Challenge: Solve all WCA puzzles (including clock) in a row, but after every move (or clock button push), you must swap to the next cube/puzzle in the cycle until you solve all of them.
Back in the day, before algos were commonly known, it was actually SUPER impressive for someone to be able to solve it. I remember a scene from "Pursuit of Happyness" where Will Smith's character was able to solve it through intuition alone.
It was apparently considered extremely impressive how Will Smith actually learned to solve the Rubik's cube, and was able to do it for real in that scene. I think I remember seeing it in lists of celebrities having "hidden talents".
that isnt actually an example of someone solving it without algorithms and i'd think theres genuinely only a handful of people who have dedicated the time to do so including erno rubik
I really thought this is an April fools video posted in a wrong month but I was wrong! that was really fun to watch as I finally saw an alternative solution to a 3x3x3 cube than the usual solve that I use! Very awesome video.
I like how your intuitive solution has more common steps from minor methods like Roux and ZZ. Makes me think that CFOP was more like a computer-oriented method that does not feels as organic as the alternatives.
CFOP is very easy to understand visually. Every step creates more solid blocks of color. It doesn't make the most sense as a puzzle solver, but for beginners it actually makes the most sense. Roux is like an optimization of corners first, and I guess that's why it's the most intuitive of the big 3.
I have memories of playing with a Rubik's brand cube at my grandmother's house as a kid, and of learning to solve during the pandemic of 2020. It's so fun to see you trying to work through the process!
i wish tutorials covered basic puzzle solving principles more rather then just making people remember the algorithms with no understanding of what they are doing. That is a great video
This is what I love about cubing. Sure you can memorize algorithms, and practice to the point of solving the cube in mere seconds. But the satisfaction that comes from actually figuring it out yourself is immeasurable! I've known how to solve a 3x3 for a few years now, but recently challenged myself to learn 4x4 & 5x5. And when I ran into the parity issues that come with reduction, I chose to try and solve it intuitively rather than learning the parity algorithms. And the satisfaction I felt when I finally found something that works made all the struggling worth it!
@@JPerm that's exactly what I did every time I get a parity.. then one day I decide to learn an alg for that.. and I try to break it in parts to understand what a hell was i doin.. and also try to see before hand and fix it before I end up with the last 2 edges..
@@Perrocko 4X4 parity is just kinda arghh XD, I can relate when solve naturallu (manually) by making it looks like 3X 3 solving then u just stuck with both sides swapped when others are correct
@@jofx4051 yes parity in a 5x5 it's easier .. and the centers missplaced happened to m alot till i learned from memory where do the go.. I was so relying on others cube to actually having the center stuck there but when you have a par cube 4x4 6x6 you actually have to place them correctly from scratch
@@JPerm That's exactly how I solve the 5x5 still. I figured out how to solve it on my own and just try to get my edges into a group of three to finish off so I don't have to worry about it :D. I really should learn to do it properly at some point...
I know you’re not going to see this but in the small chance that you do, I wanted to let you know that I got 4 of my Wisdom teeth out this morning. This video made me feel so much better and distracted me from any of the pain I was feeling. Thank you so much for making such great videos that cheer I’m sure not only me up, but I’m sure it also cheers many many other people. Thank you so much jperm!
I’ll be getting my first 7x7 soon and maybe these insights can help with solving edge parity without algorithms. And maybe I can come up with my own for 4x4 edge parity algorithms.
This was a really interesting addition to the 'solving with no help' series, especially because I actually learned corners first before beginner's method
Way back in either Christmas '97 or '80 I was given a present of an original Rubik's Cube. I solved it before leaving my basic army training at the back-end of 1980. The first two layers were easy enough although I did the 'F2L' upside down to CFOP. I seem to remember getting the top layer first in place then the sides. Eventually one day the cube came apart and I realised that, after putting it back together, I could work things out backwards. So I did this for a month or so and eventually had a set of moves which allowed me to complete the cube. I guess you might call these 'algs' these days! It was a really slow method of course and very repetitive but none the less worked. In 1981 I had a lucky solve one day where the last layer simply solved itself after the F2L. That one solve is my claim to fame as it was 32 seconds! Was it possibly the fastest up to that point? Considering that the first world record of 22 sec was set in 1982, I like to 'claim' so! By 1982 I was sub 60 sec all the time and I used Vasaline! Well at least my RC was quite quiet! 😂😂😂😂 At the beginning of 2020 I picked up the cube again but could not remember how to do that last layer. I had vague memories, but never really remembered what I used to do. Then one day my fingers just 'did' it! After some 40 years somehow my muscle memory kicked in. Then I found (probably) your channel and converted to the CFOP method. I have had a sub-15 lucky-solve once and at last am back to sub-60 but occasionally am around the sub-30. For me the big issue is all about seeing the colours during F2L. But it is slowly getting better with daily practise! Thank you JPerm for all the hours and hours you have entertained me! All I have to do is practise for the next 37 years so that I get sub-15 by the time of my 100th birthday! 😉
@@JPerm well that's my claim no matter what my sister says!! (long story 😂). The other day I was looking all cool cubing away in a train and this young lad leans across challengingly asking how long I had been cubing. I said "Oh... for a while." He told me he could do it really quickly and asked how quickly I could do it. I casually told him "... usually under 60 secs but I had subbed 15 once..." He said "Oh!" I don't know what I said that upset him, but he sort of disappeared up the isle and I didn't see him again.... youngsters these days! 😂😆🤣
I got a last layer skip recently in school, resulting in a 24 sec solve xD, it is gonna be my personal best for a long time i think, my second best time is 31 sec. (The entire last layer skip, oll + pll skip chance is 1/15500 if i'm not wrong)
I did a challenge like this a while ago and did it completely differently. Instead of banning any algs I knew previously, I only banned ones that I learned, but allowed myself to still use any that I found out just messing around. Because I first figured out how to do one side as a kid I just started with that. After hearing about f2l, I figured out a jank way to do it before learning how to do it properly, so I used that to finish the first 2 layers. For oll, I came up with a 2 flip alg using commutators for the cross, and came up with RU'L'UR'U'L for the corners. Then for pll I broke my first layer, put it back together and redid almost the entire solve to have a very long but working jperm alg. Then I used an edge 3 swap that I found before from just messing around and boom!
@daniyar I accidentally solved it, i mean i accidentally created some algs by just looking at one specific corner piece on first layer, moving it around and moved it back, that's how. It took me 2 months to " Accidentally" solve it. At that time, i just played for fun, really didnt expect to solve it, but i'm a speedcuber now, sub-10
My uncle actually figured out how to solve the puzzle himself in the 80s, but he was a genius lol. I however had to watch your tutorial. Thanks for that, been cubing almost 2 months now and my PB is 31 sec.
@@CubingPenguin my PB now it's 18 something. Those last layer skips are super lucky and save a lot of seconds. Either way that's very impressive! Good for you!
Damn, you did that relatively quickly. The first time I solved a Rubik's cube it took me 3 days (and I was spending like every spare moment on it). I was determined to solve it without help and I spent a lot of time writing down algorithms (with a really whack notation that I came up with myself and I now realize didn't cover a lot of cases :D). I ended up solving in a more traditional layer-by-layer approach - because the first thing I did when I got it was have a look to figure out how it worked and realizing the cube was made out of layers and not out of faces. Was so proud when I eventually accomplished it.
The cube I got, an Integear cube, came with an instruction ppamphlet that has ten algorithms on it for solving the cube, of which I memorized six, which is good enough for me. Plus an algorithm I picked up from Mathologer that rotates one corner in one layer, and messes up the opposite layer to compensate.
Yes, finally! I've been waiting for such a video for a while now. I felt almost as excited when you solved it and now I wanna see you perfect your method. 😁
I vividly remember what it was like when those things came out and we were all on our own as far as solving it went. I was an undergraduate math major at Caltech, and quickly pretty much everyone at Caltech had one, and was furiously working at figuring them out. At the time I was taking abstract algebra and we were required to do a term project. I couldn't think of anything interesting to do so went to my professor to see if he had any suggestions. I made the horrible mistake of bringing my cube with me, and when I asked him if he had any ideas for a project he said "The answer is in your hands", so now I not only had to figure out how to solve the damn thing, I had to tie it to group theory instead of just stumbling on a few algorithms and calling it a day or I'd fail abstract algebra. It wasn't as bad as it could have been, because my professor did agree that I could limit myself to the 2x2x2 cube.
This is actually very encouraging as I am still struggling to solve it on my own (no, I'm not going to just memorize known algorithms). I only just within the past few months have taught myself to intuitively solve the first two layers. But solving corners first is a method I've also explored.
Your method is actually almost exactly the same the one Minh Thai used in the 1982 World Championship. He would use Ortega to solve the corners, and then solve three edges each in the top and bottom layers, leaving one edge slot open to move the centers and edges around. Then he somehow would get the last two edges and solve the last four edges and centers. I don't quite understand the last step, but I think it's worth looking into.
You just need to solve both pieces at the same time. First you put one of the pieces in the solve position then you drop it from the slot but you need to drop it in a way that it aligns with the other piece so that when you solve the other piece the drop piece will also be solve. It is the same method of breaking up and solving it another way but the setup is to make sure that dropping one edge aligns it to another edge so they can be solve together.
I learnt an algorithm on my initial days of cubing. It took a bit of effort but it got the job done. It (almost)follows the same principle that jperm explained in 4:52: 1. You make progress. 2. You run out of ideas. 3. You break progress by removing the pieces 4. You restore the progress by putting them back solved
my dad taught himself how to solve a Rubik's cube. No algorithms, no help, no book, no instructions. He actually came up with his own algorithms in the process of figuring out how to solve it. I learned the algorithms that everyone else knows, and it's always so fascinating to see the differences when both of us sit down together with a cube and solve it. My dad with his own algorithms that he invented and me with the algorithms that every cuber knows. I love how creative you can get with them
When I had no idea how to solve the last layer of the Rubik's cube, I came across a video where the cube was solved in a different way. Building 2x2x2 blocks and expand it to 2x2x3, leaving one edge free to push up the rest of the edges to the point of solving all the edges leaving several corners unsolved. A few years after I learnt the beginner's method, I came across another video where someone had a tutorial on how to solve a Rubik's cube without memorization, it is the same thing (though he solved the first two layers slightly differently, solving one layer first, then insert three of the edges, leaving one edge to solve all the top edges), he taught me commutators. Eventually I understood how commutators was done. I learnt these from the following channels. Phillip Brocoum thepuzzledmagician
Jperm, I think you should do another video showcasing all of your cubes again. You have gained a lot of subscribers and cubes since then, including the holy grail: the 21x21. So pls do another video like that. Thank you!!!
I LOVE this. I thought that figuring the 3x3 out by yourself would be REALLY difficult, but what you've shown here is something that seems very reasonable and most importantly, very intuitive. Now I am inspired to try and solve some puzzles I forgot how to solve, by myself!
WOW. That's exactly how I also solve a rubics cube back when I was in 4th grade when I am just starting to learn how to solve, the way J perm saves the edge piece when inserting the Corner piece. This video brings back memories. Anyway I'm now 20 years old and now I use CFOP. and my personal best is like 20sec. Thanks to all your CFOP tutorials. lets go!
Now that I watch you perform this monumental task (amazing!) - I recall from the early 1980s when I got my first original Rubik's cube as it hit the market, I approached it solving it like you are here. That is, I went for corners first, then edges. I never really figured it out though. I got pretty far, but couldn't figure out say, how to cycle-three edges or two corners etc. I now understand a lot more about cube theory, and Algebraic groups etc. which is very helpful. At at the time back in the 80s, I knew that I had to do a bunch of moves to set the cube up such that the pieces I was trying to manipulate would be located where I KNEW how to be able to perform some operation on them, but ALMOST ALWAYS messed it up and couldn't back out. In other words, I knew intuitively at LEAST about conjugates. I don't think I quite figured out commutators. The deeper problem was I got confused and lost so easily when actually doing the moves. Which brings me to my question here, and something still I have trouble with. You have an amazing ability to be able to recall those conjugates and commutators that you come up with on-the-fly, seemingly without error. You can remember the moves, but more amazingly, you recall their inverse perfectly. Not just once, but repeatedly - with long pauses between execution. Wow! How have you achieved this remarkable ability? Anything special you can suggest to help with building that skill? Thanks so much!
That's awesome!!! I like how you stuck with your rules. And even forced the redo when it was "too lucky". Came up with your own algorithms , or actually discovered them or somewhere between. Like how Petrus discovered the Sune, he knew others probably discovered it too, but only he named it so epically. You absolutely deserve that sense of accomplishment.. I learned the x method almost 20 years ago. When i teach ppl how to solve i usually teach that method. From what I've read Rubik solved it with a very similar method.
I’ve tried to do this a couple of times and come up with multiple ways of solving the cube other than cfop but I always end up slipping in one or two non-original algorithms (u perm or commutators) so this is really cool
I'm super happy that when I sat down to learn how to solve one I didn't look up algorithms or anything specific on how to manipulate the cube. Really the only big hint I got was to look at the cube as pieces instead of tiles. I wound up doing CFOP with algorithms I made up myself. With a lot of my steps being horribly horribly inefficient of course. I didn't have another cube to test stuff on so to keep track of how unsolved pieces moved in relation to other unsolved pieces I had to like extensively write stuff down in a note book. It never occured to me to explore my algorithms on the solved layer ...
Kind of straight up 80s CF until cross on all sides. I don't think anyone would even try to do horizontal middle layer moves on a classic 80s Rubik's cube. What I did back then was just the following and a mirrored version to swap around 3 edge pieces, 1 in second layer and 2 in bottom (original move style to allow full palm turns): [ldR'rd'][R'dRr'd'] (probably messed something up in that :) Guess commutators were banned because its known algorithms. Otherwise I think they are more logical path to go, even when trying to figure things out. And you end up calling them 3 piece rotation/swap without messing any other stuff up.
Hey J Perm, you’re trying to figure out this difficult puzzles, BUT... I have a challange! Why don’t you make a video getting better/faster at the..... SQUARE-1 You’ve been fearing it for a long time, but I think it’s time. “I Tried to Get Faster at The Square-1” It’s gonna be amazing.
those dan brown videos are how i learned, way back in 2007. what a blast from the past. thank you for that lol. i had completely forgotten about those videos
The best I could achieve without any youtube or any outside help was the first 2 layers. And that too only one time. The moment I tried to get to the top layer, within 5 minutes the thing started to fall apart. But I was very happy that day and showed it to everyone around what I had accomplished. That was the intended fun for this puzzle actually.
I have figured it in about 8 hours. You just have to build upon every new concept. Then I solved it for 5 times with an average of 13 min and 30 sec. Basically my experimental playing brought me to a 4 move sequence that allowed me to shift 3 edge pieces in a circular motion. Using this I managed to put all edge pieces in their place and using the same 4 move sequence shifting a "set" of edge pieces another 3 times, the edge pieces would reach the starting position but instead corner pieces would change their positions. It was just a matter of another few hours to figure out exactly what corner piece moves where and in what order to use my movement sequence in order to solve the cube. A very inefficient method, but damn it feels good being able to do it alone and when you do it more than once you really know you've mastered it. My friends who knew how to solve it found it hard to believe, but knowing it was me they accepted it. 🤓 When someone tells you something is impossible dont believe him and take the challenge, if u feel like it ofc
Okay so hear me out.... What if we try to improve this system and call it J Perm speedcubing method? It may sound dumb but with the right scramble it could be really fast, right?
A few years ago, I actually decided to try this on my own. My thoughts were also to solve the corners first, so I did that, using the algorithm which I invented R U R' U' y L U L' U, which did a 3 cycle of corners. I solved a lot of edges, and used the algorithm M' U M U2 M' U M which is a 3-cycle to solve the remaining edges. It's unbelievable how similar our methods were!
I got my first Rubik’s cube when I was 6 years old. I scrambled it and didn’t touch it for a long time; i thought that they were impossible. When I was 12 years and 7 months old, I picked up that Rubik’s cube, and, knowing how to, solved it. Never give up :)
Phenomenal! I bought a cube 2 days ago and I managed to do it in under 4 minutes today by watching your videos. I can't wait to learn your quicker techniques
Hello, if u go to a comp, and ur really good at 3blind, is it legal to plan an entire 3-style solve in normal 3×3 in 14 seconds instead of solving with a regular method? Plz i subcribed as soon as I found ur channel
I'm not a speed cuber but I did also learn how to do the cube from a tutorial and wish I hadn't, so I got a 4x4 and learned it with no tutorial. Not as hard, but parities were a surprise and a challenge
I got my first Rubik's cube in 1981. I "solved" on one side, on top, basically the same way, edges didn't line up. I got the only book I could find back them, but it confused me at the time. Over the years I'd buy a cube from time to time but didn't accomplish much more. About '95 I bought one and at that time they came with a little booklet with simple instructions. I had a job basically just sitting in one place all day waiting until I was needed(very boring, kind of like reading my writing, lol!) and needed the diversion. I finally did it with the simple algorithms, but still top and corners first. I struggled to try to get faster. A few years later we got the internet and I got a better cube. I then discovered badmephisto's videos. This was the first experience I had with f2l and 2 look solving. From there I searched for better and better ways to solve, get faster and faster. I still only average about a 16 seconds, not bad for me... but to this day, I can't solve ui without the algorithms I've learned. I need to try it like this.
Wow, this is almost identical to the method I came up with back in the day. I already learned how to solve the 2x2x2 from a friend so that gave me a head start and motivated the corners first approach. Honestly, it's how I still solve sometimes, slotting in the edges is fun.
I really appreciate how you rescramble when you get a lucky skip! It's more interesting to see the full end to end solve. But the other side is, when you solve a lot of puzzles, you get a lot of rolls for skips. So it's like you earn it just through sheer volume.
I like how ur intuitive solution is much much more complicated than cfop or beginers, i think that cfop is more of a digital version made of solving not as natural as the other ones
Honestly thank you so much for this, I never thought about “move this away to slide this in and then move it back”. I just solved the white side for the first time!!
Dude I used this video and the same mentality, along with my knowledge of how to solve a 3x3 and 5x5, in order to figure out the X2 puzzle. Always love getting a new puzzle that's a different shape and trying my best to solve it without help. Very inspiring vid :D
This video is really emotional for me: my grandad bought a rubiks cube in the 80s and gifted it to my mum and uncle. I was really fascinated by it and he tought me all the little tricks to solve the first face and then, of course, the first layer. Some years later I was old enough to use internet and look up for a beginner solution and I was then able to solve it in under 2 minutes. He was really proud. Many years later, I showed him my new puzzles like the megaminx and he didnt really understand them ahaha. He passed a few months ago, in january. I am now able to solve the cube in 20 seconds and solving it always makes me think about him. He is really the reason why I love doing all those puzzles and logic games. Thanks to everyone who read this whole comment, it means a lot to me knowing that his memory can spread and that many people can understand just by this few words how an amazing person he was. :)
J perm! I hope you read this cause i've come up with many video ideas. Here are a few of them. 1. The Cart Challenge. You can do this while getting groceries. You solve a rubiks cube while moving a cart and getting your items. 2. The Bag challenge. Put your rubiks cube in a walmart/target or whatever you shop at typer of bag. Try solving the cube in it 3. The Pocket challenge. This is frickin blindfold OH this is to solve a rubiks cube in your pocket.
once I was on a psych ward and another patient brought a Megamix, they didn't remember how to solve it and I spent about 3 days learning how to solve it (i only knew the algorithms for a 3x3), it was really challenging and I had to start from scratch multiple times, but because I used my common sense to solve it I will never be able to forget the steps
You are a genious for remembering everything you do in order to undo it later. Whenever I tried commutators and making up algs, I just can't remember what I did. I have to write it down, and then I mess up reverting it, it gets so frustrating. Great job, J Perm.
In my humble opinion, the by far most intuitive way to solve the cube is to use Heisse + commutators. You don't need any ags at all and everything is fairly easy to explain (except the commutators, but I don't think you can get around those). This is almost exactly the opposite of what you do, because you end up with a 2x2x3 block plus remaining edges both permutated and oriented, then you only need corner commutators, which are (comparatively) easy.
I remember, when I was first figuring out the cube, I did learn that “real cubers” do it layer by layer, and then solved the whole thing with commutators myself. Took like three hours and an A4 scribbled over with my horrible horrible homebrew algorithms written in a hectic half-assed hand-made code, and I was so proud of by myself. I used those ridiculous algorithms for months after that.
At 15:45 I would argue that that case would be easy to figure out for a non-cuber based entirely on the fact that I got into/got out of that case (from solved) while messing around before I knew how to solve a 3x3 That being said, it was really cool seeing you develop another algorithm for yourself without taking advantage of that lucky case!
Challenge: Solve all WCA puzzles (including clock) in a row, but after every move (or clock button push), you must swap to the next cube/puzzle in the cycle until you solve all of them.
ooooh i like that
that would be cool
Yes pls
that's a cool idea
This needs more upvotes
That title confused me at first but this was a fantastic video idea!
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I can’t believe Jperm finally solved a Rubik’s cube. I hope he releases a tutorial soon
he already has done one!
this video mightve been recorded before that one and he wanted to help others before showing him learning it by himself
@@woolsword8200 r/whoosh
@@woolsword8200 it was a joke 😅
@@makerofeditsmov i know, i was waiting for someone to actually read my reply correctly.
@@woolsword8200 oh okay 💀
Back in the day, before algos were commonly known, it was actually SUPER impressive for someone to be able to solve it. I remember a scene from "Pursuit of Happyness" where Will Smith's character was able to solve it through intuition alone.
I thought he did an old version of cfop? Correct me if I’m wrong
@@EG0909 yes ig more like the beginners method
It was apparently considered extremely impressive how Will Smith actually learned to solve the Rubik's cube, and was able to do it for real in that scene. I think I remember seeing it in lists of celebrities having "hidden talents".
that isnt actually an example of someone solving it without algorithms and i'd think theres genuinely only a handful of people who have dedicated the time to do so including erno rubik
@@faizanhassan4406the character solved it without algorithms. Will Smith certainly uses an algorithm.
I really thought this is an April fools video posted in a wrong month but I was wrong! that was really fun to watch as I finally saw an alternative solution to a 3x3x3 cube than the usual solve that I use! Very awesome video.
it was made on funny number day (6/9) thats why this exists
@@in4init3vr 4/20 is also one and its my birthday (april 20th)
@@justalonelycapcutmaster7462it was Hitler's birthday too
@@mattVmatt12I know that and I hate knowing that
@@mattVmatt12omg I relpyed from the wrong account💀(I have to many accounts)
“Corners have the least freedom”
Center pieces: “am I a joke to you?”
I think he meant the pieces that can move to a different position.
@@stellastoyfun9658 yeah, but still
What are you, a corner piece rights activist??
Time for a new activism movement!
@@JPerm Yes. Yes I am.
I like how your intuitive solution has more common steps from minor methods like Roux and ZZ. Makes me think that CFOP was more like a computer-oriented method that does not feels as organic as the alternatives.
Cfop algorithms are the furthest things from being organic/intuitive lol
@@blakethenoobie1433 they agreed and emphasised that part
@@blakethenoobie1433 that’s what everyone has said.
well zz can be even more crazy often compared to cfop but yea
CFOP is very easy to understand visually. Every step creates more solid blocks of color. It doesn't make the most sense as a puzzle solver, but for beginners it actually makes the most sense.
Roux is like an optimization of corners first, and I guess that's why it's the most intuitive of the big 3.
I have memories of playing with a Rubik's brand cube at my grandmother's house as a kid, and of learning to solve during the pandemic of 2020. It's so fun to see you trying to work through the process!
i actually also learned to solve this in 2020 since i was bored out of my mind and i didnt have any way of playing video games
it makes me feel like your a pro cuber and jperm is noob cuber beacuse of the way you talk and I hate it
lmao so I wasnt the only one who learned to solve the cube on 2020
@@bonemasked3925 nah bro the pandemic made everyone try new things. I guess rubiks cube was a popular hobby everyone picked up
Lol i also learn to solve a cube in 2020
Edit:funfact my first ever cube is a white yj guanlong 3x3
There's something oddly satisfying seeing you solve a 3x3 as if it was a new puzzle
i wish tutorials covered basic puzzle solving principles more rather then just making people remember the algorithms with no understanding of what they are doing. That is a great video
This is what I love about cubing. Sure you can memorize algorithms, and practice to the point of solving the cube in mere seconds. But the satisfaction that comes from actually figuring it out yourself is immeasurable!
I've known how to solve a 3x3 for a few years now, but recently challenged myself to learn 4x4 & 5x5. And when I ran into the parity issues that come with reduction, I chose to try and solve it intuitively rather than learning the parity algorithms. And the satisfaction I felt when I finally found something that works made all the struggling worth it!
Figuring out parity is rough! I would have just restarted anytime I got parity haha
@@JPerm that's exactly what I did every time I get a parity.. then one day I decide to learn an alg for that.. and I try to break it in parts to understand what a hell was i doin.. and also try to see before hand and fix it before I end up with the last 2 edges..
@@Perrocko 4X4 parity is just kinda arghh XD, I can relate when solve naturallu (manually) by making it looks like 3X 3 solving then u just stuck with both sides swapped when others are correct
@@jofx4051 yes parity in a 5x5 it's easier .. and the centers missplaced happened to m alot till i learned from memory where do the go.. I was so relying on others cube to actually having the center stuck there but when you have a par cube 4x4 6x6 you actually have to place them correctly from scratch
@@JPerm That's exactly how I solve the 5x5 still. I figured out how to solve it on my own and just try to get my edges into a group of three to finish off so I don't have to worry about it :D. I really should learn to do it properly at some point...
Fun fact: making "one side" is actually part of a method called "ECP." the first step is to do Edge Orientation plus one face.
True
I didn't know tha!
Damn
I mean, OLL is just making one side with a bunch of restrictions
@@Chinesemax yeahh
I know you’re not going to see this but in the small chance that you do, I wanted to let you know that I got 4 of my Wisdom teeth out this morning. This video made me feel so much better and distracted me from any of the pain I was feeling. Thank you so much for making such great videos that cheer I’m sure not only me up, but I’m sure it also cheers many many other people. Thank you so much jperm!
Im leaving this comment so if you get notified, you will probably be greatful for how painless your jaw/face is compared to back then.
I’ve been cubing on and off for ten years now and I have to say, this was so insightful
I’ll be getting my first 7x7 soon and maybe these insights can help with solving edge parity without algorithms. And maybe I can come up with my own for 4x4 edge parity algorithms.
This was a really interesting addition to the 'solving with no help' series, especially because I actually learned corners first before beginner's method
Way back in either Christmas '97 or '80 I was given a present of an original Rubik's Cube. I solved it before leaving my basic army training at the back-end of 1980. The first two layers were easy enough although I did the 'F2L' upside down to CFOP. I seem to remember getting the top layer first in place then the sides. Eventually one day the cube came apart and I realised that, after putting it back together, I could work things out backwards. So I did this for a month or so and eventually had a set of moves which allowed me to complete the cube. I guess you might call these 'algs' these days! It was a really slow method of course and very repetitive but none the less worked. In 1981 I had a lucky solve one day where the last layer simply solved itself after the F2L. That one solve is my claim to fame as it was 32 seconds! Was it possibly the fastest up to that point? Considering that the first world record of 22 sec was set in 1982, I like to 'claim' so! By 1982 I was sub 60 sec all the time and I used Vasaline! Well at least my RC was quite quiet! 😂😂😂😂
At the beginning of 2020 I picked up the cube again but could not remember how to do that last layer. I had vague memories, but never really remembered what I used to do. Then one day my fingers just 'did' it! After some 40 years somehow my muscle memory kicked in. Then I found (probably) your channel and converted to the CFOP method. I have had a sub-15 lucky-solve once and at last am back to sub-60 but occasionally am around the sub-30. For me the big issue is all about seeing the colours during F2L. But it is slowly getting better with daily practise!
Thank you JPerm for all the hours and hours you have entertained me! All I have to do is practise for the next 37 years so that I get sub-15 by the time of my 100th birthday! 😉
What an amazing story! You held the world record in my heart
@@JPerm well that's my claim no matter what my sister says!! (long story 😂).
The other day I was looking all cool cubing away in a train and this young lad leans across challengingly asking how long I had been cubing. I said "Oh... for a while." He told me he could do it really quickly and asked how quickly I could do it. I casually told him "... usually under 60 secs but I had subbed 15 once..." He said "Oh!"
I don't know what I said that upset him, but he sort of disappeared up the isle and I didn't see him again.... youngsters these days! 😂😆🤣
I got a last layer skip recently in school, resulting in a 24 sec solve xD, it is gonna be my personal best for a long time i think, my second best time is 31 sec. (The entire last layer skip, oll + pll skip chance is 1/15500 if i'm not wrong)
@@heitorcar-geometrydash8362 if the chance is 1/15500 then I must be lucky
@@Jordan.... yes, probably xD
I did a challenge like this a while ago and did it completely differently. Instead of banning any algs I knew previously, I only banned ones that I learned, but allowed myself to still use any that I found out just messing around.
Because I first figured out how to do one side as a kid I just started with that. After hearing about f2l, I figured out a jank way to do it before learning how to do it properly, so I used that to finish the first 2 layers.
For oll, I came up with a 2 flip alg using commutators for the cross, and came up with RU'L'UR'U'L for the corners.
Then for pll I broke my first layer, put it back together and redid almost the entire solve to have a very long but working jperm alg. Then I used an edge 3 swap that I found before from just messing around and boom!
Bruh
Great idea👍, but J Perms idea was definetly harder.
70th like, I'm not nice..
Commutators would have been nice. But I had to ban them since I technically already use every commutator as an algorithm for blindfolded...
@@hattu2374 no need to compare
19:59 “I am now finally a real cuber” this means 99% of us aren’t real cubers since we didn’t figure it out on our own 😭
SAD
And since we watched this video we must find a different solution if we wanted to try the challenge
I actually solved a 3x3 by myself when i was 12, 5 years ago. If you want to know how i did it, just ask me.
😭😭😭
@daniyar I accidentally solved it, i mean i accidentally created some algs by just looking at one specific corner piece on first layer, moving it around and moved it back, that's how. It took me 2 months to " Accidentally" solve it. At that time, i just played for fun, really didnt expect to solve it, but i'm a speedcuber now, sub-10
99% Of people who saw this video in their recommended looked at the release date first.
Why is this so true😂
@@expl0sions13 damn bro one year later I find this comment
@@PellyPlayoh
Ok, so I'm in the 1%
@@GabrielCraioveanu same
wasn't expecting zero escape music to start playing after everything else being presumably stock music, I love zero escape
My uncle actually figured out how to solve the puzzle himself in the 80s, but he was a genius lol. I however had to watch your tutorial. Thanks for that, been cubing almost 2 months now and my PB is 31 sec.
Sammeeeeee
Woooooo!!! 3 cheers for almost sub 30 PB's!!!!
Same
I've been cubing for 27 days and my pb was 23 sec with a last layer skip
@@CubingPenguin my PB now it's 18 something. Those last layer skips are super lucky and save a lot of seconds. Either way that's very impressive! Good for you!
Damn, you did that relatively quickly. The first time I solved a Rubik's cube it took me 3 days (and I was spending like every spare moment on it). I was determined to solve it without help and I spent a lot of time writing down algorithms (with a really whack notation that I came up with myself and I now realize didn't cover a lot of cases :D). I ended up solving in a more traditional layer-by-layer approach - because the first thing I did when I got it was have a look to figure out how it worked and realizing the cube was made out of layers and not out of faces. Was so proud when I eventually accomplished it.
i didnt manage to solve rubiks cube without help, but i did discover the sexy moves by myself
The cube I got, an Integear cube, came with an instruction ppamphlet that has ten algorithms on it for solving the cube, of which I memorized six, which is good enough for me.
Plus an algorithm I picked up from Mathologer that rotates one corner in one layer, and messes up the opposite layer to compensate.
The non-cubers are finally right, you need a high IQ to solve a Rubiks cube :O
Remember
Yes, finally! I've been waiting for such a video for a while now. I felt almost as excited when you solved it and now I wanna see you perfect your method. 😁
I vividly remember what it was like when those things came out and we were all on our own as far as solving it went. I was an undergraduate math major at Caltech, and quickly pretty much everyone at Caltech had one, and was furiously working at figuring them out. At the time I was taking abstract algebra and we were required to do a term project. I couldn't think of anything interesting to do so went to my professor to see if he had any suggestions. I made the horrible mistake of bringing my cube with me, and when I asked him if he had any ideas for a project he said "The answer is in your hands", so now I not only had to figure out how to solve the damn thing, I had to tie it to group theory instead of just stumbling on a few algorithms and calling it a day or I'd fail abstract algebra. It wasn't as bad as it could have been, because my professor did agree that I could limit myself to the 2x2x2 cube.
Yikes
Fun.
This is actually very encouraging as I am still struggling to solve it on my own (no, I'm not going to just memorize known algorithms). I only just within the past few months have taught myself to intuitively solve the first two layers. But solving corners first is a method I've also explored.
m.youtube.com/@TALENTZONE222
I learnt myself to solve the cube in 1981 and invented my own algorithms, some I still use today
Your method is actually almost exactly the same the one Minh Thai used in the 1982 World Championship. He would use Ortega to solve the corners, and then solve three edges each in the top and bottom layers, leaving one edge slot open to move the centers and edges around. Then he somehow would get the last two edges and solve the last four edges and centers. I don't quite understand the last step, but I think it's worth looking into.
You just need to solve both pieces at the same time. First you put one of the pieces in the solve position then you drop it from the slot but you need to drop it in a way that it aligns with the other piece so that when you solve the other piece the drop piece will also be solve. It is the same method of breaking up and solving it another way but the setup is to make sure that dropping one edge aligns it to another edge so they can be solve together.
I learnt an algorithm on my initial days of cubing. It took a bit of effort but it got the job done.
It (almost)follows the same principle that jperm explained in 4:52:
1. You make progress.
2. You run out of ideas.
3. You break progress by removing the pieces
4. You restore the progress by putting them back solved
my dad taught himself how to solve a Rubik's cube. No algorithms, no help, no book, no instructions. He actually came up with his own algorithms in the process of figuring out how to solve it. I learned the algorithms that everyone else knows, and it's always so fascinating to see the differences when both of us sit down together with a cube and solve it. My dad with his own algorithms that he invented and me with the algorithms that every cuber knows. I love how creative you can get with them
When I had no idea how to solve the last layer of the Rubik's cube, I came across a video where the cube was solved in a different way.
Building 2x2x2 blocks and expand it to 2x2x3, leaving one edge free to push up the rest of the edges to the point of solving all the edges leaving several corners unsolved.
A few years after I learnt the beginner's method, I came across another video where someone had a tutorial on how to solve a Rubik's cube without memorization, it is the same thing (though he solved the first two layers slightly differently, solving one layer first, then insert three of the edges, leaving one edge to solve all the top edges), he taught me commutators.
Eventually I understood how commutators was done.
I learnt these from the following channels.
Phillip Brocoum
thepuzzledmagician
Jperm, I think you should do another video showcasing all of your cubes again. You have gained a lot of subscribers and cubes since then, including the holy grail: the 21x21. So pls do another video like that. Thank you!!!
Super proud as always. I thank you Dylan for all that I've been able to learn from you. Currently on 45s-55s..Working on cube rotations.
Currently on 20s-25s. Still working on cube rotations.
I LOVE this. I thought that figuring the 3x3 out by yourself would be REALLY difficult, but what you've shown here is something that seems very reasonable and most importantly, very intuitive. Now I am inspired to try and solve some puzzles I forgot how to solve, by myself!
WOW. That's exactly how I also solve a rubics cube back when I was in 4th grade when I am just starting to learn how to solve, the way J perm saves the edge piece when inserting the Corner piece. This video brings back memories. Anyway I'm now 20 years old and now I use CFOP. and my personal best is like 20sec. Thanks to all your CFOP tutorials. lets go!
Oh my god this is insane I can’t believe your attempting this challenge I clicked right away I know how much you struggle with this kind of thing.
Yeah I've had this 3x3 cube sitting on my shelf for years. Could only ever solve 1 side
@@JPerm ikr
Next video: Trying to do the R U R' U' algorithm (With NO Help)
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I thought it was April 1st when I looked at the title
Now that I watch you perform this monumental task (amazing!) - I recall from the early 1980s when I got my first original Rubik's cube as it hit the market, I approached it solving it like you are here. That is, I went for corners first, then edges. I never really figured it out though. I got pretty far, but couldn't figure out say, how to cycle-three edges or two corners etc.
I now understand a lot more about cube theory, and Algebraic groups etc. which is very helpful. At at the time back in the 80s, I knew that I had to do a bunch of moves to set the cube up such that the pieces I was trying to manipulate would be located where I KNEW how to be able to perform some operation on them, but ALMOST ALWAYS messed it up and couldn't back out. In other words, I knew intuitively at LEAST about conjugates. I don't think I quite figured out commutators. The deeper problem was I got confused and lost so easily when actually doing the moves.
Which brings me to my question here, and something still I have trouble with.
You have an amazing ability to be able to recall those conjugates and commutators that you come up with on-the-fly, seemingly without error.
You can remember the moves, but more amazingly, you recall their inverse perfectly. Not just once, but repeatedly - with long pauses between execution. Wow!
How have you achieved this remarkable ability? Anything special you can suggest to help with building that skill? Thanks so much!
That's awesome!!! I like how you stuck with your rules. And even forced the redo when it was "too lucky". Came up with your own algorithms , or actually discovered them or somewhere between. Like how Petrus discovered the Sune, he knew others probably discovered it too, but only he named it so epically. You absolutely deserve that sense of accomplishment.. I learned the x method almost 20 years ago. When i teach ppl how to solve i usually teach that method. From what I've read Rubik solved it with a very similar method.
Plot twist: This was filmed over 10 years ago
I’ve tried to do this a couple of times and come up with multiple ways of solving the cube other than cfop but I always end up slipping in one or two non-original algorithms (u perm or commutators) so this is really cool
"Sometimes that's how you succeed, you just don't try until you know you can probably do it." - J Perm 2022
What I did at 2:49 was move the middle down and put those in place then put it back up
I'm super happy that when I sat down to learn how to solve one I didn't look up algorithms or anything specific on how to manipulate the cube. Really the only big hint I got was to look at the cube as pieces instead of tiles.
I wound up doing CFOP with algorithms I made up myself. With a lot of my steps being horribly horribly inefficient of course.
I didn't have another cube to test stuff on so to keep track of how unsolved pieces moved in relation to other unsolved pieces I had to like extensively write stuff down in a note book.
It never occured to me to explore my algorithms on the solved layer ...
Let me nominate him as the smartest cuber ever .........
wait there isn't even someone good enough to compare!
Kind of straight up 80s CF until cross on all sides. I don't think anyone would even try to do horizontal middle layer moves on a classic 80s Rubik's cube.
What I did back then was just the following and a mirrored version to swap around 3 edge pieces, 1 in second layer and 2 in bottom (original move style to allow full palm turns):
[ldR'rd'][R'dRr'd'] (probably messed something up in that :)
Guess commutators were banned because its known algorithms. Otherwise I think they are more logical path to go, even when trying to figure things out. And you end up calling them 3 piece rotation/swap without messing any other stuff up.
Hey J Perm, you’re trying to figure out this difficult puzzles, BUT... I have a challange!
Why don’t you make a video getting better/faster at the.....
SQUARE-1
You’ve been fearing it for a long time, but I think it’s time.
“I Tried to Get Faster at The Square-1”
It’s gonna be amazing.
Show me beginners method:
*Beginners method that we learned*
I said beginners method:
*this video*
*Perfection*
those dan brown videos are how i learned, way back in 2007. what a blast from the past. thank you for that lol. i had completely forgotten about those videos
Lol you are doing like a beginner jperm 😂😂 btw you are the sponser
"oH I JuSt pEeL Of tHe sTiCkErS"
Here’s a video idea:
Take off all the center piece caps and twist all the corners once. See how fast you can get it to be solved.
Thanks!
The best I could achieve without any youtube or any outside help was the first 2 layers. And that too only one time. The moment I tried to get to the top layer, within 5 minutes the thing started to fall apart. But I was very happy that day and showed it to everyone around what I had accomplished. That was the intended fun for this puzzle actually.
I have figured it in about 8 hours. You just have to build upon every new concept. Then I solved it for 5 times with an average of 13 min and 30 sec. Basically my experimental playing brought me to a 4 move sequence that allowed me to shift 3 edge pieces in a circular motion. Using this I managed to put all edge pieces in their place and using the same 4 move sequence shifting a "set" of edge pieces another 3 times, the edge pieces would reach the starting position but instead corner pieces would change their positions. It was just a matter of another few hours to figure out exactly what corner piece moves where and in what order to use my movement sequence in order to solve the cube. A very inefficient method, but damn it feels good being able to do it alone and when you do it more than once you really know you've mastered it. My friends who knew how to solve it found it hard to believe, but knowing it was me they accepted it. 🤓 When someone tells you something is impossible dont believe him and take the challenge, if u feel like it ofc
Me, a beginner that just bought a Rubik's cube: 🤡🤡🤡
i felt his pain at the when he could have solved it
i recently started solving my cubes all cross first, its very fun
J perm: Today i am gonna solve a Rubiks cube with no help
Also J perm: But i already know how to solve it
Hey, JPerm!
If someone named b perm commented have you forgotten about me?
Wait wait wait If you go to 0:33 he says he learned to solve from his own tutorial
2:42
you can put the middle part once down and then bring the corners into its spot and bring the middle part back up
Thanks 🎉 You Helped me Solve My First Cube! 😁🥳
10 years + 7 years = 10years
Okay so hear me out.... What if we try to improve this system and call it J Perm speedcubing method? It may sound dumb but with the right scramble it could be really fast, right?
A few years ago, I actually decided to try this on my own. My thoughts were also to solve the corners first, so I did that, using the algorithm which I invented R U R' U' y L U L' U, which did a 3 cycle of corners. I solved a lot of edges, and used the algorithm M' U M U2 M' U M which is a 3-cycle to solve the remaining edges. It's unbelievable how similar our methods were!
I got my first Rubik’s cube when I was 6 years old.
I scrambled it and didn’t touch it for a long time; i thought that they were impossible.
When I was 12 years and 7 months old, I picked up that Rubik’s cube, and, knowing how to, solved it.
Never give up :)
Phenomenal! I bought a cube 2 days ago and I managed to do it in under 4 minutes today by watching your videos. I can't wait to learn your quicker techniques
2:04 why is this concept so complicated for people when i try to explain it
Haters:BuT hE iS uSiNg U aNd R mOvEs ChEaTeR
Hello, if u go to a comp, and ur really good at 3blind, is it legal to plan an entire 3-style solve in normal 3×3 in 14 seconds instead of solving with a regular method?
Plz i subcribed as soon as I found ur channel
Yes
I'm not a speed cuber but I did also learn how to do the cube from a tutorial and wish I hadn't, so I got a 4x4 and learned it with no tutorial. Not as hard, but parities were a surprise and a challenge
I got my first Rubik's cube in 1981. I "solved" on one side, on top, basically the same way, edges didn't line up.
I got the only book I could find back them, but it confused me at the time.
Over the years I'd buy a cube from time to time but didn't accomplish much more.
About '95 I bought one and at that time they came with a little booklet with simple instructions. I had a job basically just sitting in one place all day waiting until I was needed(very boring, kind of like reading my writing, lol!) and needed the diversion.
I finally did it with the simple algorithms, but still top and corners first.
I struggled to try to get faster.
A few years later we got the internet and I got a better cube. I then discovered badmephisto's videos. This was the first experience I had with f2l and 2 look solving. From there I searched for better and better ways to solve, get faster and faster.
I still only average about a 16 seconds, not bad for me... but to this day, I can't solve ui without the algorithms I've learned. I need to try it like this.
Nobody :
Ernö Rubik in 1974 :
J Perm in 2025: Attempting to solve the RUBIK'S CUBE BLINDFOLDED (With no help)
he already has practiced blindfolded and is faster than me solving it normally
@UCP54F1fJKtMADrnKROHeqUA /s
@@DeathDoesThings he means coming up with his own method like he did here.
@@schmaffew2343 👍
13:04 this happened to my mom with me doing simple moves and I needed to do the cube again lol
Wow, this is almost identical to the method I came up with back in the day. I already learned how to solve the 2x2x2 from a friend so that gave me a head start and motivated the corners first approach. Honestly, it's how I still solve sometimes, slotting in the edges is fun.
I really appreciate how you rescramble when you get a lucky skip! It's more interesting to see the full end to end solve. But the other side is, when you solve a lot of puzzles, you get a lot of rolls for skips. So it's like you earn it just through sheer volume.
So your basically teaching us how to solve a rubiks cube
Ya
This hurts!
HOW DOES HE REMEMBER ALL THE ALGOTHIRMS HE MAKES???????
I like how ur intuitive solution is much much more complicated than cfop or beginers, i think that cfop is more of a digital version made of solving not as natural as the other ones
Honestly thank you so much for this, I never thought about “move this away to slide this in and then move it back”. I just solved the white side for the first time!!
It's not a Rubik's cube,those are knockoffs🤓
Who’s here in 2024?
Dude shut up
Me
This was the most helpful tutorial on here! Masked as a “challenge”😂. Thanks.
Dude I used this video and the same mentality, along with my knowledge of how to solve a 3x3 and 5x5, in order to figure out the X2 puzzle.
Always love getting a new puzzle that's a different shape and trying my best to solve it without help.
Very inspiring vid :D
This video is really emotional for me: my grandad bought a rubiks cube in the 80s and gifted it to my mum and uncle. I was really fascinated by it and he tought me all the little tricks to solve the first face and then, of course, the first layer. Some years later I was old enough to use internet and look up for a beginner solution and I was then able to solve it in under 2 minutes. He was really proud. Many years later, I showed him my new puzzles like the megaminx and he didnt really understand them ahaha.
He passed a few months ago, in january. I am now able to solve the cube in 20 seconds and solving it always makes me think about him. He is really the reason why I love doing all those puzzles and logic games.
Thanks to everyone who read this whole comment, it means a lot to me knowing that his memory can spread and that many people can understand just by this few words how an amazing person he was. :)
ok
J perm! I hope you read this cause i've come up with many video ideas. Here are a few of them.
1. The Cart Challenge. You can do this while getting groceries. You solve a rubiks cube while moving a cart and getting your items.
2. The Bag challenge. Put your rubiks cube in a walmart/target or whatever you shop at typer of bag. Try solving the cube in it
3. The Pocket challenge. This is frickin blindfold OH this is to solve a rubiks cube in your pocket.
once I was on a psych ward and another patient brought a Megamix, they didn't remember how to solve it and I spent about 3 days learning how to solve it (i only knew the algorithms for a 3x3), it was really challenging and I had to start from scratch multiple times, but because I used my common sense to solve it I will never be able to forget the steps
2:07 FINALLY SOMEONE UNDERSTOOD HOW I WAS MACKING THE SIDES! Obviously now I learned how to save it
Solve**
You are a genious for remembering everything you do in order to undo it later. Whenever I tried commutators and making up algs, I just can't remember what I did. I have to write it down, and then I mess up reverting it, it gets so frustrating. Great job, J Perm.
Perks of learning 3-style
i solved my first ever cube cuz of this vid..thank you so much
hey J Perm , can you upload a tutorial on " skewb "advanced !!!
Jperm in thumbnail :- ah yes! I have achieved a SOLVE
In my humble opinion, the by far most intuitive way to solve the cube is to use Heisse + commutators. You don't need any ags at all and everything is fairly easy to explain (except the commutators, but I don't think you can get around those). This is almost exactly the opposite of what you do, because you end up with a 2x2x3 block plus remaining edges both permutated and oriented, then you only need corner commutators, which are (comparatively) easy.
I remember, when I was first figuring out the cube, I did learn that “real cubers” do it layer by layer, and then solved the whole thing with commutators myself. Took like three hours and an A4 scribbled over with my horrible horrible homebrew algorithms written in a hectic half-assed hand-made code, and I was so proud of by myself. I used those ridiculous algorithms for months after that.
At 15:45 I would argue that that case would be easy to figure out for a non-cuber based entirely on the fact that I got into/got out of that case (from solved) while messing around before I knew how to solve a 3x3
That being said, it was really cool seeing you develop another algorithm for yourself without taking advantage of that lucky case!
This is the only true beginner method