Thank you for doing what you do my man. I’m a driver for a well pump and water treatment supply warehouse. Over the last couple weeks I’ve been inspired to find out exactly what the stuff I’m delivering does and how it all comes together to make a well system, and you’re consistently putting out videos about everything I need to know. You’re inspiring me to go back to school and get my plumbing license. Thank you again
I was worried if this pump would work in one of my wells. Your video demonstrated the it should work fine at 40’ depth. I bought it, I dropped it down about 3 days ago and it works great. Your video saved me a lot money and had my well been deeper I would have passed on this pump. I have watched every one of H20 Mechanics videos, most of them more than once which means now I know just enough to be dangerous!
I have a 2.5" 1/2 HP pump that has the same or very similar check valve, I haven't even tried it, just bought a good brass check valve and put it on. If I remember correctly even my Grundfos pump recommended using one External check valve for added safety. Mine produces practically the same pressure as that, but being 2.5" the flow is somewhat lower. I bought the 2.5" one because at that time I already had a 1 HP and 3" Grundfos and a 2 HP and 4" one from some Italian manufacturer that I can't remember right now installed in the well, I didn't want them touching the pipe (it's 8 inches internal diameter) or each other, so I chose the slimmer model available. In the end the 2HP produced much more flow than it needed and logically it also consumed more electricity, so I ended up removing it, originally it was supplying my grandpa's dairy farm but they retired in the early 90s. Now I have enough with the 1HP Grundfos to do some irrigation and the half HP to fill the cistern that supplies my home. I purchased the 0.5 HP pump because I installed a Cintropur NW500 filter housing with 10 micron filter element and with a lower flow rate it almost does not produce any pressure drop that would become an extra electricity expense. With the Grundfos it had 1.9 BAR of pressure drop with a brand new 10 micron filter element and almost 4 BAR when it got dirty... with the 0.5 HP even with a dirty filter element the pressure drop never reach 1 BAR. The filter housing came from factory with 50 or 60 micron filter elements and with those the 1HP Grundfos was fine, but I don't want any sand on the cistern because the output is about 2 cm over the bottom and it would be difficult to clean. As soon as the filter element gets superficially dirty the rest of the sand falls to the bottom of the bowl so I really only change the filter element every couple of months for hygiene reasons but it seems like it would take a year or more for it to clog... By the way the well is only 25 meters deep, the pumps are 20 meters from ground level and I have never seen the water level go lower than about 8 meters from ground level. Yesterday it was at 1.9 meters from ground level.
Just sent a 3 HP Vevor down the well after one heck of a fight getting the old, dead pump up and replaced. Your videos helped for sure. The pump has been great so far
@foox2k Died within a month, most likely due to not being protected from the shock of starting and too much power for the flow rate. Do more homework than i did, and you may be okay. Paid a well service later (big $$) to replace with a high end pump. My well is 440 feet deep, so ymmv
@@tyyelvington2923 hi, do you think a 2 hp vevor works for my 55 foot deep well? Think i need a pressure tank? The water is for a home. Sorry for mi English, im still learning.
DO IT LOCAL!….. also make it a video when you do it. A lot of people out there need help and it is nice to see someone willing to help. I’ve watched other channels on TH-cam start charities to pay for services to those in need, if you ever do that I got the 1st $100 to ya.
This video should drive home the point to read the capabilities of whatever you are looking for to make sure it will do what you need. If those people that had problems had read the instructions or before buying the pump looked up the specifications they would have known that this is not the kind of pump they needed. I have multiple wells depths from 1000 feet on my ranch to 250 feet on others. I hired a well specialist like you to determine what was needed from the well drilling, casing pump, piping and all the other components to make it work as needed. Moral to the story is get an expert to do things like this that you don't know enough about. Maybe in China their wells are 50 feet deep and they consider that deep. Who knows? Very good information!
Vevor just came out of no where... Never heard of them a year ago, now they make everything from well pumps to power tools to fog machines, to jigs, to welding equipemnt, to everything.... Just seems to be a jack of all trades company, jack out a ton of items from chinese factories that produce other products and slap their name on it.
Like my last 3 online orders have been vevor....not because I like them...but more because they seem to make everything. I even noticed the logo at my dentists office.
Where I live in Calif. We have to have water for the fire department so my well pump Is at 225' and fills my 5000 gal. Tank we have a separate pressure pump to supply our bladder tank
These pumps are great.I have one at my cottage.Down a 65ft well.put down in the well 30ft Lots of pressure pressure switch set at 40/60 Is hooked to a pressure tank as well. Builds pressure within seconds Great pump 200$ very impressed
So glad I found this video. I bought this pump to pump from a well to a storage tank about 100' above the well. Pump would be set 90' down the well. I doubted its capabilities to do what I need and decided to use it to pump from that storage tank up the hill to another tank where I will have enough elevation to use gravity to feed the house. This pump is capable of pumping from tank 1 to tank 2 about 100' farther up the hill. Your video proved without a doubt that 1) this pump would not work in the well and 2) it will work tank-to-tank. Thanks Brother!
It also confirmed it doesn't need an external control box and is basically a 2-wire pump. I bought it on Amazon and it said it is a 3-wire pump. Asked a question on Amazon - does it need a control box and is it 2 hots and a ground? - No answer. Now I know. 👍👍👍
Man this is crazy! Your vids are awesome. Small farmer in Alabama and I swear my phone listens to what I say. I was looking for a well pump for a 35’ well to a a cattle trough with a float valve today and I get on YT and you are explaining just what I need. I will look it up on Lowe’s website, thanks
This is perfect for tractor water filling station. Since it is open ended application, it does not (eventualy) need check valve so the installed one is probably ok. Guessing it is there just to keep waiting for the water at minimum. Thank You for nice and educational videos. Best Regards
Great video! I was one of the ones that messaged you. Well has static level of 63 and pump is at 85 feet. I had this same one and it did not cut off the 30/50 switch like you said. I ended up swapping it out for a Vevor 1hp 28gpm to see what happens and it works just fine shutting off the 30/50 switch. It gets about 10gpm.
Another quality video. I've been wanting to get one of these less expensive pumps ever since my above ground pump went out. I live in coastal Georgia and our shallow wells are typically around 40' - 60' deep so these pumps are just perfect for running an irrigation system.
I have watched at least 20 of yoru videos and have gotten a real education on wells. Thank you for taking the time to share your excellent knowledge and experience.
Thanks so much for this! I mentioned on your previous pump review, but I recently installed the 1/2 HP (but 110V) Vevor pump in my well. I just put a pressure gauge on mine after watching your previous video and I think I have better results than the 230V one somehow! The pump is at about 58' down but I still have 70 PSI at the top of the well when water flow is turned completely off.
@h2omechanic do you think it's possible that the pump has some sort of current regulator so it tries to increase power as water flow decreases? With my limited knowledge, I expected the current to fall more than it did when the output was limited. I wouldn't expect a cheap pump like this to have that kind of functionality, but it could explain why I still have 70 PSI at the top of my well.
does it still work? did u need a control box for it or no? my well about 37' to water, i dont need much pressure its just gonna be for irrigation, also did u splice wires and how far up did u do it ?
Very informative thanks ! I have two wells, fortunately I’m about 10 miles inland from the Florida coast where our water table is fairly high so my pumps are about 40 ft down, casing is down 100 ft, plus driller punched further down thru the limestone. I’m getting ready to replace my 3 rd pump in 30 years of service
Great explanation! Basically, this pump should only be used when pumping into a cistern/storage tank...just as the drawing shows. Then use a "jet pump" to pressurize a bladder tank. Maybe OK for a DIY but not cost effective when the customer has to pay labor rates
I tested out their 1.5hp 110v pump and it seems to do exactly what it says it will. I pumped up my system to 90 PSI without any issues. I was too scared to try any more. I haven't had any issues minus don't use a PVC fitting directly in the pump. It fell into the areator over the course of 2 months.
Wanted to make a few comments to your videos. 1) I think these videos are very helpful for many viewers since not everyone is an engineer. Kudos for spending the time and posting them. 2) The cheapest Lowe's pump in my area (CA, silicon valley, water is at a premium) at Lowe's was $498 + tax. 3) The description of the pumps gives a usable well depth, so the customer would be able to calculate if the pump was suitable by doing the math like you did in the video. Otherwise, I saw in the comments an 800 phone number and they customer service would be able to calculate and recommend a suitable pump (don't think the average sales clerk at Lowe's would be, my experience). 4) From my own experience with a 30m deep well on my parent's property since around 1960 I can tell that there frequently is a lot of sediment in the well which will grind up the pump and severely shorten it's lifespan. One pump actually locked up and overheated after only a few weeks so the fuse would trip. IIRC the current pump is 20 years old now but only used for watering the garden, otherwise they have city water (safe + sanitary) for the house and drinking.
I got a pump at Lowes as it was a 1.5 HP which Lowes recommend for my well at 165 foot pump drop. Hope it could not pump the water up to the house, so called the MFG of the pump only to be told it would not pump with that much head pressure. Call a well service company as was told the pump was junk for our area. In the Blue Ridge Mountains we have a lot of rock I have over 100 feet of rock and will eat up plastic pump blades, my pump even has a sleeve on it to keep big rocks at bay.
I bought one, it didn't have enough power to overcome the head pressure and bladder tank. My well was less than 50'.I noticed the water tank also.I sent it back
I read, in "before you construct a water well" brochure from the Nova Scotia Government "Pumps that lift water by suction from depths of 7.6 m (25 ft) or less are called shallow well pumps. Pumps that lift water from greater depths are called deep well pumps. " deep just means atmospheric suction limits
I like this demonstration, I have needs on my farm for shallow volume pumping for pumping up to a storage tank(s) from pond, shallow wells etc. Never thought of using a submersible but since they have this type may try it.
Thanks for this.. the review was fair and unbiased.... It's always tempting when reviewing a "cheap" pump to really bash it, but when factoring the value for the money, those wouldn't really be fair criticisms... The pump is what it is, a good value budget pump for those who are cash strapped up front... It may not be as efficient as some of the more expensive high end pumps, and it may be that you have to size up the HP to get the performance you need, which could end up costing you more in the long run, especially when service life is accounted for, but it will at least do what you need it to.... It's one of those cases of pay now or pay later.... but at the price, that pay later is going to take a LONG time to catch up with you..... For those of us stuck in the pay later category, It's a "quality" pump from a company that is honest about the performance, and seems to be paying attention to their customer feedback improved packaging over last years pump, now includes the start up capacitor as opposed to needing a control box, changed to a stainless outlet over the previous brass, etc. Will it last as long as a 1200 dollar Grundfos? almost certainly, no. Will it be as efficient?? absolutely not. But all things considered, this is a good value for the money, and going with it or a $1200 Grundfos really comes down to where your priorities lie.
Hey ive noticed multiple times that in there the pump is conencted to the grid by a breaker only, Here usually we have some control board to check the water level and turn off the pump if the water drops too low. It usually works by the means of some electrodes. Is that a thing in the us? Cheers mate great videos!!!!!!
I think the biggest thing would be to have the likes an inverse psi chart on the website and box, which would help clarify that as the head increases, the available psi at that said height is reduced
This is very good information I have watched many of your videos and learned so much please keep going there are many of us that need and can use this information if only to be able to work on our own wells as i do.
I've gotten the 2hp vevor pump getting ready to install it would like to see U test out the 1 , 1 1/2, 2 Hp pumps , You can always sell them off as pre tested out afterword's to get your $$$ back and still do a video on them..
Your our go to for well pump information. So this pump will work well for a 100 foot well with water down 70' pumped into an open tank? Thanks for the great information ✌️
Awesome educational video. I need this pump I’m from Puerto Rico for my cistern system in apartment. Can this work good with pressure tank and water heater systems?
Great content! Love learning about this stuff. Do you have a good video on putting down the well casing and doing the gravel work at the bottom of it with the well screen and all?
Just found your channel and am really enjoying the content. If I had a cistern that also collects rainwater so that the deep well pump didn't run as much as a regular well? Is there any drawbacks for a deep well pump not running within normal parameters?
This explanation about pump head and how it affect pressure was spot on. Exactly what i was thinking before you got to the effect on pressure in your explanation I have a well that is 82’ with 72 ft of casing. It picks up a lot of sediment. Any ideas about how to fix that problem
How about a pressurised settling tank in the line from the pump to your filters/bladder? Periodically clean out the bottom of it. This does assume the sediment is course enough to settle out over a reasonably short period.
As you close the valve to raise pressure, you are effectively pumping through a small orifice which would be like using a very small diameter pipe. How does this affect flow rates at higher pressures?
@JS-fe8sx as the water level in the well drops, the head pressure directly above the pump increases. That makes the flow rate decrease. It eventually reaches a point where the pump can't provide enough pressure to cut off the pressure switch. That's how this test can show you is maximum Pumping Depth (& still turn off the switch)
… this is probably a septic tank pump… they use turbine pumps in effluent sewers where only the gray water is pumped and not the solids… like you said it is probably a low head pumps… pumps can pump volume or pressure but usually not both
*All* Chinese sellers (VEVOR is just an importer and seller, one big enough to get all products labeled with their brand but they don't make anything) call all kinds of submersible pumps "submersible deep well pump" and/or "submersible borehole pump" It's likely a translation problem, since most sellers (including VEVOR) won't know anything about installing deep well pumps, unless by chance they hire someone who has worked as a plumber as a translator ;-) If you contact customer support they may take a look to the user manual (because they know a lot of buyers never read them) or maybe google for some more information but never expect them to know how every product they sell actually works because they're selling literally thousands of unrelated products and nobody can have so much knowledge.
Just a note: while you use that meter to measure amps, it’s actually pronounced “AM-METER”, and spelled ammeter. Not an amp meter. Keep up the great content!
Great content, love it! I'm wondering if you could help. I have a 1000ft well with a static water level of 200 ft. It produces 3/4 gpm. I live in the mountains of western North Carolina and would like to use as much water storage as reasonably possible with my 1000 ft well. Could you recommend a depth and pump size for my 3 bedroom mountain home? Once
Great review. Unrelated question: I discovered I have a pitless adapter. How long do the O-rings last before needing replaced? Is there a standard size O-ring for these? My well was installed in 2016.
A few different manufacturers all use different sizes. Any auto parts store will have one if you ever replaced yours. I think 20 years is the life of a oring
yeah at 18 awg I would cut back to a shorter length and splice not sure why they had such a long lead wire ? did not realize Vevor was sold through Lowes, but Vevor usually sales stuff rebranded so wonder who actually manuf's that, most their stuff is China. Have bought many different things from Vevor Ice machines to pop corn machines to tools ?
Question, does this kind of submersible pump can be use in a bore well, but my well casing have a foot valve because our bore well is used as traditional hand pump well. I hope you get my point.
Hey you do an Awesome job doing videos on all things. I am from Canada and I have a sand point and a 3/4 horse pump. It has a 30/50 switch. I checked the air pressure in the tank and it was 52 so I put it down to 28. That's what the plumber put in 10 years ago.Was I right putting it down to 28.
The less flow the lower your amp draw will be. If you close the valve completely it’ll drop even more. The pump isn’t doing any work. That’s why you start big centrifugal pumps with the discharge valve closed, to reduce the startup amps
Sounds like that pump is designed for a specific application and people are putting in an applications that it was not designed for and there's nothing wrong with that pump. It's just that you need to find a pump that's specific to your situation. Sounds like this pump is a good for storage based systems for you. Do the pressurization after the storage of the water and seems like it works fine for that. But if you're going directly to a pressurized system, it looks like this pump is not good for that for deep well that is
that flow meter probably requires a straight run on the inlet and outlet and never put a flow meter on the high point in the piping , preferably mount the flow meter vertically
Our local Community Hall has a drilled well with a static level of just twelve feet. This pump would definitely get the job done, and satisfy the pressure switch. However, that's something of a special case; my well at home has a static level of 110 feet, and it takes quite a bit of horsepower just to get the water to the surface. I still need an additional 60 psi to satisfy the pressure switch. Half a horsepower just can't do it.
I have water storage tanks. Wondering, will bypassing the bladder tank and wiring in a float switched on the submersible well pump increase the pumps longevity?
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man this is so informative, youre the only one doing vids like this keep it up man love it
Thank you for doing what you do my man. I’m a driver for a well pump and water treatment supply warehouse. Over the last couple weeks I’ve been inspired to find out exactly what the stuff I’m delivering does and how it all comes together to make a well system, and you’re consistently putting out videos about everything I need to know. You’re inspiring me to go back to school and get my plumbing license. Thank you again
I was worried if this pump would work in one of my wells. Your video demonstrated the it should work fine at 40’ depth. I bought it, I dropped it down about 3 days ago and it works great. Your video saved me a lot money and had my well been deeper I would have passed on this pump. I have watched every one of H20 Mechanics videos, most of them more than once which means now I know just enough to be dangerous!
Is it still working?
u got the 1/2 hp too? so it dont need a control box or does it?
The factory installed extension cord is a dead giveaway. 😂
That pump would work great in my rain catchment system
I have a 2.5" 1/2 HP pump that has the same or very similar check valve, I haven't even tried it, just bought a good brass check valve and put it on. If I remember correctly even my Grundfos pump recommended using one External check valve for added safety.
Mine produces practically the same pressure as that, but being 2.5" the flow is somewhat lower.
I bought the 2.5" one because at that time I already had a 1 HP and 3" Grundfos and a 2 HP and 4" one from some Italian manufacturer that I can't remember right now installed in the well, I didn't want them touching the pipe (it's 8 inches internal diameter) or each other, so I chose the slimmer model available.
In the end the 2HP produced much more flow than it needed and logically it also consumed more electricity, so I ended up removing it, originally it was supplying my grandpa's dairy farm but they retired in the early 90s. Now I have enough with the 1HP Grundfos to do some irrigation and the half HP to fill the cistern that supplies my home.
I purchased the 0.5 HP pump because I installed a Cintropur NW500 filter housing with 10 micron filter element and with a lower flow rate it almost does not produce any pressure drop that would become an extra electricity expense.
With the Grundfos it had 1.9 BAR of pressure drop with a brand new 10 micron filter element and almost 4 BAR when it got dirty... with the 0.5 HP even with a dirty filter element the pressure drop never reach 1 BAR.
The filter housing came from factory with 50 or 60 micron filter elements and with those the 1HP Grundfos was fine, but I don't want any sand on the cistern because the output is about 2 cm over the bottom and it would be difficult to clean.
As soon as the filter element gets superficially dirty the rest of the sand falls to the bottom of the bowl so I really only change the filter element every couple of months for hygiene reasons but it seems like it would take a year or more for it to clog...
By the way the well is only 25 meters deep, the pumps are 20 meters from ground level and I have never seen the water level go lower than about 8 meters from ground level. Yesterday it was at 1.9 meters from ground level.
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It may not be false advertisement, but it is deceptive... Great videos..!
@H2o Mechanic, I enjoy these test sessions and the explanations, looking forward to the next one!
Just sent a 3 HP Vevor down the well after one heck of a fight getting the old, dead pump up and replaced. Your videos helped for sure. The pump has been great so far
Hello friend hows the pump performing?, im thinking in getting one of these for myself
@foox2k Died within a month, most likely due to not being protected from the shock of starting and too much power for the flow rate. Do more homework than i did, and you may be okay. Paid a well service later (big $$) to replace with a high end pump. My well is 440 feet deep, so ymmv
@@tyyelvington2923 sorry to ear that brother, i'm gonna keep researching
@@tyyelvington2923 hi, do you think a 2 hp vevor works for my 55 foot deep well?
Think i need a pressure tank?
The water is for a home.
Sorry for mi English, im still learning.
DO IT LOCAL!….. also make it a video when you do it. A lot of people out there need help and it is nice to see someone willing to help. I’ve watched other channels on TH-cam start charities to pay for services to those in need, if you ever do that I got the 1st $100 to ya.
There are a lot of us out here that are very happy to pitch in and help this along.
This video should drive home the point to read the capabilities of whatever you are looking for to make sure it will do what you need. If those people that had problems had read the instructions or before buying the pump looked up the specifications they would have known that this is not the kind of pump they needed. I have multiple wells depths from 1000 feet on my ranch to 250 feet on others. I hired a well specialist like you to determine what was needed from the well drilling, casing pump, piping and all the other components to make it work as needed. Moral to the story is get an expert to do things like this that you don't know enough about. Maybe in China their wells are 50 feet deep and they consider that deep. Who knows? Very good information!
Thanks for spreading your knowledge. This is invaluable for homeowners
Vevor just came out of no where... Never heard of them a year ago, now they make everything from well pumps to power tools to fog machines, to jigs, to welding equipemnt, to everything.... Just seems to be a jack of all trades company, jack out a ton of items from chinese factories that produce other products and slap their name on it.
Like my last 3 online orders have been vevor....not because I like them...but more because they seem to make everything. I even noticed the logo at my dentists office.
Where I live in Calif. We have to have water for the fire department so my well pump Is at 225' and fills my 5000 gal. Tank we have a separate pressure pump to supply our bladder tank
These pumps are great.I have one at my cottage.Down a 65ft well.put down in the well 30ft Lots of pressure pressure switch set at 40/60 Is hooked to a pressure tank as well. Builds pressure within seconds Great pump 200$ very impressed
which one did u get? this one the 1/2 hp one or another one? also does it need a control box or no?
So glad I found this video. I bought this pump to pump from a well to a storage tank about 100' above the well. Pump would be set 90' down the well. I doubted its capabilities to do what I need and decided to use it to pump from that storage tank up the hill to another tank where I will have enough elevation to use gravity to feed the house. This pump is capable of pumping from tank 1 to tank 2 about 100' farther up the hill. Your video proved without a doubt that 1) this pump would not work in the well and 2) it will work tank-to-tank. Thanks Brother!
It also confirmed it doesn't need an external control box and is basically a 2-wire pump. I bought it on Amazon and it said it is a 3-wire pump. Asked a question on Amazon - does it need a control box and is it 2 hots and a ground? - No answer. Now I know. 👍👍👍
nice review. it is glad that there was no false advertising. just a very limited use case.
Man this is crazy! Your vids are awesome. Small farmer in Alabama and I swear my phone listens to what I say. I was looking for a well pump for a 35’ well to a a cattle trough with a float valve today and I get on YT and you are explaining just what I need. I will look it up on Lowe’s website, thanks
This is perfect for tractor water filling station. Since it is open ended application, it does not (eventualy) need check valve so the installed one is probably ok. Guessing it is there just to keep waiting for the water at minimum. Thank You for nice and educational videos. Best Regards
In normal system if your check valve is bad it will bleed back when the pump shuts off then drops pressure and cause pump to run more
I learned more from this video in 20 min. then i've learned from all the hours on other channels . Great farm pump for cattle tanks and such . Thanks
Great video! I was one of the ones that messaged you. Well has static level of 63 and pump is at 85 feet. I had this same one and it did not cut off the 30/50 switch like you said. I ended up swapping it out for a Vevor 1hp 28gpm to see what happens and it works just fine shutting off the 30/50 switch. It gets about 10gpm.
how long did the pump last?
Another quality video. I've been wanting to get one of these less expensive pumps ever since my above ground pump went out. I live in coastal Georgia and our shallow wells are typically around 40' - 60' deep so these pumps are just perfect for running an irrigation system.
very good demo, i do know someone needing a pump, been carry water in drums for animals in a pickup 3 times a week. uug.
I have watched at least 20 of yoru videos and have gotten a real education on wells. Thank you for taking the time to share your excellent knowledge and experience.
This is great knowledge for the general population! Read and educate yourself before you buy! Respect
Thanks so much for this! I mentioned on your previous pump review, but I recently installed the 1/2 HP (but 110V) Vevor pump in my well. I just put a pressure gauge on mine after watching your previous video and I think I have better results than the 230V one somehow! The pump is at about 58' down but I still have 70 PSI at the top of the well when water flow is turned completely off.
@h2omechanic do you think it's possible that the pump has some sort of current regulator so it tries to increase power as water flow decreases? With my limited knowledge, I expected the current to fall more than it did when the output was limited. I wouldn't expect a cheap pump like this to have that kind of functionality, but it could explain why I still have 70 PSI at the top of my well.
does it still work? did u need a control box for it or no? my well about 37' to water, i dont need much pressure its just gonna be for irrigation, also did u splice wires and how far up did u do it ?
Great explanation. I love the rest rig. You could start doing head to head real life pump tests like project farm.
I love me some Project farm videos! I plan on test Alot of different pumps!
@@h2omechanic so this pump needs a control box or u just had one set up?
Very informative thanks ! I have two wells, fortunately I’m about 10 miles inland from the Florida coast where our water table is fairly high so my pumps are about 40 ft down, casing is down 100 ft, plus driller punched further down thru the limestone. I’m getting ready to replace my 3 rd pump in 30 years of service
Great video, yep, if you're at 50 foot well depth, you need 25psi to get to the top of the casing, so 40psi gets you 65. just don't go much deeper!
Yea exactly
Great explanation! Basically, this pump should only be used when pumping into a cistern/storage tank...just as the drawing shows. Then use a "jet pump" to pressurize a bladder tank. Maybe OK for a DIY but not cost effective when the customer has to pay labor rates
More videos like this! This is awesome. Do some videos where you test out the different pumps etc
I tested out their 1.5hp 110v pump and it seems to do exactly what it says it will. I pumped up my system to 90 PSI without any issues. I was too scared to try any more. I haven't had any issues minus don't use a PVC fitting directly in the pump. It fell into the areator over the course of 2 months.
You could explain cavitation like spinning tires in a car.
Presumably would work well in an aeration tank in the south. Love the videos sir.
Yes, I believe it's fine for a cistern or as a transfer pump. Or irrigation out of a pond.
Wanted to make a few comments to your videos.
1) I think these videos are very helpful for many viewers since not everyone is an engineer. Kudos for spending the time and posting them.
2) The cheapest Lowe's pump in my area (CA, silicon valley, water is at a premium) at Lowe's was $498 + tax.
3) The description of the pumps gives a usable well depth, so the customer would be able to calculate if the pump was suitable by doing the math like you did in the video. Otherwise, I saw in the comments an 800 phone number and they customer service would be able to calculate and recommend a suitable pump (don't think the average sales clerk at Lowe's would be, my experience).
4) From my own experience with a 30m deep well on my parent's property since around 1960 I can tell that there frequently is a lot of sediment in the well which will grind up the pump and severely shorten it's lifespan. One pump actually locked up and overheated after only a few weeks so the fuse would trip. IIRC the current pump is 20 years old now but only used for watering the garden, otherwise they have city water (safe + sanitary) for the house and drinking.
I need this pump sir! 😎 Been living here for two years with a broken jet pump system!
ah, this explains why amazon has soo many cheap well pumps at 1, 2, 3 hp! some are called solar pumps..
Great channel and video!
I got a pump at Lowes as it was a 1.5 HP which Lowes recommend for my well at 165 foot pump drop. Hope it could not pump the water up to the house, so called the MFG of the pump only to be told it would not pump with that much head pressure. Call a well service company as was told the pump was junk for our area. In the Blue Ridge Mountains we have a lot of rock I have over 100 feet of rock and will eat up plastic pump blades, my pump even has a sleeve on it to keep big rocks at bay.
Could you point me to a video that shows hooking up a pressure tank to a submersible and then to the supply line.
PS, I really enjoy your videos.
I bought one, it didn't have enough power to overcome the head pressure and bladder tank. My well was less than 50'.I noticed the water tank also.I sent it back
U noticed what water tank?
thanks for the overview , very useful for all of us ....,
I read, in "before you construct a water well" brochure from the Nova Scotia Government "Pumps that lift water by suction from depths of 7.6 m (25 ft) or less are called shallow well pumps. Pumps that lift water from greater depths are called deep well pumps. " deep just means atmospheric suction limits
Some pumps lower amperage when restricted due to the fact they are doing less work moving water when restricted.
Great demonstration and explanation. Appreciate the testing.
im late but i need that pump.. im 48 ft deep and 12 ft water above that .. sooo . 30- 50 switch im be able use this !
U using for a well to tank?
I like this demonstration, I have needs on my farm for shallow volume pumping for pumping up to a storage tank(s) from pond, shallow wells etc. Never thought of using a submersible but since they have this type may try it.
and hey at that price yeah going to try it
Thanks for this.. the review was fair and unbiased....
It's always tempting when reviewing a "cheap" pump to really bash it, but when factoring the value for the money, those wouldn't really be fair criticisms...
The pump is what it is, a good value budget pump for those who are cash strapped up front...
It may not be as efficient as some of the more expensive high end pumps, and it may be that you have to size up the HP to get the performance you need, which could end up costing you more in the long run, especially when service life is accounted for, but it will at least do what you need it to....
It's one of those cases of pay now or pay later....
but at the price, that pay later is going to take a LONG time to catch up with you.....
For those of us stuck in the pay later category, It's a "quality" pump from a company that is honest about the performance, and seems to be paying attention to their customer feedback improved packaging over last years pump, now includes the start up capacitor as opposed to needing a control box, changed to a stainless outlet over the previous brass, etc.
Will it last as long as a 1200 dollar Grundfos? almost certainly, no.
Will it be as efficient?? absolutely not.
But all things considered, this is a good value for the money, and going with it or a $1200 Grundfos really comes down to where your priorities lie.
Hey ive noticed multiple times that in there the pump is conencted to the grid by a breaker only, Here usually we have some control board to check the water level and turn off the pump if the water drops too low. It usually works by the means of some electrodes. Is that a thing in the us?
Cheers mate great videos!!!!!!
I think he mentioned in one of the videos that these things are built into the pump these days (maybe not all pumps?).
A good illustration of Bernoulli principle pressure is resistance to flow
I think the biggest thing would be to have the likes an inverse psi chart on the website and box, which would help clarify that as the head increases, the available psi at that said height is reduced
This is very good information I have watched many of your videos and learned so much please keep going there are many of us that need and can use this information if only to be able to work on our own wells as i do.
Ponds and fountains. That's what it's designed for.
Perfectly fine for the intended purpose of filling a cistern from a well up to 150 ft deep . Cheap
I've gotten the 2hp vevor pump getting ready to install it would like to see U test out the 1 , 1 1/2, 2 Hp pumps , You can always sell them off as pre tested out afterword's to get your $$$ back and still do a video on them..
Your our go to for well pump information. So this pump will work well for a 100 foot well with water down 70' pumped into an open tank? Thanks for the great information ✌️
So it sounds like this might be a great pump to use for my pond irrigation pumps since it'll pump 25 gal
This is a really great testing procedure.
what Vevor pump would you recommend for a 350 or 400 ft well ? you are a life saver with your video content. Thank you
I hope the pump goes to a good home! Thanks!
I have the perfect application for a pump like that to irrigate from a lake 😊
Awesome educational video. I need this pump I’m from Puerto Rico for my cistern system in apartment. Can this work good with pressure tank and water heater systems?
Can you do this with their 2 hp well pump?
Great content! Love learning about this stuff. Do you have a good video on putting down the well casing and doing the gravel work at the bottom of it with the well screen and all?
Just found your channel and am really enjoying the content. If I had a cistern that also collects rainwater so that the deep well pump didn't run as much as a regular well? Is there any drawbacks for a deep well pump not running within normal parameters?
Have you tested their 2hp pump?
This explanation about pump head and how it affect pressure was spot on. Exactly what i was thinking before you got to the effect on pressure in your explanation
I have a well that is 82’ with 72 ft of casing. It picks up a lot of sediment. Any ideas about how to fix that problem
How about a pressurised settling tank in the line from the pump to your filters/bladder? Periodically clean out the bottom of it. This does assume the sediment is course enough to settle out over a reasonably short period.
As you close the valve to raise pressure, you are effectively pumping through a small orifice which would be like using a very small diameter pipe. How does this affect flow rates at higher pressures?
@JS-fe8sx as the water level in the well drops, the head pressure directly above the pump increases. That makes the flow rate decrease. It eventually reaches a point where the pump can't provide enough pressure to cut off the pressure switch. That's how this test can show you is maximum Pumping Depth (& still turn off the switch)
@@h2omechanic I don't believe a restriction is a fair test except for max pressure
@@h2omechanic I don't believe a restriction is a fair test except for max pressure
… this is probably a septic tank pump… they use turbine pumps in effluent sewers where only the gray water is pumped and not the solids… like you said it is probably a low head pumps… pumps can pump volume or pressure but usually not both
Very educational, thank you! Always love your video!
*All* Chinese sellers (VEVOR is just an importer and seller, one big enough to get all products labeled with their brand but they don't make anything) call all kinds of submersible pumps "submersible deep well pump" and/or "submersible borehole pump"
It's likely a translation problem, since most sellers (including VEVOR) won't know anything about installing deep well pumps, unless by chance they hire someone who has worked as a plumber as a translator ;-)
If you contact customer support they may take a look to the user manual (because they know a lot of buyers never read them) or maybe google for some more information but never expect them to know how every product they sell actually works because they're selling literally thousands of unrelated products and nobody can have so much knowledge.
I hope that brand last longer than the one I brought for my RV that had the same name. I had it for 3 days be it locked up .
Just a note: while you use that meter to measure amps, it’s actually pronounced “AM-METER”, and spelled ammeter. Not an amp meter. Keep up the great content!
Really?😂😂
Great content, love it! I'm wondering if you could help. I have a 1000ft well with a static water level of 200 ft. It produces 3/4 gpm. I live in the mountains of western North Carolina and would like to use as much water storage as reasonably possible with my 1000 ft well. Could you recommend a depth and pump size for my 3 bedroom mountain home? Once
Another great info video. Thanks!
VERY EDUCATIONAL!
Excellent explanation Thanks
if you for imstance begin with 1 1/4 inch you put a 1 inch after 20.feet your pump brings more water its like you pump water to a 4 storys building
Great job enjoying all ur videos
Being advertised like an air compressor. Lists the max it can do but not at the same time.
Do they publish a pump curve? At what point does the pump begin to cavitate?
Most pressure switches are adjustable.
Wow, well made test.
Great review. Unrelated question: I discovered I have a pitless adapter. How long do the O-rings last before needing replaced? Is there a standard size O-ring for these? My well was installed in 2016.
A few different manufacturers all use different sizes. Any auto parts store will have one if you ever replaced yours. I think 20 years is the life of a oring
yeah at 18 awg I would cut back to a shorter length and splice not sure why they had such a long lead wire ? did not realize Vevor was sold through Lowes, but Vevor usually sales stuff rebranded so wonder who actually manuf's that, most their stuff is China. Have bought many different things from Vevor Ice machines to pop corn machines to tools ?
Question, does this kind of submersible pump can be use in a bore well, but my well casing have a foot valve because our bore well is used as traditional hand pump well.
I hope you get my point.
Great video...... great info all around.
Most of the wells used for lawn irrigations systems in this area are about 30' depth. Is this pump suitable for these shallow wells?
Your Smart!
Hey you do an Awesome job doing videos on all things. I am from Canada and I have a sand point and a 3/4 horse pump. It has a 30/50 switch. I checked the air pressure in the tank and it was 52 so I put it down to 28. That's what the plumber put in 10 years ago.Was I right putting it down to 28.
I think it should be set a few pounds below the upper limit or around 48, otherwise it won't turn on.
The less flow the lower your amp draw will be. If you close the valve completely it’ll drop even more. The pump isn’t doing any work. That’s why you start big centrifugal pumps with the discharge valve closed, to reduce the startup amps
Sounds like that pump is designed for a specific application and people are putting in an applications that it was not designed for and there's nothing wrong with that pump. It's just that you need to find a pump that's specific to your situation. Sounds like this pump is a good for storage based systems for you. Do the pressurization after the storage of the water and seems like it works fine for that. But if you're going directly to a pressurized system, it looks like this pump is not good for that for deep well that is
Question what is your opinion on hallmark deep well pumps?
I tested 2 Hallmark pumps I a older Vid on my channel. Both were similar to this one. The 3" Hallmark pump did better than the 4" model
that flow meter probably requires a straight run on the inlet and outlet and never put a flow meter on the high point in the piping , preferably mount the flow meter vertically
Didnt you forget the liftheight?
Could really use it
Our local Community Hall has a drilled well with a static level of just twelve feet. This pump would definitely get the job done, and satisfy the pressure switch. However, that's something of a special case; my well at home has a static level of 110 feet, and it takes quite a bit of horsepower just to get the water to the surface. I still need an additional 60 psi to satisfy the pressure switch. Half a horsepower just can't do it.
Then consider to fill a reservoire and use another pump or better an autoclave to meet pressure requirement
I have water storage tanks. Wondering, will bypassing the bladder tank and wiring in a float switched on the submersible well pump increase the pumps longevity?
Helpful information.