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Brian never ceases to amaze me with how different he can see what they are doing. Rope Darts becomes an improve routine. Also I hope you do a leather working video. Brian, Jason please do not let us down because it would be awesome.
Brian is a professional magician, so he generally views the world through that sort of lens. Everything is physics and routine, plus a touch of improv and child-like wonder.
Note that Asian martial arts is a huge reason why Avatar: The Last Airbender is so cool. The bending is based in distinct martial arts disciplines, and it all works really well in animation. It's a kid's show, but I can still wholeheartedly recommend it to adults.
This is like the third or fourth time modern rogue has posted a video within days of me independently researching and attempting a new esoteric skill. Really makes me wonder about the VPN sponsor.
"So we made our knife into a grenade so it could explode once we threw it, and then we tied a rope to it so we could pull the exploding knife back to us after we threw it. "There is absolutely nothing that could possibly go wrong with this."
"How functional of a weapon" "Oh, we'll find out..." Join us next time as Brian and Jason put their Prison Shanks and cooking skills to the test, after their murder trial goes south!
I've done some impromptu rope dart martial arts before. It's actually quite fun once you get a feel for the twining and redirecting the force of the dart. The whole idea of twining is to create an unexpected bend that redirects the momentum to make a real projectile attack. It shortens the arc so suddenly, and condenses the energy so rapidly, that there's zero time to react. It can cover dozens of feet in moments, and with practice it becomes extremely accurate. I got to the point I could strip bark with a plain copper wire with a knot at the end. Imagine if you put a mace head on the end of a rope like that. You'd impale someone with every swing.
I’ve been practicing rope darts for a very long time an I am incredibly glad you guys “explored” them (you guys should definitely do another video because there is way more to see)
Y'know as a kid since he almost always equipped it on Flame-swordsman, I always thought the card was called "Cool guy with chain". I never got the actual card so it wasn't until I watched Naruto that I found out what a kunai actually is and what Joey was actually saying.
8:13 PREACH MR EDITOR! Paul Greengrass ruined Bourne 2 and 3 with that "put the camera in a paint shaker to spice it up" cinematography. Only movies ever where I got motion sick and had to walk out of the theater.
Ha! Thanks! I'm just glad that I happened to watch Collateral the same week that I saw the Bourne Supremacy, and saw what a master like Michael Mann can do with those new fangled 'digital' cameras, and what someone without taste like Greengrass will do. - Modern Rogue Editor
Both the nunchuck episode and the whip episode had injury counter resets (pretty notable ones). I have a feeling that this has many aspects of both and thus have a feeling that something may happen in this episode. Nothing about the ER in the title so it can't be too bad. Also an injury counter reset in the blow dart episode, but I hope they aren't using nails
From my understanding. Rope darts aren't usually bladed. They typically have a metal spike at the end. used as a mix of blunt impact from a heavy object moving at high speeds and a shart point when swinging out. The rope tricks you see are to keep it fluid and fast similar to the nunchucks. The rope also allows you to get faster bursts and varying attack distances making it a bit unpredictable as you can also change the direction of the attack more fluidly. For example just spinning it, the motion has an obvious flight path. However say mid swing you grab further onto the rope. Its swing is now closer to the body. If the person you were defending against had moved in thinking they were safe the heavy spike is now flying sideways at them. With a couple of grabs and proper placed pulls. Its now flying up at them instead of from the side. There is a lot of technique to it that may seem unnecessary however far from it. The show offy moves you see can allow for more angles of attack. From swings to where its being thrown from.
Here's the thing you guys missed on why it works. The end goes into a circle because the force pushing at the end wants to go in a straight line. Using your legs or arms to partially wtap the rope first allows a small build up of speed before you release letting the end of the rope go straight making it easier to attack and control your strikes
I appreciate that y'all's method of getting experts on the show is making a borderline shit post about the topic first. Then some expert will see it and go "christ... I need to set the record straight"
It’s more about conservation of momentum rather than potential energy, when they do the spins they don’t let the blade stop moving so it goes out faster than it went in with the same movement that went into it, the blade doesn’t touch them because they know where it is going to go and they don’t let it stop. The art of it is wrapping it around a body part (like an elbow or your knee) and using the increasing septripital force (because it gets closer to the body part in a decreasing circle) and already in motion darts, and then removing the body part at the right time to launch it faster and with more motion than what you put into it
Fun fact for you rogues! The blade on a normal rope dart has several links of large, but light, chain connecting it to the rope! This is where the flag is attached! These links have another use: when the enemy gets the stabbo via the blade being launched into the chest (normally with the underhand launch or whatever it's called) the links would catch on the target's internal organs and pull them out! Such fun weapons!
It's actually a very effective weopon, the part where he hurls it forward is actually deadly if you have the dagger at the end, it's basically like throwing a knife while controlling it on a rope
This reminds me of those "balletic" methods of fighting. It's very intimidating to stare-down but since they have to keep it in motion, you could just as easily bait them to launch it, then run forward and tackle the user. Like you learned in BJJ's blocking a haymaker, you could just get in the way. While it *might* be capable of wrapping around you, it's hard to say it'd do damage, and I doubt you could control someone with a rope so loosely wrapped-around someone - we have knots for a reason. (Nitpick: Armor mostly negates this weapon) Tl;dr, spinny thing pretty, not useful for real combat. As a side note, the third video with the sparkly fire looked an awful lot like fire poi, and might have been mislabeled as this rope dart(because they do be lookin' similar)
I'm pretty sure these weapons werent actually used for fighting they were practiced in peace for discipline. Chinese martial arts had a lot to do with stuff like morality and not just practicality.
I gotta feel like a meteor hammer, the version of that weapon with a heavy weight on the end rather than a knife would be a lot more dangerous. The bigger problem is even if they hit you with a weapon like the rope knife straight on, it just wouldn't do that much damage. Someone isn't going to stop fighting after they get stabbed once, or cut once, meanwhile if you have a several-pounds heavy weight on the end of that rope and crack someone in the head, then they're done, that's a ton of punch, and I'm sure enough to fracture someone's skull. Meanwhile the knife would give them a painful, but superficial cut with the same blow. Meanwhile, in some of the literature on the subject of fighting from Western sources, we find that slashes and stabs, especially those from weapons with a flexible blade can struggle to pierce even thick clothing. I think on Matt Easton's channel, there's a video where he reads an account of a spadroon being completely ineffective against enemy soldiers because of their Winter coats. All that would be made way, way worse by having a blade on the end of a long, flexible rope.
If you were to have a heavy weight on the end of the rope it would mean that centrifugal force is gonna make it alot harder to control plus if you were to miss and attack or even mess up slightly it requires lot more effort and thus time to build that momentum back up. Overall it just seems like an ineffective weapon whether it has a heavy or light weight at the end. All that you have to do is close the distance or stop the momentum so simply blocking it, hitting it, them missing or rushing them down are all likely to work. Tbh I would rather have a large stick than one of these in a fight.
@@billhorst-kotter5184 it's random because they're morons who don't know how to use it. as for tight spaces you just take a shorter grip on the rope or dart/knife itself.
Oh my Lord I love the humor you guys have while legitimately trying to learn things. When you were talking about how Jason had no clue what he was doing and he's just flailing around I lost it. Love the vid as always, you guys
When I was in karate for a short while in college, my sensei used to do this before and after class and he would use both a practice and bladed one. He we really precise with it, while probably not as effective as using any other martial weapon, he really made it seem like you didnt want to be with in 15 feet of him and being on his wrong side
The rope dart/meteor hammer is a very “don’t get close or you’ll either get impaled or a cracked skull” weapon, you can also use it up close by choking the weapon and using the extra rope to restrain
@@LokiKeanu Tbh, this rope dart is trash. The blade cant really hurt you, unless it hits your eyes. Only with the momentum it just doesnt have enough power to heavily injure you. You just need your jacket and a knife to beat this weapon rapier-n-cloak-style.
One of my favorite weapons! Horrible execution,😂but yes. The constant motion is about energy and defense, but the "wraps" are also used to redirect the dart. One of my favorite rope dart scenes is the "horseshoe" fight with Jackie Chan in Shanghai Noon. Its pretty cool. Is it a practical weapon? ...well, a spork in the right hands can be deadly. The rope dart is not really "practical" in this day and age, but the ability to trap and redirect staffs and spears in 700 AD? I'm sure it had its uses, but nowadays its fun to watch and a blast to learn!
I like to think there was a fight in history where someone was doing some flurries with a rope dart, someone threw something at them, and then they stabbed themselves after they flinched.
I can't see this working in a battlefield situation. Assuming you have multiple rope dart casters, trying to use this in a formation against another formation of troops is gonna end badly for the rope darte wielders.
It was a last ditch weapon. It was something you could hide under your clothes to keep in reserve in case your spear broke and you didn't have a sword.
From what I understand (keep in mind I am by no means a master of anything), all that balletic stuff is about being able to recover and reissue the dart when it is knocked away or has struck someone. It's less about making it more deadly and more about not getting hit by it yourself. So once you can fully manipulate it, you can then recover it when using it in a fight. Think this was actually shown in Kill Bill volume 2.
This one time, a guy robbed my house, since I watched this video a bit before I had already purchased my very own rope dart, and started practicing, so when the robber broke in..... I accidentally grabbed my cardboard target, got shot twice in the knee with his gun, then cried.
As a practitioner of ropedart, this pains me to watch. Good video though, these were most typically defensive weapons, sorta a tricky thing to fight against when its all coiled up like a snake. The dart end goes through the dominant hand with slack held in the non dominant. The dart end goes out the pinky side and can be spun forward or backward. (I am self taught so dont take this with a grain of salt)
Yeah, most anything they've ever done is pretty much an insult to anyone who knows what they're doing in any particular subject. But, that part of why it's funny to watch imo. So far the only thing I've seen either of them speak knowledgeably about is comics, movie quotes, and fire eating/magic (Brian)
yes, this is a very practical weapon. it was meant to be carried long distance for concealed self defense. the reason you wrap it around your body in different ways, is kind of like the purpose of an engine- converting the rotational spinning into a lateral strike. the point of the "flower" is to distract the enemy, the cloth was placed a foot or so behind the blade itself; it's purpose was to trick the enemy into thinking the blade itself was further away than it truly was. the point of keeping it moving is not to create any sort of force field, as much as it is to conserve and recycle energy. the rope dart, as you said, is absolutely beautiful in slow motion; if you slo-mo in front of the dart the cloth will flare up and it's really pretty.
The twining parts are not only conservation of energy but also how you redirect that energy around you. P.s. The pointy (ball) part should never actually touch you. The first technique to learn is the elbow wrap redirect. Not too hard and it looks cool. Edit to say: Real easy to hit yourself in your own head though.
I love that Brian is like, "I'd rather have a big stick." The rope dart is designed entirely for disarming trained soldiers with swords and spears. If you come up on even an unskilled man with even a practice rope dart they can tie you up and knock you out in a single blow. Probably by accident too.
@@fuckoff81747 "Rope darts" can be made with chain. Historical Shinobi could, just ropes, disarm trained Samurai. The wrong country yes, but the fact still stands. th-cam.com/video/T4meBZnP2c8/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=RoninDave A performance version of the technique can be seen here. Recorded in いが うえの (Iga-Ueno).
I just want to say thank you guys so much for filling the space of testing whatever you find fun like the Mythbusters. I missed the silly outlet of this kind of thing so badly.
I can't even believe this channel is well over a million subs (well I kind of can because it's awesome), I remember the first time on scam school when when they were like "so head on over to the modern rogue and check it out" or whatever. It had a few thousand subs at the time and it's come so insanely far since then. Hell I remember when scam school was at like 80k subs, wow time sure does fly - I pretty much grew up learning magic tricks from Brian's vids, and Jason is practically my spirit animal at this point lol.
Remember though, it is much more than the rope movement. In order to "capture" and continue the potential energy, your body needs to be fluid with the movement. Otherwise, like seen, you end up crushing yourself or losing that energy. This was a great feat of attempt I've seen from y'all. Had me laughing pretty hard.
amazing videos guys! ive been following you for a long time now n i love all the content! always gives me a laugh in a hard time... keep up the amazing work! :DD lotsa love from the netherlands
Rope dart is the hardest to learn of the Shaolin weapons. I've been training for about 5 years with a manriki made of steel and the amount of technique involved is no joke. Been doing staff knife and sword work for 15 years too. Rope dart just needs a lot of training to become capable
I feel like the main uses for this kind of weapon is either to have a mid-range weapon without the bulk of a polearm, or to make a surprisingly effective(though potentially self destructive) makeshift weapon out of stuff that everyone used to have around. It also has potential as a weapon that you could have carried into places that didn't also swords, or if you replace the dagger with a weight, then places that don't allow blades. I've gotta be honest though, I would still take a spear or a staff over one of those. As for looks, heck yeah it looks super cool.
My wife just figured it out... and I must say, I think I agree.... Brian is slowly turning into Adam Savage! Keep up the good work guys, we love the Modern Rogue!
I trained in Hung Gar for 12 years before I busted my back at my regular job. The rope can be used to catch incoming arms, legs and weapons. The metal dart can be shot out quite accurately to a distance of around 20 feet. I used to practice against an old palm tree leaving 1 inch dents on the palm trunk. The rope dart punctures very well and the praticioner must have control when shooting and reeling the dart back in (my shin can attest to it). It's weapon brother, the meteor hammer is a solid metal almost ball like.. it was designed to destroy bones. Both were great, easily concealed weapons.
My favorite form of this weapon is something I came up with myself. If you take a rope with a loop in one end and a weight/knife at the other end, as long as your forearm, you can use it exactly as nunchucks. I usually have my keys or a short knife on the end of it. Keeping the weapon in motion lets you react faster to any attack.
This is perfect they’re like a tamer version of my family. I just spent half of the night letting my dad and my family friend shoot bottle rockets at me why I wore my helmet .
Ok to me, the best part of the your videos is listening and watching you two start opening your minds, if that makes sense? I love the practicality and not so much, thought process you guts do, it makes me think about the current project a lot more too!!!! Ive watched that girls fire rope dart videos before and like you said it looks amazing but in battle is it practical. Then when you freaked out just sticking the sword in, it made me think.......if a Army is running in to battle and approach a few people spinning fire around and launching it at them....i mean the fear had to be real?! Especially considering the time of when these would be used right?
I learned to use one ages ago. But I've not practiced in about 12yrs. That said, when i saw the title i figured you guys would be comically learning to use one or comically try and maybe reset the counter.
I did a whip chain form for my 1st black belt test, and I cranked myself in the face once training for it. I don’t remember it happening, I just remember doing the form, and then everybody was huddled around me on the floor. These things are no joke.
When I first saw Brian and Jason when I watching Hacking the System at Nat Geo, I thought they were the most intelligent people I've ever seen. Thanks to the Modern Rogue, I've seen that they are just a couple of goofballs in a garage and I love them more. I'm glad I watched Hacking the System and I'm glad I rediscovered them on this TH-cam channel.
Easy solution. Get a pike (essentially a 10-20 ft/ 3-6m spear just in case you didn't know), stick it in the wall of spinning death, and just let the rope dart tangle itself up and then either the person with the rope dart can yank the pike out of your hand like a lasso while the pike is towards them essentially letting them impale themselves thinking they were smart OR they don't do that and you stick em with the pointy end anyways.
Oh this reminds me of using scarves to defend yourself in Kali (please correct me if the martial art is wrong, I studied a few things at once) Very impractical but in the exact correct circumstance and the correct context can be super useful Edit: I recognize that if you're wearing the standard loop scarf and fighting a knife wielder it is useful, but...you know.... normal practicality
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Tis sounds like a useful pen-
How did get a comment in 10 min before the video?? What sorcery is this?
Hmm yeah what he said
MY imaginary pen does SO MUCH MORE. Slices, Dices, makes French Fries in a flash.
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I’m pretty sure that the board just says ”get over here” in a bunch of different languages. And if so, that's awesome!
DRAT! I was just about to comment this! The only one I know for sure is French "Viens ici!"
Njoo hapa is swahili
Cultured nerds are hilarious, I love it
Im a weeb
affirm
Brian never ceases to amaze me with how different he can see what they are doing. Rope Darts becomes an improve routine. Also I hope you do a leather working video. Brian, Jason please do not let us down because it would be awesome.
Leather working sounds dope
Brian is a professional magician, so he generally views the world through that sort of lens. Everything is physics and routine, plus a touch of improv and child-like wonder.
Me: sees title
Also Me: set back the counter
half way through and the injury counter is doing good
Great minds think alike, and apparently we do too.
Wainwright Jakobs 😂.
"The rope dart has two parts. The rope and the dart."
- Assassin's Creed 3
The hookblade has two parts, the hook and the blade.
Assassin's Creed Revelations
Note that Asian martial arts is a huge reason why Avatar: The Last Airbender is so cool. The bending is based in distinct martial arts disciplines, and it all works really well in animation. It's a kid's show, but I can still wholeheartedly recommend it to adults.
If i'm being perfectly honest, i think it's EXTREMELY unfair to call Avatar a kid's show.
Avatar is a teen/adult show that looks like a kids show with deep lore, awesome world building, and memorable characters with martial arts mixed in.
I think y'all are really stretchin' here by calling Avatar not a kid's show, but it can definitely be enjoyed by individuals of all ages.
If you make a kid's show only enjoyable by kids, you're not making a good kid's show
A good kid's show sticks with you up to adulthood
I’m here to see how rope darts work for my ATLA themed D&D game lol
This is like the third or fourth time modern rogue has posted a video within days of me independently researching and attempting a new esoteric skill. Really makes me wonder about the VPN sponsor.
Are you saying that you're the one true modern rogue the legends speak of?
We modern rogues are all connected by a mystical power that transcends all scientific knowledge, VPN ain’t gunna help with that son!
It’s because Brian’s a sorcerer
I've had a kusari-fundo for a year. Watching these two makes me feel so much better about myself.
@@citizen-7xl5 this. the conman's hivemind.
Every Episode: Brian becomes more like Adam and Jason becomes more like Jamie
Jason needs a beret!
I was thinking more Abbot and Costello.
Nah, Brian and Jason are actually buddies
Brian needs a haircut.
That didn’t end well...let’s hope not
“It’s potential energy”
“Ahhhhhhhhh”
Most scientific discussion ever
Fr.... Most of what he said sounded like BS to me 😑
@@assassinThatsbadatlying The water tower part was legit.
anybody else think it said “exploding rope dart” and then immediately fear for both of their lives
I am glad I am not the sole human who misread it
Yes, but I'm not sure if that was a misread, or if they updated the title after... Hmm.
no, i read it as exploring rope dart... and still feared for their lives.
"So we made our knife into a grenade so it could explode once we threw it, and then we tied a rope to it so we could pull the exploding knife back to us after we threw it.
"There is absolutely nothing that could possibly go wrong with this."
Guilty
"How functional of a weapon"
"Oh, we'll find out..."
Join us next time as Brian and Jason put their Prison Shanks and cooking skills to the test, after their murder trial goes south!
can you explore my parent's marriage? its quite fitting of the general themes of MR videos
a mess?
The injury counter always rolls back?
One is reckless with fire?
Need a hug?
It usually doesn’t work out?
another episode in the "weapons that can hurt us more than our opponent" series lol
“Its like when you watch the first 22 Avengers movies and nobody says avengers assemble” I agree Jason... I agree
I've done some impromptu rope dart martial arts before. It's actually quite fun once you get a feel for the twining and redirecting the force of the dart. The whole idea of twining is to create an unexpected bend that redirects the momentum to make a real projectile attack. It shortens the arc so suddenly, and condenses the energy so rapidly, that there's zero time to react. It can cover dozens of feet in moments, and with practice it becomes extremely accurate. I got to the point I could strip bark with a plain copper wire with a knot at the end. Imagine if you put a mace head on the end of a rope like that. You'd impale someone with every swing.
I’ve been practicing rope darts for a very long time an I am incredibly glad you guys “explored” them (you guys should definitely do another video because there is way more to see)
The Modern Rogue plays with a Meteor Hammer.
Where’s the injury counter at now?
I love how "Go away bad guys" has become a thing, I love it, keep up the good content!
I took my first throwing knife, tied a knot on it, and then proceeded to yeet it at a stump. It worked quite well actually-
Might try that…
@@will_scarborough6487 Okie, I recommend a underhand throw when you sling it at a target.
Bob Sanslancer thanks for the advice
The dart at the end is just used to keep them at a distance usually you would rap the rope around the neck to kill
So basicly, you made a yeet blade?
Brian: Bro to Bro?
Jason: leather daddy, wait what?
Jason: rope dart
Me, a Yu-Gi-Oh player: Kunai with chain
Y'know as a kid since he almost always equipped it on Flame-swordsman, I always thought the card was called "Cool guy with chain". I never got the actual card so it wasn't until I watched Naruto that I found out what a kunai actually is and what Joey was actually saying.
Me, a martial arts nerd: Johyo.
@@enderhayes4211 Which is weird because it didn't come in my starte deck Joey
@@3rdeye7thdimension me a fan of weird okinawan type weapons: kusari tanto
@@3rdeye7thdimension Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well !
I'd never seen "X minutes ago" on the front page of youtube before this, neat
8:13 PREACH MR EDITOR! Paul Greengrass ruined Bourne 2 and 3 with that "put the camera in a paint shaker to spice it up" cinematography. Only movies ever where I got motion sick and had to walk out of the theater.
Ha! Thanks! I'm just glad that I happened to watch Collateral the same week that I saw the Bourne Supremacy, and saw what a master like Michael Mann can do with those new fangled 'digital' cameras, and what someone without taste like Greengrass will do.
- Modern Rogue Editor
Both the nunchuck episode and the whip episode had injury counter resets (pretty notable ones). I have a feeling that this has many aspects of both and thus have a feeling that something may happen in this episode. Nothing about the ER in the title so it can't be too bad.
Also an injury counter reset in the blow dart episode, but I hope they aren't using nails
No concussions, hopefully
12:35 has to be my favorite clip of the year. The way Brian still said the line but super quiet has me dying/crying.
Immediately my first thought is, “I wonder who’s gonna reset the injury counter today?”
My favorite is when Brian's voice gets up into that "worried for everyone's safety" octave
From my understanding. Rope darts aren't usually bladed. They typically have a metal spike at the end. used as a mix of blunt impact from a heavy object moving at high speeds and a shart point when swinging out. The rope tricks you see are to keep it fluid and fast similar to the nunchucks. The rope also allows you to get faster bursts and varying attack distances making it a bit unpredictable as you can also change the direction of the attack more fluidly. For example just spinning it, the motion has an obvious flight path. However say mid swing you grab further onto the rope. Its swing is now closer to the body. If the person you were defending against had moved in thinking they were safe the heavy spike is now flying sideways at them. With a couple of grabs and proper placed pulls. Its now flying up at them instead of from the side. There is a lot of technique to it that may seem unnecessary however far from it. The show offy moves you see can allow for more angles of attack. From swings to where its being thrown from.
I'm also intrigued at how well/poorly these flying projectiles on ropes will go
Here's the thing you guys missed on why it works. The end goes into a circle because the force pushing at the end wants to go in a straight line. Using your legs or arms to partially wtap the rope first allows a small build up of speed before you release letting the end of the rope go straight making it easier to attack and control your strikes
I appreciate that y'all's method of getting experts on the show is making a borderline shit post about the topic first. Then some expert will see it and go "christ... I need to set the record straight"
Yeeees!
It’s more about conservation of momentum rather than potential energy, when they do the spins they don’t let the blade stop moving so it goes out faster than it went in with the same movement that went into it, the blade doesn’t touch them because they know where it is going to go and they don’t let it stop. The art of it is wrapping it around a body part (like an elbow or your knee) and using the increasing septripital force (because it gets closer to the body part in a decreasing circle) and already in motion darts, and then removing the body part at the right time to launch it faster and with more motion than what you put into it
Just what I need at 2 in the morning
Same.
Me too
530 am here mate!!! :))))))))))))
Your in the UK aren't ya mate
3 a.m. is best a.m.
Fun fact for you rogues! The blade on a normal rope dart has several links of large, but light, chain connecting it to the rope! This is where the flag is attached!
These links have another use: when the enemy gets the stabbo via the blade being launched into the chest (normally with the underhand launch or whatever it's called) the links would catch on the target's internal organs and pull them out!
Such fun weapons!
Y'all need to dress up a guest as dress-pants robot-man and have them stand in the background then have them walk out on their cue
They should eat there cereal
It's actually a very effective weopon, the part where he hurls it forward is actually deadly if you have the dagger at the end, it's basically like throwing a knife while controlling it on a rope
Plus the rope acting like a lever, which gives it way more speed than hand throwing.
This reminds me of those "balletic" methods of fighting. It's very intimidating to stare-down but since they have to keep it in motion, you could just as easily bait them to launch it, then run forward and tackle the user. Like you learned in BJJ's blocking a haymaker, you could just get in the way. While it *might* be capable of wrapping around you, it's hard to say it'd do damage, and I doubt you could control someone with a rope so loosely wrapped-around someone - we have knots for a reason. (Nitpick: Armor mostly negates this weapon)
Tl;dr, spinny thing pretty, not useful for real combat.
As a side note, the third video with the sparkly fire looked an awful lot like fire poi, and might have been mislabeled as this rope dart(because they do be lookin' similar)
I'm pretty sure these weapons werent actually used for fighting they were practiced in peace for discipline. Chinese martial arts had a lot to do with stuff like morality and not just practicality.
I gotta feel like a meteor hammer, the version of that weapon with a heavy weight on the end rather than a knife would be a lot more dangerous. The bigger problem is even if they hit you with a weapon like the rope knife straight on, it just wouldn't do that much damage. Someone isn't going to stop fighting after they get stabbed once, or cut once, meanwhile if you have a several-pounds heavy weight on the end of that rope and crack someone in the head, then they're done, that's a ton of punch, and I'm sure enough to fracture someone's skull. Meanwhile the knife would give them a painful, but superficial cut with the same blow.
Meanwhile, in some of the literature on the subject of fighting from Western sources, we find that slashes and stabs, especially those from weapons with a flexible blade can struggle to pierce even thick clothing. I think on Matt Easton's channel, there's a video where he reads an account of a spadroon being completely ineffective against enemy soldiers because of their Winter coats. All that would be made way, way worse by having a blade on the end of a long, flexible rope.
If you were to have a heavy weight on the end of the rope it would mean that centrifugal force is gonna make it alot harder to control plus if you were to miss and attack or even mess up slightly it requires lot more effort and thus time to build that momentum back up. Overall it just seems like an ineffective weapon whether it has a heavy or light weight at the end. All that you have to do is close the distance or stop the momentum so simply blocking it, hitting it, them missing or rushing them down are all likely to work. Tbh I would rather have a large stick than one of these in a fight.
The weapon looks very impractical. It is too random and would be hard to use in tight spaces.
@@billhorst-kotter5184 it's random because they're morons who don't know how to use it. as for tight spaces you just take a shorter grip on the rope or dart/knife itself.
One of the big advantages of a rope dart is that it's really easy to put in your pocket
rope dart? Me: "first you had my attention, now you have my curiosity". XD
It was the other way around. "You had my curiosity, but now you have my attention."
@@clintonleonard5187 actually its "first you had my curiosity, now you have my erection"
Oh my Lord I love the humor you guys have while legitimately trying to learn things. When you were talking about how Jason had no clue what he was doing and he's just flailing around I lost it. Love the vid as always, you guys
My immediate thought to seeing this was to reset the injury counter
This video reminded me why I absolutely love this channel.
For a second I read it as "Exploding Rope Darts" and I was like "Yeah, that's par for the course for these guys" xD
Scorpion with glasses, jeans and flip flops 'shouting' 'Go away, bad guys' ^^
Never change, Brian, never change :)
Lmfao, Brian's fascination with Ben Wa balls is killing me.
When I was in karate for a short while in college, my sensei used to do this before and after class and he would use both a practice and bladed one. He we really precise with it, while probably not as effective as using any other martial weapon, he really made it seem like you didnt want to be with in 15 feet of him and being on his wrong side
"Go ahead, do some stuff" *smacks himself*
The rope dart/meteor hammer is a very “don’t get close or you’ll either get impaled or a cracked skull” weapon, you can also use it up close by choking the weapon and using the extra rope to restrain
Lemme help you out:
"Oldschool Bootlickers."
I was having a really crappy day but watching this channel has yet to fail in boosting my mood immensely x
My personal test for "is it a functional weapon" is this. If you had that and I had a wooden chair and just came at you who wins?
Solid test
Chair-man the greatest superhero of all time.....
this is dependent on the "you" someone who knows what they are doing with that youd not get close to them at all
@@LokiKeanu Tbh, this rope dart is trash. The blade cant really hurt you, unless it hits your eyes. Only with the momentum it just doesnt have enough power to heavily injure you. You just need your jacket and a knife to beat this weapon rapier-n-cloak-style.
XD good test
I love how you guys work together. Gives me a real mythbusters vibe except you guys actually like each other.
One of my favorite weapons! Horrible execution,😂but yes. The constant motion is about energy and defense, but the "wraps" are also used to redirect the dart. One of my favorite rope dart scenes is the "horseshoe" fight with Jackie Chan in Shanghai Noon. Its pretty cool.
Is it a practical weapon? ...well, a spork in the right hands can be deadly.
The rope dart is not really "practical" in this day and age, but the ability to trap and redirect staffs and spears in 700 AD? I'm sure it had its uses, but nowadays its fun to watch and a blast to learn!
I like to think there was a fight in history where someone was doing some flurries with a rope dart, someone threw something at them, and then they stabbed themselves after they flinched.
Nice reference. Or Jet Li in "Romeo Must Die" with the fire hose.
I can't see this working in a battlefield situation. Assuming you have multiple rope dart casters, trying to use this in a formation against another formation of troops is gonna end badly for the rope darte wielders.
@@Gearhead49d definitely seems like more of a one on one weapon
It was a last ditch weapon. It was something you could hide under your clothes to keep in reserve in case your spear broke and you didn't have a sword.
From what I understand (keep in mind I am by no means a master of anything), all that balletic stuff is about being able to recover and reissue the dart when it is knocked away or has struck someone. It's less about making it more deadly and more about not getting hit by it yourself. So once you can fully manipulate it, you can then recover it when using it in a fight. Think this was actually shown in Kill Bill volume 2.
This one time, a guy robbed my house, since I watched this video a bit before I had already purchased my very own rope dart, and started practicing, so when the robber broke in.....
I accidentally grabbed my cardboard target, got shot twice in the knee with his gun, then cried.
What the actual hell are you talking about?
@@Sheridantank Its a true story about how someone broke into my house and using this video I got shot and felt dumb
7:02
Not only did you succeed to make Brian flinch,
I did also 🤣
As a practitioner of ropedart, this pains me to watch. Good video though, these were most typically defensive weapons, sorta a tricky thing to fight against when its all coiled up like a snake. The dart end goes through the dominant hand with slack held in the non dominant. The dart end goes out the pinky side and can be spun forward or backward. (I am self taught so dont take this with a grain of salt)
Seconded
I am not a practitioner, and it still pains me to watch.
Yeah, most anything they've ever done is pretty much an insult to anyone who knows what they're doing in any particular subject.
But, that part of why it's funny to watch imo.
So far the only thing I've seen either of them speak knowledgeably about is comics, movie quotes, and fire eating/magic (Brian)
@@jakezanders6598 Hey, Jason picked up fire eating at a bizarrely fast pace
yes, this is a very practical weapon. it was meant to be carried long distance for concealed self defense. the reason you wrap it around your body in different ways, is kind of like the purpose of an engine- converting the rotational spinning into a lateral strike. the point of the "flower" is to distract the enemy, the cloth was placed a foot or so behind the blade itself; it's purpose was to trick the enemy into thinking the blade itself was further away than it truly was. the point of keeping it moving is not to create any sort of force field, as much as it is to conserve and recycle energy. the rope dart, as you said, is absolutely beautiful in slow motion; if you slo-mo in front of the dart the cloth will flare up and it's really pretty.
Last time i was this early my gf got mad.
Nice...well not for her. But still..... nice
Better than her getting mad that she finished and you didnt.
"Aren't you done yet?"
The twining parts are not only conservation of energy but also how you redirect that energy around you.
P.s. The pointy (ball) part should never actually touch you. The first technique to learn is the elbow wrap redirect. Not too hard and it looks cool.
Edit to say: Real easy to hit yourself in your own head though.
Next video: Learning to be an assassin in the late 1700’s
The Modern Rogues videos just keep getting better and better!
I love that Brian is like, "I'd rather have a big stick." The rope dart is designed entirely for disarming trained soldiers with swords and spears. If you come up on even an unskilled man with even a practice rope dart they can tie you up and knock you out in a single blow. Probably by accident too.
Evidence?
th-cam.com/video/s-pIjgvjPFo/w-d-xo.html ill just leave this here
@@fuckoff81747 "Rope darts" can be made with chain. Historical Shinobi could, just ropes, disarm trained Samurai. The wrong country yes, but the fact still stands. th-cam.com/video/T4meBZnP2c8/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=RoninDave A performance version of the technique can be seen here. Recorded in いが うえの (Iga-Ueno).
@@xray-bullet7914 Cool but wrong country. Love Skallagrim but his stuff is all HEMA. Typically Norse.
@@fuckoff81747 Whoa lay off, he commented in response to the statement about a big stick not being useful.
I just want to say thank you guys so much for filling the space of testing whatever you find fun like the Mythbusters. I missed the silly outlet of this kind of thing so badly.
first
really cool but i don't remember asking
There’s gonna be like 30 of u guys
I can't even believe this channel is well over a million subs (well I kind of can because it's awesome), I remember the first time on scam school when when they were like "so head on over to the modern rogue and check it out" or whatever. It had a few thousand subs at the time and it's come so insanely far since then. Hell I remember when scam school was at like 80k subs, wow time sure does fly - I pretty much grew up learning magic tricks from Brian's vids, and Jason is practically my spirit animal at this point lol.
Remember though, it is much more than the rope movement. In order to "capture" and continue the potential energy, your body needs to be fluid with the movement. Otherwise, like seen, you end up crushing yourself or losing that energy. This was a great feat of attempt I've seen from y'all. Had me laughing pretty hard.
This is maybe the best episode of The Modern Rogue ever.
amazing videos guys! ive been following you for a long time now n i love all the content! always gives me a laugh in a hard time... keep up the amazing work! :DD lotsa love from the netherlands
Rope dart is the hardest to learn of the Shaolin weapons. I've been training for about 5 years with a manriki made of steel and the amount of technique involved is no joke. Been doing staff knife and sword work for 15 years too. Rope dart just needs a lot of training to become capable
I feel like the main uses for this kind of weapon is either to have a mid-range weapon without the bulk of a polearm, or to make a surprisingly effective(though potentially self destructive) makeshift weapon out of stuff that everyone used to have around. It also has potential as a weapon that you could have carried into places that didn't also swords, or if you replace the dagger with a weight, then places that don't allow blades. I've gotta be honest though, I would still take a spear or a staff over one of those. As for looks, heck yeah it looks super cool.
12:08 Jason like the dad goblin peaking out from behind the chalkboard. im crying XD
OHMYGOSH! When Jason almost hogtied his own legs and took himself out! I am dying. One of the best Modern Rogue episodes!
My wife just figured it out... and I must say, I think I agree.... Brian is slowly turning into Adam Savage! Keep up the good work guys, we love the Modern Rogue!
and then I scroll down and see that other people have already pointed this out....
I trained in Hung Gar for 12 years before I busted my back at my regular job. The rope can be used to catch incoming arms, legs and weapons. The metal dart can be shot out quite accurately to a distance of around 20 feet. I used to practice against an old palm tree leaving 1 inch dents on the palm trunk. The rope dart punctures very well and the praticioner must have control when shooting and reeling the dart back in (my shin can attest to it). It's weapon brother, the meteor hammer is a solid metal almost ball like.. it was designed to destroy bones. Both were great, easily concealed weapons.
12:30 has me dying. Showed it to several friends without context and they might be hooked on this channel now
I did not watch this at 2 am to be reminded of AP physics with all Brian's science talk but dangit, this is worth it
My favorite form of this weapon is something I came up with myself. If you take a rope with a loop in one end and a weight/knife at the other end, as long as your forearm, you can use it exactly as nunchucks. I usually have my keys or a short knife on the end of it. Keeping the weapon in motion lets you react faster to any attack.
It sounds like you're describing poi. Before they became a flow-toy they were a real Polynesian weapon.
This is perfect they’re like a tamer version of my family. I just spent half of the night letting my dad and my family friend shoot bottle rockets at me why I wore my helmet .
This needs a pt2 “Exploding rope darts” please (:
after watching this i realised this is truly the best show on youtube
Ok to me, the best part of the your videos is listening and watching you two start opening your minds, if that makes sense? I love the practicality and not so much, thought process you guts do, it makes me think about the current project a lot more too!!!! Ive watched that girls fire rope dart videos before and like you said it looks amazing but in battle is it practical. Then when you freaked out just sticking the sword in, it made me think.......if a Army is running in to battle and approach a few people spinning fire around and launching it at them....i mean the fear had to be real?! Especially considering the time of when these would be used right?
I love how Dave has a fucking bandage on his face from when the Atlatl hit it square in the cheek, that's fucking perfect
I learned to use one ages ago. But I've not practiced in about 12yrs. That said, when i saw the title i figured you guys would be comically learning to use one or comically try and maybe reset the counter.
Says "Line" enough times to get the proper response of...
"No more dad jokes"
🤣🤣 coming from the 2 best internet dads ever🤣🤣
Ahh man, I haven't watched this channel for a while and now Brian's starting to look the part of a Mythbuster
I am so glad they didn't have to reset the injury counter!
These guys have serious Adam Savage and Jamie Hyneman vibes and I'm into it.
Y'all channeled the Star Wars kid pretty hard on this one. Approved.
Been waiting for this! Great vid as usual
Oh, the first-pass edit of this will be GOLD
I did a whip chain form for my 1st black belt test, and I cranked myself in the face once training for it. I don’t remember it happening, I just remember doing the form, and then everybody was huddled around me on the floor. These things are no joke.
From what I've seen from people who can do this quite well, when you're wrapping it around a part of your body, you don't want it wrapping too much.
When I first saw Brian and Jason when I watching Hacking the System at Nat Geo, I thought they were the most intelligent people I've ever seen.
Thanks to the Modern Rogue, I've seen that they are just a couple of goofballs in a garage and I love them more. I'm glad I watched Hacking the System and I'm glad I rediscovered them on this TH-cam channel.
I love that you brought back "Go away bad guy!"
Easy solution. Get a pike (essentially a 10-20 ft/ 3-6m spear just in case you didn't know), stick it in the wall of spinning death, and just let the rope dart tangle itself up and then either the person with the rope dart can yank the pike out of your hand like a lasso while the pike is towards them essentially letting them impale themselves thinking they were smart OR they don't do that and you stick em with the pointy end anyways.
The Akban channel is great for stuff like this. I study Ninjutsu and rope, chain and Kusari training is always good
Oh this reminds me of using scarves to defend yourself in Kali (please correct me if the martial art is wrong, I studied a few things at once)
Very impractical but in the exact correct circumstance and the correct context can be super useful
Edit: I recognize that if you're wearing the standard loop scarf and fighting a knife wielder it is useful, but...you know.... normal practicality
Modern rogue is the GOAT
More and more quarantine is making me want to work on my modern Rogue skills anyways love your ancient Chinese skippit it’s very cool