Forza Telemetry Guide | How to Read and Use Telemetry to Tune
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- it was surprisingly difficult to find some of the info I needed for this telemetry overview, telemetry just doesn't get discussed enough! But hopefully this video helps to change that!
Let me know if you have any info to add or discuss, I'm here to learn just as much as you guys! |
|
Watch HokiHoshi LIVE here: / hokihoshi
Check out Hoki's Second Channel HERE: / @hokiclips
💖Socials💖
Discord: / discord
Instagram: / hokihoshi
Twitter: / hoki_hoshi
Website: www.hokihoshi.com - เกม
![[UNCUT]"ตุลามรณะ"ย้อนฟังคำทำนาย หมอดูทุกสาย ดวงเมืองร้อน (หมอปลาย ฟองสนาน อ.โอเล่)I คนดังนั่งเคลียร์](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/lE5az5VvT9M/mqdefault.jpg)
I honestly doubt that the devs could provide a better explanation that you have here. Thank you again for such a straightforward and useful explanation of how stuff works in the Forza universe. I have been revisiting tunes on cars I like and tweaking them based on info in your videos and it is amazing how little things make a big difference.
I might me binge watching ur videos learning how to tune.
Lord Artoriass i might be too lol this guys a beast
Dw, we all do it upon discovery of hokihoshi haha
Im here too lol thanks hoki
I might me too
Shhhhh, I a watching ay 12am
Not enough people know about/stress the importance of this “hidden” telemetry window. Makes horizon much more similar to Motorsport and this means you can accurately fine tune on your own instead of grabbing a premade tune that wont work to full potential when it’s in the hands of a different driver. Thanks for posting this and your explanations are to the point and well delivered. Great work!
That’s generous to say not enough people know. Looking at half of the tunes that are published, I’d say 75% of people don’t know about this and you see that with any online match with racers swerving all over the road.
I am constantly recommending your videos, great work as always 👍
That's it, the man read my mind. Thank you very much, this video has an important subject. I tried to search for some information on the internet about the telemetry system of the Forza games but I didn't have success. Thanks.
Hoki, I have been watching your videos for a couple months now and I just have to say that you are doing a great job. Thanks to your videos, I have taken a great interest into the tuning side of the game and while I am not perfect at tuning, I have been able to get some great changes made to my cars. Your drift tuning guide in particular helped me make a pretty darn good drift tune for my 2000 Silvia Spec-R so, thanks for that lol. Keep up the good work bud!
Finally, a telematry vid. Been waiting for this.
Quality info.
Im kinda glad there isn't more info in game, might not have found your channel! Lol
I know you created a track for time trials, for the Hoki score reviews, quality content btw!, is there a track in game you can recommend as a good all-round test track?
The fact you can't start a race from anywhere really restricts what can be done.
Hmm, I've always like the Elmsdon on Sea sprint - but tbh I always just use my own test track nowadays!
@@HokiHoshi 👍
Omg you’re the best , I’m pretty sure I know how to use TH-cam and google but could never find a decent guide on this !
Ayy deja vu
Great content, i dont have a pc or xbox yet but your videos are a good way to prepare
thank you! was having pedal calibration issues and this helped me solve the issue. This and DIView made Forza games so much more enjoyable now that I am actually getting 100% gas and brake now!
When/if Forza 8 comes out I'm gonna use all this info pretty extensively. I realize the Horizon games have a pretty different handling feel when compared to the FM titles (I vastly prefer the FM titles in this regard and kinda just in general), but this advice will probably still be of some use in making garage race cars
Forza 4 should be using motorsport 6 physics if I'm not mistaken. It's pretty sick with a wheel
@@wavybump it’s not
Great video. Forza 2 on 360 were among the first to ever have OSD telemtry ingame i think.
Your videos are so clear and you explain everything so well. Thank you for putting this up! I am subbed
Really useful content! I feel that there are lots of things that are under used and not explained in forza when you discover the game
Spring offset is a percentage. In metric units it goes from 0 to 100 and then imperial units are just a conversion of that.
Hmm, I don't think thats the case, its inches in US and shows centemeters in metric (on my game anyway), and even then, why would max out on all cars at 40%? I think it's just showing 0-100 cm, 100cm converts to (about) 40in
@@HokiHoshi that is exactly the case, because 100 cm would be 100% and it is consistent on all cars from peel to regalia type d. the reason it maxes out at 40 inches is because imperial units in this game are simply a conversion of metric units.
When in metric you could still read it as a percentage sure and it would technically be accurate but that still means in US it's broken, I'm guessing their intention was to switch it to a percentage for this game but somehow got messed up because in past games it never showed a percentage, it was always an accurate inches or centimeters.
Damn, u solved my problem that I have been looking out for about a year now. Cheers!
Gonna start using telemetry... looks useful!!!
Thanks or the education I had no idea what telemetry was used for, but now I do.
Spring deflection must mean millimeters - 40mm is around 1.75in which is reasonably logical
‘00 Mustang Cobra SVT Review ?
I wish some of these gauges can be shown all the time via a gadget on the HUD, like the G-force meter.
That would be a sick feature!!
@Censor Tube it's helpful because you can feel many of this things in real driving but you can't in a video game.
Awesome information
This is so informative💯
I never even knew any of these things
thanks for the guide mate
Thanks so much.
Really appreciate the video man, thank you 🙏🏼
I'd love to see you go more in depth on suspension tuning, spring rate, damping, roll bars, and perhaps even more camber
Excelente video y ya puedo intentar mejor
Rear front Brake bias is also twisted
Bro that’s not an option on xbox every video has a slider i can only change what buttons go where and even if you turn anna off in the hud settings anna is still required for button mapping. i need help
Ok doesn’t work if you got custom controls on
This is probably old af bc its been in every forza game i can remember but the brake bias adjustement is backwards
There is no option to change Anna to telemetry. I need help binding a button without having required ones not binded
For camber tuning should I focus on the live camber read out in the telemetry or on the tire heat map when cornering? Tuning for 0 front camber while cornering causes the outside edge of the tire to overheat, but tuning for even tire heat across the tire causes the front camber to be in the negatives when cornering.
Base your tune on the heat readout over the camber readout imo, a little bit of negative camber under hard cornering is still totally fine, you can also play with castor to get more/less cornering camber without affecting straight line stuff
General rule of thumb is you want the inside edge of the tire to be the hottest and outside the coldest, and the middle temp should be the average of the inside outside. I.e if your inside is 190° and outside 180° your middle temp should be 185°.
I find a temp difference between the middle and the outside corner or inside corner of around 5°-10° to be optimal. If it's too high you don't have enough tire pressure, if it's too low you have too much.
And to expand on what @hokihoshi said, caster will change your dynamic camber, or the amount of camber you have over the entire range of steering angle. What you see in the garage is static camber with the front wheels perfectly straight, and as you turn the wheel further you gain more negative camber. The more caster you run the more that camber increases.
I don't have the "switch anna/telemetry" option on my menu... any help?
Same. Very annoying
Thanks for the videos! they are really helping not only tune my cars better but I'm having more fun thanks to that
I'm tuning a F-150 raptor, but it has a 10 speed gear box, how do you tune that? is the same than a 5 or 6 speed?
Izhkoort if you’re racing the f-150 especially in manual I’ve found it useful to set up 5 gears (5th goes to max speed) just to minimize shifting. The extra gears are likely due to the irl car having automatic transmission where you want more gears to get the most torque for towing at different speeds. In forza though the time between shifts is significant so if you’re going for lap times adjust it for fewer gears. The only time 10 gears would be good is in a very technical track where you need your car to stay at high rpm for a variety of corners. Hope this helps even just a bit!
Am I the only one who doesn’t have those control layout options in my advanced controls. I can fit telemetry in without it but it’s dam weird.
At 5:10 you explain how above ~110% peak is bad and that it should be counteracted by increasing grip. Let's say I'm building a S1 or S2 car, therefore running race tires and aero mods but my peak regularly goes above 110% even with aero tuning maxed out, camber tuned to ~0 degree on the outside tire and tire pressure tuned to reach as close to peak grip temps as possible. Do I have any options left to increase grip or do I at this point just have to choose between over- or understeering and deal with it?
Yeah good question! At a certain point, more with higher HP cars, there's sometimes just nothing you can do to prevent some loss of grip, so as long as the car "feels" okay, then probably don't worry about it! One thing you can do though is try to shift some more grip (not too much) to the inside, which can be done mostly by stiffening front arbs or suspension, but also in damping and front toe. But yeah over all, if you're peak is getting "too" high, its a great indicator that you might be able to get more out of the car, but there's only so much that can be done and car feel > anything else imo.
This isn't related to telemetry but I've been wondering, when is torque more important than power?
David Moore cornering/hooning/off-roading (simply). Torque is one of those factors overshadowed by hp...but it’s the same. Hp is torque times rpm mathematically so if you have high torque you’ll get higher hp at high rpm. Great for courses where you’re operating close to the red line for most of the track. Try testing a car with higher torque than hp off road or on a small track and you’ll see this in action!
During drifting, drag racing or rock climbing.
Hey! You should check out DUBS’ newest video on rivals. He raced against you in it, and he didn’t know who you were. Kinda funny to see a TH-camr v TH-camr rivals race when one has no idea.
Oh that's hilarious, I just watched the vid, thanks for commenting this, I would have had no idea!
Nice
Hi Hok, well done for your video, can we know what the small blue and yellow bar in the green circle means?
Did you know that brake bias is inverted as well?
The thing with the rpm counter makes me confused again about gear tuning
Sure, so lets say your car says it make 200hp, well what that really means is it makes 200hp at a certain rpm (usually around 5-7000) and anywhere else, it makes less. So your goal is to find the rpm range that contains the highest horsepower values, sometimes that means shifting right when you hit your peak, sometimes it means waiting until a few hundred rpm after hitting that peak, it all depends on your power/torque curve. Kind of tough to explain in text, but hopefully that atleast helps! Maybe I'll make a quick tuning vid that can explain it a bit better.
In my controller settings I can’t find switch Anna and telemetry option
RIP Anna
How do you turn on damage?
My controller settings don't look the same? I cant toggle anna/telemetry/tts
It doesn’t work for me and Im pressing down on the d pad and my bindings for Anna is set to down on d pad
Do u use the xbox controller? And are u using it wired? Im using a PS4 controller at the moment but the triggers do not have the same travel as the xbox one controllers.
Yep, I use a (wireless) xbox one controller.
HokiHoshi how do u connect it. I have a xbox one controller but im used to using the ps4 on bluetooth so i really dont want wires all over the place
Anyone know how to a suspension that keeps on bottoming out? I have watched a lot of videos on how to fix it but I'm still confused
Is it right that clutch is at 100% while standing? Equal which transmission you have enabled. With steering wheel and Controller and PC?
It goes to 0% when I start to drive, is that right?
Is this for horizon 2 and I'm wondering if it has this for the ancient 360
For the suspension, could the fully extended 40 inches refer to inches/pound?
if my outer tire reaching more than 110% what should i do then?
This game is more complex than i thought.
Thank you for this info, don’t know where else I would have figured this out, tuning was a pain for me before this, still a pain, but at least there is a process I can go by thanks to you!
haven't all the forza games head the telemetry?
Hey, I was just wondering if the devs have changed something but I can't change anna to telemetry in the advanced settings in the current series, just wondering if it's just me or it's something the devs changed
Question: what is the difference between drift suspension and race suspension?
Drift suspension has more steering angle, and changes how the physics handles your steering input by making it a bit more snappy and prone to drift. No huge difference though besides that extra angle!
@@HokiHoshi so is it viable to use it on race cars?
I wouldn't really recommend it, but hey if you prefer the way it feels over race suspension, then go for it!
As a new player, I purchased a tune and was able to keep my rocket bunny kit & wheels. Any other time I’ve purchased a tune, I can’t change wheels or anything. Is there a reason for this?
A tune always includes whatever visual mods the tuner had, because those affect performance as well (different wheel weights, aerodynamics, etc). So the 1st time you got lucky and the tuner had the same parts selected as you did. That's a downside of buying other people's tunes is thay you're stuck with their visual choices as well.
@@HokiHoshi thanks! I definitely got lucky!!! For tuning A class street cars, I’ve found a guy on TH-cam that shows the build & tune for a few cars which is nice but it’s only a few cars. They work well, but he only tuned a few different things. Do you recommend tuning every category for A class cars? I’ve tried the tuning calculators but they haven’t been very good. I’m struggling with gearing, but your video has helped. Also struggling with S1 rwd cars in cornering where they kind of spin out but I think that’s more throttle control rather than tuning.
Thanks im new
I dont have this switch option
Uhh how do you turn off telemetry
How i open the d pad from pc ?
Does anyone know what the optimal tyre temperatures are?
So, the best answer I can give you is 32. Take whatever car your using and open the telemetry. Drive on the longest straight you can until your tires reach maximum temperature. Write that number down, then find a nice open area and maintain a circle for about sixty seconds or until your tires reach maximum temperature. Now, take both of those numbers and find the average of both, then subtract from that number and adjust your front tires to be at 31.5 pounds per square inch, and 29.5 for your rear tires unless it All-Wheel-Drive, then it's 31.5 front and 31.5 front. For Rear Engine and Front Engine cars you have to configure the weight distribution. So if it's a 60% Front Engine car subtract 10% from the front and add 10% to the rear. Same with Mid Engine cars, just factor in the weight distribution %.
Also, take into consideration how weight is distributed by the suspension of the car by how quickly the tires heat up to maximum temperature. You do this by monitoring tire temperature from zero degrees to maximum temperature. If it's a car that ha horrible power distribution like EVERY Ford or Jaguar, just add a few extra pounds, like one or two so the tires are over-worked. Most Fords and Jaguars I run 36 rear pounds per square inch, just to give you an example. Anyway, you'll figure it out. If nothing else, you won't be far off if your tires are between 30 -32 pounds per square inch at maximum temperature.
how i open it(xbox one)
Could someone help me I cant get telemetry to work
how the fuck do you do it on pc I cant find one vid on pc
Man ive played forza for years and never knew or payed attention to the steering thing
I came here looking for some base values...