If you're friendly with the Cenarion Circle, you can buy the pattern for Ironvine Belt which can grant you relatively easily skill ups all the way up to 330 (where it then turns green) from 300. The materials for it are incredibly cheap and will save you a ton more gold than make imperial plate gear.
If you are not BS now wait for tbc to come out or atleast pre patch. In tbc the amount of thorium required until 300 is way less and the mats change (for example the star ruby isnt needed anymore) For 300-320 check out the Enchanted Thorium Blades. They go from 300-320 and are cheap classic mats
2:53 I thought this amount of thorium sounded low. You say to craft 25 bracers. At 20 thorium for each craft.... that is 500x Thorium bars you need. Not 360.
I wanted to ask if u need to be the specific spec to wield the weps. Lets say i start as sword smith to make lionheart then swap to make the dragon maces, will i be able to wield my sword? Or is it better to choose one and replace the other slot with arena weapons?
You need to be the proper spec to equip the weapon - so Swordsmithing for the Sword, Hammersmithing for the maces. You can swap specs for a 150g fee in Everlook though. What is better depends on what you're prioritizing in the game, PvE or PvP. If your guild doesn't care too much about PvE and is primarily a PvP guild, they might let you skate by with Hammersmithing. Otherwise, you can start off with Swords and use it until you get the Twinblade of the Phoenix from KT in Phase 2 and then switch to Hammersmithing for Deep Thunder/Stormherald.
Worst error is not getting scryer to level up BS from 360-375. Scryer recipes have super cheap materials and as as a bonus also cheaper rep items. You may miss out on a good offhand to your mace, BUT its not BiS anyways
325-335 is not 10 adamantite bars, because lesser rune of warding becomes green to craft at 230...i crafted 5 and didn't get skill...its pain when people don't tripple check when they make guides like this where investments are insanely big....1 adamantite bar is 3g each on my server...
Same with Lesser ward of shielding 340-350 , your guide says 10 adamantite bars, but craft turns green on 345, so it takes between 8-10 crafts for me to get another 5 skill....awful
leveling a bloodelf paladin with blacksmithing really feels bad atm, I rarely get an item I can use and it gets swapped out quickly, while the jewelcrafters seem to get alot more stuff :(
Yes this is an issue that I'm worried about and not many people seem to be talking about. I want to main my warrior for both PvE and PvP, and would gladly go arms in raid if it didn't basically force me to be a swordsmith for multiple phases if I want to have my optimal weapon. If there's some kind of workaround that doesn't require me to drop and relearn the profession for every upgrade to my sword and mace, I'd love to hear it
You have two options if you plan to pve and pvp on yours arms warrior 1) focus on pve, and go swordsmithing - this limits you to playing arena with a shaman to be optimal 2) focus on pvp, and go macesmithing. Hope that your guild is either okay with you raiding with stormherald (keep in mind, your dps will be quite a bit lower than a swordsmith arms) or try to find a guild that let's you raid as fury (1h maces are bis for pve, so you can make them for pve, and stormherald for pvp)
cant find a good answer about this. im currently armor smith in classic can i pay to gold to a npc to change to wep smith in tbc? like the other professions
You missed the radiant leggings and the enchanted thorium blades recipes to get from 300 to 335 with old mats, which is significantly cheaper and faster
yeah that fact kinda puts me off of this video as it seems a bit rushed imo when there are such easy options like you listed above, but everyone will favor their own way of leveling i suppose
Not sure why this guide only mentions warriors and rogues as if they are the only classes that can do melee dps. Enhancement Shaman also favor Blacksmithing. Also not sure why it says regardless Axe specialization isn’t any good. Again wrong. If you’re an Orc Enhancement Shaman specifically The Planar Edge weapon path is = to if not better than Drake fist Hammer for Orcs due to passive Axe specialization. Bretty tested this recently on TBC Classic. Doing 5 runs with each weapon otherwise everything else identical and taking the average across all runs for each weapon. For Orc Enhancement Shaman the axe beat the mace everytime. Both are fine as the mace is still insanely good and haste scales better as the expansion goes on for enhancement shamans but axe specialization isn’t worthless/not worth mentioning. Otherwise it’s a nice guide, just don’t understand why it only mentions rogues and warriors when Enhancement Shaman can do just as much damage on top of buffing the shit out of everyone else. Currently on TBC Clsssic in raid logs Enhancement is doing insanely well. Already doing over 1200 dps in Kara boss fights.
No, no and no. Do NOT do the Imperial armor. From from 350 - 360 do "Dense Sharpening Stones". Dense stone is cheap compared to Thorium bars. From 360-380 do the Thorium bracers and then do the Thorium Boots from 280-300. You'll need rugged leather for that but you should be able to buy that cheap also (unless you have a skinner and then you can just farm them) - and it is cheaper than Star ruby because ppl already know this will be valuable for JC. This is the best, fastest and cheapest way to reach 300. Buy the recipies of the AH now. I've leveled multiple characters to 300 BS. I know what I'm talking about.
those guides manipulate numbers buy not taking in consideration when the recipe turns yellow and you might not get skills, they dont take in consideration the thorium cost to buy recipes etc
from 275-300 its beter to craft thorium shield spike you need vey lesser thorium and you can sell them for a profit iven in tbc. from 275 to 300 i buy evry mats i need en i earn gold from it
FUCKIN FAKE PHONY!!!!!! GOOD LUCK BUYING THE PLANS FOR 300 GOLD OR FARMING THEM AT A LESS THAN 1% DROP RATE!!!!!! EVEN IF YOU BUY THE PLANS GOODLUCK ON BUYING THE ESSENCE OF EARTH FOR 5 GOLD FOR ONE
How is this ULTIMATE BS guide for WARRIORS if you don't even touch on Deep Thunder mace for pvp? Jesus man...really noone on the entire youtube out of all content creators remembered how important this is going into tbc pvp?
If you're friendly with the Cenarion Circle, you can buy the pattern for Ironvine Belt which can grant you relatively easily skill ups all the way up to 330 (where it then turns green) from 300. The materials for it are incredibly cheap and will save you a ton more gold than make imperial plate gear.
Great tip, thank you!
god damnit lol
If you are not BS now wait for tbc to come out or atleast pre patch. In tbc the amount of thorium required until 300 is way less and the mats change (for example the star ruby isnt needed anymore) For 300-320 check out the Enchanted Thorium Blades. They go from 300-320 and are cheap classic mats
Stock up on the mats and wait for TBC to arrive seems like the plan. Any bars left over will probably sell for a ton with people racing to max BS
fuck.... wish I read this earlier, I was slaving away lol
You do NOT have to do the Dungeon Quest anymore, just the Weaponsmith Quest with the 12x Weapons to hand in
where is the weapon smith quest?
I thought that in 2.4.3 sword spec procs no longer triggered windfury effect? Isn't is just normal hits and heroic strike/cleave
Thanks alot for this video, so helpful!
You didn't mention hammersmithing for pvp at all?
Do we need to do the dungeon quests in TBC? I want to swap from axesmith to swordsmith but not sure if I should just wait for the expansion launch.
You can swap now by just talking to the NPCs in Everlook!
@@Marrow_WoW They're asking me to do a quest in a dungeon still. Was just wondering if they got removed in TBC?
2:53
I thought this amount of thorium sounded low. You say to craft 25 bracers. At 20 thorium for each craft.... that is 500x Thorium bars you need. Not 360.
The mats dropped with the pre patch down to 12 thorium each
I wanted to ask if u need to be the specific spec to wield the weps. Lets say i start as sword smith to make lionheart then swap to make the dragon maces, will i be able to wield my sword? Or is it better to choose one and replace the other slot with arena weapons?
You need to be the proper spec to equip the weapon - so Swordsmithing for the Sword, Hammersmithing for the maces. You can swap specs for a 150g fee in Everlook though.
What is better depends on what you're prioritizing in the game, PvE or PvP. If your guild doesn't care too much about PvE and is primarily a PvP guild, they might let you skate by with Hammersmithing. Otherwise, you can start off with Swords and use it until you get the Twinblade of the Phoenix from KT in Phase 2 and then switch to Hammersmithing for Deep Thunder/Stormherald.
Worst error is not getting scryer to level up BS from 360-375. Scryer recipes have super cheap materials and as as a bonus also cheaper rep items. You may miss out on a good offhand to your mace, BUT its not BiS anyways
Did u see the. Guy Standing on top of the pitlord pillar on the right side?
finnaly a straight answerm, cheers
Great Guide! Can you switch from Armorsmithing to Hammer Smithing?
i was wondering about the same thing
Unfortunately not :( if you want to switch from Armorsmithing to Weaponsmithing you need to drop BS and re-level it up.
@@Marrow_WoW yiiiiikes!
@Marrow - that's not true. You can switch specializations for a fee of 100 gold
@@Kirbstompd in classic? Haven’t seen anything like that
so... 695 thorium bars are cheaper then some fel iron bars? I pay allmost 800g for this much thorium on my server
yeah literally
Khorium Belt from 360-370 and Felsteel Helmet for the rest.
325-335 is not 10 adamantite bars, because lesser rune of warding becomes green to craft at 230...i crafted 5 and didn't get skill...its pain when people don't tripple check when they make guides like this where investments are insanely big....1 adamantite bar is 3g each on my server...
Same with Lesser ward of shielding 340-350 , your guide says 10 adamantite bars, but craft turns green on 345, so it takes between 8-10 crafts for me to get another 5 skill....awful
leveling a bloodelf paladin with blacksmithing really feels bad atm, I rarely get an item I can use and it gets swapped out quickly, while the jewelcrafters seem to get alot more stuff :(
Yeah unfortunately BS doesn't really give you anything cool/good until past 300, when you get to the TBC goodies :(
am i useless now as armorsmith or can i also swap into a weaponsmith/hammersmith?
think u gonna have to level from scratch again rip
cool guide but u forgot to say that stormherald is bis for pvp so if u plan on pvping as arms then u should go macesmithing
Yes this is an issue that I'm worried about and not many people seem to be talking about. I want to main my warrior for both PvE and PvP, and would gladly go arms in raid if it didn't basically force me to be a swordsmith for multiple phases if I want to have my optimal weapon. If there's some kind of workaround that doesn't require me to drop and relearn the profession for every upgrade to my sword and mace, I'd love to hear it
You have two options if you plan to pve and pvp on yours arms warrior
1) focus on pve, and go swordsmithing - this limits you to playing arena with a shaman to be optimal
2) focus on pvp, and go macesmithing. Hope that your guild is either okay with you raiding with stormherald (keep in mind, your dps will be quite a bit lower than a swordsmith arms) or try to find a guild that let's you raid as fury (1h maces are bis for pve, so you can make them for pve, and stormherald for pvp)
@@kiirbstomp If you plan on raiding aswell as pvping, just go mace spec.
Imperial plate boots only need 18 Thorium Bars, nothing more
To be clear, are you saying that in classic TBC you don't have to do the Master Sword/Mace-smith quest lines that you have to do in classic vanilla?
yes you have to do the classic vanilla weaponsmith the you choose either sword or mace smith in tbc
It’s important to remember when you upgrade the crafter weapons, you have to enchant them again so make sure you plan for that.
Very true, good callout!
tho it's probs gonna take you soo long to get the next version anyways lmao xD
@@Zinkx. But i would defenetly get it so soon it would be my flightpath and repair g included :P
Fel steel is hard to get =(
cant find a good answer about this. im currently armor smith in classic can i pay to gold to a npc to change to wep smith in tbc? like the other professions
We just found out that you can, actually!
github.com/magey/tbc-warrior/issues/38
Awesome guide ty!
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
You missed the radiant leggings and the enchanted thorium blades recipes to get from 300 to 335 with old mats, which is significantly cheaper and faster
yeah that fact kinda puts me off of this video as it seems a bit rushed imo when there are such easy options like you listed above, but everyone will favor their own way of leveling i suppose
@@teepo8647 And he doesn't even mention the weapon specialisation quests in Stratholme, and whether they are the same in classic or removed in TBC.
"only" 6 and 8 felsteel bars...just go farm them? the random drop you mean? :D
Not sure why this guide only mentions warriors and rogues as if they are the only classes that can do melee dps. Enhancement Shaman also favor Blacksmithing. Also not sure why it says regardless Axe specialization isn’t any good. Again wrong. If you’re an Orc Enhancement Shaman specifically The Planar Edge weapon path is = to if not better than Drake fist Hammer for Orcs due to passive Axe specialization. Bretty tested this recently on TBC Classic. Doing 5 runs with each weapon otherwise everything else identical and taking the average across all runs for each weapon. For Orc Enhancement Shaman the axe beat the mace everytime. Both are fine as the mace is still insanely good and haste scales better as the expansion goes on for enhancement shamans but axe specialization isn’t worthless/not worth mentioning. Otherwise it’s a nice guide, just don’t understand why it only mentions rogues and warriors when Enhancement Shaman can do just as much damage on top of buffing the shit out of everyone else. Currently on TBC Clsssic in raid logs Enhancement is doing insanely well. Already doing over 1200 dps in Kara boss fights.
I didnt understand why he would say that hammersmith would be the best pick if we are dual wielding.
ty my lord
No, no and no. Do NOT do the Imperial armor. From from 350 - 360 do "Dense Sharpening Stones". Dense stone is cheap compared to Thorium bars. From 360-380 do the Thorium bracers and then do the Thorium Boots from 280-300. You'll need rugged leather for that but you should be able to buy that cheap also (unless you have a skinner and then you can just farm them) - and it is cheaper than Star ruby because ppl already know this will be valuable for JC. This is the best, fastest and cheapest way to reach 300. Buy the recipies of the AH now. I've leveled multiple characters to 300 BS. I know what I'm talking about.
dense sharpening stones?
Your Content Are Awesome i Mean I like It
Thanks, glad you're enjoying it!
uhmmmm ur saying to get from 255-315 in blacksmithing we need 1220 thorium bars? this is way way higher then any other guide
those guides manipulate numbers buy not taking in consideration when the recipe turns yellow and you might not get skills, they dont take in consideration the thorium cost to buy recipes etc
marrow i didnt see this video in my sub feed please forgive me
you are forgiven smolboat
As a HUMAN MALE I think this helped me understand why BLACKSMITHING is the way to go in the future of WORLD OF WARCRAFT: THE BURNING CRUSADE CLASSIC.
Is Male your class?
@@johncurry7225 YES. I selected MALE at the CHARACTER CREATION SCREEN.
the rubys are not required anymore
Hammers for pvp
Not the one handers
u dont need all this thorium. all this is cheaper in tbc you should change this
11minutes? Oo
from 275-300 its beter to craft thorium shield spike you need vey lesser thorium and you can sell them for a profit iven in tbc. from 275 to 300 i buy evry mats i need en i earn gold from it
FUCKIN FAKE PHONY!!!!!! GOOD LUCK BUYING THE PLANS FOR 300 GOLD OR FARMING THEM AT A LESS THAN 1% DROP RATE!!!!!! EVEN IF YOU BUY THE PLANS GOODLUCK ON BUYING THE ESSENCE OF EARTH FOR 5 GOLD FOR ONE
I THINK ILL JUST HAVE FUN AND USE DROPS
How is this ULTIMATE BS guide for WARRIORS if you don't even touch on Deep Thunder mace for pvp? Jesus man...really noone on the entire youtube out of all content creators remembered how important this is going into tbc pvp?
Axes are better for orc fury
axes only gives some expertise in TBC, its better to go swords specialization for the sword talent.
@@Temuldjin you are right about the expertise, but he said fury. Maces are much better for fury. The one hander sword is awful