This used to be one of my train rides as a young schoolboy. Back then it wasn't electrified. Armed with a fiffteen cents all day excursion ticket, a pound of snags, loaf of bread, bottle of tomato sauce, water, and 12 pack of Peter Stuyvesants. I'd lunch in Royal Sutherland National Park, sharing my snags with my boisterous friends, the local kookaburras.
Well in my high school days, the Child Excursion Ticket cost 20 cents. The challenge was to ride around as much as possible before handing in half the ticket! It was the early 80s when Loftus Junction to Waterfall was electrified, but your trips to the Park should have had electric trains, but maybe sometimes a rail motor was used.
I had a taken on the last day in early 1992 but just now accidentally deleted it completely. I will have to upload it again. This is my other video taken when the red sets were in daily use. Single Deck Electric Trains Sydney Part 1 th-cam.com/video/gyKaEJRqocI/w-d-xo.html
I have uploaded the lost Last Day video which has been slightly modified as well. Single Deck Electric Trains Sydney Part 2 Last Day (Re-posting) th-cam.com/video/E4wI62NWEAg/w-d-xo.html
F1 does normally run several times each year, and you should check the HET facebook page. Or better still, join HET. However F1 is overdue for an overhaul but it is hoped that similar W3 will soon take over then assist F1 when it is rejuvenated.
A nice vid! Thanks for it. Question: that 200A current we saw under heavy acceleration… is that the train’s total load, or just the pantograph in that car? Quite some current! What voltage do Sydney trains run on?
Each motor car accelerate between 170A to 250A, when the driver's controller is in the series notch, all traction motor circuits are connected in series, with 170-250A being the total car current. When the train gets to speed and the driver's controller is in the parallel notch, the traction circuit is split, the first motor circuit pair is connected in parallel with the other, doubling the total car current to 500A, the ammeter only measures half of the traction circuit so will always measure between 170A to 250A. 1500vDC is the nominal operating voltage, current surges can sometimes reach 300A, equating to 600A in parallel.
That is the current drawn from just that car which has four 200 HP motors. The two other power cars have two motors of 360 HP. Line voltage in Sydney and Melbourne is 1500 v DC
@@Ali6359. Thanks for posting that information, Ali. The person who asked is a long time friend of mine and he found the information rather interesting. I also learned something - I did not know the ammeter only measured one motor (or pair) in Parallel. So the current drawn by the other pair is just presumed.
I grew up in Sutho shire great place to live in the 80s too many arrogant blow ins there now but i remember getting a rattler over the Como bridge to Oatley with the doors open fun times.
I guess you are referring to the old Como bridge which remains in place beside the current bridge. Opening and closing of the doors was purely the choice of the passengers. And if it wasn’t wet or particularly cold, they were often simply left open. We weren’t treated like little children in those days.
Thanks for the great ride. Might look at that other video you have included.
This used to be one of my train rides as a young schoolboy. Back then it wasn't electrified. Armed with a fiffteen cents all day excursion ticket, a pound of snags, loaf of bread, bottle of tomato sauce, water, and 12 pack of Peter Stuyvesants. I'd lunch in Royal Sutherland National Park, sharing my snags with my boisterous friends, the local kookaburras.
Well in my high school days, the Child Excursion Ticket cost 20 cents. The challenge was to ride around as much as possible before handing in half the ticket! It was the early 80s when Loftus Junction to Waterfall was electrified, but your trips to the Park should have had electric trains, but maybe sometimes a rail motor was used.
@@tressteleg1 1971.
@@peregrinemccauley5010 1971 for what?
Interesting ride. These old cars really move quickly!!.
Thanks tressteleg1💚👌👍
Limited to 70km/h that day for mechanical reasons. Work to be done.
And there’s me at the end of the video in the white shirt. Getting spooked by the honking Oscar.
Used to rode in these back in the year when they were withdrawn from service almost 30 years ago
I had a taken on the last day in early 1992 but just now accidentally deleted it completely. I will have to upload it again. This is my other video taken when the red sets were in daily use.
Single Deck Electric Trains Sydney Part 1
th-cam.com/video/gyKaEJRqocI/w-d-xo.html
I have uploaded the lost Last Day video which has been slightly modified as well.
Single Deck Electric Trains Sydney Part 2 Last Day (Re-posting)
th-cam.com/video/E4wI62NWEAg/w-d-xo.html
They should do that more often
F1 does normally run several times each year, and you should check the HET facebook page. Or better still, join HET. However F1 is overdue for an overhaul but it is hoped that similar W3 will soon take over then assist F1 when it is rejuvenated.
A nice vid! Thanks for it. Question: that 200A current we saw under heavy acceleration… is that the train’s total load, or just the pantograph in that car? Quite some current! What voltage do Sydney trains run on?
1,500VDC is my understanding.
Each motor car accelerate between 170A to 250A, when the driver's controller is in the series notch, all traction motor circuits are connected in series, with 170-250A being the total car current. When the train gets to speed and the driver's controller is in the parallel notch, the traction circuit is split, the first motor circuit pair is connected in parallel with the other, doubling the total car current to 500A, the ammeter only measures half of the traction circuit so will always measure between 170A to 250A. 1500vDC is the nominal operating voltage, current surges can sometimes reach 300A, equating to 600A in parallel.
That is the current drawn from just that car which has four 200 HP motors. The two other power cars have two motors of 360 HP. Line voltage in Sydney and Melbourne is 1500 v DC
@@Ali6359. Thanks for posting that information, Ali. The person who asked is a long time friend of mine and he found the information rather interesting. I also learned something - I did not know the ammeter only measured one motor (or pair) in Parallel. So the current drawn by the other pair is just presumed.
I grew up in Sutho shire great place to live in the 80s too many arrogant blow ins there now but i remember getting a rattler over the Como bridge to Oatley with the doors open fun times.
I guess you are referring to the old Como bridge which remains in place beside the current bridge. Opening and closing of the doors was purely the choice of the passengers. And if it wasn’t wet or particularly cold, they were often simply left open. We weren’t treated like little children in those days.