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I'm saving up to get the Marantz Cinema 30 and be one and done with it for years to come.

Excellent review man. Subed.

Schlub a dub dub...

Roon gives you a bunch of metadata, not the actual track.

Best sound and disk is my favourite, Eagles farewell one tour

One of the honest reviews. Thanks mate, orderd one today. Coming from 1700 H.

I’m using a 20yo Pioneer Elite avr rated at 140wpc, 8ohm running 2 channels, 20hz-20khz. Driving a pair of Polk ES20 bookshelf speakers, plenty of power on tap. Loads of analog and digital inputs including Phono and hdmi, plus sub and preouts and bass management. Great burr-brown dacs too. I don’t know why avrs get such a bum rap for stereo.

Your suggestions work fine for multichannel set up, not so much for true hi fi 2.2 two channel set up. For those of us who are true hifi two channel first enthusiast, the old fashion sub integration for music is also necessary. In my case, I have a Hegel h390 Integrated amp driving the main channels. The receiver does the processing and drivies the remaining channels (HT set up). I do my cross over at 110hz for movies, and at 60hz for multichannel concerts. However, the Hegel is also used for two channel duties and my subs are fed a seperate line out ( subs receive LFE from receiver for multichannel set up, and also line in from the Hegel h390). In the 2.2 set up, the main speakers receive full range frequencies as do the subs, but I set the sub internal low pass to 110 hz, and the gain on the subs is a good 15 dbs lower than the HT set up. Please note that this 2.2 sub integration is the way subs have been integrated for two channels for 50 years. Hey, I'm 64, and into the hifi addiction since 19. Thanks for your contribution to the community.

That's right you need to go out and get your KY-Cable... Lol

Thanks for this great review. I know it's the f200's we're reviewing here, but I have to ask - Do you or anyone here have experience with, or a qualified guess on how the Anthem MRX 1140 Receiver would handle the f100's for 2ch and 5.1ch. The 1140 is amazing and have a lot of power for a receiver and works really good on my 8ohm Polk ES60 2.1 and 5.1 setup, but I worry a little bit about how it would handle the 4ohm f100's speakers, specially in a 5.1 setup and if I were to get Martin Logans Center and surround speakers as well.

I have powerful 2 channel amps and formidable full range speakers to go with them. They basically qualify as end game systems for music. But, I also like 2.1 or 2.2 for music and an AVR is the best way to affordably get over 100 WPC/8Ohms, plus sub outs with comprehensive bass management. Even pre HDMI AVRs are good for this purpose, with many of them built like tanks and able to drive 2Ohm loads. The old one I have can even be bridged. I have 2 AVRs just for 2 channel music. I use them more than anything else.

Thanks. I've been looking to make additions to my bedroom setup that will still work with my exiting ML XTi series. Not identical, but the previous series has gone out of stock.

This is by far the best video I have found on setting up base shakers/tactile transducers. No one seems to mention that these things need to be tuned, especially if running from the LFA on your receiver. So, thank you for putting this together! I am hitting the exact problem you are describing. System fully tuned and timed using Audyssey One (A1 EVO) (it's amazing, by the way Google it if you have not heard it ) on my Marantz SR6014 receiver. I currently have two independent subwoofer outputs, each connected to its own subwoofer. I recently purchased four Dayton Audio BST-300EX. One for my chair, and three for the couch, with an individual amplifier for each shaker. So, power is not my problem. When I run the sub output from my headphone amplifier into the shaker’s amplifiers, I get amazing power. Can barely turn it past three. When I run the LFE out from my receiver, using the Audyssey One corrected LFE corrected output, virtually zero sound unless I crank the shaker amplifiers about three quarters of the way up. I do have two miniDSP 2 x 4 HDs. Sounds like what you are saying is I could split the LFE output from the sub 2 output, and run one straight to the subwoofer, and run the other into one of the mini DSPs. Then I can boost the gain and adjust the EQ to add back whatever Audyssey removed from the receiver's LFE’s output? Is that possible? I watched another video where I downloaded an app for my android phone, called Accelerometer. I can place in my actual sitting position and measure the variance in the vibration in 5 Hz increments from 5Hz up to about 60 Hz, where I would cross over. I can do this just using simple test-tone videos on TH-cam. So, basically use the accelerometer instead of a microphone to get the measurements to boost or subtract certain frequencies. Would this work? Anyone else have any input? All input appreciated. This has been making my head ache for a month now! Either way, I hope you come out with that new video soon! Sorry to be so verbose. Typed this too fast!

I only have a 3.1 setup, i don't need to pre amp a huge amount of speakers

I just have svs bookshelf speakers svs center channel and sb 1000 subwoofer for this 3800h

Have this BLU-RAY disc and love it too. How about reviewing JOHN WILLIAMS LIVE IN VIENNA ?!? Got this disc from Germany thru a friend of mine that lives there. My best regards from BRAZIL !!! 😊

Are these harsh at loud listening sessions, treble wise?

Your conpression issues on the Arendals must be a bad tweeter or something else. The arendals are thx certified and measured by tons of reviewers and are know to perform at high spl. I own the 1723s towers and have no problems whatsoever. Watched dune 2 at reference and it was great. That soundtrack true hd is no joke. 😂

I have a Yamaha AVR with one sub-out. I connected a splitter to connect a Sony Sub but the sound was to low vs. the same Yamaha Sub that is both connected to AVR sub out with splitter. I tested the Sony Sub in Sony AVR and its load. Any thoughts on this?

Actually, I am a recording and mixing engineer and we just filter out at 60Hz with third oder filter and around 18 kHz so I think there's no contents that has data on that low end and high end area. Why do you wanna pay more for that area?

How do they compere to the New svs elevetion ultra, or kilipsch rp 800 mii?

Wasn’t worth it to me when you can pick up a pair of 60TXi’s on close out for 2 grand. The F200’s are great but at $2749.99 each my decision was an easy one. The 60TXi’s look great in Red Oak too! 👍

Bought the splitter in my case it didn't make any changes compared to single mono RCA in the red port

Very interesting review. Im struggeling between the 5 x Monitors of the non S and the 2 towers and 3 monitors in a 24qm living room with an 9 qm dining room extension. With what is said the 5x monitors are better with a 60hz crossover in home theater?

I like the class D Crown amps because they are super-efficient, and they drive sub woofers extremely well. I have a Crown XLS 2502 driving a set of Skar DDX15-D2 sub woofers. Even though the XLS series of Crown pro amps have RCAs in, using them only gives about 60% of the rated power. The sensitivity adjustment does help, but if one needs to run the Crown at full power from RCA cables as I did, I had to use an ART Cleanbox Pro. The Art Cleanbox Pro is a converter that makes home sound equipment’s connections compatible with pro-equipment. I am also am using a Crown XLS 1002 as a mono block to drive another 500-watt sub. But in this case, the cleanbox is not needed, as 60% of 1100 watts is plenty enough power. The cleanbox is also not needed for any of these XLS amps to drive 98% of all the theater speakers out there.

Seems like a lot of TH-camrs are getting into sound demos of their systems playing particular clips which won’t restricted such as that infamous Ready Player One scene. Have you considered doing a video where you demo that racing scene on your Martin Logan’s? Could also be a nice cutaway while you review the whole system as an ML system or simply an Anthem Receiver review? Just ideas… cheers

Me: Marantz AV 7005 pre, Yamaha M85, Marantz CD6006, SVS sb12, Sunfire D-10, Wharfedale EVO 4.2's, I haven't heard anything better yet, stay separates, stay gold pony boy!

Good video. Basic electrical. Ohms law.

my sub has the right and left inputs but my receiver only has a single sub pre out so im wondering if I can still use it without buying a splitter. Either using just the left or right in the single preout

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Hi After watched your video I bought new Denon 3800 yesterday. I am setting up now. Past I was using Onkyo TXNR 636 + Firetv 4KMAX for Netflix, Prime and VLC player for downloaded 4K Atmos Content. Now I am upgrading Receiver and adding 4 ceiling speakers for Auro3D I need your suggestion do I need to upgrade VLC to PLEX and FireTV 4K MAX to NVidia Shield Pro to get Atmos and Auro3D ? My confusion is When Denon AVR has all features VLC and FireTV pass through Audio then what is the need of Plex and Nvidia.

Really appreciate this video. Very clear delivery. Would also appreciate a minidsp setup tutorial like you mentioned. Thanks

They are awesome, super happy with them. One point: if you build a home theater full of folded motion tweeters, the treble is additive, so yea ... EQ is your friend.

Nice , Thanks

Just got this receiver and listening to music i wonder if there's a better option for 1000 to 1500 euro's. Movies sound great, clear, detailed sound but the dac in this amp seems to be the bottleneck for a better experience listening to music. Are the dacs in the Marantz 50 or pioneer 505 better for Tidal etc...? Maybe the Onkyo rz50 also is a better option?

Thank you for this review. I've been considering these speakers, and they're on a very short list. One odd (perhaps) question. Does the 50.75" height include the spikes? And where does one get those washers you're using?

Awesome job, thank you so much I really like how you made it so easy. Recently sold my ML summit X looking make 5.1.4 in my living room/ i have very good Processor (audio control x7 ) and good multi and 2 ch amp ( Audiocontrol 7 ch amp , Bryston 4b set , anthom 352 g2 ) What do you recommend speakers for 70 movies 30 music ? I’m not sure buy the 13a or just XT f200

21:10 There have been a few reports of these baffle issues being warped from F100 & F200 owners, it doesn't instil much confidence nor does it bode well for long-term durability, certainly not something I'd expect from a quality manufacturer like Martin Logan especially their "flagship" floorstander product, the F200 has a RRP of $9999 in Australia which is crazy, sure street prices are much less but still even at $7999 AUD those build quality issues are of major concern :(

Thanks for the video. I'm thinking about using these as side surrounds in 5.1 as a flexible option and maybe use as heights when I add more channels later. Do you think they would do well for that purpose?

Queen Rock Montreal just came out on Friday and it is amazing!

I swear i dont get it. What did you do to get it off the Denon screen?

i'm a total novice when it comes to electronics. can some one please explain why on the back of the speakers the top two connections ,says 8 ohms and the bottom says 4 ohms . in the tech section the speakers are rated at 4 ohms. Thanks

I've listened to Eric Clapton: The Lady in the Balcony, Hans Zimmer: Live in Prague, Roger Waters: The Wall on my Dolby Atmos system. Each was a great improvement over stereo or 5.1/7.1 soundtracks. My favorite is Hans Zimmer's album which features movie soundtracks. I use it as a demo.

Oh man, thanks for the reminder about Snarky Puppy. I've been waiting for a bluray release from them. Exciting that it is in Atmos, weird it's not advertised at all...

How would you make these adjustments for Audyssey XT32 with the mobile app and not the MultiEQ-X PC application?

Here is the link to watch this on TH-cam th-cam.com/video/76GrBO7sYec/w-d-xo.htmlsi=tfS6ci005NZR1Fqq

great review thanks.what is the size ov your room