Me too, plus after all the years of watching people come and go on TH-cam with the same things Marco has managed to show me new ways in the hobby I've never seen before.
Hello I am a fairly recent subscriber here but i was delighted to see this video. I learnt to paint in the 1990's and this is exactly the method i have always used. Acrylics were fairly new and were only considered good for undercoats back then. I still have and use my original set of windsor and Newton paints. I have about 20 tubes and have never needed more and won't for years to come. On my pallet i only put dots of paint with a wooden toothpick this is often enough but not always. So they are also the most economic paints available. And yes, i have painted hundreds of minis, though mostly in 54mm not for wargaming. Realy enjoying your work. All the best.
No idea where you got the idea acrylic paints were terrible even in the late 90’s?!? I’m baffled by that, professional artists have been using high quality acrylic paints for decades… they have certainly become much easier to use in recent years and even cheaper acrylics work very well where as in the past you had to spend a pretty decent amount to get any acrylic of decent quality. My mom has been an acrylic artist who works on board, canvas, metal, and paper since the mid 70’s and her old work still looks great. I’m pretty sure one of the most respected galleries in Canada wouldn’t be exhibiting her work for the last 4/5 decades if her use of acrylics was seen as of poor quality and unprofessional. She does say they are harder to work with, but she prefers the speed at which acrylics allow one to work as a huge benefit…But acrylics sure are less fussy then they used to be that’s for sure! So I’m just a bit confused by your comment… maybe you could clarify just in case I’m misunderstanding something here…
I learned the phrase "wet on wet" as an oil paint terminology (long before learning about acrylics) by watching Bob Ross with my Dad when I was little.
I can’t get my head around this one, I’m watching you putting the paint on then wiping it off and in no time at all it’s absolutely stunning. I can’t understand it.
Marco I love how you are breaking the unspoken rules of miniature painting showcasing different mediums. After oils and spray-cans I am almost expecting you to drop a "watercolor/gouache painting for miniatures" anytime now!
My favorite is watching other youtubers saying "i never thin my paints" and "i never use washes or glazes" then praising GW Contrast Paints. I'm always thinking "clearly they never watch Marco"
Love it. Would like to see something similar with the inks. By the way, for those who love the grim-dark looks check the "28 magazine". Only 3 numbers at the moment but free and with an amazing quality.
It's a fantastic magazine, but I'm desperate to get it as a hard copy which I can hold in my hands! The artwork and photos are too good to view on a screen.
Now You made me want to try to paint in oil... i have to grab a nice barbarian modell with lots of skintone :D (Thaks for these suuuuper instructional Videos. Keep up the great work.)
Love Kingdom Death models, thanks for featuring them occasionally. GW models are everywhere and I tire of the style. You gave me the courage to finally try oils by the way.Thanks!
It looks like a much more enjoyable and artistic way to paint models. The GW method almost becomes like a chore or painting by numbers. This method looks like something I could really get into. Thank you!
I´ve started painting my first miniature entirely in oils. You have been an huge inspiration for me, to consider oils. Together with Vince Venturella and James Wappel. All starting with your textured space marine :D (witch im definetly gonna do my self!) Thank you.
@@FUCKUTUBEFUCKGPLUS Wappel is indeed worth checking out. He has over 500 hours of video content on his Patreon, and tons of recent stuff on his Twitch/TH-cam channel you can check out for free. Vince/Wappel/Miniac/and Marco are probably my favorite contributors to the hobby as a whole.
It's so refreshing to see a miniature painter that does something different than just citadel paints, base coat+wash+highlights. You've inspired me (a complete noob) to start blending my own mixes (which is really useful since I don't own many paints) and maybe trying out oils in the future. Thanks!
As someone who has just started on this oil painting minis journey, I'd say don't worry about the cost of materials. 30 UK pounds bought me ten 37ml tubes of winton oil paint (from which basically any shade could be created by mixing) and a bottle of artist's odour free spirit (and hardware store spirit is apparently fine, so I overspent). Buying a certain well know brand of acrylics, the same amount of money wouldn't even get you five 12ml pots. Now, I just have to learn to paint! 😆 Your vids are great, you're so happy. Is it something in the fumes? 😉
Hello. I like very much your videos. Quesiton. Do You have a vídeo with oil paint applied with airbrush. Or is it no use/ crazy. Thanks . Salute from México. .
Hi! Thanks a million man ☺️! Not, for the moment 😉 You can easily use oils in the airbrush but in general blending with the brush is so quick and easy that you don't feel the need to switch tools. Plus spraying white spirit needs a ton of serious precautions!
| tfw ywn play a complete Kingdom Death Monster campaign with Marco on his fully painted board using award-winning models | tfw KDM is too expensive to justify $300 of unpainted models sitting around your house so you will never paint this model yourself Life is truly suffering. Why must you taunt us so? q_q
Hey Marco, do you have Tipps how to seal oil paints the correct way? A model of mine was exposed to too much light and the color totally changed. Is there a way to turn it back or seal future projects?
You'll have a lot of fun! Oils are not aggressive on brushes but their solvent (mostly used for cleaning) can be heavy on natural bristles in the first experiments when you tend to use it as water, so I suggest to start with cheap synthetic brushes
Watching now. Was watching something else, Marco will always get preference. BTW, Marco. I got my Kimeras finally, straight from Pegaso. Was hilarious as they came wrapped in Italian newspaper. They have/had 100 slots. My box had my name inside it, so they clearly had boxes ready and marked them as orders came in. :) I love small business style stuff like this. She's gorgeous. Pretty much perfect Artemis Wonder Woman. Diana lost the mantle to her and she was a redhead. :)
Hi Marco, not sure if you've answered this elsewhere already but what are the small racks you use at the start of the painting to hold your citadel paint pots open? Looks 3d printed but I can't find similars on my own!
Hi! A friend made the holders during his first experiments with filament printing a couple years ago; if I remember correctly he modified a file from Thingiverse
Marco, man you have upped my painting game. Question good sir, I have some Windsor and Newton oils and 1 tube of abteilung 502 black. Would you suggest buying more abteilung or stick with the Winton series?
😁 Awesome! Abteilung paints are nothing special in general, just a bit less oily but it's not such a big game changer in my opinion. You can totally stick to W&N. What I really like of the Abteilung line are specific tones for weathering that can be extremely glossy (bitumen for example) or extremely mat (rust and dust tones)
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM I'm going to post some pics on the Facebook group. I watched your blanchitsu style video and ran out and bought thar fig and a ton of new mediums.
I have seen other painters apply their acrylic undertones then varnish them before starting in with the oils. Is this something you do as well or is it a matter of taste and/or paranoia? 😄
Oil paints and white spirit don't interact chemically with the layer of water based paint underneath so varnish is not mandatory but it can used to modulate the impact of oils over the acrylic layer; mat varnish absorbs more paint grabbing it in its microscopic rough finish while satin and gloss varnishes let the paint flow better for smoother blends. 99% of the time I don't use varnish!
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM Will do so! Thank you so much :) I ordered the Artists Set, ne Brushes and some White Spirits. Can't wait to get startet, although I hope I'm not missing anything.
"The final quality is quite superior" So if you had the exact same model and did your best paint job with acrylics (and/or used the same amount of time), and put the figures side by side.... Could we see that, perhaps? =)
The only issue is that only oil paints make smooth blends. All the washes and tricks we use with acrylic paints are to try to get closer to the oil blends, but side by side, the oils really make the acrylic look bad.
I started the oils about a month ago after watching james wappel (you should check out his channel if you want to learn more about oils on minis) and I will tell you that, hands down, the oils are faster. Not a little faster either. They're a *lot* faster. At least for any paint job more nuanced than the ol' paint by numbers and dip. There is a learning curve but once you get over that, you get silky smooth blends with a minimum of effort. You do need to understand paint mixing and color wheel theory to get best results though. The only caveat is that the drying times are longer. That's an advantage in that it's precisely what allows you to do such effortless smooth blends, but it is a disadvantage when you actually need to let something dry before moving on. For the most part, I'll pretty much paint a whole mini from start to finish in the span of a couple of hours and let them sit on the shelf for a week or so to make 100% sure they're fully dry before clear coating.
Really great Vid, thank you for sharing! But Marco - What do you do after the model is panted? How long do you leave it to totally dry? Is this a display model only technique and not for gaming? How is the best way to varnish it if you do want to use it for gaming? ... Would really appreciate if you can advise what you do next Keep up the great Channel!
Thanks a million! The model is completely dry in 24/48 hours depending on the layer of paint used. You don't need to varnish because oils harden in an extremely resistant and waterproof film (that's why we have so many centuries old paintings in museums 😉). I always use oils in my gaming models 😊. Check the oils playlist; I explain everything in those videos!
Hi, I have a question, could I use oil paints mixed with army painter speed paints or will they not mix, as I have never used oil paints before, cheers.
You can't mix them (being oil based they are not compatible with water and water based paints) but when dry you can overlap and layer them for amazing effects!
when u started i was like wow the mini looked great. then you hit the ugly duckling phase. where you think you totally screwed up the mini and have to start over. Then as you work BAM! you have a well done mini once again. it is sometimes so hard to not over paint something at that ugly phase or give up hope thinking you screwed it up. Every day is a new lesson from you once again well done!
As usual your work is amazing and inspiring ...question.... instead of glass with a white sheet underneath or painted white could you use a white ceramic tile etc....?
Marco what pushes your decision to work in a specific medium on a piece? Like most acrylic pieces I’ve been adding some work in oil but haven’t found “the model” to do all in oils. Would you say that the best place to start in a full oil piece would be something with large flat areas or something more like what you did here with a good mix of everything?
For me oils gives their best painting skins and organic materials, so I tend to use them in subjects with these kind of elements especially if they have to be delicate and smooth. For female characters 99% of the times I use oils!
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM Awesome, I think I will be trying on bust or 75mm model to start out. Ended up buying oils to match pigment of all the colours of the Kimera set so I'm very excited to see how you utilise oils.
Great video. But I wish you'd explain a bit more @4:38. Which colours you are mixing and ratio. I am considering buying abteilung 502 for my 28mm historicals and would like to get familiar with the technical stuff of the paints and effects. Particularly the skin effect you achieved. Thank you.
I've tried my hand at oils several time. I love using them! Still not even close to your mastery of it, but I enjoy how smooth and easy you make it look lol!
Thanks for this video Marco ! I hope there will be more oily content like this one ! ^^ Anyway, I'll jump in oil paint for a project i'm working on at the time (figurine but bigger scale) so thanks again for those nice advices !
Hi Marco, what's the best brushes to use for the oil paints? And what's the best way to clean and look after them ? Love the channel, thanks a million 🙂
Thanks for this useful tutorial. Just bought some Windsor & Newton Artisan Water Mixable Oil Paints and accoutrements. Do you have any experience with water mixable oil paints?
Plot twist: Marco is employed by the oil painting guild... or something like that :D (there is no such thing, this is a joke). You are really winning me over with wanting to try oil paints!
excellent video! Following this (and a visit to the art store), I've tried oil washes on some boardgame coin tokens and they looked amazing, but need to remember room ventilation next time :) Next, will try some of these techniques, and their application to OSL, on Tainted Grail's Menhirs!!! Thanks man, would have never tried this without your guidance!
Wow this is on a whole other level than the edge highlighted space marines you see all the time on youtube (which are impressive in their own right!). Your choice and control of colors gives it a warm and vibrant Boris Vallejo feel.
I started using oils (burnt umber, ivory black and I treated myself to violet winsor purple dioxazine. They are awesome. The capillary effect is mental. No coffee stains. Depending on the colour they are quite transparent. It's all your fault. hahaha
Amazing. Honestly speaking I am not ready for this yet. Still trying to work on techniques with acrylics. You are so much fun to watch as you give me techniques to work toward. Thank you
I'm a pretty new painter as well and honestly I wonder if it wouldn't have been easier to start with oils, they just make more intuitive sense in a way. If nothing else you could at least get a black or dark brown color and try an oil wash instead of a regular acrylic wash. They really add depth to the models.
Hey Marco! This video is awesome and I can't wait to try it on my next project. Quick question: You mention that you are applying the paint, and then pushing it with a clean, dry brush with no mineral spirits. Do you just use a new brush each time, or are you cleaning the brush with mineral spirits and drying it off in between? Is there any concern of leftover mineral spirits? Thanks for The video!
Have you tried Maimeri Classico oil range?, and if so, would you recommend just buying primary tones+b/w? I've been using their polycolor acrylic range for a while and I quite like the result the give me, and giving that the are produced by the same company and the pigments are the same, it's a bonus, but I noticed the primary tones are marked as transparent, and I don't know if they would give me problems
Marco... I never fail to learn new bits of technical knowledge watching you work. My creative brain loves you, but my wallet is starting to demand a restraining order, unless I can figure out how to get my colorblind self working purely in CMYK color mixing, before diving into yet another painting discipline...
Marco, with you fantastic skills and knowledge you completely turned my world of miniature painting! I only recently joined your channel and catching up. I have already tried oil washes - and I am a true believer now. I am trying to compile and buy a 'starter set'. Could you list the colours you used painting this model, please?
Marco can you talk about the tones and acrylics/oils you used for the skintone? I have trouble achieving subtle, realistic skin tones like you do. I generally work from a warm brown base (streaking grime over like a gulliman flesh) into an Abteilung basic flesh tone, then sunny skin and a bit of light flesh. It doesn’t come out as lifelike as yours always does! Thanks so much!
Where did you get those twin cups for rinsing? I’ve tried searching and can’t seem to find anything like them. And your videos are the best. I’m proud to support your Patreon!
I'm about to attempt using oil paints to add some shading to a large D&D blue dragon I'm working on right now and I admit it's daunting. But after watching this, even a hack like me can go for it, I think! Good show, Marco!
Great Marco. Thank you. I use like a pallette for oils just a square flat piece of white ceramic, which is very cheap and easy to find and I think more simple to clean and use with oils. :-)
Mr. Marco, When you are getting into the blending stage, do you find it easier to drag the lighter color into the darker color or the other way around? It's hard to tell your methods of blending with the speed and camera distance from the model on my android... Just curious as Im about to embark to the art store to get some oils and a little bigger model from the D&D line to experiment on before moving over to my 40k army. I've watched this three times now and am STOKED to give this a go.
great video as always!! :) one question, i always need a varnish gloos on acrilycs before use oil wash or paint with oils right? for :) so as not to damage the acrilyc paint. thx you man!
I just started painting minis with acrylic because that's what everyone said. So I can use both ? Acrylic for the main portions that require solid base colors and keeping the layer thin since oils are thick ? Then use oils for blends and stuff ? I am not sure if I should just switch over to oils completely?
I mean, that is fantastic. I am just cleaning out and setting up a new look to my hobby room (the attic) and I am buying all the oils etc to give it a try. If I had a question...it would be how to paint the cylinders and curved oval shapes you find on space marines and eldar. The flat panels have always defeated me as I can't work out what part should be highlighted and how etc. Thanks for your videos sir, they are fantastic!
Hi, before i start with oils i have a question that i never found on this or otherss videos, what is the finish of oils? Matt, satin or gloss? And do they cover in 1 coat? Since acrilic use 2 or 3 coats for some colors, even my scale75 artist paint usually without dilution (just humidity of wet pallet) can't cover in 1 coat except if really heavy
Love your videos! You're the reason I have added oils to my tool box, thanks for that. One issue I'm running into is (not sure how to explain this) "oil on oil". Basically I put down an acrylic base then oil wash on top of that. Then I add a different color on to that but I don't want to really disturb the wash later below. How do I avoid that?
I have a question... When I use oil paints, my model ends up a bit on the glossy side. What would you use to bring the gloss down without affecting the vribrancy of the color too much?
Non proprio il top. Abbastanza buoni per il modellismo, soprattutto perché nella linea ci sono colori per effetti specifici, ma i gli olii top sono quelli che trovi nei negozi di belle Arti
Hi, how do you know which colours to basecoat with (in this case Contrast) paint first? E.g. here you do yellow and red, but not a skin colour. In other videos I think you mentioned you only did dark colours?
Great video I keep on coming back to! Not everything made sense to me the first time I watched it but since then I ave tried oil paints several times and I think now I fully understand the process. It’s not difficult but hard to adjust to if you come from acrylic paints 😅
Amazing as always. All your videos are great but i have a crush on your oil paint videos. Stay safe and keep up the great work! Dont stress, we will stay here and wait for your content 😉
Wow just wow! I usually don't use oil paints or enamels because of the smell and strong odor. @Marco Are these types of oil paints strong in odor? I haven't used these artist grade ones. I have problems with the fumes from thinners and enamel (testors) paint and the panel linning ones for gundams they hurt my throat and head after a while and that's even with ventilation. I would hate to have to use a respirator for hours while painting. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated it.
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Not gon lie. You are by far my favorite mini painter on TH-cam.
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Me too, plus after all the years of watching people come and go on TH-cam with the same things Marco has managed to show me new ways in the hobby I've never seen before.
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Bro! im loving Marco, hes the best mini painter ive watched, he seems to look at mini painting in such a different but more understanding way.
Hello I am a fairly recent subscriber here but i was delighted to see this video. I learnt to paint in the 1990's and this is exactly the method i have always used. Acrylics were fairly new and were only considered good for undercoats back then. I still have and use my original set of windsor and Newton paints. I have about 20 tubes and have never needed more and won't for years to come. On my pallet i only put dots of paint with a wooden toothpick this is often enough but not always. So they are also the most economic paints available. And yes, i have painted hundreds of minis, though mostly in 54mm not for wargaming. Realy enjoying your work. All the best.
Thank you, interesting.
I've bought my oil paints, haven't tried yet. I'll try the toothpick method for sure.
No idea where you got the idea acrylic paints were terrible even in the late 90’s?!? I’m baffled by that, professional artists have been using high quality acrylic paints for decades… they have certainly become much easier to use in recent years and even cheaper acrylics work very well where as in the past you had to spend a pretty decent amount to get any acrylic of decent quality.
My mom has been an acrylic artist who works on board, canvas, metal, and paper since the mid 70’s and her old work still looks great.
I’m pretty sure one of the most respected galleries in Canada wouldn’t be exhibiting her work for the last 4/5 decades if her use of acrylics was seen as of poor quality and unprofessional.
She does say they are harder to work with, but she prefers the speed at which acrylics allow one to work as a huge benefit…But acrylics sure are less fussy then they used to be that’s for sure!
So I’m just a bit confused by your comment… maybe you could clarify just in case I’m misunderstanding something here…
My man, Marco, out here laying down some invaluable lessons. Especially helpful as I'm still learning the ropes. Thanks for the vid
I learned the phrase "wet on wet" as an oil paint terminology (long before learning about acrylics) by watching Bob Ross with my Dad when I was little.
I can’t get my head around this one, I’m watching you putting the paint on then wiping it off and in no time at all it’s absolutely stunning. I can’t understand it.
Marco I love how you are breaking the unspoken rules of miniature painting showcasing different mediums. After oils and spray-cans I am almost expecting you to drop a "watercolor/gouache painting for miniatures" anytime now!
😁😁😁 already done with gouache th-cam.com/video/pWojUQsVoKk/w-d-xo.html 😁😁😁 Thanks a million man!
My favorite is watching other youtubers saying "i never thin my paints" and "i never use washes or glazes" then praising GW Contrast Paints.
I'm always thinking "clearly they never watch Marco"
Your tutorials have changed my painting methods and given me back the fun that had left my hobby time. Thank you 😊
Love it. Would like to see something similar with the inks.
By the way, for those who love the grim-dark looks check the "28 magazine". Only 3 numbers at the moment but free and with an amazing quality.
It's a fantastic magazine, but I'm desperate to get it as a hard copy which I can hold in my hands! The artwork and photos are too good to view on a screen.
Now You made me want to try to paint in oil... i have to grab a nice barbarian modell with lots of skintone :D (Thaks for these suuuuper instructional Videos. Keep up the great work.)
For the next video I'd like to see "I airbrushed a squad with oil paints" ;-)
😁😂😁 I do it 😁 but spraying oils it's too messy and not really a game changer
Love Kingdom Death models, thanks for featuring them occasionally. GW models are everywhere and I tire of the style. You gave me the courage to finally try oils by the way.Thanks!
It looks like a much more enjoyable and artistic way to paint models. The GW method almost becomes like a chore or painting by numbers. This method looks like something I could really get into. Thank you!
That is very much my experience. Oil > Acrylics but I can see the point in mixing both + varnish for the ultimate experience
Ah nice, I. Been following since you started last year and always useful videos!
Amazing stuff!!! You are so awesome 🤘🏻 🤯
I´ve started painting my first miniature entirely in oils. You have been an huge inspiration for me, to consider oils. Together with Vince Venturella and James Wappel. All starting with your textured space marine :D (witch im definetly gonna do my self!)
Thank you.
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Marco and Vince are both amazing, and I'm definitely checking this Wappel guy if you find him worth mentioning in such company. Thanks for the tip!
@@FUCKUTUBEFUCKGPLUS Wappel is indeed worth checking out. He has over 500 hours of video content on his Patreon, and tons of recent stuff on his Twitch/TH-cam channel you can check out for free. Vince/Wappel/Miniac/and Marco are probably my favorite contributors to the hobby as a whole.
What varnish do you use on oils ? I tried my vallejo gloss finish to move to an oil wash, but I end up stripping it when I clean it with my cutip.
It's so refreshing to see a miniature painter that does something different than just citadel paints, base coat+wash+highlights. You've inspired me (a complete noob) to start blending my own mixes (which is really useful since I don't own many paints) and maybe trying out oils in the future. Thanks!
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I just finished my first model with only oils, and man! I'm so proud of it! Thanks for all the tips, they are really useful!
As someone who has just started on this oil painting minis journey, I'd say don't worry about the cost of materials.
30 UK pounds bought me ten 37ml tubes of winton oil paint (from which basically any shade could be created by mixing) and a bottle of artist's odour free spirit (and hardware store spirit is apparently fine, so I overspent). Buying a certain well know brand of acrylics, the same amount of money wouldn't even get you five 12ml pots.
Now, I just have to learn to paint! 😆
Your vids are great, you're so happy. Is it something in the fumes? 😉
Hello. I like very much your videos.
Quesiton. Do You have a vídeo with oil paint applied with airbrush. Or is it no use/ crazy. Thanks . Salute from México. .
Hi! Thanks a million man ☺️! Not, for the moment 😉 You can easily use oils in the airbrush but in general blending with the brush is so quick and easy that you don't feel the need to switch tools. Plus spraying white spirit needs a ton of serious precautions!
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Acrylics are a nightmare to control, oils seem much easier to blend.
| tfw ywn play a complete Kingdom Death Monster campaign with Marco on his fully painted board using award-winning models
| tfw KDM is too expensive to justify $300 of unpainted models sitting around your house so you will never paint this model yourself
Life is truly suffering. Why must you taunt us so? q_q
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Hey Marco, do you have Tipps how to seal oil paints the correct way? A model of mine was exposed to too much light and the color totally changed. Is there a way to turn it back or seal future projects?
Incredible as always! More Kingdom Death please! : D
Marco, I’m really enjoying your videos and slowly you’re convencing me to go oil paints! Question, what kind of brushes should I get?
You'll have a lot of fun! Oils are not aggressive on brushes but their solvent (mostly used for cleaning) can be heavy on natural bristles in the first experiments when you tend to use it as water, so I suggest to start with cheap synthetic brushes
Watching now. Was watching something else, Marco will always get preference. BTW, Marco. I got my Kimeras finally, straight from Pegaso. Was hilarious as they came wrapped in Italian newspaper. They have/had 100 slots. My box had my name inside it, so they clearly had boxes ready and marked them as orders came in. :) I love small business style stuff like this.
She's gorgeous. Pretty much perfect Artemis Wonder Woman. Diana lost the mantle to her and she was a redhead. :)
Hi Marco, not sure if you've answered this elsewhere already but what are the small racks you use at the start of the painting to hold your citadel paint pots open? Looks 3d printed but I can't find similars on my own!
Hi! A friend made the holders during his first experiments with filament printing a couple years ago; if I remember correctly he modified a file from Thingiverse
Vallejo and GW will be coming for you! Marco here at the forefront of a new wave of mini painting techniques
Okay... i have to start painting with oil, thank you for the video
Never tried oil paints, but after watching this video I'm working on my confidence to try it. I have to admit it feels a little bit scary.
Check also the new, updated video posted yesterday 😁 for more information!
Damn this actually makes me want to start trying oils, I don't have time for all this experimentation!!!!
Are you living in the UK? The Tesco olive oil took me by surprise
I live in Dublin, Ireland! 😊😁😊
Marco, man you have upped my painting game. Question good sir, I have some Windsor and Newton oils and 1 tube of abteilung 502 black. Would you suggest buying more abteilung or stick with the Winton series?
😁 Awesome! Abteilung paints are nothing special in general, just a bit less oily but it's not such a big game changer in my opinion. You can totally stick to W&N. What I really like of the Abteilung line are specific tones for weathering that can be extremely glossy (bitumen for example) or extremely mat (rust and dust tones)
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM I'm going to post some pics on the Facebook group. I watched your blanchitsu style video and ran out and bought thar fig and a ton of new mediums.
I have seen other painters apply their acrylic undertones then varnish them before starting in with the oils. Is this something you do as well or is it a matter of taste and/or paranoia? 😄
Oil paints and white spirit don't interact chemically with the layer of water based paint underneath so varnish is not mandatory but it can used to modulate the impact of oils over the acrylic layer; mat varnish absorbs more paint grabbing it in its microscopic rough finish while satin and gloss varnishes let the paint flow better for smoother blends. 99% of the time I don't use varnish!
Not going to lie. I got excited when I saw the Olive oil. I immediately wanted to make some pasta.
Yeah okay, fuck it. I'm getting Oil Colors right now.
Brilliant Video Mate!
😁😊😁 and check the full the full playlist for more details 😉
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM Will do so! Thank you so much :) I ordered the Artists Set, ne Brushes and some White Spirits. Can't wait to get startet, although I hope I'm not missing anything.
"The final quality is quite superior"
So if you had the exact same model and did your best paint job with acrylics (and/or used the same amount of time), and put the figures side by side....
Could we see that, perhaps? =)
The only issue is that only oil paints make smooth blends. All the washes and tricks we use with acrylic paints are to try to get closer to the oil blends, but side by side, the oils really make the acrylic look bad.
I started the oils about a month ago after watching james wappel (you should check out his channel if you want to learn more about oils on minis) and I will tell you that, hands down, the oils are faster. Not a little faster either. They're a *lot* faster. At least for any paint job more nuanced than the ol' paint by numbers and dip.
There is a learning curve but once you get over that, you get silky smooth blends with a minimum of effort. You do need to understand paint mixing and color wheel theory to get best results though.
The only caveat is that the drying times are longer. That's an advantage in that it's precisely what allows you to do such effortless smooth blends, but it is a disadvantage when you actually need to let something dry before moving on. For the most part, I'll pretty much paint a whole mini from start to finish in the span of a couple of hours and let them sit on the shelf for a week or so to make 100% sure they're fully dry before clear coating.
Really great Vid, thank you for sharing!
But Marco - What do you do after the model is panted?
How long do you leave it to totally dry?
Is this a display model only technique and not for gaming?
How is the best way to varnish it if you do want to use it for gaming?
... Would really appreciate if you can advise what you do next
Keep up the great Channel!
Thanks a million! The model is completely dry in 24/48 hours depending on the layer of paint used. You don't need to varnish because oils harden in an extremely resistant and waterproof film (that's why we have so many centuries old paintings in museums 😉). I always use oils in my gaming models 😊. Check the oils playlist; I explain everything in those videos!
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM Thanks for the reply. I agree with the guy below. I really look forward to your vids and love your honesty.
Impressive work.
Hi, I have a question, could I use oil paints mixed with army painter speed paints or will they not mix, as I have never used oil paints before, cheers.
You can't mix them (being oil based they are not compatible with water and water based paints) but when dry you can overlap and layer them for amazing effects!
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM ok, thank you for the information, keep up the good work buddy 👍
And oils smell awesome.
This video was wonderful and has fully convinced me to buy a set of oil paints!
😍😁😍 You'll have a ton of fun!!!
that's pretty good!
I've been experimenting with oils and I have to say... WHY TF IS EVERYONE USING ACRYLIC!?!?! lol
when u started i was like wow the mini looked great. then you hit the ugly duckling phase. where you think you totally screwed up the mini and have to start over. Then as you work BAM! you have a well done mini once again. it is sometimes so hard to not over paint something at that ugly phase or give up hope thinking you screwed it up. Every day is a new lesson from you once again well done!
As usual your work is amazing and inspiring ...question.... instead of glass with a white sheet underneath or painted white could you use a white ceramic tile etc....?
Thanks a million!!! Oh yeah a ceramic tile can be an awesome palette for oils
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM Awesome , thank you very much.
Marco what pushes your decision to work in a specific medium on a piece? Like most acrylic pieces I’ve been adding some work in oil but haven’t found “the model” to do all in oils. Would you say that the best place to start in a full oil piece would be something with large flat areas or something more like what you did here with a good mix of everything?
For me oils gives their best painting skins and organic materials, so I tend to use them in subjects with these kind of elements especially if they have to be delicate and smooth. For female characters 99% of the times I use oils!
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM Awesome, I think I will be trying on bust or 75mm model to start out. Ended up buying oils to match pigment of all the colours of the Kimera set so I'm very excited to see how you utilise oils.
Thank you. You explain things really well. Like you talk and explain all the way. And awesome work.
Thanks a million 😊😊😊!
Nice skills man!
Great video. But I wish you'd explain a bit more @4:38. Which colours you are mixing and ratio. I am considering buying abteilung 502 for my 28mm historicals and would like to get familiar with the technical stuff of the paints and effects. Particularly the skin effect you achieved.
Thank you.
Yesss!!! The video I've been waiting for!!! Awesome work!!!
Me too!
I've tried my hand at oils several time. I love using them! Still not even close to your mastery of it, but I enjoy how smooth and easy you make it look lol!
Superb instruction thanks! BTW how long on average does it take to dry?
Thanks! For this kind of applications I wait 24-48 hours before handling the model
MarcoFrisoniNJM fantastic thank you.
Thanks for this video Marco ! I hope there will be more oily content like this one ! ^^ Anyway, I'll jump in oil paint for a project i'm working on at the time (figurine but bigger scale) so thanks again for those nice advices !
Hi Marco, what's the best brushes to use for the oil paints? And what's the best way to clean and look after them ? Love the channel, thanks a million 🙂
Hi! Check my first video about oil paints where I show in details materials and basic techniques 😉
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@@MarcoFrisoniNJM thanks Marco, just finished watching the other video, fantastic so much valuable information, cheers bud 🙂
I just stumbled across this post. way cool. I'm a die hard acrylic painter... So Noob question. How long does it take for oil to dry?
Excellent video! Q: Will the Spirits in the cups last you longer than one painting session or; how often will you change to new, clear spirits?
Thanks! You can use the same spirit several times, you just need a couple of jars with a very good sealing
Like with water I change the thinner only when it's way too dirty and contaminated with colours
For some reason, my first attempt doesn't look QUITE like Marco's. 😀 But I'm encouraged enough to keep trying. It's quite fun!
Thanks for this useful tutorial. Just bought some Windsor & Newton Artisan Water Mixable Oil Paints and accoutrements. Do you have any experience with water mixable oil paints?
Ok, I'll bite.why doesn't everyone use oils for mini painting?
Hi Marco. Any recommendations for synthetic brushes for painting with oils?
Plot twist: Marco is employed by the oil painting guild... or something like that :D (there is no such thing, this is a joke). You are really winning me over with wanting to try oil paints!
excellent video! Following this (and a visit to the art store), I've tried oil washes on some boardgame coin tokens and they looked amazing, but need to remember room ventilation next time :)
Next, will try some of these techniques, and their application to OSL, on Tainted Grail's Menhirs!!! Thanks man, would have never tried this without your guidance!
Lol that intro
Wow this is on a whole other level than the edge highlighted space marines you see all the time on youtube (which are impressive in their own right!). Your choice and control of colors gives it a warm and vibrant Boris Vallejo feel.
Marco, this video could not have come at a better time. I ordered some oil paints and white spirits and they just got delivered.
Thanks!
The intro alone gets you my subscription 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I started using oils (burnt umber, ivory black and I treated myself to violet winsor purple dioxazine. They are awesome. The capillary effect is mental. No coffee stains. Depending on the colour they are quite transparent. It's all your fault. hahaha
Getting into this after getting in my full practice with acrylics using a zorn palette
Amazing. Honestly speaking I am not ready for this yet. Still trying to work on techniques with acrylics. You are so much fun to watch as you give me techniques to work toward. Thank you
I'm a pretty new painter as well and honestly I wonder if it wouldn't have been easier to start with oils, they just make more intuitive sense in a way. If nothing else you could at least get a black or dark brown color and try an oil wash instead of a regular acrylic wash. They really add depth to the models.
@@nightdew4934 thanks for the thought. I will have to give that a try. Need to branch out to grow 😁😁
Hello. Im dirtyburger-chan- Just want to say that i love watching you play with colors. Keep it up
Hey Marco! This video is awesome and I can't wait to try it on my next project. Quick question: You mention that you are applying the paint, and then pushing it with a clean, dry brush with no mineral spirits. Do you just use a new brush each time, or are you cleaning the brush with mineral spirits and drying it off in between? Is there any concern of leftover mineral spirits? Thanks for The video!
Have you tried Maimeri Classico oil range?, and if so, would you recommend just buying primary tones+b/w? I've been using their polycolor acrylic range for a while and I quite like the result the give me, and giving that the are produced by the same company and the pigments are the same, it's a bonus, but I noticed the primary tones are marked as transparent, and I don't know if they would give me problems
Marco... I never fail to learn new bits of technical knowledge watching you work. My creative brain loves you, but my wallet is starting to demand a restraining order, unless I can figure out how to get my colorblind self working purely in CMYK color mixing, before diving into yet another painting discipline...
I was looking into oil paints, I think this is the one video that convinced me to actually order some and try it.
Grande come sempre
Hi Marco ! Thanks again for your great job and videos ! Wondering if we can still use oil washes on top of that ? Thanks for your feedback. ++ Julio
Marco, with you fantastic skills and knowledge you completely turned my world of miniature painting! I only recently joined your channel and catching up. I have already tried oil washes - and I am a true believer now. I am trying to compile and buy a 'starter set'. Could you list the colours you used painting this model, please?
Marco can you talk about the tones and acrylics/oils you used for the skintone? I have trouble achieving subtle, realistic skin tones like you do. I generally work from a warm brown base (streaking grime over like a gulliman flesh) into an Abteilung basic flesh tone, then sunny skin and a bit of light flesh. It doesn’t come out as lifelike as yours always does! Thanks so much!
Where did you get those twin cups for rinsing? I’ve tried searching and can’t seem to find anything like them.
And your videos are the best. I’m proud to support your Patreon!
I'm about to attempt using oil paints to add some shading to a large D&D blue dragon I'm working on right now and I admit it's daunting. But after watching this, even a hack like me can go for it, I think! Good show, Marco!
Another question: how do you make your synthetic brushes last with oils? I find after one session my Royal and Langnickel are basically destroyed.
Great Marco. Thank you. I use like a pallette for oils just a square flat piece of white ceramic, which is very cheap and easy to find and I think more simple to clean and use with oils. :-)
Mr. Marco, When you are getting into the blending stage, do you find it easier to drag the lighter color into the darker color or the other way around? It's hard to tell your methods of blending with the speed and camera distance from the model on my android... Just curious as Im about to embark to the art store to get some oils and a little bigger model from the D&D line to experiment on before moving over to my 40k army. I've watched this three times now and am STOKED to give this a go.
great video as always!! :) one question, i always need a varnish gloos on acrilycs before use oil wash or paint with oils right? for :) so as not to damage the acrilyc paint. thx you man!
I just started painting minis with acrylic because that's what everyone said. So I can use both ? Acrylic for the main portions that require solid base colors and keeping the layer thin since oils are thick ? Then use oils for blends and stuff ?
I am not sure if I should just switch over to oils completely?
I mean, that is fantastic. I am just cleaning out and setting up a new look to my hobby room (the attic) and I am buying all the oils etc to give it a try.
If I had a question...it would be how to paint the cylinders and curved oval shapes you find on space marines and eldar. The flat panels have always defeated me as I can't work out what part should be highlighted and how etc.
Thanks for your videos sir, they are fantastic!
Hi, before i start with oils i have a question that i never found on this or otherss videos, what is the finish of oils? Matt, satin or gloss? And do they cover in 1 coat? Since acrilic use 2 or 3 coats for some colors, even my scale75 artist paint usually without dilution (just humidity of wet pallet) can't cover in 1 coat except if really heavy
Love your videos! You're the reason I have added oils to my tool box, thanks for that.
One issue I'm running into is (not sure how to explain this) "oil on oil". Basically I put down an acrylic base then oil wash on top of that. Then I add a different color on to that but I don't want to really disturb the wash later below. How do I avoid that?
I have a question... When I use oil paints, my model ends up a bit on the glossy side. What would you use to bring the gloss down without affecting the vribrancy of the color too much?
per quello che so io questi sono considerati tra i migliori colori ad olio
Non proprio il top. Abbastanza buoni per il modellismo, soprattutto perché nella linea ci sono colori per effetti specifici, ma i gli olii top sono quelli che trovi nei negozi di belle Arti
i love it so much how he laughs at his own joke at 0:10
😂😁😂
hola, I have a question about white spirit bottle, can you use any kind of plastic, whitout the fear of melting=? thanks.
Hi Marco i am trying oils for the first time on my latest bust thanks for giving me the confidence to give it a go ! Regards Gav.
Hi, how do you know which colours to basecoat with (in this case Contrast) paint first? E.g. here you do yellow and red, but not a skin colour. In other videos I think you mentioned you only did dark colours?
Great video I keep on coming back to! Not everything made sense to me the first time I watched it but since then I ave tried oil paints several times and I think now I fully understand the process. It’s not difficult but hard to adjust to if you come from acrylic paints 😅
Amazing as always. All your videos are great but i have a crush on your oil paint videos.
Stay safe and keep up the great work! Dont stress, we will stay here and wait for your content 😉
Have you tried abteilungs oil paints in metallic colors? I sometimes struggle blending metallics, wondering if that's worth a shot
Wow just wow! I usually don't use oil paints or enamels because of the smell and strong odor. @Marco Are these types of oil paints strong in odor? I haven't used these artist grade ones. I have problems with the fumes from thinners and enamel (testors) paint and the panel linning ones for gundams they hurt my throat and head after a while and that's even with ventilation. I would hate to have to use a respirator for hours while painting. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated it.