For everyone saying for Fox to edgeguard, HE CANT, if he misses hes forced to use his exploitable ass recovery, and mk leo can mix recovery with side B and up B aimed to the left or right. Plus ledge trapping is much btr. Fox is bad off stage, so chill.
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@360 Overdrive ya lol you right. He needs different aerials and recovery. If his aerial game was decent and his recovery was not so easy to gimp, hed be good.
360 Overdrive Yh little macs principle of ground game over everything else does not even translate properly as nearly every disadvantage state puts him in the air on top of all the great aerial moves and increased aggression towards edge guarding little mac while very dangerous on the stage still doesn’t bring the reward needed.
The only thing I can see them doing with wolf is nerfing the gun's damage from 6-10 down to 4-8. If they do anything else then the character's just bad
Man Larry was screwing himself. Didn’t try to edgegaurd Leo once, kept going for the two frame. Fox just can’t kill as easily or safely as wolf, he would just hope for an up smash read or up tilt in to back air or an up air. Really would’ve liked to see a shine off stage or at least a neutral air. Leo got back on the ledge free every time.
I mean edgeduarding wolf is high risk high reward. You either get a free stock or you get side B'd to your death. If you succesfully edgeduard you have a stock lead. If you fuck up you're at a -1. On top of that Wolf Up B and Side B have a lot of priority giving it the ability to beat out fox nair. I guess larry just didn't want to risk it against a player like Mkleo who would definitely capitalize.
That's true but risks have to be taken to really become a good player in any fighting game, Also it not that hard to know which recovery he's going to do , cause when he's below the stage he has to use the up b , so that's when you would try a back air
@@lokouba that has nothing to do with disjoints fox couldve easily dropkicked him during his startup, trust me I edgeguard wolf to death cause its not really hard to be honest
Pisskopf Larry Wolf up b is disjointed, the best thing you can get with nair is a trade which isnt a good trade and not worth the risk. You could just die or get stagespiked which is untechable pretty early because of the high knockback of wolf up b. If you miss your nair you are in a terrible spot in which you should die against a character with a good spike if the opponent is competent. Trying to hit the side b is also not worth the risk considering the extremely strong spike hitbox. Hitting a bair on this is very difficult and if you miss you have to jump up b in most cases which should be a free edgeguard for your opponent.
Smash is the best Starfox game
more likes here please thanks
It we really is.
Dont like the actual games love the charecters though.
Not slippy though
rospoho not until we get slippy
@@lay-lowandsmash1519 yeah me too
360 Overdrive omg how stupid can you be??? It’s obviously Hello Kitty Island Adventure
For everyone saying for Fox to edgeguard, HE CANT, if he misses hes forced to use his exploitable ass recovery, and mk leo can mix recovery with side B and up B aimed to the left or right. Plus ledge trapping is much btr. Fox is bad off stage, so chill.
This is so accurate
Thanks
Falco in the back regretting not having his old shine
Not having his old shine is at the very bottom of reasons he's not as good as these 2 in this game.
Nah more like he's regretting not having his old nair
@@k.u.5798 i think he's better than these two. just hasn't been labbed yet.
I play falco and beat wolves online.
Eddie K idk about that one lol
Commentary was like we got the world champ mk Leo and then we got, pause,,,,,, this nigga
Goku vs Vegeta
6:36 he should've upsmashed there
2gg what is this audio quality
Gimr wouldn't allow this
These maggots wouldn't survive at bootcamp.
The commentary in this match is spectacular 👌🏻
Whoa, a female commentator that doesn't suck. And more surprising, she's fun to listen to and informative. 10/10
What a great set
Damn this MU hype
I don't see a lot of players going far from the stage to hit the opponent more waiting for the opponent to get back can someone explain me why?
Can’t let you do that Star Fox
Knox star fox is my team not my name!
"Andross has ordered us to take you down."
"Peppy! Long time no see !"
Yo, Larry lookin' clean with the new hair cut.
Does leo have a fox problem? Best player in the world but Ive see him having issues against light too...
Dang this was a good fight to watch!
commenters say Larry Lurr "getting up there in age"
looks at Wiki "age 28"
...what?
MKleo is only 18 so he might just mean compared to Leo he’s getting up there
Commentators are on mk Leo's nuts.
I like all the players but chill.
It makes them look bad
E-sports athletes are usually retired by age 28. Don't know if the smash scene is any different, but it is a short lived career.
@@magnushaveland2526 You're right, and smash is no different. Even Mango complains about his age and how his reaction times are getting worse
@@sulIy lol just because some morons believe that, it will be so. The rest of us just keep winning.
Damn mkleo is so clutchhhh, always wins the crazy close games
felt like a grand final dang...
“You’re good but I’m better”
Where my fox mains at?
#Teamstarfox
Are we finally going back to Fox (and echo) meta? It was good having fun while it lasted
Hopefully fox gets a melee skin and sound pack
Wolf looks much more aggressive and cooler than the hero again.
Melee fox would be a cool alt.
Lay-Low and SMASH my dude needs his metal legs back.
Do pros change their controls depending on the characters?
Yes
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i like this rivalry mu
Playtime's over Star Fox
Is his wolf stronger than zackray's one?
I'm not sure but it would be cool to see them vs eachother
I know fox can’t really edge guard wolf but couldn’t he go for more 2 frame traps? What kinda options does fox have for that?
Mkleo really out here playing my main and I love it. Just hope he doesn’t get my guy nerfed lol
best player in japan use Wolf soo nerf is in coming hahaha
They need to start buffing characters not nerfing them. Buff my man Little Mac please Sakurai
@360 Overdrive ya lol you right. He needs different aerials and recovery. If his aerial game was decent and his recovery was not so easy to gimp, hed be good.
360 Overdrive Yh little macs principle of ground game over everything else does not even translate properly as nearly every disadvantage state puts him in the air on top of all the great aerial moves and increased aggression towards edge guarding little mac while very dangerous on the stage still doesn’t bring the reward needed.
The only thing I can see them doing with wolf is nerfing the gun's damage from 6-10 down to 4-8. If they do anything else then the character's just bad
What a set damn!
Finally a game against a big player which isn’t 5 mins long and isn’t mkleo destroying
Dark Might yeahhh trust me I’ve never seen elegant get destroyed so bad, even fatality got wrecked by MKLEO he’s just too nutty
Dark Might yeahhh true they both need to pick up top tiers
Kastrottvbtw Barkhadle no point In riding top tiers so early in the game give the meta time to develop the list will be looking very different.
Fatality Will master the Falcon.
she said “yikes” twice lol
Battle of the furrys
Watching this made me almost sweat lol
really was even
Fox is not easy. respect
Livin’ like Larry
Larry got a haircut :o
he wanna play wolf so his real main ike wont get nerfed lmao
mars and Wolf ends up getting nerfed instead lol
Smash 4 foxes.
You will need to be more aggressive offstage in this game.
RIP ears
Man Larry was screwing himself. Didn’t try to edgegaurd Leo once, kept going for the two frame. Fox just can’t kill as easily or safely as wolf, he would just hope for an up smash read or up tilt in to back air or an up air. Really would’ve liked to see a shine off stage or at least a neutral air. Leo got back on the ledge free every time.
KHTC Jink If he messed up then he would be dead
@@jeako777 pretty much. Either of wolf's recovery moves is lethal
I don’t usually mute the commentary but I did for this one
fkn ledgeguard larry
Wolf's up b would have beaten Fox's nair
I mean edgeduarding wolf is high risk high reward. You either get a free stock or you get side B'd to your death. If you succesfully edgeduard you have a stock lead. If you fuck up you're at a -1. On top of that Wolf Up B and Side B have a lot of priority giving it the ability to beat out fox nair. I guess larry just didn't want to risk it against a player like Mkleo who would definitely capitalize.
he couldve shine it during start up
How realistic is that though?
@@church4516 pretty realistic shine comes out frame 3 and is invincible frame 2-3 so it'll beat upb
Leo orgullo mexicano
Aguante Leo
This audio quality......
Almost
Fox was so close , I lost because he's not edge guarding or punishing the recovery
Otis Barrett Going offstage for an edgeguard is the worst thing you can do especially against wolf with his up b hitbox and his spikes
That's true but risks have to be taken to really become a good player in any fighting game,
Also it not that hard to know which recovery he's going to do , cause when he's below the stage he has to use the up b , so that's when you would try a back air
that up b has a disjoint and Fox has none with his aerials, Fox just cant edge guard Wolf like that.
@@lokouba that has nothing to do with disjoints fox couldve easily dropkicked him during his startup, trust me I edgeguard wolf to death cause its not really hard to be honest
Pretty sure fox bair would lose or at the very least trade with wolf upb
Hype set, Larry is a beast
Wolf's broken as fuck
Fuck Smush is so slow
Wtf!!! Ggs
FINALLY someone beats Leo! I knew you could, Larry!
Hater gonna hate, Go leo
Daaaamn that was so close i feel bad for larry
nerf dash attacks plzzzz
The announcers are annoying af
Please stop calling them "Spacies"
They... Are.. Spacies?
Julien Hill do you play smash?
Imagine going offstage to prevent your opponent from easily making it back with their awful recovery... Oh wait, thats called edge guarding larry
Trying to go offstage against wolf is close to suicide
@@jankowelt2790 no... no its not
Pisskopf Larry Wolf up b is disjointed, the best thing you can get with nair is a trade which isnt a good trade and not worth the risk. You could just die or get stagespiked which is untechable pretty early because of the high knockback of wolf up b. If you miss your nair you are in a terrible spot in which you should die against a character with a good spike if the opponent is competent. Trying to hit the side b is also not worth the risk considering the extremely strong spike hitbox. Hitting a bair on this is very difficult and if you miss you have to jump up b in most cases which should be a free edgeguard for your opponent.
Watch Void vs Zackray, I think Void gimped Zackray once in the entire set with one of the characters with the best edgeguarding in the game.
@@jankowelt2790 yeah trade isnt good but you should interrupt it which fox is very good at
one of the best sets of the year. I feel like if Larry would just go off stage and nair to stop the recovery he would've won
Get off the ledge larry! We wanna see some of those famous footstool drag downs!
They don't work anymore
@@tobi1557 they do you can still drag down just not footstool