater yeah, I haven't even bothered with Audyssey. I'm just running Direct for music and double bass for movies (LFE+Main). I have both sub sections in each Triton connected to sub out 1 with a Y connecter. Work around. I'll look into the software. Thank you
My Excuse sir , Don't understand something , you got a nice dedicate room for Home Theater but your tv size doesn't match your big room ? congratulation for your new Denon
More 3800 Videos please. I want to see more of the new beautiful designed gui. Is it possible to change the color scheme? I like your content, keep up the good work!
@@hifihometheater Yesss. I am very excited about it. Thanks for the answer. It seems that you're currently the only TH-camr who got hold of this device. Probably not easy to get.
Just got the 3800H. Did both updates without errors. Love the sound but am about to send it back if I cant get the setup menu to display on my Samsung 4K TV (it shows on the AVR's front panel only). My Series X and Switch displays on the TV great but anything coming directly from the 3800H only shows on the front panel (HEOS, USB, Internet Radio, etc) Any suggestions appreciated.
I am interested in your review as I am thinking of trying out the 3800 against my Marantz 7706. I really am a person that loves detail and punch in moves. Like you said in another video I am wondering if I am loosing some of that to the warmer (what people say) sound of the Marantz. That and have 4 subs out would work for me.
I have not seen measurements for the 7706 but the 7705 measurements showed where that "warm" sound comes from but then the 8015 measurements looked really good so Im not sure. If the 7706 measures like the 8015, i would say you're not missing anything but if they didnt improve it from the 7705, i would say you are. With the 8012, the "warmth" (distortion)was very audible to me
I'm not one who subscribes to the notion that amps and AVR have an inherent 'sound' to them. Boiled down they are nothing more than electrical energy passing voltage back and forth. That said, I think it is better to look at price and build quality, but just don't buy cheapo crap. Regarding sound it is more the software that dictates 'audio sound,' which can be calibrated to a listeners' delight, witness Audyssey and others like that. One last comment about Denon and Marantz avr's. They have an ECO option that left on will definitely have a negative impact on power to subs. Go into system properties and turn it off. There is also an option that allows one to show the status of ECO mode when pressing volume control.
@@mikemmikem2758 Denon dosent power your subs, the subs go in the pre-am, you need an active/powered subwoofer so i dont know what are you talking about.
If I dont need hdmi 2.1 is it worth buying the x3600h? I dont want to spend over 1k and the x2700h and x3600h are the ones I could get with the x3600h having way more possibilities
Just to confirm that this is indeed a firmware update issue, i updated my X3800H again.. there are 2 updates.. when i finished the 1st update, i went back into "Amp Assign" the "Preamplifier Mode" cant be activated already!! then i thought with the 2nd update, it would fix that issue, but it didnt... So looks like i gotta "Redo" the "Hard Factory Reset once again to Fresh out of Factory State" once again...
Good question. It is actually this 100' fiber optic HDMI. Has been working great for years. I noticed its only 18Gbps though so i may have to swap it out in the future a.co/d/5asVxqO
Good question. This is not the first time I have had issues with updating firmware on a Denon avr. It happens. They have always been generally problem free for me so I don't expect there to be any difference with the 3800
@@hifihometheater I had bad experience with Denon avrs I tried a Denon avr before but I dislike how much issues I had with them. And there costumers service is horrible. So now I'm using my 2013 onkyo which I never had an issue with and it's still working in 2022. So I have decided to stick with onkyo. Which I plan to upgrade my other mid range onkyo model to the RZ50. But if it's still giving issues I guess try to contact Denon
I recently bought surround speakers and set everything up. Although I installed updates, this weekend I got some new ones. I installed them and next day the receiver wouldn't work, just like yours. The device is bricked. I'm furious. It did offer me an update every ten restarts but it wouldn't update and now it can't connect to the internet because I did a factory reset.
Did you eventually figured a way out through this? I am having similar issues, with my denon X2400H. Did a firmware update and now I can neither connect to the Internet nor connect to my phone via Bluetooth. Any idea?
@@user-lx9kj8qv3p the issue with mine was the HDMI chip if I remember correctly. It needs replacement and it's expensive. The chip is around $100 plus work, plus diagnostics and some other stuff. Probably around $300 and there's no guarantee it will work. Mini didn't have picture and it was frozen. If you don't have wireless maybe the wifi or Bluetooth chip is faulty
@@user-lx9kj8qv3p What you can do is find the chip on the board and heat it up with a hair dryer. It might fix it temporary for a week or three months. You never know. It might not work at all.
@hifihometheater I'm trying everything in the book and nothing is happening or giving me any options to set the TV up nor giving me any option to update software. Just a Denon screen
@@elijahelijah2042 If it is stuck on the Denon screen, Assuming everything is plugged in correctly; you should be able to get to the menu with the remote. Check the remote batteries. You can also try doing a factory reset. If that doesnt work, I would call customer service. manuals.denon.com/AVRX3800H/NA/EN/GFNFSYvyalrwrt.php
@@elijahelijah2042 its not in the menu: Turn off the power using Power Button . Press Power Button while simultaneously pressing TUNER PRESET CH + and TUNER PRESET CH -. Remove your fingers from the two buttons when “Initialized” appears on the display.
When you have to unplug electronics, it’s important to pull out the plug for a minimum of 10 seconds. It really makes a difference compared to unplugging and plugging right back in because electricity is still running through your equipment when you perform this action you have to give your equipment enough time to release the energy that was just in it. That’s why 10 seconds minimum is required.
this happened to me. you must unplug the hdmi cable from your tv and restart the AVR before pluggin it back to fix.
I have the Denon 3700H and I can assure you that all the Denon avr's run HOT - whether in an enclosed or unenclosed cabinet. The power output running 7, 9 or more speakers throws enough heat to fry an egg. Why Denon refuses to offer class D amplification is beyond me. My solution for the heat issue is a fan from ACInfinity. Mine sits on top of my receiver exhausting heat out the rear but they have cooling options for any setup. Looks like you've got a pretty neat setup so enjoy.
Most of the heat actually comes from the hdmi board
Im going to get all the channels cranking and bust out the laser thermometer just for fun lol
This.. ALWAYS run a fan, or more
The worst thing is that there are built fans but I didn't even know about it because they never turn on!
I used a laptop cooler on top of mine.
I've seen firmware issues on new hardware on many types of electronics like this before. These receivers are mostly in transit still so the software teams could have easily tried to panic rush something through faster than they should have. Hopefully by the time most people get theirs there is just one update that is needed and it runs smooth.
I agree. There is always a chance for hiccups with firmware updates. Its not a big deal
After running for a few days the setup issue seem to have resolved itself. No issue now. Geek Squad came out to replace it and problem was gone. They set my input to HDMI 4 and made an ARC connection between the AVR and my Samsung tv. All good. Will keep it.
Thanks for sharing content especially some of the setup issues.
I'm very interested in seeing new GUI and initial setup of 38xx or 48xx.
Im going to do a video this weekend running through the GUI. stay tuned.
@@hifihometheater Will do.
Considered moving onto a 4700 that someone was selling for $1300 but cooled on purchase when I saw specs for 3800. Current setup is controlled by the 3600 that I was able to purchase for $900 in 2020 pre covid confusion. The good old days for AV/HT!
Anyway thanks for update.
I'll be getting the X4800H to replace my X4400H, but only after Dirac live in enabled and prices are settled.
In other words, at the end of next year.
I had the same initial firmware update issue. Followed the on screen panel instructions and it worked fine after that.
I might upgrade to this or the 4800H. I've had the 3400H almost 5 years now. I upgraded to the Samsung OLED a couple months back so now I want a 2.1 AVR.
I also just got the AVR-X3800H and ran into the same error code you had and reboot and it works. Very strange.
Really interested to see how the Arendalls sound with this receiver both as the amp as as just the processor. Thanks!
Nice room!
Thanks! its almost completely done!
Hi. I just got the X3800H and every time I turn it on, I get a "Starting up. Please wait..."8 message which takes a minute before I can use it. Does that happen to you as well?
Just set up my new AVR-X3800h. System: LG-OLED+Denon 9.1surround+AppleTV, So far it's impressive, but I can NOT get my AppleTV remote to power ON/OFF the Denon. My previous Onkyo had no problem. All HDMI CEC controls are turned ON in LGTV. Using proper HDMI IN's/Outs ( Out=Monitor 1, E-Arc/ARC). Anyone else?
Wow
So, I just set up a x3800. I'm running a set of Golden Ear Triton 2+ where they each have powered subs. Subwoofer out #1 works and plays test tone but, sub out 2 will not play test tone. Both speakers will play test tone out of sub out #1. Am I missing something?
Make sure you have two subs selected innthe speaker setup. If you do have it set to two subs, I ran into a similar issue when running Audyssey just from the avr with no app. Try seeing if there is a firmware update. If not, I would recommend buying the $20 Multeq app and using it
@@hifihometheater yeah, I haven't even bothered with Audyssey. I'm just running Direct for music and double bass for movies (LFE+Main). I have both sub sections in each Triton connected to sub out 1 with a Y connecter. Work around. I'll look into the software. Thank you
Same happend to me on Denon AVC4700X I think new firmware have some bug🤔🤔🤔
My Excuse sir , Don't understand something , you got a nice dedicate room for Home Theater but your tv size doesn't match your big room ? congratulation for your new Denon
Its a 85" TV. I may add a drop down screen and projector in the future. I had a dedicated room with a projector setup before this.
More 3800 Videos please. I want to see more of the new beautiful designed gui. Is it possible to change the color scheme?
I like your content, keep up the good work!
Im going to do a video this weekend running through the GUI. stay tuned.
@@hifihometheater Yesss. I am very excited about it. Thanks for the answer. It seems that you're currently the only TH-camr who got hold of this device. Probably not easy to get.
Just got the 3800H. Did both updates without errors. Love the sound but am about to send it back if I cant get the setup menu to display on my Samsung 4K TV (it shows on the AVR's front panel only). My Series X and Switch displays on the TV great but anything coming directly from the 3800H only shows on the front panel (HEOS, USB, Internet Radio, etc) Any suggestions appreciated.
Had the same issue, tried cables, tried pj, monitor and tv, firmware=current - no success, so i filed the return form, bye bye denon-banana product.
So you tested it yet? How does it sound compared to the X6700H?
i've got the x2800h and have to say it's a total pos , sounds good but everything else about it sucks
I am interested in your review as I am thinking of trying out the 3800 against my Marantz 7706. I really am a person that loves detail and punch in moves. Like you said in another video I am wondering if I am loosing some of that to the warmer (what people say) sound of the Marantz. That and have 4 subs out would work for me.
I have not seen measurements for the 7706 but the 7705 measurements showed where that "warm" sound comes from but then the 8015 measurements looked really good so Im not sure. If the 7706 measures like the 8015, i would say you're not missing anything but if they didnt improve it from the 7705, i would say you are. With the 8012, the "warmth" (distortion)was very audible to me
I'm not one who subscribes to the notion that amps and AVR have an inherent 'sound' to them. Boiled down they are nothing more than electrical energy passing voltage back and forth. That said, I think it is better to look at price and build quality, but just don't buy cheapo crap. Regarding sound it is more the software that dictates 'audio sound,' which can be calibrated to a listeners' delight, witness Audyssey and others like that. One last comment about Denon and Marantz avr's. They have an ECO option that left on will definitely have a negative impact on power to subs. Go into system properties and turn it off. There is also an option that allows one to show the status of ECO mode when pressing volume control.
@@mikemmikem2758 Denon dosent power your subs, the subs go in the pre-am, you need an active/powered subwoofer so i dont know what are you talking about.
If I dont need hdmi 2.1 is it worth buying the x3600h? I dont want to spend over 1k and the x2700h and x3600h are the ones I could get with the x3600h having way more possibilities
Between those two, I would get the 3600. It has excellent 3rd party measurement results. I've never seen the 2700 tested so that is a unknown.
Just to confirm that this is indeed a firmware update issue, i updated my X3800H again..
there are 2 updates..
when i finished the 1st update, i went back into "Amp Assign" the "Preamplifier Mode" cant be activated already!!
then i thought with the 2nd update, it would fix that issue, but it didnt...
So looks like i gotta "Redo" the "Hard Factory Reset once again to Fresh out of Factory State" once again...
Usually after an update the receiver tells you to turn the receiver off then on.
What’s the length of the hdmi between the tv and the Avr?
Good question. It is actually this 100' fiber optic HDMI. Has been working great for years. I noticed its only 18Gbps though so i may have to swap it out in the future
a.co/d/5asVxqO
We have a Gamechanger here boys!
I think so as well. If this AVR performs the way I expect, it will be a real disruptor in the AVR and Pre/Pro space.
@@hifihometheater am gonna sell my X3700H and purchase the X3800
Is the game on is the blu-ray on if not it will be a blank screen
So is the Denon shuts off and turns back on. When doing the update. Have you always had this issue with other Denon products?
Good question. This is not the first time I have had issues with updating firmware on a Denon avr. It happens. They have always been generally problem free for me so I don't expect there to be any difference with the 3800
@@hifihometheater I had bad experience with Denon avrs I tried a Denon avr before but I dislike how much issues I had with them. And there costumers service is horrible. So now I'm using my 2013 onkyo which I never had an issue with and it's still working in 2022. So I have decided to stick with onkyo. Which I plan to upgrade my other mid range onkyo model to the RZ50.
But if it's still giving issues I guess try to contact Denon
I recently bought surround speakers and set everything up. Although I installed updates, this weekend I got some new ones. I installed them and next day the receiver wouldn't work, just like yours.
The device is bricked. I'm furious.
It did offer me an update every ten restarts but it wouldn't update and now it can't connect to the internet because I did a factory reset.
Did you eventually figured a way out through this? I am having similar issues, with my denon X2400H. Did a firmware update and now I can neither connect to the Internet nor connect to my phone via Bluetooth.
Any idea?
@@user-lx9kj8qv3p the issue with mine was the HDMI chip if I remember correctly. It needs replacement and it's expensive. The chip is around $100 plus work, plus diagnostics and some other stuff. Probably around $300 and there's no guarantee it will work. Mini didn't have picture and it was frozen. If you don't have wireless maybe the wifi or Bluetooth chip is faulty
Thanks for your reply, every other thing works well, the issue with the WiFi and Bluetooth only started after I did a firmware update.
@@user-lx9kj8qv3p What you can do is find the chip on the board and heat it up with a hair dryer. It might fix it temporary for a week or three months. You never know. It might not work at all.
I swear i dont get it.
What did you do to get it off the Denon screen?
The blue Denon screen? That is just the default "no signal" screen
@hifihometheater I'm trying everything in the book and nothing is happening or giving me any options to set the TV up nor giving me any option to update software. Just a Denon screen
@@elijahelijah2042 If it is stuck on the Denon screen, Assuming everything is plugged in correctly; you should be able to get to the menu with the remote. Check the remote batteries. You can also try doing a factory reset. If that doesnt work, I would call customer service.
manuals.denon.com/AVRX3800H/NA/EN/GFNFSYvyalrwrt.php
@hifihometheater Thank you sir, it's not giving me an option for factor reset. Thanks again will call them
@@elijahelijah2042 its not in the menu:
Turn off the power using Power Button .
Press Power Button while simultaneously pressing TUNER PRESET CH + and TUNER PRESET CH -.
Remove your fingers from the two buttons when “Initialized” appears on the display.
Why can’t anyone get straight to the point. All this weird breathing
I’ll pass out if I don’t breath though