Metal Planer Restoration 69: FINALLY - The First Chips Have Been CUT!
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- Metal Planer Restoration 69: FINALLY - The First Chips Have Been CUT!
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Fantastic accomplishment. It’s amazing that a precision machine from the early era is back making a living “making chips”. Your dedication and perseverance is inspiring. Thanks for taking us on this l o n g journey from rusted, broken hulk with missing parts to an important part of your shop.h
You already said every thing i was going too.👊
This is so awesome to see after having seen the whole restoration effort.
Nice chips coming off that camel back. Would be interesting to see a gang setup of 4 or 5 straight edges in a row, if that is possible. Great job Kieth, outstanding.
It is, but the set up for it is a pain.
I'm thinking adjusting that clapper to the more in the right direction would help that finish on the bevel
Totally flabbergasted! I can certainly see why the shaper was developed. Still, it's amazing to think of 140 or so years ago someone working on that machine to produce steam engine parts or what ever. Great series.
I'm going to wager the restoration of this machine just might be better than original. A good belt dressing will help reduce the belt slipping. Unfortunately "good" belt dressing like was used when flat belts were common is hard to find. The best I've used is liquid Cling Surface. It was a coal tar based product. Anything similar today probably has an asphalt base. The stick type belt dressing is another unobtanium product.
Interesting. How stupid would it be to have a can of super 77 or something similar for just a spritz now and then?
Watching those belts sling from side to side is mesmerizing and impressive. (as I was writing this the belt slipped off drat lol) Awesome job saving history!
a great day in the shop lots of hard work and patience pays off, the ultimate shop is coming together one step at time, the old elephant just got a little smaller.
Edge Precision has just made some really good Toe Clamps
Guy is amazing
A brilliant restoration of a truly magical old machine, so great to watch the belt shifting mechanism, and the cuts and finish are really good. Well done Keith and thanks for sharing!
Finaly the first cut since the restoration, been a long road getting there.
For tool grinds I guess Abom would be the one to ask, he might have some ideas after all the work with the shaper he has done.
Congrats!
Your planer is still better 🤣👍
I was expecting Keith to put the lacing on with a hammer and was going to comment that he should contact Hand Tool Rescue to see about getting a belt lacing (machine? press? clamp?) tool. I guess I should've figured he'd have one.
"Hand Tool Rescue Face" goes right here
Sometimes you want to be getting under that cast surface to the grey stuff in the first pass....as it can be hard due to chill....🇬🇧🙂
NICE WORK Keith!! Great to see it working - the belts flying off was de rigor for a first run. Your aplomb was admirable!
Theres probably only a tiny number of metal planers this old that still function and a much smaller number that have been as exquisitely restored. If you feel an immense sense of pride, its warranted. 👍
Another example of the saying, "when you design it right, it's always right". Congratulations to you for proving that axiom with this machine!
Great accomplishment, Keith! That’s a lot of machine, a beast really for a hobby shop. You can be proud that you own it and brought it back to life. 🙂🙂
It's a thing of beauty Keith, congrats!
What is the gear lash like on the table drive, it sure sounds awful. After grinding and scrapping I'm sure you compensated by lowering the main drive gear properly.
I know someone who had gear mesh problems they couldn't adjust out with any success. they ended up using lapping compound on the gears and it took care of the bad mesh noise. Otherwise, great job. Maybe contact Steve Watkins over at "Steve Watkins at Work". He has a hydraulic planer that cuts smooth as butter. Between him and Adam Booth (and others) I'm sure you can get better cuts.
That is what we were waiting for. Congratulations on a job well done. Thanks for the video.
Historic. Congratulations. Now you have some "BEFORE" video that you can show later when you get things dialed in. You deserve to be very proud of what you have done. Thanks for the video. It's appreciated.
Quote "I'm happy with the results". So you should be, that was a long road - nicely done. Congratulations.
WOW great to see all the work pay off and bringing a historic piece of equipment back to life. There is a saying Perseverance is the Bridge by which Difficulties are Overcome well done Keith.
Looking good Keith!
I would try to reduce the stroke on the belt shift mechanism.
You have PLENTY of width on the sleeper pulley on both sides, and you are using ALL of it. You could easily reduce total side shift an inch.
Also notice, the belt is overhanging the drive pulley on each side. I was not the least bit surprised it kicked the belts off.
Congrats, Keith. Definitely a milestone...as is your subscriber count on the verge of 200k!
Great to see the planer running!! On the 45° down cut on the straight edge, you clapper box is orientated in the wrong direction!
I'm wondering if a heavy grease would quite the gear and rack down a bunch. It's great to see a piece of history over 125 years old looking so good, and working so quickly .. I'm sure you will get the kinks out.
Ran a Rockford belt drive planer similar size to yours when I was an apprentice over 35 years ago.
This is where I learned how to grind HS tool blanks into cutting tools.
Been there and done that with the belt lacing. We used a belt dressing stick on those slipping belts. We’d rub the dressing stick onto the gripping side of the running belt. That sticky belt dressing helped with heavy cuts.
Hi Keith:
Nice job! I use to work for Morse cutting tools. So I have a good idea what you were doing. Morse had line shafts throughout the factory.
Keep up the good work.
Would adding some cutting oil improve the cutting finish, that rusty plate is screaming out for some oil. Also would it help to have the table coated with WD40 to prevent that flash rust. My arm is itching to grab the spray can. Great to see that perform so well after its long restoration. Greetings from Tasmania 42 South.
When your boss walks by and says “maybe you could tweak the travel a bit? Looks like you’re spending a lot of the stroke cutting air”.
The 45You made we cut both down and up to save time and touch up the tool edge for the last down cut GREAT to SEE the machine up and running !!
Great day in the shop! It's been a fun series Keith.
With the right fixture you should be able to line up eight or ten of your straight edges for some gang planing.
Thanks for sharing,
Cheers
HI Keith I just had an Idea i dont know if it will work though. Was thinking you could use a magnetic chuck same as the surface grinder to hold parts just an uninformed Idea its yours if you want . good work on the metal planer she works sweet...
Finally!! Ha ha! Yes hooray the beast bursts into life and cuts chips. Congratualtions of the restoration. You said get familiar with it over the next month or so but I bet you are still learning how to coax it into perfection for many years. What a fabulous thing to get something that's maybe 130 yrs old turning out a flat surface like that. Brilliant!
Sounds like the return stroke is stimulating a resonate frequency of the bull gear. It wouldn't be period correct to apply sound deadening material, but...
Awesome!
Any reason you can't pre-stretch your belts? Maybe hang them from the rafters with a weight on the bottom end.
I like his videos unfortunately Im no longer going to watch them. One thing I cant stand is heavy nostril breathers. I have no clue why they do it and its plain disgusting. A lot of times these people are extra heavy exhalers through their nose. Its an extremely nasty habit.
I would frame the first chips. Fantastic job, It has been a true pleasure watching this. GREAT JOB!
This is fantastic Keith. A true pleasure to watch that rusting hulk restored to glory.
Keith, your toolholder has some flex. You can see it move at the beginning and at the end of every contact with the workpiece, i think its from the clapperbox. Congratulations to that great restoration! I really enjoyed it.
A top relief type of shearing tool bit works well on planers. Round on point to flat on cutting edge. But lots of chip clearance. Almost like a drill bit face.
I use to have 6 dial gages on the planer I use to use for the steel mill repairs.
Keith, the planer project is so exciting to see in operation. Kind of mesmerizing to watch. IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE STOKER ENGINE CAN BE FITTED TO PLANE THOSE TWO SURFACES ON THIS PLANER after you have dialed it in? It appears to have the height and certainly the travel. Just need the tooling to reach down in.
Going to run into the same clearance issues Adam had on the shaper, cant get in there.
One would wander what kind of milling machine and tooling was used on production of the stoker engine back in the day? There must be documents on this within Keith's vast archives.
Awesome
Maybe you could build something like a two piece vise? One steady jaw that gets bolted down to the surface directly and one with a moving jaw that can also be mounted in different locations
All sorts of forgotten ways to have an accident with this machine! Well done Keith.
Keith, it's all in the tool grind. You have done a great job bring this old girl back to life. Have watched the entire process and enjoyed it all. Hope to visit your shop some day. Maybe one of your work share projects. Best to you. Philip
I'm glad too see it running with no problems it sure puts my atlas shaper to shame! lol I've the same problem with the pawl on mine.
Our old faithful 12 foot bed planner does not make the clatter as your does perhaps it is the type of grease .
Congratulations, Keith! It cost you an arm and a leg, but the machine works. Amazing that this ingenious contraption already worked 130 years ago.
Bloody awesome Kieth, been waiting for this day to come around, thanks for sharing, Cheers
That belt drive is a wonder to behold. I suspect the rough finish is mostly due to tooling, feed, and cutting angles. The machine itself should be fairly rigid.
Looked like there was some pretty serious deflection on the clapper box on the 45 degree cuts... I wonder if that part of the machine needs some attention.
Adam loves using his shaper, so he should be able to give you some good ideas in getting your tools correctly sharpened.
Ooo, I've been looking forward to this!!
ffs Keith ... it's not flat .. it rocks on the table .........
OSHA approved
Of course! Check out the OSHA guidelines for 1890.
would be very careful with your apron around moving machinery parts, open gearboxes etc.
A fine idea! I wonder what they did in 1890? Naked machining?
Many congratulations Keith, a reward for all your hard work. :-)
Nice to see the payoff. In the future I would be interested in seeing the limits of the machine. I know it’s not like a big shaper but it would be nice to see how big of a chip it can make.
Loved watching the whole restoration. South Bend lathe bed will be very interesting to watch you do. Keep up the great video's, always a thumbs up for me.
Very satisfying! Great to see the results of your hard work. Thanks for taking us along for the ride.
The belt movements is mesmerizing - ingenious for the time it was made! Loud as crap! Imagine an entire barn shop filled with these machines, no belt guards, moving parts exposed - def no OSHA!
“Finally” is right! Epic journey. Congratulations! 🎉 Must have been something when a belt came off a line shaft. Interesting how the replaced belt recenters itself. I wondered when you had one belt left and one belt right. It seems like this machine might always be a bit finicky (demanding?) to operate, taking lots of attention even for an experienced operator.
Incredible work, Keith! Thanks for sharing this incredible journey with all of us while also providing and preserving so much knowledge along the way! Your work in these projects truly helps preserve an era and way of life that should always be remembered. Thank you!
Great stuff Keith. I've been waiting for this moment. What an achievement to bring this old monster back to life. The original operator will be applauding you - wherever he is!
WooHoo! Success! Congrats Keith--I marvel at your persistence. I am happy you took us along on this excellent journey.
Just for the record, as you are probably is aware, Dave Richards of the old steam powered machine shop channel has a very similar planer (identical?) run by overhead belting and could be a resource on operation of your antique planer. Congratulations on a massive effort successfully completed. Cheers.
Fantastic! I would love to see a stack of straight edges machined at once.
I can already imagine the noise. Like a room of typists at full tilt.
When the cutter is dragged back it seems like you need to have an angle ground on the back side to allow the cutter to slide up over the work. Does dragging the cutter back damage the cutter in any way?
Generally a smaller angle is better for strength. Chattering on the backstroke damages the tool over time. We attached a beanbag of lead shot with elastic bands to the clapper box to dampen vibration and skipping.
Outstanding Kieth! Just beautiful! A BIG CONGRATULATIONS! Adobe well done. Thanks
Keith, I subscribed when you were moving this into the shop. I'd never seen anything like it before, and wanted to see the restoration. That was a long time ago, but I'm glad I stuck around to see this one through!
What a fine example of dedication to restoring older machinery that can still do useful work and at the same time preserve our heritage! Congratulations. Now you can have some fun with your new toy!
Congrats on the first chips.
Fantastic to see the metal planner up and running, work holding is always interesting on the planer and can be quite challenging at times enjoyed the video keep up the good work Keith.
After watching the restoration it was great to see some chips.. Thanks for taking us along for the ride Keith !
Followed all the way , Trial & error , Gremlins , but your perseverance came through !!! Awesome work ....Making CHIPS !!
MAKING CHIPS!!!
Great accomplishment by you and your shop.
Patience and persistence TRIUMPH over time.
I can see where you could set up a gang of straight edges, 6 or 8 on the table
THanks for the hard work setting up the planer.
Just Awesome!
Keith, it's great to see that piece of vintage machinery making cuts again. It was a pleasure to watch this series and the outcome is a credit to you, your patience and work ethic. Thanks for taking the time to document the whole project and allow us to follow it. Mart in England.
Congrats Keith, it's been a long road for you on this project. You did a great job👍
Outstanding!
You've done a fantastic job and it's been a joy following along with each video of the process. This machine will now outlive us all and your legacy will be preserved with it.
Sir Edmund Rucker has Summited Mt. Metal Planer! Congratulations!!!
You said it best Keith
Finally
And its awesome
CONGRATULATIONS, KIETH! Amazing work as usual. Excited to see what projects you will use it for.
Good Morning Keith!
When it comes to tenasity, Keith,.... your the man!! If Keith tells you he has a piss ant that can eat a bale of hay,?....well go get your bale of hay, and watch it disappear one bite at a time!
I think there is only (2) things Keith can't repair,...But don't bet on it:
(1) A broken heart
(2) the crack of dawn
EXCEPTIONAL RESTORATION!!!
BEST WISHES, AND GOD BLESS!
GARY
Hallelujah Lordy! What a great accomplishment Keith! Congrats!
Very cool to see all the components working together. Makes one appreciate the level of ingenuity that went into designing and building at a time of lesser technology than we have today. Could a grinding head be attached and use it for precision grinding? No longer 1890’s machining but might be cool to see that.
Congratulations on first chips. Great restoration and the final tweaks will make it a great machine
Well let’s get that straightedge over on the surface plate for a proper inspection.😎
At last!! Congratulations Keith, the results look fairly good, just a few tweaks on the cutters and you seem good to go. Looking forward to seeing it do some real work now!
Very cool chips! Nice and smooth, but not quiet...
Congrats on a wonderful machine restoration! Lovely work!
Congratulations! What a wonderful "toy". The movement of the belts looks beautiful and somewhat relaxing. (At least as long as they don't jump off the pulley ;-) )
And so the Great & Terrible Rucker/Abom79 Planer Wars of 2021 began...
If I hadn't heard other machines like yours in operation I wouldn't know better. That noisy table return gear assy NEEDS to be addressed! Something that noisy has to be wearing not only on its parts but certainly hard on the your ears to say nothing of mine!
Go away.
@@paulcopeland9035 You will notice in the latest planer video the gear noise is much quieter. FYI the squeaky wheel always gets the grease!
What beautiful curls your baby has! Congratulations, Keith!
Future project idea... Infinite vise for the planer bed.
You know folks are going to buy those straight edges just to have something produced on that machine. :) I'm so thrilled for you getting to use it, after all that work. Congratulations, my friend.
I would never need one of those straight edges, but for some reason, I now feel like I need one!
Love the mechine . Belts switching in the background. Noise . And your concentrating. So awesome. Thanks for sharing 👍
With the appropriate cutter would this planner be able to reach those difficult areas in the stoker engine? Looking forward to seeing this machine fine tuned and making great cuts.
Congratulation Keith. You have the patients of Job. Enjoyed very much going through the restoration you so kindly shared. God Bless.
Hi Mr Keith! New subscriber courtesy of Hand Tool Rescue. Just wanted to say thank you for all the content you've created, presently working through the back catalog( just finished Victor Safe 11). I've learned more in the first few weeks of watching you than I have some channels I've been watching for years. Really appreciate the time you take to explain your process and the thoughts behind them. Also wanted to say Congrats on 200,000 subs, you definitely deserve it!