IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION: If you're an existing subscriber affected by this pricing change, the new rates (if applicable) will apply when your plan renews - not necessarily on January 15th. Adobe will also email you about these changes one month before your renewal date.
Screw Adobe Photoshop Lightroom. I use Corel PaintShop Pro Extreme. Bought it for 99. DOES ALL Adobe photoshop does and more. Dont have to pay a yearly plan, cloud storage or all the other BS Adobe does.
i bought on1 photo raw to replace lightroom but i found copy and pasting setting across multiple images was painfully slow and found i had to stay with lightroom until things improve with on1.
Still for the price, you get a good software. I only pay for Spotify (Duo) and Adobe subscription (Photography 20GB) subscriptions. It costs me very little in compare to other expenses.
Adobe is increasing the prices, and you say they are cool because they will honor a contract they are required to fulfill by law? Of course, if I get an annual subscription and pay they can't change it before the price increase they can't change it. It was a tragedy that Apple dropped Aperture because it kept Adobe decent.
I understand what you're saying, but I know many photographers who use Lightroom Classic and Photoshop that will be very glad they can continue to pay the same price they've been paying for years for the "Photography (20GB)" plan. And no, I don't think Adobe needed to continue offering that price after people's yearly commitment ended and it was time for a renewal.
It's time to sharpen my Affinity skills. If Adobe keeps this up, Adobe will not be needed. IMO this is a horrible business model and confusing with all the options/changes and charges without any consideration for the users.
Thanks adobe, I just canceled my subscription. You don't want to pay the canceling fee. Just upgrade to another product and cancel it immediately. You even get money back :)
They shouldn’t be upping their prices but lowering. Giving the fact that live is getting more expensive overall, Adobe is now just emphasising the costs they charge and creates an incentive for people to start shopping around.
I think you're confused about the Lightroom 1TB bundle. I believe it used to include Lightroom Classic, but no longer does so if you need any of Lightroom Classic's additional functionality such as the print module you need the photography bundle. Previously the Lightroom bundle did include Lightroom and Lightroom Classic, but now it doesn't so even if you don't need photoshop if you need Lightroom Classic you're forced to shell out the extra money. So that's another rate increase just in a different way.
That’s not right. Either you got the Photography 20GB bundle with Lightroom, Lightroom Classic and Photoshop, or you got the Lightroom 1TB bundle with just Lightroom. I know this because thus far I’ve paid for both Lightroom 1TB and the Photography 20GB bundle separately. I’m glad they now added Classic to the 1TB plan, but it won’t matter for me until 2026 because I stacked discounted Black Friday codes to get 50% off for the next two years already.
Thanks Forest! I really appreciate this information. I haven’t received anything from Adobe about these upcoming changes. This video definitely helped me decide what I’ll do.
Same old Adobe 💩 They've lost market share to Davinci Resolve now let's see what Apple comes up with their newly acquired Photoshop competitor. Meanwhile there's Luminar for a one time payment.
I live in New Zealand, only use Photoshop and I have the "Photography 20GB" plan. I had a price increase this month, December 2024, from just under NZ$15.00 to about NZ$19.30. Will I be getting another price increase in January?
Of course its increasing in price with no value added Have to cloud storage..no choice They have 100% access to your photos,you have no choice when they use and how Good luck
Thank you! This was very informative and much easier to understand than anything from Adobe. With over 14 years of images and being a high volume shooter, the 1TB plan is nowhere near enough to cover a years worth of photos and resoective edits. I'll be sticking with the LrC and Ps plan and keep working on my local drives. I also have a NAS, so if I absolutely need something, I can access my images without the additional cloud storage fees.
You're welcome! That sounds like a great plan. NAS devices are fantastic for local storage - I use mine for all my video content, and it makes life so much easier.
Sorry, "penalizing" is incorrect, this is how capitalism works. A company raises prices as the economic environment changes e.g. inflation. Sounds like this is the first price change in 10 years, Do you really think the boardroom sat around and discussed how to punish those who stopped using their service? Really? Looks like more of a business decision than some vindictive plot. Bottom line, you don't like Adobe, don't use their service. I do appreciate you voicing your views. I'm just expressing mine too. Have a great day.
@@thomasd6592 Well now, I hadn't thought of that, but I bet they did sit around the boardroom and decide to raise the rates, with an evil glint in their eye. lol Especially after people made fun of their lame explanations. They probably know those still with them aren't going anywhere, so why not? Sure, they can do what they want. But a 50% increase all at once is a bit steep, considering they haven't raised the price in 10 years. Maybe they should've done a .50 cent increase every year.
I would think that someone who is not currently using an Adobe Photo Plan, probably is not planning to ever sign up. There are now other photo processing programs that are as good as or better.
@ no. Which programs are better to manage a vast archive and edit/process the photos? Even Lightroom cloud does not come close the Lightroom Classic. There are many Photoshop alternatives. No real good alternatives for Lrc. Maybe Capture One is the only one.
@@stefpix Depending on what I am doing. I use an older Capture One version for tethering/organising studio shoots. I use darktable for editing. It can handle very large libraries and the modules/workflow makes sense to me (after a steep learning curve). Rarely, for anything requiring layers/Ai I use Affinity/Luminar (both one-off purchases)
Thanks for the info! I did not receive any notice from Adobe about these upcoming changes. I looked and saw I was only using 1.5GB of cloud storage. I just switched to the annual 20GB photo plan. Saved myself $120/yr.
Ok, so in Finland the price ent from 12,54 to 18,99 per month and if you try to switch to annual it says "We’re unable to continue with this plan. Select another plan or if you think you’re seeing this message in error, please contact Customer Support."...
5:17 Side question: what is the long term plan for storage and organization for the cloud plan? I’m a LR classic user since LR 1.0 and use my OS to organize my photos, and i prefer that. However my cousin got into LR photography thru the iPad cloud app and she has hit a long term storage problem. My question is, what is the solution to a long term LR cloud storage if it seems to put all of your data in a cloud lump. Meanwhile my LR classic libraries are organized per event, per year, with a LR catalog for each event (think capture one sessions). That is the only way I see to organize a library with backups instead of having all of your eggs Ina cloud basket. Thank you!😊
I'm actually really happy they are adding LRC to the lightroom 1 TB plan! I mostly use LR, but occasionally want to use extensions in LRC, but it has not been worth the extra cost to me to get the photography 1 TB plan. A dollar extra isn't terrible.
Great question! If you want Lightroom Classic and Photoshop (and don't need cloud storage), I would downgrade/subscribe to the "Photography 20GB" plan before January 15th.
I've been wanting to switch, but the cost of Capture One is a little too high for me for their monthly plan. And while I appreciate an option to buy the program outright. I dislike how it doesn't allow for upgrades in the future.
Capture One is an excellent program for many photographers! I personally use it for tethering. For my normal workflow however, Lightroom fits my needs much better.
@@forestchaput yeah but they are not stealing my images to train AI and charge me more....Adobe lost over 1 millions subscribers...and capture one is not only for tethering, don't diminish the program...and you don't need a subscription to have it, and in Europe we don't have the 9.99 option, only 20 euros one with 1tb
You and me both. I prefer how it handles Sony raw colors than LR. I'm glad that Adobe doesn't have license to use "my" cloud files. The program is very powerful; then again so is it's overreach.
I’m not trying to diminish C1Pro at all. We taught both C1Pro and Lightroom at our school. I’m just making the point that both programs have their strengths and weaknesses and for me, Lightroom is better for my workflow.
So is the 20GB photography plan discontinued?? I Have existing subscription of 20GB annual photography plan paid monthly but right now I have a free trial and billing will start JAN 15 2025 so will my plan be same price??
You are the freaking man. Just saw this video and I changed from the monthly 9.99 to whole lump sum yearly. Yeah, it sucks taking the hit al at once, but it's better to pay the $130 with tax at once rather than almost $200 over a yr period.
How were you able to do it? I tried the same, and, when I clicked on the "manage plan" button, the only option I was given was to cancel outright; there was no option offered to change from monthly to yearly.
@ravenfallsphotography6254 Should be there. I went to manage subscription". The should be options to increase, change plan, or choose the 9.99 billed yearly. Should come out around $130 depending on tax.
frankly I was ok with the 10 USD for the photography plan but 5 USD increase is a bit abusive. I will switch plan and cancel to avoid the penalty fee and switch to affinity as a photoshop replacement. Lightroom is garbage compared to capture one .
Hey Forest, thanks for making the video. Really clear overview. One comment around the January 15th date. For people who have a plan that is impacted by the plan / pricing changes, it takes effect the next time they are up for renewal (not necessarily on January 15th). January 15th is the first date where people are up for renewal with the changes (hence us sharing information online now a month before that). But again, for existing members on plans which are changing, they keep their current pricing until they are up for their next renewal. For example, if you signed up in June 2024 for a plan that is changing, you keep your current price until your next renewal on June 2025. Note, if you currently don’t have a photography plan and want to get the 20gb photography plan, you have to do that before January 15th (after that it won’t be available to new users). (and you can keep it until you cancel). (Just wanted to be clear for anyone confused about what is happening on the 15th) (I work for Adobe)
Clearly and that means Adobe is not doing anything nice for anybody. If someone pays the Anual subscription before Jan 15 Adobe better keep the price of face the regulators. Does Chaput work for Adobe that is presenting Adobe's legal obligation as something nice they are doing for the people?
My account is the Lightroom 10TB plan which includes Photoshop (inc Classic for both), I pay £8.04 per month on an Annual Plan basis, I have been with Adobe for 14 years, do you know what the changes would be ?
For the LIghtroom only plan, you might as well just pay a few bucks for (or prepay) and get PS with the Photography plan now if you can. Even if you don't use it, it's still a good deal, although you do have less storage. But I'll just switch to pay my Photography 20GB plan annually to lock in the price (for $120 it's hard to beat to get LR, LRC and PS plus 20GB of storage, which I use very little of myself). Personally I would like to see Adobe also offer an option to add an extra seat to your subscription (since you can only use the apps on two computers at a time), but for those who might have a tablet, laptop and desktop, or a desktop at work and a laptop and tablet at home, then for maybe another $4 or $5 per month they can add that third device to their plan, so pay $14.99 for example for the 20GB Photography plan for 3 devices.
I'm never quite sure what happens if I decide to not renew my subscription. I know that my original images are still available and unaltered. But what about the many thousands of edits that remain in my catalog? Will they still be accessible even if no longer editable and exportable? If all we loose by not continuing with our subscription will be the lack of continued updates for our LR/PS apps, then I'm just about ready to say "Ta-Ta" to Adobe and fire up my DxO PL.
Interesting, I rarely use Photoshop so may downgrade to the Lightroom 1TB plan. However my storage is quickly filling. Do you know how I would upgrade to 2TB?
Yep! Open the Creative Cloud application, click on the cloud icon in the upper-right, and click the "Upgrade" button. Also, you could consider using the "Archive to Local Storage" option to pull some of your data off of the cloud and just store it locally. Just make sure you have a good backup system in place for that data.
I'm on the Lightroom classic / photoshop $9.99 plan. What do I need to do to lock in that same price yearly? Where do I go? I'm not seeing any options when I sign in to my account telling me I need to change to a yearly plan.
@@forestchaput I tried that and there was no option to switch to yearly. So I opened up a chat with adobe and they told me that I could keep paying monthly and my price would be locked in. According to them, they are NOT making people pay yearly? Now I'm confused? I'd post the conversation but can't do that in this format. I offered to pay yearly, but they told me that my $9.99 a month plan will not change whether I pay yearly or monthly.
Thanks for the info. I just changed from monthly $9.99 20gb plan to annual $119.88. Adobe website informed me I could save 33% by switching and not get the price increase. 👍 plus I get a $7.41 refund for this month. I have until December 29th to cancel.
The spinning ball of death, three hours of Adobe remotely attempting to fix, then Apple trying for two hours was the nail in the coffin for LRC. I had to pay $70 to cancel my subscription but I’ll stick with Luminar, and only use LR Mobile from now on
Apple sees the opportunity of the mess that is Adobe and looks to be moving back into the photography editing world. Pixelmator is a great but simple app and perhaps Apple could also buy Adobe, strip it of all its mess, confusion and bad practices to give us a new state of the art, Aperture, the app so many of us miss.
So yes, you will want to change your payment option from "billed monthly" to "billed annually" to lock in the $9.99/month pricing. You can make that change when your plan is up for renewal, or right now if you want to.
Oh, these price increases for the 20gb photography plan represent a nearly 50% increase in pricing. I am basing this on the Australian dollar (AUD) from USD exchange rate. 3 months of that is a whole year's worth of Photomator.
I made my “informed decision” years ago when I purchased Nik photo editing software. I now utilize DxO who market the old Nik software in addition to their own excellent photo editing programs… Adobes a joke. I don’t want to pay for something I don’t necessarily use every month.
I used to be an annual payment subscriber, then somewhere along the line Adobe switched me to monthly payments. Can I change it back to an annual payment at this point? They sure know how to get you, but none of the other software packages that I am aware of have a map module, and geotagging photos is an important part of my workflow. Thanks so much Forest for this information!
I think Im the last one ....also when you feel the cloud...images can still be edited JUST not saved...BUT you can still access them...they don't disappear I reached this point 👉 and went ok 👍
I've been on the $9.99/mo plan since it was first brought out and the entire time it has been $9.99/mo. I thinjk it's reasonable to increase prices after such time, however if the trend starts to be yearly increase then I'm going to have to force myself to at least consider other options. I would love if they had a creators plan that included LRC, PS and Pr for $19.99/mo, I don't need cloud storage either.
so new customers are screwed after jan 15th if they want the industry standard lightroom classic and photoshop. Also anyone that cancels their plan because of adobes bad terms and conditions and re-signs up are also screwed. Why didnt you mention this? seems shady
So, I will now go from €12.19 to €17.99 ($9.99-$14.99 US). I’ll think about it a bit, but I’ll probably cancel it. I already hate paying for Lightroom and never using it. I just want Photoshop, but they don’t want to offer it at a reasonable standalone price for solo PS (again)
Before taking up the hobby of photography, I used Photoshop and Illustrator in concert with Indesign and FrameMaker when I worked as a documentation writer and desktop publisher. In that situation, I had no need for Lightroom. It's too bad that Adobe doesn't allow customers to choose individual programs according to their specific needs.
well, i've been debating cancelling my LR PS plan as i just can't justify it for how much i use it now that i use capture one mostly. I really need photoshop now and then, but now a price increase? no thanks. i'll make gimp or something else work. they should drop the price not increase it.
The only problem is that the cloud version of LR is completely useless, you have to have your entire catalogue of images in Adobe cloud, local storage isn’t part of the catalogue. I have 10TB of photos split across 3 catalogues so it’s classic for me. I tried using LR cloud for one of my catalogues but it was unusable, it took several hours to sync a couple of hundred images
Oh yes, Lightroom vs. Lightroom Classic completely depends on the photographer. I was a die-hard Classic user, but once I stopped shooting as much high-volume work and got faster internet, I've really started to like the Lightroom workflow.
Very clear explanation! (as always...) 🤔 everyone is jumping to the cloud... for some reason I thought that my $9,99 a month plan, (Photography one...), had the cloud included... (unless I am confuse and I am using the Lr app on my Iphone, which might be another thing...). Do you think having the cloud is worth it...? Do I have all the same features than LRC... what is cool is that I can use all my devices, but 1TB won't last long, & then ADOBE will charge way extra for space...) 😑 what to do???? 😩
You do not have all the features of the Classic, that is what stopping me from using iPad as a editing device. Its just a cool gimmick for youtubers to drink coffee in starbucks with that ipad.
If you are a Photography Plan monthly user at $9.98 how do you change over to paying $119.98 for the year? Its worth noting here that as a UK Adobe Photography Plan User I should have been charged £7.92 British Pounds for all these years that Adobe have been ripping me off at £9.99 British pounds, (based on todays exchange rate!). Based on todays exchange rate the annual fee in the UK would then be £95.08 British pounds, not £119.98, an increase of around 26% for British customers. Its very odd that Adobe just charge the same flat rate whether you are a US or UK customer, but thats another story I suppose! I realise Adobe havent changed their prices in 10 years but this nevertheless leaves a bit of a sour taste in the mouth for the way theyre doing this, why for instance kill of people wanting to get onto the 20GB Photography Plan after January 15th. I suspect that this may signal the start of the end of my using Adobes products into the future,
I believe that if you want to switch from a monthly payment to an annual payment for the Photography Plan, Adobe allows you to make that change through your Adobe Account settings in the "Manage Plan" section.
100% agree with the exchange rate rip-off think how much that has swelled the coffers over the years, it’s fairly standard business practice for arrogant US tech firms though (think Apple)
UK here I use RAW and PS it costs £9.98pence per month. in you money that's $12.88c, so they all ready charge us over the top. As for the cloud I don't use it and don't want it. If they plan on putting the prices up here I think it's time to leave.
@@MarkHolloway I saw it too, so I clicked on Prepaid for a year plan with 20 GB data and I saw message saying like : Wrong page for your country. And it redirect me to the site where I saw $49.99 for Lightroom ...
How can they justify the price increase. With all the competition coming out and whats out there now, PS is cutting their nose to spite their face. They act like they have a monopoly but thats no longer the case. Price increases have gotten out of control, and they need to justify why...and you will find its unjustified. Abstinence from use will apply the pressure needed to reverse a bad plan.
CORRECTION: There's no "go-to" recommendation with Adobe. The only recommendation is to get used to the other amazing software out there and quit Adobe.
If they just let people pick and choose what apps they wanted that would be nice. I want Photoshop, Lightroom and Illustrator, that's it. No cloud storage. $4.99 a month per app, how about that Adobe? I don't need everything you make for 60. How about just what I really need for 15? Sorry, just shouting at a wall..,
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IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION: If you're an existing subscriber affected by this pricing change, the new rates (if applicable) will apply when your plan renews - not necessarily on January 15th. Adobe will also email you about these changes one month before your renewal date.
Screw Adobe Photoshop Lightroom. I use Corel PaintShop Pro Extreme. Bought it for 99. DOES ALL Adobe photoshop does and more.
Dont have to pay a yearly plan, cloud storage or all the other BS Adobe does.
The best plan is to dump Adobe.
I hope to god that affinity releases an adobe lightroom clone so that I can kick adobe to the curb.
i bought on1 photo raw to replace lightroom but i found copy and pasting setting across multiple images was painfully slow and found i had to stay with lightroom until things improve with on1.
YES 🙌🏻💪🏻👍🏻. I hope so also.
I agree
DXO photolab is quite good as a Lightroom alternative
That would be amazing.
With all the bad press Adobe has gotten lately, raising prices will really help with their image.
They must exploite their customers while they still can.
Maybe they will be able to afford to pay off some TH-camrs with these new rates.
Still for the price, you get a good software. I only pay for Spotify (Duo) and Adobe subscription (Photography 20GB) subscriptions. It costs me very little in compare to other expenses.
I switched to DxO Photolab 8 and actually dont want to pay Adobe a dime any longer.
Smart man!
Adobe is increasing the prices, and you say they are cool because they will honor a contract they are required to fulfill by law? Of course, if I get an annual subscription and pay they can't change it before the price increase they can't change it. It was a tragedy that Apple dropped Aperture because it kept Adobe decent.
I understand what you're saying, but I know many photographers who use Lightroom Classic and Photoshop that will be very glad they can continue to pay the same price they've been paying for years for the "Photography (20GB)" plan. And no, I don't think Adobe needed to continue offering that price after people's yearly commitment ended and it was time for a renewal.
Apple just bought photomator and pixelmator pro so they have plans to make a comeback.
It's time to sharpen my Affinity skills. If Adobe keeps this up, Adobe will not be needed. IMO this is a horrible business model and confusing with all the options/changes and charges without any consideration for the users.
I paid about $35 for Affinity a few months ago when they had a sale. That’s looking like a better and better deal every day.
Thanks adobe, I just canceled my subscription.
You don't want to pay the canceling fee. Just upgrade to another product and cancel it immediately. You even get money back :)
They shouldn’t be upping their prices but lowering. Giving the fact that live is getting more expensive overall, Adobe is now just emphasising the costs they charge and creates an incentive for people to start shopping around.
I suspect the photography 20GB plan goes away completely in 2026. So the price might be locked for a year, but don't count on it after that.
I think you're confused about the Lightroom 1TB bundle. I believe it used to include Lightroom Classic, but no longer does so if you need any of Lightroom Classic's additional functionality such as the print module you need the photography bundle. Previously the Lightroom bundle did include Lightroom and Lightroom Classic, but now it doesn't so even if you don't need photoshop if you need Lightroom Classic you're forced to shell out the extra money. So that's another rate increase just in a different way.
That’s not right. Either you got the Photography 20GB bundle with Lightroom, Lightroom Classic and Photoshop, or you got the Lightroom 1TB bundle with just Lightroom. I know this because thus far I’ve paid for both Lightroom 1TB and the Photography 20GB bundle separately.
I’m glad they now added Classic to the 1TB plan, but it won’t matter for me until 2026 because I stacked discounted Black Friday codes to get 50% off for the next two years already.
it would nice if Adobe actually informed their customers that rates were increasing, at least Dick Turpin wore a mask
Stuart, everyone whose rates are changing will get an email a month before their next renewal date (since that is when it takes affect).
Thanks Forest! I really appreciate this information. I haven’t received anything from Adobe about these upcoming changes. This video definitely helped me decide what I’ll do.
You’re welcome, Don! I’m happy to help. Feel free to email me if you have any other questions. 🙂
Same old Adobe 💩 They've lost market share to Davinci Resolve now let's see what Apple comes up with their newly acquired Photoshop competitor. Meanwhile there's Luminar for a one time payment.
Are prices going up for Adobe Australia coz I've seen nothing about this?
All these Adobe plans are excellent... for Adobe. 😮
Thanks for the update. I wish Adobe had a senior citizen plan lol! This plan would be like $350 one-time pmt and last until I drop dead! Seriously!
I live in New Zealand, only use Photoshop and I have the "Photography 20GB" plan. I had a price increase this month, December 2024, from just under NZ$15.00 to about NZ$19.30. Will I be getting another price increase in January?
Of course its increasing in price with no value added
Have to cloud storage..no choice
They have 100% access to your photos,you have no choice when they use and how
Good luck
Thank you! This was very informative and much easier to understand than anything from Adobe. With over 14 years of images and being a high volume shooter, the 1TB plan is nowhere near enough to cover a years worth of photos and resoective edits. I'll be sticking with the LrC and Ps plan and keep working on my local drives. I also have a NAS, so if I absolutely need something, I can access my images without the additional cloud storage fees.
You're welcome! That sounds like a great plan. NAS devices are fantastic for local storage - I use mine for all my video content, and it makes life so much easier.
This for US customers only. For the rest of the World, Sayonara Adobe...!
So they're penalizing those who didn't ditch them last summer. Real nice.
Sorry, "penalizing" is incorrect, this is how capitalism works. A company raises prices as the economic environment changes e.g. inflation. Sounds like this is the first price change in 10 years, Do you really think the boardroom sat around and discussed how to punish those who stopped using their service? Really? Looks like more of a business decision than some vindictive plot. Bottom line, you don't like Adobe, don't use their service. I do appreciate you voicing your views. I'm just expressing mine too. Have a great day.
@@thomasd6592 Well now, I hadn't thought of that, but I bet they did sit around the boardroom and decide to raise the rates, with an evil glint in their eye. lol Especially after people made fun of their lame explanations. They probably know those still with them aren't going anywhere, so why not? Sure, they can do what they want. But a 50% increase all at once is a bit steep, considering they haven't raised the price in 10 years. Maybe they should've done a .50 cent increase every year.
Well said 👏
I would think that someone who is not currently using an Adobe Photo Plan, probably is not planning to ever sign up. There are now other photo processing programs that are as good as or better.
I wouldn't!
There is no real substitute for Lightroom Classic.
@@stefpix You're joking right? There are so many better programs out there it's crazy.
@ no. Which programs are better to manage a vast archive and edit/process the photos? Even Lightroom cloud does not come close the Lightroom Classic. There are many Photoshop alternatives. No real good alternatives for Lrc. Maybe Capture One is the only one.
@@stefpix Depending on what I am doing. I use an older Capture One version for tethering/organising studio shoots. I use darktable for editing. It can handle very large libraries and the modules/workflow makes sense to me (after a steep learning curve). Rarely, for anything requiring layers/Ai I use Affinity/Luminar (both one-off purchases)
Does this apply in the US alone or does it also apply in europe? There is no mention if it on german adobe website
This is happening only to US plans / prices or worldwide? 🤔
I'm happy that I use Nikon NX Studio, which is free.
Thanks for the info! I did not receive any notice from Adobe about these upcoming changes. I looked and saw I was only using 1.5GB of cloud storage. I just switched to the annual 20GB photo plan. Saved myself $120/yr.
You're welcome! I'm happy to help. I'm glad you locked in that other plan.
Ok, so in Finland the price ent from 12,54 to 18,99 per month and if you try to switch to annual it says "We’re unable to continue with this plan. Select another plan or if you think you’re seeing this message in error, please contact Customer Support."...
I'm not sure on a solution for that one. I've heard of a few other users having the same issue though.
5:17
Side question: what is the long term plan for storage and organization for the cloud plan? I’m a LR classic user since LR 1.0 and use my OS to organize my photos, and i prefer that.
However my cousin got into LR photography thru the iPad cloud app and she has hit a long term storage problem.
My question is, what is the solution to a long term LR cloud storage if it seems to put all of your data in a cloud lump. Meanwhile my LR classic libraries are organized per event, per year, with a LR catalog for each event (think capture one sessions). That is the only way I see to organize a library with backups instead of having all of your eggs Ina cloud basket.
Thank you!😊
I'm actually really happy they are adding LRC to the lightroom 1 TB plan! I mostly use LR, but occasionally want to use extensions in LRC, but it has not been worth the extra cost to me to get the photography 1 TB plan. A dollar extra isn't terrible.
Is there a plan to upgrade photoshop on the iPad or is it going away, has not been upgraded in months
what if you dont care about the cloud storage? I dont use it
Great question! If you want Lightroom Classic and Photoshop (and don't need cloud storage), I would downgrade/subscribe to the "Photography 20GB" plan before January 15th.
great video!!! do you know if the Lightroom Mobile subscription is changing?
Thank you! I don’t think that plan is changing at all.
Thanks for the heads up.
You're welcome!
So, if I sign up for the 20 GB plan before January 15th on a yearly basis, how much will I pay in January 2026?
I think it should be $119.88/year into the future.
I'm so glad i left Adobe, Capture one happy user, stand alone version
I've been wanting to switch, but the cost of Capture One is a little too high for me for their monthly plan. And while I appreciate an option to buy the program outright. I dislike how it doesn't allow for upgrades in the future.
Capture One is an excellent program for many photographers! I personally use it for tethering. For my normal workflow however, Lightroom fits my needs much better.
@@forestchaput yeah but they are not stealing my images to train AI and charge me more....Adobe lost over 1 millions subscribers...and capture one is not only for tethering, don't diminish the program...and you don't need a subscription to have it, and in Europe we don't have the 9.99 option, only 20 euros one with 1tb
You and me both. I prefer how it handles Sony raw colors than LR. I'm glad that Adobe doesn't have license to use "my" cloud files. The program is very powerful; then again so is it's overreach.
I’m not trying to diminish C1Pro at all. We taught both C1Pro and Lightroom at our school. I’m just making the point that both programs have their strengths and weaknesses and for me, Lightroom is better for my workflow.
So is the 20GB photography plan discontinued??
I Have existing subscription of 20GB annual photography plan paid monthly but right now I have a free trial and billing will start JAN 15 2025 so will my plan be same price??
You are the freaking man. Just saw this video and I changed from the monthly 9.99 to whole lump sum yearly. Yeah, it sucks taking the hit al at once, but it's better to pay the $130 with tax at once rather than almost $200 over a yr period.
How were you able to do it? I tried the same, and, when I clicked on the "manage plan" button, the only option I was given was to cancel outright; there was no option offered to change from monthly to yearly.
@ravenfallsphotography6254 Should be there. I went to manage subscription". The should be options to increase, change plan, or choose the 9.99 billed yearly. Should come out around $130 depending on tax.
Great comprehensive video. Very informative. Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the heads up!
frankly I was ok with the 10 USD for the photography plan but 5 USD increase is a bit abusive. I will switch plan and cancel to avoid the penalty fee and switch to affinity as a photoshop replacement. Lightroom is garbage compared to capture one .
Good video!
Make me realize that Adobe are out of my price range and I need to find something else to edit my fotos with.
Hey Forest, thanks for making the video. Really clear overview. One comment around the January 15th date. For people who have a plan that is impacted by the plan / pricing changes, it takes effect the next time they are up for renewal (not necessarily on January 15th). January 15th is the first date where people are up for renewal with the changes (hence us sharing information online now a month before that). But again, for existing members on plans which are changing, they keep their current pricing until they are up for their next renewal.
For example, if you signed up in June 2024 for a plan that is changing, you keep your current price until your next renewal on June 2025.
Note, if you currently don’t have a photography plan and want to get the 20gb photography plan, you have to do that before January 15th (after that it won’t be available to new users). (and you can keep it until you cancel).
(Just wanted to be clear for anyone confused about what is happening on the 15th)
(I work for Adobe)
Thank you for the clarification!
Clearly and that means Adobe is not doing anything nice for anybody. If someone pays the Anual subscription before Jan 15 Adobe better keep the price of face the regulators. Does Chaput work for Adobe that is presenting Adobe's legal obligation as something nice they are doing for the people?
I use PS and Bridge. I don’t know what Lightroom is. So which do I have?
I bet you have the "Photography (20GB)" plan which sounds like a good choice given your use of Photoshop.
My account is the Lightroom 10TB plan which includes Photoshop (inc Classic for both), I pay £8.04 per month on an Annual Plan basis, I have been with Adobe for 14 years, do you know what the changes would be ?
Unfortunately, I don't know how the changes would affect your current pricing. Your current pricing is insanely good.
Did you get an email for it? I haven’t seen anything coming in my email yet. Is this only applicable for US customers or worldwide.
Adobe has said that you should get an email about a month before your current plan is set to renew.
For the LIghtroom only plan, you might as well just pay a few bucks for (or prepay) and get PS with the Photography plan now if you can. Even if you don't use it, it's still a good deal, although you do have less storage. But I'll just switch to pay my Photography 20GB plan annually to lock in the price (for $120 it's hard to beat to get LR, LRC and PS plus 20GB of storage, which I use very little of myself).
Personally I would like to see Adobe also offer an option to add an extra seat to your subscription (since you can only use the apps on two computers at a time), but for those who might have a tablet, laptop and desktop, or a desktop at work and a laptop and tablet at home, then for maybe another $4 or $5 per month they can add that third device to their plan, so pay $14.99 for example for the 20GB Photography plan for 3 devices.
I'm never quite sure what happens if I decide to not renew my subscription. I know that my original images are still available and unaltered. But what about the many thousands of edits that remain in my catalog? Will they still be accessible even if no longer editable and exportable? If all we loose by not continuing with our subscription will be the lack of continued updates for our LR/PS apps, then I'm just about ready to say "Ta-Ta" to Adobe and fire up my DxO PL.
Interesting, I rarely use Photoshop so may downgrade to the Lightroom 1TB plan. However my storage is quickly filling. Do you know how I would upgrade to 2TB?
Yep! Open the Creative Cloud application, click on the cloud icon in the upper-right, and click the "Upgrade" button. Also, you could consider using the "Archive to Local Storage" option to pull some of your data off of the cloud and just store it locally. Just make sure you have a good backup system in place for that data.
I'm on the Lightroom classic / photoshop $9.99 plan. What do I need to do to lock in that same price yearly? Where do I go? I'm not seeing any options when I sign in to my account telling me I need to change to a yearly plan.
I think you can click the “Manage Plan” button in your account to make that switch.
@@forestchaput I tried that and there was no option to switch to yearly. So I opened up a chat with adobe and they told me that I could keep paying monthly
and my price would be locked in. According to them, they are NOT making people pay yearly? Now I'm confused? I'd post the conversation but can't do that in this format.
I offered to pay yearly, but they told me that my $9.99 a month plan will not change whether I pay yearly or monthly.
Looks like I need to switch to Adobe alternatives! What are the price changes for those of us who have the Creative Cloud All Apps 100GB???
I don't believe the "All Apps" plan pricing is changing at all.
Thanks for the info. I just changed from monthly $9.99 20gb plan to annual $119.88. Adobe website informed me I could save 33% by switching and not get the price increase. 👍 plus I get a $7.41 refund for this month. I have until December 29th to cancel.
Nice!
Great more money to Adobe, for more crashes and constant updates with bugs. I think it’s time I find a new editing software.
The spinning ball of death, three hours of Adobe remotely attempting to fix, then Apple trying for two hours was the nail in the coffin for LRC. I had to pay $70 to cancel my subscription but I’ll stick with Luminar, and only use LR Mobile from now on
The price of Adobe subscriptions is already obscene.
Jesus Christ, here I was, fucking naive as fuck, thinking they would lower their prices. 😂 Afinity Photo will profit from this.
Just like Davinci Resolve in the video editing realm.
Apple sees the opportunity of the mess that is Adobe and looks to be moving back into the photography editing world. Pixelmator is a great but simple app and perhaps Apple could also buy Adobe, strip it of all its mess, confusion and bad practices to give us a new state of the art, Aperture, the app so many of us miss.
Adobe is making it easy to leave them now that Apple is in the Game. Jan 15 bye bye Adobe it’s been nice knowing you, but you just made my plan easier
So now I have a yearly subscription. But I pay for it 9.99 a month. So I have to pay it all up front for the whole year?
Sorry. Got a little confused.
So yes, you will want to change your payment option from "billed monthly" to "billed annually" to lock in the $9.99/month pricing. You can make that change when your plan is up for renewal, or right now if you want to.
Oh, these price increases for the 20gb photography plan represent a nearly 50% increase in pricing. I am basing this on the Australian dollar (AUD) from USD exchange rate. 3 months of that is a whole year's worth of Photomator.
I made my “informed decision” years ago when I purchased Nik photo editing software. I now utilize DxO who market the old Nik software in addition to their own excellent photo editing programs…
Adobes a joke. I don’t want to pay for something I don’t necessarily use every month.
I used to be an annual payment subscriber, then somewhere along the line Adobe switched me to monthly payments. Can I change it back to an annual payment at this point? They sure know how to get you, but none of the other software packages that I am aware of have a map module, and geotagging photos is an important part of my workflow. Thanks so much Forest for this information!
Darktable has a map module. I don't need it, but it's there. Only catch is the software is free and runs on any operating system. Oh well.
With all the problems Adobe created for itself, I can't believe they are also raising their pricing.
I think Im the last one ....also when you feel the cloud...images can still be edited JUST not saved...BUT you can still access them...they don't disappear
I reached this point 👉 and went ok 👍
I've been on the $9.99/mo plan since it was first brought out and the entire time it has been $9.99/mo. I thinjk it's reasonable to increase prices after such time, however if the trend starts to be yearly increase then I'm going to have to force myself to at least consider other options. I would love if they had a creators plan that included LRC, PS and Pr for $19.99/mo, I don't need cloud storage either.
I would LOVE a "creator" plan.
so new customers are screwed after jan 15th if they want the industry standard lightroom classic and photoshop. Also anyone that cancels their plan because of adobes bad terms and conditions and re-signs up are also screwed. Why didnt you mention this? seems shady
details, details lol (I was wondering the same thing, though)
So, I will now go from €12.19 to €17.99 ($9.99-$14.99 US).
I’ll think about it a bit, but I’ll probably cancel it. I already hate paying for Lightroom and never using it. I just want Photoshop, but they don’t want to offer it at a reasonable standalone price for solo PS (again)
I would love an à la carte system for subscribing to different Adobe applications.
fyi, you can lock in the existing cost (per year) if you changed to a yearly, paid up front plan. (I work for adobe)
@ I’m sorry, but I don’t want to spend around €150 upfront.
Before taking up the hobby of photography, I used Photoshop and Illustrator in concert with Indesign and FrameMaker when I worked as a documentation writer and desktop publisher. In that situation, I had no need for Lightroom. It's too bad that Adobe doesn't allow customers to choose individual programs according to their specific needs.
well, i've been debating cancelling my LR PS plan as i just can't justify it for how much i use it now that i use capture one mostly. I really need photoshop now and then, but now a price increase? no thanks. i'll make gimp or something else work. they should drop the price not increase it.
The only problem is that the cloud version of LR is completely useless, you have to have your entire catalogue of images in Adobe cloud, local storage isn’t part of the catalogue. I have 10TB of photos split across 3 catalogues so it’s classic for me. I tried using LR cloud for one of my catalogues but it was unusable, it took several hours to sync a couple of hundred images
Oh yes, Lightroom vs. Lightroom Classic completely depends on the photographer. I was a die-hard Classic user, but once I stopped shooting as much high-volume work and got faster internet, I've really started to like the Lightroom workflow.
Now I'm more sure endall adobe plans this year thanks.
Adobe is leaving the photographer behind and Inhave had enough
You must be joking - another price hike, the value being what exactly? Going forward I choose the NONE plan, as in kicking Adobe to the curb.
Very clear explanation! (as always...) 🤔 everyone is jumping to the cloud... for some reason I thought that my $9,99 a month plan, (Photography one...), had the cloud included... (unless I am confuse and I am using the Lr app on my Iphone, which might be another thing...). Do you think having the cloud is worth it...? Do I have all the same features than LRC... what is cool is that I can use all my devices, but 1TB won't last long, & then ADOBE will charge way extra for space...) 😑 what to do???? 😩
You do not have all the features of the Classic, that is what stopping me from using iPad as a editing device. Its just a cool gimmick for youtubers to drink coffee in starbucks with that ipad.
I knew this was coming. I suspect next year they will get rid of the 20GB plan all together.
I got a year subscription for 70€ for the full adobe suite which was acceptable, next year I'll switch to something else.
Caption why would you go that far and not install liners? They are more important than any part to get a seal on rings! Do the liners!
Thank you !!!!
You're welcome!
If you are a Photography Plan monthly user at $9.98 how do you change over to paying $119.98 for the year? Its worth noting here that as a UK Adobe Photography Plan User I should have been charged £7.92 British Pounds for all these years that Adobe have been ripping me off at £9.99 British pounds, (based on todays exchange rate!). Based on todays exchange rate the annual fee in the UK would then be £95.08 British pounds, not £119.98, an increase of around 26% for British customers. Its very odd that Adobe just charge the same flat rate whether you are a US or UK customer, but thats another story I suppose! I realise Adobe havent changed their prices in 10 years but this nevertheless leaves a bit of a sour taste in the mouth for the way theyre doing this, why for instance kill of people wanting to get onto the 20GB Photography Plan after January 15th. I suspect that this may signal the start of the end of my using Adobes products into the future,
I believe that if you want to switch from a monthly payment to an annual payment for the Photography Plan, Adobe allows you to make that change through your Adobe Account settings in the "Manage Plan" section.
@@forestchaput For me the only "Available Actions" in my Manage plan section is a cancel subscription button.
@forestchaput cheers, I'll try that, as I really didn't look forward to ringing their awful customer services
100% agree with the exchange rate rip-off think how much that has swelled the coffers over the years, it’s fairly standard business practice for arrogant US tech firms though (think Apple)
@nickmiles609 just wrong isn't it.
Yet another reason to dump Adobe!
UK here I use RAW and PS it costs £9.98pence per month. in you money that's $12.88c, so they all ready charge us over the top. As for the cloud I don't use it and don't want it. If they plan on putting the prices up here I think it's time to leave.
What about the full creative cloud price honey?
I don't believe the pricing on the "All Apps" plan is changing.
Increasing prices? LoL! They are losing customers so they increase prices... Opposite of what you should do if demand goes down...
What about those who use a one year subscription voucher? I've paid until 2026 at the moment.
I think you should be all set then!
I looked for plans for Canada, $49.99 for lightroom, $49.99 for photoshop monthly. Are you insane Adobe?
Not sure where you are looking. I am in Canada & I see the 1TB plan at $25.99CAD/mo & the 20GB is 12.99CAD/mo
@@MarkHolloway I saw it too, so I clicked on Prepaid for a year plan with 20 GB data and I saw message saying like : Wrong page for your country. And it redirect me to the site where I saw $49.99 for Lightroom ...
How can they justify the price increase. With all the competition coming out and whats out there now, PS is cutting their nose to spite their face. They act like they have a monopoly but thats no longer the case. Price increases have gotten out of control, and they need to justify why...and you will find its unjustified. Abstinence from use will apply the pressure needed to reverse a bad plan.
Also, why would anyone use. Adobes cloud anything when they have been exposed for using your work to train their AI?
Have to ask - is the author of this video an Adobe "ambassador"? A friend wants to know, is all...
Too bad they don't have just a Photoshop plan because I don't use LR.
This is why i left Adobe lol.
Perhaps a sign Adobe has caught wind that Apple is brewing something…🤔
1 TB of cloud storage of your valuable images that Adobe can then use to train its AI to replace you and all other photographers? NOPE, nevahhhhhh!
CORRECTION: There's no "go-to" recommendation with Adobe. The only recommendation is to get used to the other amazing software out there and quit Adobe.
I will never ever pay for a software subscription.. sorry not sorry
Thanks for 74 subscribe ❤
50% increase.
Adobe doing their best to promote pirate software
It's a rip-off company with software that crashes all the time.
I have capture , one evoto, and ligjtroom. Ill.just keep capture one and dump adobe .
Piracy here I come!
If they just let people pick and choose what apps they wanted that would be nice. I want Photoshop, Lightroom and Illustrator, that's it. No cloud storage. $4.99 a month per app, how about that Adobe? I don't need everything you make for 60. How about just what I really need for 15? Sorry, just shouting at a wall..,
I love that idea!
I am sooo glad I don't use this ripoff garbage.
"Adobe os doing a pretty cool thing". With all due respect... What's wrong woth you? How to to get subscribed.