This Is The Arcfox Alpha-S And It’s Proof We Need To Stop Ignoring Chinese Electric Cars
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- The Chinese EVs are getting really great and this is full proof of it. I had never even heard of this car until recently and it's so impressive as to the quality, thoughtfulness, and overall feeling. Watch our European and American carmakers, the Chinese are on a trajectory to overtake!
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#Arcfox #AlphaS #EV
Acceleration: 0-60 in 4.0 seconds
Price: about $59,000
Range: 374 miles
Those are very respectable numbers if true. Beats pretty much anything for the performance and range for the price if so
The range is according to outdated and overly generous NEDC test cycle, under more moder and realistic test cycles it will most likely get sub-300 miles of range.
@@HidingAllTheWay The difference is not that big... is actually overly generous for ICE, for EV is closer. (WLTP is also optimistic compared to real drive)
examples for Renault Zoe: - NEDC Range: 186 miles - WLTP Range: 179 miles - Real Range: 146 miles
probably WLTP for this car would be ~350 miles, real range ~290 miles
america is catching up to chinese standards in EV
@@johnsmith-cw3wo where did you get those stats? They are completely wrong. The 41kWh Zoe Q90 (the only model to have ratings under both test cycles I could find) had 230mi NEDC range and 186mi WLTP one.
Sandy Munro has been saying for a long time, look out when the chinese cars come to america. It will be like when the japanese came in the 70's 80's. This just proves his point.
Yeah but Japan was not hostile to US when it happened. Half of the country will trash communist crap
Monroe should look at the Fisker Ocean, which is a derivative of this platform.
He should retire please.
And the Koreans by the early 2000's. Unfortunately, too many folks here in the US have their minds stuck 25 years ago and it'll come to bite them in the ass.
US will simply say they don't trust the Chinese to spy using the cars and the cars will be banned. That is how they protect their market. Remember Huawei?
I have a Chinese EV--It's called a Polestar 2!!😆
PogU
Yes indeed, and the Polestar is one of the few EVs that are connected to the internet.
And the bmw EVs are built in China too.
@@the_lost_navigator7266 Also, I believe Toyota will essentially be a BYD car with Toyota building the car body only.
Polstar precept is damn nice.
GB port on the left hand side of the car is for DC only. The right hand AC port looks like a type 2 European port but is not compatible. These ports will be replaced in the coming years by the new chaoji standard (combined AC and DC port).
Excellent review! When a car carries the "Huawei" badge, you know you won't be disapointed! Good job guys!👍
That's not a Huawei badge. It looks more like a mix of Maserati and an antelope charging you.
@@h8GW This car is " powered by Huawei’s HI (Huawei Inside) solution. It combines a HarmonyOS-powered smart display on the interior and Huawei’s HiCar solution capable of level-3 autonomous driving"
It uses Huawei autonomous driving.
If it’s related to huawei, we won’t see it in the US due to sanction
Great review guys. Thanks! 🙂👍 Let's see how they correct the little errors and language issues with labels, before it becomes available for purchase.
15:40 Nearly as warm as the temperature thus morning in England! 19th July, 2022. We'll hit 41° today. It doesn't always rain here. 😉
Soft and Floaty but settled while being a hooligan is all I’ve ever wanted in a car, but it’s always either/or in our current market
You mean physical reality limit
Very interesting. Looks like an Olds Aurora 😎. BTW, I get car sick watching you drift cars. Thanks! 😅
Haha I LOVE that sound when you turn it on and off :D
I always enjoy your deep dives into the settings! Geekily entertaining.
It is BAIC Group, they're joint venture with Mercedes. Not surprising there are a lot of sort of MB parts.
More to the point, now we know where MB get their parts!
I love the fact that at :50 into the video, what looks like the Ineos Grenadier drives by in the background…LOL
Oops…it’s a G wagon
All built by Magna.
I like my power windows at full speed all the time… can’t stand how Mercedes does it where it normally moves slow, but speeds up for auto up and down.
anyone realize the logo is a nearly identical to star treks starfleet delta logo but upside down. They should start naming the car models 'enterprise' & 'voyager'🤣
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I love a soft suspension that still handles well. Don't do much slalom driving :)
This might sell really well in Europe if they were to sell it. Guess this will be an ID aero competitor that costs less and offers more.
You think too much. We won't sell cheap products in the future，Next year, we will introduce new laws to prohibit the export of all products with high energy consumption and low profits！
Cool! Are you coming to Norway this time? Lots of Chinese cars you should be able to test here. Hongqi e-HS9, NIO ES8 (and battery swapping station), Xpeng P7 and VOYAH Free, BYD Tang, MG 5 and Marvel etc.
Handing Kyle a car, keys and no rules... what can go wrong? 😀 great review. Development reminds me of Japanese cars in my youth and Koreans in the 90s. Both were laughed at and looked down upon in Germany when it started, then eventually Toyota became the standard for build quality (though they seem to go down in last yrs). Hyundai was considered to produce super cheap ugly cars until the i20 and i30 came and now they are with Kia in the forefront of EV design and standards with Ioniq (old and 5) and EV6.
that is always the same because people love what they know and are traditional (change is hated by most, I made a TED talk magic of change in 2019 where I showed the reasons), so needs time.
and then lexus ls400 shit on them for over a decade
When a car isn't made or sold in the US or Europe, buyers have no choice but to ignore them. Even reviews are pointless as litterally no-one will ever see one, let alone drive one. I guess you can look at the technology, but that's about it.
This is awesome. Competition wake up calls and hey folks your not the only ones on this planet is always good for the consumer. As soon as they start to mass produce especially in China India & EU = over 2 billion people, manufacturers will def raise an eyebrow
1st time hearing this brand, and I am already liking it
That would mean the Euro, Japanese, Korean and US cars step up their quality. That's good.
The quality is the newer Teslas since 2020 has been quite good and rarely an issue with gaps, paint etc. Meamwhile, Chinese and Korean cars tend to have a horrible resale value
@@alexnutcasio936 I just drove a new m3 with 2k miles the door panels were falling off on the drivers side. Not good
@Alex NutCasio Of course they have a low resale value. Tons of folks still have a mental image of "cheap garbage", even still with the Koreans. Minds get stuck a quarter of a century in the past.
Tho TBH, I'd be a bit wary of Korean cars from more than 15 years ago -but not as much as a German car.-
@@h8GW rightly earned or not, it’s all about the image.
Looks like two shots of the Ineos eSUV that is planned. :).
I want one!!!😃 Wow!!! Insane!
Why'd they feel the need to put in a no smoking sign 😅
Also that tolls for Austria, Slowenia and one specific highway have been paid
I have never ignored Chinese EVs. As a matter of fact, I have paid a lot of attention to the EVs manufactured in China for the past several years. I always wish I could get one of BYDs or NIOs in the US, however I don't think my wish can be fulfilled in a very near future. But I will never give up hoping though.
As Sandy Munro mentions, we better wake up to the flood of Chinese BEVs. These are high quality BEVs that will do what Honda and Toyota did in the 80s and 90s.
And China is waaay ahead of the Japanese brands in EVs, amazingly. Japan didn't want to accept an all EV future so they are behind.
To prevent customs surcharges, the Chinese manufacturers will need to open assembly plants in North America. This is what Honda and Toyota did, in Canada, in order to be competitive in terms of pricing back in the early '80s.
@@ScubaSteveCanada They can open factories in Korea and export to USA because Korea and USA/EU have FTA. That's why Geely made a deal with Renault Korea.
Kestrel diving for prey at 7:40
Discharge mode may be V2G
The level of quality and refinement at this price point illustrates how much extra we are paying for comfort in Western manufacturers. We are pushed into the high margin trims by the punitive de-contenting of the base models.
If and when the Chinese come to America they will skin the likes of Cadillac, Mercedes,Tesla and any other pretender to luxury.
Competition is good for consumers. Hoping for a smaller EV but not a toy at a reasonable price. Don't need a lot of tech. Just save.
We are not ignoring Chinese electric cars. We just get stuck with cheap Kandi cars that are only neighborhood electric vehicles (NEV's) that only go 30 mph. Still waiting for better options in the affordable EV market.
15:07 omg I don't think I can drive with that guy in the shadow smiling at me the whole time... I'll need a priest.➕
Not sure but think magna also produce the Jaguars ipace in Austria
Koreans will give them run for money. New ioniqs are impressive.
Hyundai Motor Group has 30+ years of dealing in North America. Not so much for Chinese made EVs.
Sandy Monroe said the Chinese EV will dominate the American market in the future.
The reasons they're usually ignored is because they're usually only sold in China, so people outside of China will likely ignore them because they can't buy them anyways, so it won't matter how good it is or what it costs.
If they make a vehicle that I have the option of buying and using, I'm a LOT more likely to pay attention (in my profile picture I'm riding an electric unicycle that came straight from China)
But in short, the title for this video is misguided....things are being ignored because they're irrelevant to people who don't have the option of buying them in the first place.
If aliens test their UFO 🛸 I’d like to watch thru
Remember how everyone laughed at Toyota during the '60s? It didn't take long. . . . .
I drive a Chinese car. In fact one of the best sellers here in the UK and Europe if the MG ZS EV, now on version 2
Best seller my a****
00:35 It's 'AN' Arcfox 😏
Wow, a Chinese car that feels like a Merc. Watch out German automakers. Did they give a Euro price range.
We 🇺🇸 need too leave the old ways of think 💭 behind and catch up with the rest of the world 🌍
This car is awesome ! I heard in future models they are going to put miniature windmills on the roof ! That way it'll be self-sustaining and never have to be recharged ! These guys are geniuses !
😆 🤣
I don't trust 'em.
Well, they don't trust you either.
Would like to get your impressions on how it compares to your dad’s GV60. Remind him not to stuff it in a corner depending on regenerative braking.
Current price in china:
525 km range - 67,3 kW - $32.500
708 km range - 93,6 kW - $38.700
I like it.
Sony take note! This is the design that your future care needs! Your future sedan and suv designs are just about as exciting any 1970's GM products -> take your pick as they were all horrible!
Polyphony and Gran Turismo CAN'T stop ignoring them!!!
So other than the soft settings and probably the charging speed, why does it not get sold in Europe?
one comment, by definition, adaptive headlamps don't have to be matrix. every matrix is adaptive, not every adaptive is matrix.
You should try the new Cadillac Lyric and compare it to this Arcfox Alpha-S, I don't know why but they look very similar, I bet this two cars share the same platform and maybe the Cadillac is produced by the Magna assembly plant in China too!
Doug DeMuro thumbnail 😏😏😏
Nice review.
But arcfox sounds a very good name
I don’t understand the lack of front trunk. It’s basically an EV essential.
Only for the Tesla fanboys..... Although I can see the point for EV work trucks carrying material and tools, a vast majority of EV buyers won't give a rat's ass.
Very inconvenient. a front trunk requires you to open the hood first, and then the front trunk. It's unheated/cooled. I have one and never use it.
@@ScubaSteveCanada what’s the difference between opening the hood vs the rear hatch? Once open it’s open. There are perfectly fitted coolers that fit into the frunk so you won’t take up trunk space. It’s very convenient.
The great thing is that those non Tesla Evs are getting better and compete NOT with Tesla but with all remamining ICE cars really.
what another one, anyway none of them are coming to uk very soon because US tell uk not allowed to have them just like huawei
Really impressive. It will low price of electrics cars 👌 with really efficient cars
That’s a nice looking car.
Well i like Acrfox Alpha T
Slams the charge port. Surprising nice build quality.. LMAO
Sandy has been saying for a while that the Chinese will be a big player
Go look at the BYD EVs it’s even better
Will be nice to find a not trills cheap ev, price range $25K for a review. We need a "model T" of a car for the mass market, don't need of all the electronics just a well functional safe car in order to get a regular working class to buy EVs. I know the Chinese have built it and they need to bring it to Europe and here in the US.
I think Ford and GM are in serious trouble!!!
Honda and Toyota better move quicker...
Looks like Sandy Munro is right about chinese cars.
Its high price model in China.
Kyle more Chinese car reviews please. You and Tom need to go to China for a month someday. Looking forward to the day Chinese cars come to the US. That's the day our OEMs roll their eyes saying "oh shit".
Quality about 100X better than Model S Plaid, No joke. But not saying much, Tesla quality is the worst amongst all automakers but now we know it's worse than cheap Chinese cars.
Correct
Yes well, I prefer not having my cars sending my data back to the CCP :)
What data? Ease up on the fox News, we already have enough scared people running around.
My thought exactly when i heard you can take a selfie in the car! 🤣
@joshua trees 😆 🤣
@joshua trees What a weird retort. I can't value my own privacy unless I'm super famous or "important?"
Most people will buy it if it is cheap enough, regardless who is the maker.
Love evs
Wish we could buy Chinese cars in the US.
That White G-Wagon though, sneak up a few times, totally stole the show!
Sandy Munro compared the front drive unit on the Mustang EV to the rear and said it was much more elegant. Front by Magna. Rear by Ford. So you know this car is engineered right. So watch out Elon with your slapped together cars.
It's let gone by black glossy plastic fittings. Look at the fingerprints at around 6:37 to 6:40.
He said large batt is 700km but actually it's 500km (310miles). Also he quoted the small batt price but I looked up the large batt price and it's $60kusd
I have a feeling you may see this in Europe, badged as a Cupra one day.
Cupra is a VW brand and they have their own electric architecture.
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Lots of glare from display during day. Lots dust w piano black. Pass
a chinese car with a camera in it... not sure how i feel about that lol
Screen is too little but seems really nice interior
Wow all the stolen intellectual property in one car..! Can’t be more obvious from which companies they stole!!! As always, Chinese products look nice from the outside but cutting corners on materials and what is not visible to the eye makes those cars dangerous as and forget about warranty, coz you won’t get any!!
I'd make a serious bet that if you tally up the vehicle tech balance US to China, China wins.
(And the "US tech" will either have Chinese electronics, or be made there)
@@rogerstarkey5390 th-cam.com/video/-tIK3Fk-bLA/w-d-xo.html
I am not ignoring Chinese vehicles - I actively choose to not buy Chinese goods if I have a reasonable alternative. I do not support the Chinese government, and most Chinese companies have to tow that one-party line and pay plenty of taxes that prop up their government and their practices.
Kinda sounds like the United States. Except in America we use taxpayer money to prop up some of the corporations that exploit their workforce.
@@PumpUptheJam81 The US is not actively suppressing its people. The US is nothing like China. I do agree that the US govt's poor management of public funds is something that needs major reform and oversight.
I am with you on that. Buying from Chinese companies funded by the genocidal Chinese government is a hard no for me.
@Bowie since my comment had plenty of additional context to clarify my reasons which in fact have nothing to do with ethnicity, and everything to do with the poor treatment of the Chinese people by its government, I'm just going to dismiss your name calling. Have a nice day.
@@MBergyman You should check out which countries people are most satisfied with their government, study by top US university. Surprise surprise its China. Also the US supresses its own people, but since you are indoctrinated to believe its China you just ignore all the police violence and the worlds biggest prison population. Even bigger than China which have 5 times the population.
My main question is if child or severally under paid labor is used to make these cars?
MSM brainwashed victim
child labor or forced labor should not comment on youtube
@@michaeljiang960 it was a question. Not a comment brah. Also DO NOT tell me what I can and cannot write. I have freedom of speech in my country! But yeah still a question and not a comment.
It is not made by Hyundai in the US
@@PhotoJohn80 calm down slappy
Nah, that thing look ugly af lol. And I don’t like Tesla other than the Model S. I think Hyundai and Kia are killing it with the quality you get for the price. Ford and GM are also doing great with their truck offerings as well, and it’s making Tesla’s Cyber Truck look like an afterthought. And Rivian is coming out swinging, and Lucid is a force to reckon with in terms of range.
They have made all sort of arbitrary regulations, like tire pressure sensors mandatory, AddBlue, etc. to try keep the Chinese cars out from EU. Even though most components are made there :D
Will America allow the Chinese imports without significant import taxes protecting domestic manufacturers ?
Nope.
I wil continue to ignore them because they are not sold in the USA.
Yet another ridiculous hands in the air thumbnail.
Hahahaha
It’s become his trademark
@@KamleshMallick Well then he can sue the thousands of other TH-cam idiots who have been doing it for years.
will production Chinese cars maintain the quality of their sample test cars ? probably substitute in cheaper parts to make more profit.
So arrogant attitude with punching exterior...
Model 3 copy…..
Honestly, there's not that much similar to the Model 3. And it looks like it has a much higher level of details and finish quality. It seems more a cruiser than a dynamic handler but there's nothing wrong with that.
@@benjaminsmith2287 No mention of price either, so I'm going to assume $60-80k. YTubers rarely talk price because they're told NOT to.
@@alexnutcasio936 he said the euro price for the base I think. 45k?
Tesla wishes they had this build quality. Tesla is good for 1 thing, stock holder pump and dump. Their cars are garbage.
@@dece6170 so says the guy who's never owned one to the guy who's owned four of them. You haven't a clue as to what you're talking about.
I WILL NEVER EVER BUY A CHINESE CAR. Hostile to the World. Hostile to the US of A. I would rather buy a Hyundai instead of Chicom crap
But have house full of Walmart stuff
@@kamsunleong6648 nope i dont have a house full of walmart. I go to great length not to buy Chicom products. Sadly its unavoidable. But NO Chicom Brand for me.
Even the speedometer font is copied from Mercedes-Benz... :D
Clown 🤡 you cannot just appreciate. Don't be jealous. Let us drive arcfox. Keep going for you mercedes. Biased European who praise NATO for destroying poor countries based on self made allegations.
"It's the future"😂😂
I will continue to ignore a car from China as long as it sits. Don't like my shit breaking down when I first drive it.
Magna supplied the front drive unit for the Mach E (The *good* unit)
They build the G Wagen.... And a lot of other Quality cars.
They won't let it be unreliable.
GM and Ford don’t have to worry about Tesla. Tesla is in a league of its own. GM and Ford need to worry about Chinese EVs. Great quality and low price.
My concern is that China could spy or shut down cars in other countries whenever it wants. I hope that will be addressed.
Isn't paranoia a wonderful thing.....
@@rogerstarkey5390 Especially when other Chinese companies have proven it justified. It's so much fun.
@@melissamybubbles6139 You have no proof only claims which is just shady tactics by western corporations and geo politics.
You're not Doug Demuro. You need to stop putting your arms out to the sides in your thumbnails. You've got a good channel but I've stopped watching your videos due to your unoriginal thumbnails. I can't support someone that copies another You tuber just for views.
He is more thorough and less animated ..
Hahahaha
The specs are competitive...just have to see build quality.
That’s an Ioniq 6.
Way overpriced I'd buy the BYD for half the price