Hi Shane, this is Bill, the Panning Professor at Gold -N- Detectors. Thank you for the shout out and coverage. Sorry I was out when you were in on Monday. I could have told you about a customer doing this same operation more than 20 years ago. He termed it "fishing for gold". Yes, as you proved, the process works. He 'fished' off of the foot bridge near the library. To clean up his black sand, he used plastic (clean) peanut butter jars and a vertically mounted paint can shaker. After agitating the gold to the bottom of the jar, he could safely discard the black sand from the top level. Then he used that same blue finish pan to do the final separation. Enjoyed your video.
Hey Bill! Thanks for having the best prospecting store ever. I had no idea if this would work, but kind of made sense to try it. Thanks for watching! atb -KG
it look like your store had a great selection for all kinds of prospecting! I can tell I would spend a pile in that place. it's like a big boy toy store or something!
@@Klesh I paused the video at 1:39 I have something I want you to look at, 1st I've been noticing for the last couple of months that there are anomalies in 99% of all videos, One that I will point out is at the time stamp 1:39, I take screenshots and zoom in and I see all kinds of strange things, At that time stamp take a screenshot, Zoom into the Gray clump of vegetation, look to the left side and there is something peeking out, looks like an elephant trunk among other things I see. I see a lot of stuff everywhere, it's crazy I know. No, I'm not tripping, So far one other channel is starting to see what I see.
@@americanrebel413 trunk at the left, at the RIGHT LOW are two FACES looking at us. WAy across the slope , way left is a darklong object. What is the object!
It seems that everyone is an expert.... so here's my two cents worth! Try building a miniature fractionating table. It has a large rectangular corrugated surface, angled from top left corner to bottom right corner. A stream of wet black sand is trickled (using running water) onto the top left corner of the table, and as it drains away to the bottom right corner the elements separate, because of their differing Periodic Table weight properties. The fractionating table has a vibrator attached to it, in the form of an electric motor with an offset weight... like an orbital sander. The vibration, and the gravity feed, does all the work for you. Look up some stuff from old sand mining operations from the late 1960s. That's when I saw it happening in the flesh. When I was in primary/elementary school, they took us to a sand mining refinery to see how it all worked. Down the lower side of the little rainbow spectrum of elements that appeared, as if by magic, out of the sand (on the bed of the fractionating table) there was a thin band of gold particles. They told us that there was enough gold yielded every day to fund the entire operation (which was huge, with great big earthmoving machines and a factory sized building) and that the rutile, zircon, silica, and ilmenite they were mining was all pure profit. Hope that helps you cut down on drudge time... you'll have to build a table and do some experimenting of course... but after that, it's all cream! Good luck man, and thanks for the vids.
I watched this video for the second time. I have a suggestion for you, As with all suggestions if you like it , Try it, If not you know where the trash can is. Select your rocks and spots that you would prospect during good weather. when bad weather comes and the river floods, Wait for it to be safe and practical to use the magnet. You may need a pole and extra weight. You would have more of a chance for more and larger gold with the black sand if it has not had the chance to sink below the black sand. Good Fortune to You.
If put a handkerchief over the magnet, when you pull it off, all of the black sand will drop off and the magnet will stay clean and you can rinse the handkerchief from the back and get the last amount that is left on it.
Handkerchief is probably the best suggestion I've heard. I don't want to use plastic, because it's hard to clamp and will most likely break. I thought about using a crown royal bag, since it already has pull strings. Thanks for watching and the suggestion! atb -KG
isn't that creek basically a giant sluice box.....your magnet is separating the gold from the black sand before you even get it out of the creek....the majority of the gold is still in the spot where the magnet landed in the water....just with less black sand around it....separating the magnetics after you baked it is pretty much a smaller scale of how you gathered your material back at the creek.....think of all the gold you left behind .....would't it be better to just grab a bucket of dirt from the creek bottom then separate it later to get ALL the gold in one spot
Yes definitely better to grab a bucket of the black sand and then pan it, this was just an experiment that worked a little bit! Thanks for watchin! -KleshGuitars
that's kinda what I think too. I would get s sort of curved pry/shovel that would actually dig deeper and have a chance to retain some fallen-off gold(?) .... and some "bar", magnets that would also penetrate the sand. I would think the magnet idea works but of course only picks up the flakes of gold that are superior to the iron oxide(or whatever it is). That is slightly above the metallic stuff, but within the bulk of the metallic stuff. I think I'm going to do some drawings ....
The big difference is wet vs dry. Wet, a concentration of black sand will hold the gold with it due to surface tension. (same reason we add jet dry when panning). Dry, it's much easier to pull off the magnetics, leaving the gold in the blonds.
I was just in that area a couple of weeks ago. We stopped on the side of the hwy and I filled up 2 thirstbuster cups with dirt and rock and panned it when I got back home in Florida. Found a bunch of fine gold and a couple of flakes,,,and also what I think is silver. I love that area up there!
Jason's Out There Gold is paramagnetic, not nonmagnetic. Actually, anything that is nonmagnetic can be attracted to a strong magnet. You can use a very strong magnet to bend a stream of water.
I know your comment was a while ago but I wanted to warn you that oftentimes the “silver” stuff is amalgam of gold and mercury. I’ve run into a bit of it in streams left from the old miners.
That rock/piece of metal you found at 14:48 might have been a meteorite. Worth more than gold. But you probably know that. Very cool video! Subscribing.
OK friend, I'm a locksmith among other things and I install Magnetic locks that are 12/24v. AC. Now I watched a video of a guy who stopped a gold coin from rolling using a AC magnet. You would need an Inverter for the field and water proof reinforced cabling but one of my Mag locks can hold depending on the model from 600 to 1300 lbs... Kind of makes you think don't it?
I'm a 65 year old first time prospector and I'm loving the idea of saving my back by not doing a lot of digging. May I ask what the lifting capacity of the magnet is? Thank you for your time.
put your magnet in a zip lock then take it out to release the black sand......much faster and you don't loose any. most off the gold is below the black sand, you left it there. pull it out with your pvc suction tube and run it thru a bazooka sluice.
I did watch the entire video was very interesting I have used a magnet for pulling black sand out of concentrates. The electric panning wheel with the spiral riffels works really good I had one back in the late 70's and 80s , for the short time I had it I recovered approx 20-35 lbs of black sand and out of that maybe 1oz.of free gold.
The thought occurs to me that while you are 'Magnet Fishing for Gold', and only coming up with small particles of it, you could be missing out on the nuggets. If there is gold dust in that stream, there are bound to be a few good sized nuggets as well. What you should do if you want to find more than just dust, is use the magnet fishing to test a location behind a big rock, panning it out as you go to help identify where the gold can be found. If you get a good hit of gold dust in one spot, either mark it for later work, or go to the next stage immediately, digging out deeper down where the heavier bits would go. If you find heavier bits in the spot, you know there is likely to be even more there. Like all such endeavors, it will be a hit and miss thing, but the payoff could be pretty good if you remember where you got the gold dust from and go back to those spots to look for larger bits of gold.
Thanks for the comment and yeah I agree. I cannot dig very much due to back injuries but if I were to dig down to bedrock pretty much anywhere on this river, I'd be in the nuggets. This was just an experimental video to see if it would work. Thanks for writing and watching!
Did not know about your back problem. I hope you can get some kind of relief for that soon, as it is no fun having that kind of pain. I suffer from time to time with mine as well, and sometimes it feels like I'm being broke in half. That said, I wish I could be there with you on some of your trips, prospecting for gold. I think it would be very interesting. And what you are doing is showing the rest of us that there is still gold to be found out there in more than a few places on this world.
here is a trick I use, put the magnet in a zip lock baggie, zip it shut around the rope, get most of the air out. When you pull it up hold the bag and magnet in the bucket and remove the magnet from the bag. the black sand will drop off once the magnet is pulled out, put the magnet in the bag and repeat. It works, bring extra baggies they get tore up on the rocks. Good luck.
Thanks for that tip, I actually ended up coming up with a solution in a later video that isn't a bag, and works great! Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching , also Happy New Year! -KleshGuitars
Did this in a similar manner just to clean from lots of black sands.....used magnet inside a ziplock plastic bag,,worked pretty well,,much easier than cleaning off the magnet every pass.... Gold-N-Detectors...Good people,,bought lots of stuff there over the years,,gold fever seems to pull cash right out of your pocket....too many things you got to have,,,one method or another....
The main reason I clicked on your video,was because of the Title,...and most importantly is the fact that "YOU DARED TO THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX!" I Love the way a Trained thinker dare go outside to explore other ways not in the Text Book's! I also love the idea behind your technique. It may,or may not be old,"But it's new's to a wanna be Rookie like me who is exploring the idea of looking for Gold! "Thanks's!
Used to do this in cherry creek when we were kids. We collect the magnetite and then dad would put cyanide solution in the buckets to leach the gold out of the mag. Great video took me back to the '80s.
Cool! That cyanide solution idea among others are good ways to get a lot more gold out. Maybe in a future video I can do something like this. Thanks for watching! atb -KG
Jay Hanes Is there a safe (environmentally speaking) way to dispose of the cyanide solution? I'd like to try this if I can do it without killing stuff.
I got my first gold pan there...along with a bad case of "THE FEVER" ..very hard to cure for a resident of central Ohio😖..sadly I just lost that pan this weekend in a moment of rookieness (yeah I think that's a word😋)...turned my back for just a second and the current swiped it away..Any way love that shop and all of Golden! Good luck and can't wait to see your next prospecting adventure! Cheers!
How about this for an idea..... Get a large clear plastic bottle,,, shovel in sand / gravel,,, shake,,, look at the very bottom to se if there is gold to then recover????. I'm going to try it in Scotland 🌄
John... Interesting,,, I’m up for trying that. ... I was up the hills just before Christmas... only had a few checks in a river... I found gavel and sand!!! Yeh😁
We always used magnets over our sluices to remove the magnetics... We called it the magnetic bridge. Magnets in a wooden box... Oh, and try an orbital pattern when panning.
I'm loving what you're doing! My sister and I spent several weeks each summer with our grandma and her husband Foster. They always took us out on a fun weekend adventure, my favorite was panning for gold! You're living the life I wish I could live...Thanks!! Lynn in Law Vegas!
use to use a wet vac ( gen & 100' cord from truck ) to vacuum out the pockets of visible gold / black sand at 11 mile canyon near the Springs come home and pan . Water was so cold it would cramp up hands when first trying to scoop it out manually.This was in the 80's ( gold at @$850 oz ) , now who knows ? Back then the rangers rarely patrolled .
Interesting method..I just wonder if you are leaving a lot of potential gold behind as this "capture by association" method would seem to indicate that only very fine placer gold will be scooped up with any iron powder flakes. A shovel full of gravel and sand might get you an honest to god nugget someday....no?
Theres a guy on youtube that made a PVC hand pump that allows you to vacuum waaay out to get gold..i would like to see you try it before it gets too cold..
Seeking TKO - I actually have one of those. I built it but never used it, maybe I'll give it a try this summer. Lots planned though, but I should get to it! Thanks for watching! atb -KG
The gold that was picked up by the first magnet was mostly a by-catch to the black sand that was being picked up, as evidenced by the second cleanup which left the gold in the pan after using the second magnet.
Yes, I have done this in Arizona many years ago ( I am 73 yrs old). I used a speaker magnet. I also suggest you crush your residual black sand and pan it again. If you want to get more technical, wash the black sand (let it sit awhile) in nitric acid. Be careful to flood flush with water to remove the nitric acid and do this outdoors. Nitric acid is dangerous stuff.
Thanks for the comment eman. I do have a video going through the process of extracting the gold from black sand using Nitric acid and mercury. Thanks for watching!
Hey would ya look at that it worked !!! very cool and golden detectors is my favorite prospecting store I've got all my supply's there. way to go man !
Jessica Muldivici jet dry acts as a surfactant that breaks the surface tension of the water, preventing the very small flakes of gold from floating away. Thanks for asking!
You might try wrapping your magnet like a gift, using heavy duty saran wrap, or industrial stretch wrap, securing it with rubber bands. Much easier to recover the sand from the magnet by simply unwrapping it in your bucket. Great idea though, and you never know what else you might pick up with your magnet. If it was me, I'd run your sands through a miller table. Very effective, but somewhat time consuming. This might make a good project for those cold winter days when you've still got the gold bug, but don't feel like freezing to death in the river. Love your videos - please keep it up!
that is dam interesting.Why is black sand attracted to a magnet?Not sure PA has much if any in the streams around here.THANKS A LOT FOR THE SHOUT OUT TO FRIEND.
Thanks. The black sand that is attracted to the magnet is mostly Magnetite / Iron, which is always found along with the Gold in my area. My idea was that if I used a magnet to collect the wet "black sand", then some gold should come along. I was right! Alright, thanks for watching! atb -KG
ok not all black sand has gold but if you find both in an area there is a good chance to get the gold out of the black sands...my method is old and dangerous but the payoff can be worth it
Klesh, an interesting alternative to straightforward panning. This method seems to work with very small particulate gold, and is relatively quick and trouble free. However, you might miss a huge gold nugget since gold is not magnetic. Another disadvantage is the magnet may not reach inside deeper pockets within the rock where gold may collect, simply as the magnet is too large to fit in tight spaces. So it's swings and roundabouts. Also, what happens if there is gold in the creek but no magnetite (magnetic oxide of iron)? No gold!
Try putting your magnet in a plastic bag, Or make a plastic housing to put it in. Then when you drag it through the stream it will collect the black sand and you can just hold it over your bucket and pull the plastic cover off and the black sand will fall off into the bucket.
Pretty cool idea, back and knee saving too as you don't need to shovel. But that will only work for flour gold I imagine. Awesome video. Gold in my area is bigger so I'll just stick to crevicing and sniping. Hope you hit a big pay streak this summer.
Wow, i know my original comment wasnt the greatest, but i do have enough common sense to appreciate your idea, the purpose of your idea, the outcome was medicocre to say the least, BUT many of the other comments are from some truly ignorant people that dont deserve to see what you were doing because they simply lack a brain ..period! Regardless of .5 grams, ive spent more time recovering gold from electronics only to ruin the chemical process and risk being burned by aqua regia, ect. Ive always had the gold fever. Love the way ANY amount of gold looks like!!
I remember when I was in the state of North Carolina gold prospecting way back in the early 2000s there was a magnet I used for gold recovery and I remember dropping it a few times behind this big rock that I was digging and throwing it in a bucket and I took all the magnetite and brush it off into a mason jar and I took it home and actually panned it out little by little like you said in your video and actually found little specks of flour gold and Tiny flakes as well back in 2002 to 2003 and 2004. So I know the strategy works cuz I tried it long ago with a kind of mistake I made by leaving the heavy magnetite in my black pan I was going to dump it out later and forgot and it was stocked in the truck and later I panned it out just seeing because I thought I seen gold glittering underneath some of the heavy magnetite. I thought it was pyrite but was not sure until I panned it out and realized it was actually gold. So I was puzzled until I realized it was because it was stuck to the magnetite from the magnet and this is why and how it was collected with a small amount of gold with the magnetite.
Yep, I believe it! Especially if I was getting small specks slamming this weaker magnet in the river against rocks etc..and still getting some gold! Thanks for watching!~
This is like watching the TV news - the one thing that you're interested in is at the end of the hour! We've learned: not to wear sandals while hiking, how to find a green pen, black sand is magnetic and how to earn 5 cents an hour. Thanks
You're not taking into account the money made off of the video. It got you to watch it and it got me to watch it. Doesn't matter if he hit the jackpot with the magnet.
Hey fellow Coloradical ! I LOVE THAT STORE MAN. Bill and Louise are the best.I was wondering if you ever swung any parks in Golden.Let me know man.l use the black sand for my roses, they love iron.Well brother you take care of yourself now. Freak out
I think the magnet is great for finding the Magnetic Sand, wherever you find concentrations, I would dig down to Hardpan, or as far as possible, Gold may be underneath, may be in a Paystreak. Also Mercury in the pan will attach to the Gold, then a Retort to separate, and reclaim your Mercury?
when I seen u magnet fishing in the river getting all that black sand in the other video,I was thinking there must be loads of gold in there and u should of panned it then!but u made this video!champion!
I too thought theirs probably some gold in that black sand in your magnet fishing video. Good to see you got some color out of it. I'm going sluicing this weekend. Keep up the videos 👍.
Hear is my thought process on gold mining in today’s rivers. Why is it that no one moves the big rocks to where they can look under them. All it takes is a nice 4 ton hoist, some cables , and a little effort.
Chris D Osborne He isn’t actually catching gold with the magnet....he is sweeping up clumps of magnetic black sand that has gold flake mixed in, but he lost all the larger flakes and heavier pieces in the process.....hopefully he dredged those areas by hand also. While his method may not be the most efficient for harvesting gold, it is a hell of a good way to quickly prospect an area for dredging.
@@Dj.MODÆO after a short thought about magnetism it is inevitable that the smaller lighter pieces of gold are trapped within the other heavier magnetic metals. It is a great way of conventional thinking to make it so simple to find gold pockets, save alot of time and effort. This is why utube is so great. 👌👍🙌
Hey man yeah I noticed that myself the last time I was panning so I was trying to make it easier for myself and extract some black sand from my Pan with z magnet and I transferred it to another Pan to realise I transferred some gold with it👍🤠⛏⛏⛏
On that note, why not process it chemically. Since iron reacts with cheap pool cleaning acid, just dump the entire bucket of black sand into the acid and call it good. What should be left at the bottom is gold, and maybe a few things that won't react with the acid...but I'm not sure what wouldn't. Suffice it to say, one of the only things that for sure won't react is the gold. I keep wonder about a way to isolate gold better...this method seems pretty promising as a start. I can't help but think that it is somewhat throwing the baby out with the bathwater to use the magnet a second time during refinement.
I put black sand in a cast iron pot with lid, and heat it in a wood fire. I use my gas blower to heat the pot cherry red. Then dump the hot sand into cold water to (crack) it. Then the gold pans out easily!!
That black sand concentrates in the way it does demonstrates why gold concentrates are found where they are. Magnetite has a specific gravity of 5.20, the hematite 5.26, with gold at 19.32; at 3x heavier than the black sands, you'd think most of the gold would fall out. Still you collected .05 g so there's likely larger quantities where you dragged your magnet.
GOLD is in Many locations worldwide. of course, if your local river is the Zambezi or the Congo this may make things a bit more difficult. hippo mothers don't care for Prospectors, the Crocs on the other hand think they're delicious!
On your Black Sands...don't dump them out...take em home, get a small rock tumbler from Harbor Freight...prefer to dry it first...then to the rock tumbler...for about 3 hours...its loud...no need to put any ball bearings, it is coarse enough as it is...now my part...put in about a 1/2 pound of Mercury...seal the rock tumbler...when it is done, you will need a mercury retort...this dangerous...know which way the wind is blowing...in your retort use about a 1/8th tsp of baking soda...using your retort...separate the gold from the mercury via heat and Nitric Acid...send me your black sands...you are missing gold...I have recovered 4oz in 150 lbs of Black Sands...in one weekend...best recovery tool is called a Gold Cube ($389.00)
Check my video on "how to recover gold from black sand", I don't use the rock tumbler, and I use very small amount of mercury to protect the environment as much as possible. Thanks for the tip
Hi, I found a large deposite of magnetite right at the mouth of the river going into Golden. To the left of the trail in a layer an inch or 2 below a sand bank. Real obvious large sandbar. Where the river slows down and gets wider. Use vibration and static eletricity to seperate.
At the very end once you separated as much as you could and have a bunch of tiny bits how do you pull just the gold out from the sand since pieces are so small?
Caleb Able the gold is not magnetic. but as it travels through the magnetic field of a vary strong, rare earth magnets energy field it will accually push not pull as it passes directly through. i didnt beileve it untill i tried for myself. its really neat. all non ferous metals respond this way to very strong magnetic fields. checkout gold dyninium. or induction. try drop a rare earth. magnet down through the center of a copper pipe if you really wana blow your mind. but the idea behind the gold sticking to the magnet is that the heavys with any luck would drag along Au and become trapped when the blacksand arcs or jumps to the magnet.
It *can* be magnetized or at least attracted. There is a book on something called a Master Magnet which is capable of attracting gold, copper and other metals. It is just complicated to build and requires an electromagnet. But it does appear to work. Here are 2 videos on it: th-cam.com/video/-9e7DBzdpQY/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/Ro2fkW6wZyI/w-d-xo.html
I have done this in Arkansas. While finding the black sand I also found a large magnetite crystal. No gold, but you only asked if anyone else had tried this technique. Mine is better though because I use a plastic bag over a rare earth magnet so that I can separate the sand easier from the magnet!
Lol i was wondering how well it would grab the gold. Realistically it is a great sampling tool if you know your gold is with the black sands in an area (ie: not on a clay layer) and avoiding spots barren of black sands instead of spending extra time digging sample holes that would be unproductive otherwise.
I have done the same thing my suggestion is to go back through the blacks and because there is fine pieces that will come up with the blacks and as well so I do it two or three different times and you'll find that you'll have non-magnetic material even after the third time
If you want to get all the black sand off your fishing magnet easily... If you cover your magnet with a plastic bag (basic breath vacuum tight ) before doping it into the creek , then when you get your catch back to your bucket you have a simple and fast method to separate all the sand from the magnet by just pulling the bag away from the magnet all the sand will drop into your bucket. .. looks like you were having a time of it getting it off.
I'm guessing lifting and dropping the magnet among the rocks will quickly put holes in the plastic bag and you would have to constantly change the bags thus adding expense and time to the job.
glad you got to see gold. one of the methods i learned from others is, when separating black sands, is to do it wet and do a triple drop in the pan. you'll see the gold dropping out. i enjoyed!
something to try that might speed things up for you a bit - place some strong plastic over the nugget ( a bag?) , secure it with velcro, go fishing. when u pull the magnet up - loosen the velcro and pull the bag off trapping the sand inside it. unless the current is too strong and flaps the plastic too much - it should work
in 1983 and 4 out of the Illinois river in California with a 4" dredge picked up black sands with Platinum in it as well as gold The illinois river is famous for its flake gold. there was a camp ground with a small creek out of the hill and i panned there and found over 3 oz of super fine gold and another person who saw me panned the rest of the water stream and said he found 5 oz. Went back in 2001 and all that area had been turned into a KOA camp ground no creek. out of the river for 3 months i had 200 lbs of Black sand i sold for 10 dollars a pound.
@@Klesh at that time thats what they were paying for Illinois black sands. there is platinum in the streams in Cottage Grove Oregon also. the largest i've seen was a 20 gram nugget..
I think that is a great way to locate gold in the stream, but I can't help but think you only retrieved a friction of what you could have found, had you removed some of the materials and panned it on the spot. You could have done both. At least to see if it is worth it. Or judge what percentage is retrievable by the magnet alone.
Regarding black sand - The magnetite portion of is easily removed with even a strong fridge magnet but, since the hematite is only slightly magnetic, a strong neodymium magnet is usually a good bet to remove all of it at once. I've heard the argument that it can also remove some of the gold but I don't think there's alot of other options that are as quick or effective - short of using mercury.
Oh you just mentioned the crevasse tool. You should try a slim Jim tool that is used to open locked vehicles,,, grind it down to a hook on one end and a flatter point on the other end,,, it will get in almost the thinnest cracks
Guys the Geodes are Mud fossils of organs of living thing that were buried during the flood they were right there around those Fossilized heads of those Giants at 2:02 in video.
what if you attached a plastic or wood dowl to that and filled the tug with water? the dowl would give you a known distance from the bottom and the water could maybe rinse gold from the flow of iron to the magnet?
Why not just use a portable dredging machine and dredge into washtubs, then separated all the big stuff, rocks, pebbles, etc., then use the magnet to get the magnetite, and into a 5 gallon bucket, and just keep processing it to get all the gold out. I don't know exactly what I just said, but it sounds good, and I think it will work.
It does sound good, unfortunately I can't carry anything too heavy due to my back injuries and I just keep it super small scale whenever I go looking for gold. I don't expect to ever find much since hard work will bring the gold, but It's all about the adventure and not the $$ for me. Thanks for watching.
Fascinating is the timely arrival of the go pro camera, we TH-cam followers have that new realm of photography available to learn of the surprises contained in the memory data storage of these beaut little cameras. You, Mr KleshGuitars, have taken the foresight to carry your camera wherever you go that may spring its surprising revelations onto the TH-cam site for inopportune others to salivate over. Thank you. WB.
Here in Washington I know of a drain pipe that drains a steep crevis/canyon where there are no houses and it drains the road surrounding it as well. I used to fish the area (Puget Sound) for Salmon, and one day at the lowest tide of the year I found where that drain pipe ended and saw tons of gold colored flake mixed with black sand. I have meant to return and collect buckets full but never got around to it. I need to check this next year when the lowest tide is and put it in my calander. I kick myself for not checking it before.
Hey try wrapping a gallon-size Ziploc bag around the magnet since you're not throwing it into the water just dropping it and bouncing it then you can pull the magnet out of the bag and all of the filings will drop
Thanks for the tip. I tried it and they just rip. I ended up using a small cloth bag with rope ties that seemed to work OK. Until that ripped too. Thanks for watching
There's also much smaller fragments of gold within the black sollution. I recommend chemical refining to be more successful at your gains. Because all you're doing is sifting out the bigger pieces and completely missing the molecular ones that can be refined using chemistry to separate the gold and the other metals so you can gets nuggets instead of flakes...
try borax to gather fine gold while separating it from the stuff after you got rid of the black dirt (i'm not sure if it would gather other metals) i just watched a video of a guy who has a little family operation and he showed it done and it worked. then he heated it and he had a beautiful chuck of gold. with the amt you had at the end you could throw on a handful of borax powder then swirl it and it will collect rapidly into a bunch to be bound when you cook, or, he torched it
I think there is a 'blue bowl' device for quickly separating gold from black sand. It uses water and gradually washes the sand away leaving the gold. If you got a few specks using a magnet, I think there was more left behind that was not picked up. I'm amazed you got any. Nice experiment... whatever works. Look up 'blue bowl', or ask your prospecting store.
Yeah there's a blue bowl machine but unfortunately it's a bigger machine that takes up too much space in my tiny apartment, so I have to do it the old fashioned way still..
What if used the same large magnet you fished with and put under a plastic pan or container and then ran dry material over it at angle (like a magnet sluice) to let all the non-magnetic fall to bottom.... would that be faster?
A magnet is a very good idea to find where good spots where the heavy stuff like metals will settle down. Look in to making a safe retort , and use mercury to save you massive time. Mercury can be used safely and environmentally friendly if you take the proper steps and precautions. Mercury can kill you dead in seconds or poison you for life with nasty effects to your nervous system, if used reckless and carelessly. Mercury can also contaminate the environment for ages if you don't use proper containment for accidental spills. Using mercury cautious, smart and safe is the ultimate way to clean up black sands pulling out only the gold with very little effort. Just know all who take risk's heating mercury without using a retort to safely collect mercury vapor/gases are stupid. And if they don't kill/poison themselves, they are ruining the environment for others. Live and let others live to.
I'd do it reversed and put the magnet at the bottom/underside of a bucket -shovel into it-and just pour the rest into another bucket -the magnetic would stay at the bottom of the bucket and the rest would go into your prosper to pan - pan. just rinse and repeat...
If you could clip on a strong but thin plastic sheet over the magnet and make your black sand pick up hold over your bucket remove plastic cover and all of the black sand will fall into your bucket it will speed up your recovery of black sand about 10 times as fast
I've been trying to figure out what to use that is both easy and quick to remove/replace and strong enough that it won't break or fall off. I have ordered a new, smoother round and large Neodymium magnet that I will be using in my upcoming magnet fishing videos. It should be much easier to remove black sand from that without the need of some kind of cover. So, stay tuned for that! Thanks for the comment and suggestion. atb -KG
It may be good to check out difficult spots for a sample but a scoop at source would be what leads me away or to further efforts with satisfaction of been there done that feeling. I would be checking for the one that got away if possible.
I'd love to do this kind of stuff where I live. Problem is any magnet I throw in the water will probably get hung on rebar or old piping or even grab all the iron out of the clay. Gulf coast and all.
Ive yet to experience the joys of prospecting, but I think i would dig out infront of big rocks in areas that resemble pocket areas. Or even move boulders around and sift through the areas they layed.
Yea I definitely should check all those areas, better than usual. THanks and hope you have some luck finding some areas to prospect. Thanks for watching! atb -KG
Hi Shane, this is Bill, the Panning Professor at Gold -N- Detectors. Thank you for the shout out and coverage. Sorry I was out when you were in on Monday. I could have told you about a customer doing this same operation more than 20 years ago. He termed it "fishing for gold". Yes, as you proved, the process works. He 'fished' off of the foot bridge near the library. To clean up his black sand, he used plastic (clean) peanut butter jars and a vertically mounted paint can shaker. After agitating the gold to the bottom of the jar, he could safely discard the black sand from the top level. Then he used that same blue finish pan to do the final separation. Enjoyed your video.
Hey Bill! Thanks for having the best prospecting store ever. I had no idea if this would work, but kind of made sense to try it. Thanks for watching! atb -KG
Thats genius!
it look like your store had a great selection for all kinds of prospecting! I can tell I would spend a pile in that place. it's like a big boy toy store or something!
@@Klesh I paused the video at 1:39 I have something I want you to look at, 1st I've been noticing for the last couple of months that there are anomalies in 99% of all videos, One that I will point out is at the time stamp 1:39, I take screenshots and zoom in and I see all kinds of strange things, At that time stamp take a screenshot, Zoom into the Gray clump of vegetation, look to the left side and there is something peeking out, looks like an elephant trunk among other things I see. I see a lot of stuff everywhere, it's crazy I know. No, I'm not tripping, So far one other channel is starting to see what I see.
@@americanrebel413 trunk at the left, at the RIGHT LOW are two FACES looking at us. WAy across the slope , way left is a darklong object. What is the object!
The good thing about panning with the black sand is seeing that contrast of the gold against the black.
Is there a sand dryer machine.
It seems that everyone is an expert.... so here's my two cents worth!
Try building a miniature fractionating table. It has a large rectangular corrugated surface, angled from top left corner to bottom right corner. A stream of wet black sand is trickled (using running water) onto the top left corner of the table, and as it drains away to the bottom right corner the elements separate, because of their differing Periodic Table weight properties.
The fractionating table has a vibrator attached to it, in the form of an electric motor with an offset weight... like an orbital sander. The vibration, and the gravity feed, does all the work for you.
Look up some stuff from old sand mining operations from the late 1960s. That's when I saw it happening in the flesh.
When I was in primary/elementary school, they took us to a sand mining refinery to see how it all worked. Down the lower side of the little rainbow spectrum of elements that appeared, as if by magic, out of the sand (on the bed of the fractionating table) there was a thin band of gold particles. They told us that there was enough gold yielded every day to fund the entire operation (which was huge, with great big earthmoving machines and a factory sized building) and that the rutile, zircon, silica, and ilmenite they were mining was all pure profit.
Hope that helps you cut down on drudge time... you'll have to build a table and do some experimenting of course... but after that, it's all cream!
Good luck man, and thanks for the vids.
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I watched this video for the second time. I have a suggestion for you, As with all suggestions if you like it , Try it, If not you know where the trash can is. Select your rocks and spots that you would prospect during good weather. when bad weather comes and the river floods, Wait for it to be safe and practical to use the magnet. You may need a pole and extra weight. You would have more of a chance for more and larger gold with the black sand if it has not had the chance to sink below the black sand. Good Fortune to You.
If put a handkerchief over the magnet, when you pull it off, all of the black sand will drop off and the magnet will stay clean and you can rinse the handkerchief from the back and get the last amount that is left on it.
Handkerchief is probably the best suggestion I've heard. I don't want to use plastic, because it's hard to clamp and will most likely break. I thought about using a crown royal bag, since it already has pull strings. Thanks for watching and the suggestion! atb -KG
And you could blow your nose with it too!
@@Klesh I use an ankle sock to do it.
Plastic bag over the magnet is cleaner and does not capture any dirt
@@billhauck6425 with a strong magnet like mine it rips if it is plastic, even a sock tears after an hour.
isn't that creek basically a giant sluice box.....your magnet is separating the gold from the black sand before you even get it out of the creek....the majority of the gold is still in the spot where the magnet landed in the water....just with less black sand around it....separating the magnetics after you baked it is pretty much a smaller scale of how you gathered your material back at the creek.....think of all the gold you left behind .....would't it be better to just grab a bucket of dirt from the creek bottom then separate it later to get ALL the gold in one spot
Yes definitely better to grab a bucket of the black sand and then pan it, this was just an experiment that worked a little bit! Thanks for watchin! -KleshGuitars
that's kinda what I think too.
I would get s sort of curved pry/shovel that would actually dig deeper and have a chance to retain some fallen-off gold(?) .... and some "bar", magnets that would also penetrate the sand.
I would think the magnet idea works but of course only picks up the flakes of gold that are superior to the iron oxide(or whatever it is). That is slightly above the metallic stuff, but within the bulk of the metallic stuff.
I think I'm going to do some drawings ....
The big difference is wet vs dry. Wet, a concentration of black sand will hold the gold with it due to surface tension. (same reason we add jet dry when panning). Dry, it's much easier to pull off the magnetics, leaving the gold in the blonds.
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Clear Creek gold tends to be very fine so there is not much chance of flakes or pickers that you loosing out on.
I was just in that area a couple of weeks ago. We stopped on the side of the hwy and I filled up 2 thirstbuster cups with dirt and rock and panned it when I got back home in Florida. Found a bunch of fine gold and a couple of flakes,,,and also what I think is silver. I love that area up there!
Jason's Out There excellent! I love it here in CO. Atb -KG
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Gold is paramagnetic, not nonmagnetic. Actually, anything that is nonmagnetic can be attracted to a strong magnet. You can use a very strong magnet to bend a stream of water.
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Jason's Out There he bro is this Stevens ,this Eric lake from back in the day
I know your comment was a while ago but I wanted to warn you that oftentimes the “silver” stuff is amalgam of gold and mercury. I’ve run into a bit of it in streams left from the old miners.
That rock/piece of metal you found at 14:48 might have been a meteorite. Worth more than gold. But you probably know that. Very cool video! Subscribing.
OK friend, I'm a locksmith among other things and I install Magnetic locks that are 12/24v. AC. Now I watched a video of a guy who stopped a gold coin from rolling using a AC magnet. You would need an Inverter for the field and water proof reinforced cabling but one of my Mag locks can hold depending on the model from 600 to 1300 lbs... Kind of makes you think don't it?
Nice Douglas Ives, Cool story!
I'm a 65 year old first time prospector and I'm loving the idea of saving my back by not doing a lot of digging. May I ask what the lifting capacity of the magnet is? Thank you for your time.
Stronger the better
I used a 2"x1" in VT and pick up lot of sand
I did ok after the hurricane irean
put your magnet in a zip lock then take it out to release the black sand......much faster and you don't loose any.
most off the gold is below the black sand, you left it there.
pull it out with your pvc suction tube and run it thru a bazooka sluice.
R Zinger sounds good, thanks for watching! atb -KG
R Zinger excellent idea.
Any thing to use as an outer magnet covering would be much cleaner for sure.
I was going to suggest this
Bazooka Sluice is amazing.
KleshGuitars - maybe using a little vibration would make the black and gold particles fluid enough to separate easily .
I never tried magnet fishing,,although I heard that you could get your limit in steelhead trout fairly easily.....lol..
Thanks rockytop wrangler for watching!
I did watch the entire video was very interesting I have used a magnet for pulling black sand out of concentrates. The electric panning wheel with the spiral riffels works really good I had one back in the late 70's and 80s , for the short time I had it I recovered approx 20-35 lbs of black sand and out of that maybe 1oz.of free gold.
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That was a pretty clever idea. Using a magnet. Thanks for sharing!
The thought occurs to me that while you are 'Magnet Fishing for Gold', and only coming up with small particles of it, you could be missing out on the nuggets. If there is gold dust in that stream, there are bound to be a few good sized nuggets as well.
What you should do if you want to find more than just dust, is use the magnet fishing to test a location behind a big rock, panning it out as you go to help identify where the gold can be found. If you get a good hit of gold dust in one spot, either mark it for later work, or go to the next stage immediately, digging out deeper down where the heavier bits would go. If you find heavier bits in the spot, you know there is likely to be even more there. Like all such endeavors, it will be a hit and miss thing, but the payoff could be pretty good if you remember where you got the gold dust from and go back to those spots to look for larger bits of gold.
Thanks for the comment and yeah I agree. I cannot dig very much due to back injuries but if I were to dig down to bedrock pretty much anywhere on this river, I'd be in the nuggets. This was just an experimental video to see if it would work. Thanks for writing and watching!
Did not know about your back problem. I hope you can get some kind of relief for that soon, as it is no fun having that kind of pain. I suffer from time to time with mine as well, and sometimes it feels like I'm being broke in half.
That said, I wish I could be there with you on some of your trips, prospecting for gold. I think it would be very interesting. And what you are doing is showing the rest of us that there is still gold to be found out there in more than a few places on this world.
Thanks again!
here is a trick I use, put the magnet in a zip lock baggie, zip it shut around the rope, get most of the air out. When you pull it up hold the bag and magnet in the bucket and remove the magnet from the bag. the black sand will drop off once the magnet is pulled out, put the magnet in the bag and repeat. It works, bring extra baggies they get tore up on the rocks. Good luck.
Thanks for that tip, I actually ended up coming up with a solution in a later video that isn't a bag, and works great! Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching , also Happy New Year! -KleshGuitars
Did this in a similar manner just to clean from lots of black sands.....used magnet inside a ziplock plastic bag,,worked pretty well,,much easier than cleaning off the magnet every pass.... Gold-N-Detectors...Good people,,bought lots of stuff there over the years,,gold fever seems to pull cash right out of your pocket....too many things you got to have,,,one method or another....
Thanks rockytop wrangler for watching!
The main reason I clicked on your video,was because of the Title,...and most importantly is the fact that "YOU DARED TO THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX!" I Love the way a Trained thinker dare go outside to explore other ways not in the Text Book's! I also love the idea behind your technique. It may,or may not be old,"But it's new's to a wanna be Rookie like me who is exploring the idea of looking for Gold! "Thanks's!
Thanks for watching! -KleshGuitars
Used to do this in cherry creek when we were kids. We collect the magnetite and then dad would put cyanide solution in the buckets to leach the gold out of the mag. Great video took me back to the '80s.
Cool! That cyanide solution idea among others are good ways to get a lot more gold out. Maybe in a future video I can do something like this. Thanks for watching! atb -KG
Jay Hanes
Is there a safe (environmentally speaking) way to dispose of the cyanide solution? I'd like to try this if I can do it without killing stuff.
no one got cyanide poisoning out of this method ?
They probably couldn't tell if that were the case
@@dmoted09 there is another word for cyanide poisoning, its called death
Shane is the hardest working guy I know. You can learn a lot from him.
Thank you! Been puzzling for ages about how to get samples out from under a waterfall. Magnet and line are in the post.
I got my first gold pan there...along with a bad case of "THE FEVER" ..very hard to cure for a resident of central Ohio😖..sadly I just lost that pan this weekend in a moment of rookieness (yeah I think that's a word😋)...turned my back for just a second and the current swiped it away..Any way love that shop and all of Golden! Good luck and can't wait to see your next prospecting adventure! Cheers!
Too bad about you losing your pan. Good luck with your prospecting adventures! Thanks for watching! atb -KG
Chris Smith
Do you think it's possible to find gold in central Kentucky? I know probably not likely
How about this for an idea..... Get a large clear plastic bottle,,, shovel in sand / gravel,,, shake,,, look at the very bottom to se if there is gold to then recover????. I'm going to try it in Scotland 🌄
That's a really simple and genius idea. I might have to try this for a video! Thanks man! atb -KG
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I can't wait to get to the hills... My car is waiting for a new engine at the mo... 😠. ... Wish I lived in the states for 'big country' 🌅
Black n Tan, Dowsing rods will show you where to dig. I have been using Dowsing rods for 8 years and they never miss.
John... Interesting,,, I’m up for trying that. ... I was up the hills just before Christmas... only had a few checks in a river... I found gavel and sand!!! Yeh😁
We always used magnets over our sluices to remove the magnetics...
We called it the magnetic bridge. Magnets in a wooden box...
Oh, and try an orbital pattern when panning.
Thank you Pat Tiekamp!
orbital is amateur. it works but not efficient
I'm loving what you're doing! My sister and I spent several weeks each summer with our grandma and her husband Foster. They always took us out on a fun weekend adventure, my favorite was panning for gold! You're living the life I wish I could live...Thanks!!
Lynn in Law Vegas!
Thanks Lynn Newcomb-Hrnciar glad you enjoyed it!
use to use a wet vac ( gen & 100' cord from truck ) to vacuum out the pockets of visible gold / black sand at 11 mile canyon near the Springs come home and pan . Water was so cold it would cramp up hands when first trying to scoop it out manually.This was in the 80's ( gold at @$850 oz ) , now who knows ? Back then the rangers rarely patrolled .
Cool did you find some decent gold?
Interesting method..I just wonder if you are leaving a lot of potential gold behind as this "capture by association" method would seem to indicate that only very fine placer gold will be scooped up with any iron powder flakes. A shovel full of gravel and sand might get you an honest to god nugget someday....no?
you never know - Thanks for watching!
I wonder how long it would take to gather enough of that ferrous/iron to cast a ingot of iron. Hahaha.
Theres a guy on youtube that made a PVC hand pump that allows you to vacuum waaay out to get gold..i would like to see you try it before it gets too cold..
Seeking TKO - I actually have one of those. I built it but never used it, maybe I'll give it a try this summer. Lots planned though, but I should get to it! Thanks for watching! atb -KG
The gold that was picked up by the first magnet was mostly a by-catch to the black sand that was being picked up, as evidenced by the second cleanup which left the gold in the pan after using the second magnet.
I agree Peter Szwed, and thanks for watching!
Yes, I have done this in Arizona many years ago ( I am 73 yrs old). I used a speaker magnet. I also suggest you crush your residual black sand and pan it again. If you want to get more technical, wash the black sand (let it sit awhile) in nitric acid. Be careful to flood flush with water to remove the nitric acid and do this outdoors. Nitric acid is dangerous stuff.
Thanks for the comment eman. I do have a video going through the process of extracting the gold from black sand using Nitric acid and mercury. Thanks for watching!
Wait though, gold in not magnetic though, what am i missing?
never mind , had to watch longer to figure out what the magnet was for
Hey would ya look at that it worked !!! very cool and golden detectors is my favorite prospecting store I've got all my supply's there. way to go man !
Thanks for the suggestion and Thanks for watching! atb -KG
KleshGuitars what is the purpose for adding JetDry?
Jessica Muldivici jet dry acts as a surfactant that breaks the surface tension of the water, preventing the very small flakes of gold from floating away. Thanks for asking!
KleshGuitars very interesting. Thank you for sharing that tip!
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You might try wrapping your magnet like a gift, using heavy duty saran wrap, or industrial stretch wrap, securing it with rubber bands. Much easier to recover the sand from the magnet by simply unwrapping it in your bucket. Great idea though, and you never know what else you might pick up with your magnet. If it was me, I'd run your sands through a miller table. Very effective, but somewhat time consuming. This might make a good project for those cold winter days when you've still got the gold bug, but don't feel like freezing to death in the river. Love your videos - please keep it up!
Thank you Ed Newhouse!
What type, size and strength of magnet are you using to pull the black sand from the dry concentration of material?
You can purchase them on kleshgold.com in the gold prospecting section
that is dam interesting.Why is black sand attracted to a magnet?Not sure PA has much if any in the streams around here.THANKS A LOT FOR THE SHOUT OUT TO FRIEND.
Thanks. The black sand that is attracted to the magnet is mostly Magnetite / Iron, which is always found along with the Gold in my area. My idea was that if I used a magnet to collect the wet "black sand", then some gold should come along. I was right! Alright, thanks for watching! atb -KG
you are welcome great vids
because it's magnetic duh
ok not all black sand has gold but if you find both in an area there is a good chance to get the gold out of the black sands...my method is old and dangerous but the payoff can be worth it
I have been watching you're video's for 4 dang hours help me
open the pen ?
I threw it away :(
Klesh, an interesting alternative to straightforward panning. This method seems to work with very small particulate gold, and is relatively quick and trouble free. However, you might miss a huge gold nugget since gold is not magnetic. Another disadvantage is the magnet may not reach inside deeper pockets within the rock where gold may collect, simply as the magnet is too large to fit in tight spaces. So it's swings and roundabouts. Also, what happens if there is gold in the creek but no magnetite (magnetic oxide of iron)? No gold!
@@evangrunwald9877 Evan -- Would it be quicker to get rich owning gold shares? Then you wouldn't have to go panning.
Try putting your magnet in a plastic bag, Or make a plastic housing to put it in. Then when you drag it through the stream it will collect the black sand and you can just hold it over your bucket and pull the plastic cover off and the black sand will fall off into the bucket.
Pretty cool idea, back and knee saving too as you don't need to shovel. But that will only work for flour gold I imagine. Awesome video. Gold in my area is bigger so I'll just stick to crevicing and sniping. Hope you hit a big pay streak this summer.
I was surprised I got so much gold from doing it this way, it's as much as I get from hours of sluicing. Thanks for watching! atb -KG
You need a miller table to separate it efficiently
Wow, i know my original comment wasnt the greatest, but i do have enough common sense to appreciate your idea, the purpose of your idea, the outcome was medicocre to say the least, BUT many of the other comments are from some truly ignorant people that dont deserve to see what you were doing because they simply lack a brain
..period! Regardless of .5 grams, ive spent more time recovering gold from electronics only to ruin the chemical process and risk being burned by aqua regia, ect. Ive always had the gold fever. Love the way ANY amount of gold looks like!!
I remember when I was in the state of North Carolina gold prospecting way back in the early 2000s there was a magnet I used for gold recovery and I remember dropping it a few times behind this big rock that I was digging and throwing it in a bucket and I took all the magnetite and brush it off into a mason jar and I took it home and actually panned it out little by little like you said in your video and actually found little specks of flour gold and Tiny flakes as well back in 2002 to 2003 and 2004. So I know the strategy works cuz I tried it long ago with a kind of mistake I made by leaving the heavy magnetite in my black pan I was going to dump it out later and forgot and it was stocked in the truck and later I panned it out just seeing because I thought I seen gold glittering underneath some of the heavy magnetite. I thought it was pyrite but was not sure until I panned it out and realized it was actually gold. So I was puzzled until I realized it was because it was stuck to the magnetite from the magnet and this is why and how it was collected with a small amount of gold with the magnetite.
Yep, I believe it! Especially if I was getting small specks slamming this weaker magnet in the river against rocks etc..and still getting some gold! Thanks for watching!~
No problem I also just subscribed and following you.
If you know there is gold there, could you go back and pan for bigger pieces of gold?
My man Shane. I just picked this video out of thin air and look who I found. His channel is the best.
This is like watching the TV news - the one thing that you're interested in is at the end of the hour!
We've learned: not to wear sandals while hiking, how to find a green pen, black sand is magnetic and how to earn 5 cents an hour. Thanks
You're welcome! Thanks for the comment and Thanks for watching! atb -KG
lol
You're not taking into account the money made off of the video. It got you to watch it and it got me to watch it. Doesn't matter if he hit the jackpot with the magnet.
NevR mind... looks az tho you sorted it out at home (stopped midway and posted. duh 4 me
Hey fellow Coloradical ! I LOVE THAT STORE MAN. Bill and Louise are the best.I was wondering if you ever swung any parks in Golden.Let me know man.l use the black sand for my roses, they love iron.Well brother you take care of yourself now. Freak out
They helped me get started when I first got into prospecting, Gold-N-Detectors is great! Thanks for watching! atb -KG
KleshGuitars bought my first gold pan out there ...were in Lakewood😁
how are thetiny flakes of Gold separated from the sand etc in the pan?
Acid would be the easiest way.
I think the magnet is great for finding the Magnetic Sand, wherever you find concentrations, I would dig down to Hardpan, or as far as possible, Gold may be underneath, may be in a Paystreak. Also Mercury in the pan will attach to the Gold, then a Retort to separate, and reclaim your Mercury?
Good Idea Randy Aivaz! Thanks for watching!
Man I found a great place on the Nisqually this week and I have a microwave to kill.
Look up to the Swak and Bluet Pass
when I seen u magnet fishing in the river getting all that black sand in the other video,I was thinking there must be loads of gold in there and u should of panned it then!but u made this video!champion!
Thanks! Yeah I thought the same thing as well but a commenter pushed me to go back and do it. Thanks for watching! atb -KG
I too thought theirs probably some gold in that black sand in your magnet fishing video. Good to see you got some color out of it. I'm going sluicing this weekend. Keep up the videos 👍.
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KleshGuitars
The finger breaking magnets make me nervous
Oh yeah...THey're no joke! Thanks for watching
@@Klesh did you receive a very angry letter from the owner of that pen/possible cache?
not yet! Thanks for watching!
In our machine shop we have magnets that "turn off" with the turn of a lever. It's a strong magnet too. And portable
Thanks for watching!
Hear is my thought process on gold mining in today’s rivers.
Why is it that no one moves the big rocks to where they can look under them.
All it takes is a nice 4 ton hoist, some cables , and a little effort.
They do, and there's gold under them. Thanks for watching!
? Amazed I have always found gold to be a non magnetic metal.
Chris D Osborne He isn’t actually catching gold with the magnet....he is sweeping up clumps of magnetic black sand that has gold flake mixed in, but he lost all the larger flakes and heavier pieces in the process.....hopefully he dredged those areas by hand also. While his method may not be the most efficient for harvesting gold, it is a hell of a good way to quickly prospect an area for dredging.
@@Dj.MODÆO after a short thought about magnetism it is inevitable that the smaller lighter pieces of gold are trapped within the other heavier magnetic metals. It is a great way of conventional thinking to make it so simple to find gold pockets, save alot of time and effort. This is why utube is so great. 👌👍🙌
I know the flour gold is trapped between particles of black sand and is picked up with it , the gold is non magnetc
@@frederickbierweiler8020 it is a great life hack.
keep your black sand there is still gold in it. it will be flea poop and fly poop sized run it through a miller table to recover all the fines.😊
THanks, yes I keep all my black sands! Thanks for watching! atb -KG
KleshGuitars what about pieces of metal / potentiial meteorites?
where can a Miller table be found anymore
you can make a miller table for about 100 dollars sometimes cheaper if you get a good deal on a small electric pump
Hey man yeah I noticed that myself the last time I was panning so I was trying to make it easier for myself and extract some black sand from my Pan with z magnet and I transferred it to another Pan to realise I transferred some gold with it👍🤠⛏⛏⛏
On that note, why not process it chemically. Since iron reacts with cheap pool cleaning acid, just dump the entire bucket of black sand into the acid and call it good. What should be left at the bottom is gold, and maybe a few things that won't react with the acid...but I'm not sure what wouldn't. Suffice it to say, one of the only things that for sure won't react is the gold. I keep wonder about a way to isolate gold better...this method seems pretty promising as a start. I can't help but think that it is somewhat throwing the baby out with the bathwater to use the magnet a second time during refinement.
I wonder if those pieces where higher in impurities? 😁
I put black sand in a cast iron pot with lid, and heat it in a wood fire. I use my gas blower to heat the pot cherry red. Then dump the hot sand into cold water to (crack) it. Then the gold pans out easily!!
That black sand concentrates in the way it does demonstrates why gold concentrates are found where they are. Magnetite has a specific gravity of 5.20, the hematite 5.26, with gold at 19.32; at 3x heavier than the black sands, you'd think most of the gold would fall out. Still you collected .05 g so there's likely larger quantities where you dragged your magnet.
Yes there will be larger quantities of gold where the magnet picked up the black sand for sure!
FUCK!!! You just made me want to move to the states to go Gold fishing.
LOL come on! there's plenty out here to find
Oh yea? I was just going to Greece to test new theory using black sand. Forget Colorado!
Any Ideas for South Africa? Greece is only Great for a holiday .
KleshGuitars Which rivers are ideal, please i got to know and than u very much
GOLD is in Many locations worldwide. of course, if your local river is the Zambezi or the Congo this may make things a bit more difficult. hippo mothers don't care for Prospectors, the Crocs on the other hand think they're delicious!
On your Black Sands...don't dump them out...take em home, get a small rock tumbler from Harbor Freight...prefer to dry it first...then to the rock tumbler...for about 3 hours...its loud...no need to put any ball bearings, it is coarse enough as it is...now my part...put in about a 1/2 pound of Mercury...seal the rock tumbler...when it is done, you will need a mercury retort...this dangerous...know which way the wind is blowing...in your retort use about a 1/8th tsp of baking soda...using your retort...separate the gold from the mercury via heat and Nitric Acid...send me your black sands...you are missing gold...I have recovered 4oz in 150 lbs of Black Sands...in one weekend...best recovery tool is called a Gold Cube ($389.00)
Check my video on "how to recover gold from black sand", I don't use the rock tumbler, and I use very small amount of mercury to protect the environment as much as possible. Thanks for the tip
Good way to get mercury poisoning
is this process still legal?
I need a big magnet!
Hi, I found a large deposite of magnetite right at the mouth of the river going into Golden. To the left of the trail in a layer an inch or 2 below a sand bank. Real obvious large sandbar. Where the river slows down and gets wider. Use vibration and static eletricity to seperate.
Thanks for the suggestions, I haven't checked that area yet!
At the very end once you separated as much as you could and have a bunch of tiny bits how do you pull just the gold out from the sand since pieces are so small?
Gold isn't magnetic.
No it isn't but the wet magnetite around it is! Good observation Caleb Able! Thanks for watching! More videos to come! atb -KG
Caleb Able the gold is not magnetic. but as it travels through the magnetic field of a vary strong, rare earth magnets energy field it will accually push not pull as it passes directly through. i didnt beileve it untill i tried for myself. its really neat. all non ferous metals respond this way to very strong magnetic fields. checkout gold dyninium. or induction. try drop a rare earth. magnet down through the center of a copper pipe if you really wana blow your mind. but the idea behind the gold sticking to the magnet is that the heavys with any luck would drag along Au and become trapped when the blacksand arcs or jumps to the magnet.
KleshGuitars very interesting.
It *can* be magnetized or at least attracted. There is a book on something called a Master Magnet which is capable of attracting gold, copper and other metals. It is just complicated to build and requires an electromagnet. But it does appear to work. Here are 2 videos on it:
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Caleb Able you missed the entire point of what he was doing jackass.
You realize gold and silver are not magnetic dont you?
Yes I do! Thanks for watching!
Great video Shane! It's quite mesmerising watching black sands dance under a magnet like that. Cheers.✌️
Thanks for watching! -KleshGuitars
I have done this in Arkansas. While finding the black sand I also found a large magnetite crystal. No gold, but you only asked if anyone else had tried this technique. Mine is better though because I use a plastic bag over a rare earth magnet so that I can separate the sand easier from the magnet!
Thanks Kevin Miller for watching!
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Lol i was wondering how well it would grab the gold.
Realistically it is a great sampling tool if you know your gold is with the black sands in an area (ie: not on a clay layer) and avoiding spots barren of black sands instead of spending extra time digging sample holes that would be unproductive otherwise.
I’ll be given it a go because where I go there is a lote of fine Gold and Heaps of real fine black Sand and big magnetics as well
I have done the same thing my suggestion is to go back through the blacks and because there is fine pieces that will come up with the blacks and as well so I do it two or three different times and you'll find that you'll have non-magnetic material even after the third time
If you want to get all the black sand off your fishing magnet easily...
If you cover your magnet with a plastic bag (basic breath vacuum tight ) before doping it into the creek , then when you get your catch back to your bucket you have a simple and fast method to separate all the sand from the magnet by just pulling the bag away from the magnet all the sand will drop into your bucket. .. looks like you were having a time of it getting it off.
I'm guessing lifting and dropping the magnet among the rocks will quickly put holes in the plastic bag and you would have to constantly change the bags thus adding expense and time to the job.
read below..but thanks for the suggestion
glad you got to see gold. one of the methods i learned from others is, when separating black sands, is to do it wet and do a triple drop in the pan. you'll see the gold dropping out. i enjoyed!
Interesting. Thanks for watching!
something to try that might speed things up for you a bit - place some strong plastic over the nugget ( a bag?) , secure it with velcro, go fishing. when u pull the magnet up - loosen the velcro and pull the bag off trapping the sand inside it. unless the current is too strong and flaps the plastic too much - it should work
Thanks for the tip, I thought about it but was 99% sure the bag would either end up down the river or ripped or both. Thanks for watching! atb - KG
There are a few gold pieces in there but all the shiny stuff is not gold.
That's true!
All that glitters is not gold
If you put the magnet in a fairly thick plastic bag, you'll find it MUCH easier to get the black sand off the magnet.
Tried it, but ended up using some JB Weld to coat the magnet and that works the best. Thanks for watching!
in 1983 and 4 out of the Illinois river in California with a 4" dredge picked up black sands with Platinum in it as well as gold The illinois river is famous for its flake gold. there was a camp ground with a small creek out of the hill and i panned there and found over 3 oz of super fine gold and another person who saw me panned the rest of the water stream and said he found 5 oz. Went back in 2001 and all that area had been turned into a KOA camp ground no creek. out of the river for 3 months i had 200 lbs of Black sand i sold for 10 dollars a pound.
You can sell black sand for $10 a pound? Who's your buyer! LOL
@@Klesh at that time thats what they were paying for Illinois black sands. there is platinum in the streams in Cottage Grove Oregon also. the largest i've seen was a 20 gram nugget..
I think that is a great way to locate gold in the stream, but I can't help but think you only retrieved a friction of what you could have found, had you removed some of the materials and panned it on the spot. You could have done both. At least to see if it is worth it. Or judge what percentage is retrievable by the magnet alone.
Yeah for sure I missed most of the gold. This was a fun experiment thanks for watching!
Regarding black sand - The magnetite portion of is easily removed with even a strong fridge magnet but, since the hematite is only slightly magnetic, a strong neodymium magnet is usually a good bet to remove all of it at once. I've heard the argument that it can also remove some of the gold but I don't think there's alot of other options that are as quick or effective - short of using mercury.
Yeah - I did just purchase a pretty big (50mm x 20mm N52 Neodymium magnet. Stay tuned for those videos..Thanks for watching! atb -KG
Oh you just mentioned the crevasse tool. You should try a slim Jim tool that is used to open locked vehicles,,, grind it down to a hook on one end and a flatter point on the other end,,, it will get in almost the thinnest cracks
Pretty good idea. Thanks!
Guys the Geodes are Mud fossils of organs of living thing that were buried during the flood they were right there around those Fossilized heads of those Giants at 2:02 in video.
Thanks badaboomrock for watching!
what if you attached a plastic or wood dowl to that and filled the tug with water? the dowl would give you a known distance from the bottom and the water could maybe rinse gold from the flow of iron to the magnet?
Cool idea thanks
where do you find a big powerful magnet?
Why not just use a portable dredging machine and dredge into washtubs, then separated all the big stuff, rocks, pebbles, etc., then use the magnet to get the magnetite, and into a 5 gallon bucket, and just keep processing it to get all the gold out. I don't know exactly what I just said, but it sounds good, and I think it will work.
It does sound good, unfortunately I can't carry anything too heavy due to my back injuries and I just keep it super small scale whenever I go looking for gold. I don't expect to ever find much since hard work will bring the gold, but It's all about the adventure and not the $$ for me. Thanks for watching.
I'm so sad that Gold 'n Detectors is gone, it's fun to see the inside again!
Fascinating is the timely arrival of the go pro camera, we TH-cam followers have that new realm of photography available to learn of the surprises contained in the memory data storage of these beaut little cameras. You, Mr KleshGuitars, have taken the foresight to carry your camera wherever you go that may spring its surprising revelations onto the TH-cam site for inopportune others to salivate over. Thank you. WB.
Thanks William B glad you enjoyed it!
Here in Washington I know of a drain pipe that drains a steep crevis/canyon where there are no houses and it drains the road surrounding it as well. I used to fish the area (Puget Sound) for Salmon, and one day at the lowest tide of the year I found where that drain pipe ended and saw tons of gold colored flake mixed with black sand. I have meant to return and collect buckets full but never got around to it. I need to check this next year when the lowest tide is and put it in my calander. I kick myself for not checking it before.
Make a video!
Make a hand dredge and scoop up bucket loads from a small boat. Then all you need is low tide and calm water,
Hey try wrapping a gallon-size Ziploc bag around the magnet since you're not throwing it into the water just dropping it and bouncing it then you can pull the magnet out of the bag and all of the filings will drop
Thanks for the tip. I tried it and they just rip. I ended up using a small cloth bag with rope ties that seemed to work OK. Until that ripped too. Thanks for watching
There's also much smaller fragments of gold within the black sollution. I recommend chemical refining to be more successful at your gains. Because all you're doing is sifting out the bigger pieces and completely missing the molecular ones that can be refined using chemistry to separate the gold and the other metals so you can gets nuggets instead of flakes...
Thanks for the info and Thanks for watching ! atb -KleshGuitars
try borax to gather fine gold while separating it from the stuff after you got rid of the black dirt (i'm not sure if it would gather other metals) i
just watched a video of a guy who has a little family operation and he showed it done and it worked. then he heated it and he had a beautiful chuck of gold. with the amt you had at the end you could throw on a handful of borax powder then swirl it and it will collect rapidly into a bunch to be bound when you cook, or, he torched it
A little more to it than just adding borax, but yes I've seen the process by a family in the Philippines (i think) thanks for watching!
I think there is a 'blue bowl' device for quickly separating gold from black sand. It uses water and gradually washes the sand away leaving the gold. If you got a few specks using a magnet, I think there was more left behind that was not picked up. I'm amazed you got any. Nice experiment... whatever works. Look up 'blue bowl', or ask your prospecting store.
Yeah there's a blue bowl machine but unfortunately it's a bigger machine that takes up too much space in my tiny apartment, so I have to do it the old fashioned way still..
What if used the same large magnet you fished with and put under a plastic pan or container and then ran dry material over it at angle (like a magnet sluice) to let all the non-magnetic fall to bottom.... would that be faster?
It could work, but the gold can still get trapped that way. Having the black sand "jump up" to the magnet ensures the gold can't get trapped again.
A magnet is a very good idea to find where good spots where the heavy stuff like metals will settle down. Look in to making a safe retort , and use mercury to save you massive time.
Mercury can be used safely and environmentally friendly if you take the proper steps and precautions. Mercury can kill you dead in seconds or poison you for life with nasty effects to your nervous system, if used reckless and carelessly. Mercury can also contaminate the environment for ages if you don't use proper containment for accidental spills.
Using mercury cautious, smart and safe is the ultimate way to clean up black sands pulling out only the gold with very little effort.
Just know all who take risk's heating mercury without using a retort to safely collect mercury vapor/gases are stupid. And if they don't kill/poison themselves, they are ruining the environment for others. Live and let others live to.
I do plan on doing a gold recovery from black sand using mercury video, most likely in the next month or two. Thanks for watching ! atb -KleshGuitars
I'd do it reversed and put the magnet at the bottom/underside of a bucket -shovel into it-and just pour the rest into another bucket -the magnetic would stay at the bottom of the bucket and the rest would go into your prosper to pan - pan. just rinse and repeat...
If you could clip on a strong but thin plastic sheet over the magnet and make your black sand pick up hold over your bucket remove plastic cover and all of the black sand will fall into your bucket it will speed up your recovery of black sand about 10 times as fast
I've been trying to figure out what to use that is both easy and quick to remove/replace and strong enough that it won't break or fall off. I have ordered a new, smoother round and large Neodymium magnet that I will be using in my upcoming magnet fishing videos. It should be much easier to remove black sand from that without the need of some kind of cover. So, stay tuned for that! Thanks for the comment and suggestion. atb -KG
It may be good to check out difficult spots for a sample but a scoop at source would be what leads me away or to further efforts with satisfaction of been there done that feeling. I would be checking for the one that got away if possible.
I'd love to do this kind of stuff where I live. Problem is any magnet I throw in the water will probably get hung on rebar or old piping or even grab all the iron out of the clay. Gulf coast and all.
Thanks Jeauxeph Shadeaux for watching!
Ive yet to experience the joys of prospecting, but I think i would dig out infront of big rocks in areas that resemble pocket areas. Or even move boulders around and sift through the areas they layed.
Yea I definitely should check all those areas, better than usual. THanks and hope you have some luck finding some areas to prospect. Thanks for watching! atb -KG