Bet You've NEVER Seen This Put In A WELL 👀
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ย. 2024
- This week we installed our deep well submersible pump using an innovative product called Boreline. We want to thank Hose Solutions for partnering with us on this project.
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Happy for your family to have WATER!! Showers, cooking, washing clothes, gardening, trees etc..... Swimming pool !!!!
Good grief, you are a walking encyclopedia of information. As much as you have researched and proven to be effective, you should write a book. I am impressed, and it takes a lot to impress me at my age, I am serious. You are the most efficient off-grid channel I watch, and I watch several. Your channel, to me, is like the icing on the cake. I can't wait until Sunday after church to watch what you all have done next.
That Boreline tip is incredibly valuable for those of us planning to drill a well. Thank you. Hope you both are rocking on your porch with the great-great-grandkids well after the warranty expires.
The quality of your videos and storytelling have steadily improved (not saying they were bad before). Kudos to Natalie. Good work.
Congrats on getting the well fully operational. It will be interesting to see how eventual irrigation requirements impact your usage and pump cycle rates. Thanks for sharing your journey with all of us.
Very nice! Great to know that the Pipe you chose has such a great rating. If you have to pull the pump, it will be so much easier than having to deal with rigid pipe. I had a well in 3 Points AZ, 996 ft deep, and had a 240vac pump in it, galvanized pipe with check valve at bottom and 2 others spaced out along the 940 ft length. It worked fine for about 10 years and then, because of the fine sentiment in the water, all the check valves failed. The fine sentiment got lodged into the hinge/seal and prevented the valve from fully closing and so after each time the pump went on, the 940 ft length (plus the 300 ft from the well to the house) would drain. So each time the pump would turn on, it would take about 15 minutes for the water to start comming out. My well guy and I pulled the pump and pipes out and discovered the problem and he said that there was really nothing he could do except replace the check valves and wait till they failed again. So we replaced them. Everything worked fine. My tank was 3000 gal and the float switch was set to turn on at about 1/2 empty. The well guy said to reset the float so that it would turn on at about 3/4 or 7/8 empty. That way the pump would spend more time turned on and not start up as often because it is the start up that puts so much strain on the motor etc.. I don't know how it is doing now since I sold the place.
Excellent info, yeah I can't imagine the actual start up amps pushing that much column pressure up 1000 feet.
So amazing!!! Watched my brothers and dad pull our ranch well tons of times.. Such an ordeal.. This set up would have been magical. Love your channel!!!
Thanks, never heard of that, I like that and 50 year’s warranty is a huge bonus!
We have water 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉. Congratulations. One step closer💪🏽. Blessings to your family🙏🏾
Hi all....what an accomplishment for your selves and maybe animals and garden! Such a great video. Your own water is epic!! Thanks for allowing all of us to experience this with you. Love from Central Oklahoma
Congratulations on getting the well and tank installed. The Coconino aquifer has such good water.
What an up water episode. This design and selection of the products was very interesting. I think you need a bigger shed in future for the purification system next?
The filtration system was installed almost 2 years ago. We're good to go. Thanks 🙂
Excellent job! So nice to have water!
Congratulations on another huge accomplishment achieved! Very proud of you all! Cheers from Chattanooga, TN.
And another congratulations from Chattanooga TN.
Being as deep as the well is I might have put in a bigger pump. That's a lot of head pressure needed to pump up the water. Good choice on the hose been seeing a lot of good things about it. I live in Az. wish I had a well. I would get a good filter and water softener as water here is hard and alkaline. I put in a Aquasure bundle with softener and filter. Good luck with framing and stay safe.
We do have a filter system in place. The water goes through 3 filters and a uv light. We put that in a ways back. The only thing we need is water softener. Because, like you said, Arizona has hard water. Thanks 🙂
So happy for you and your family may God continue to bless you
how awesome is that from one of your subscribers for the pump line...interesting that they are out of Scottsdale, pretty amazing, thanks for the step by step...what a process..water, wahoo!!! So happy for you guys, thanks for sharing
Nice system! Well thought out and researched. Hope you have many years of problem free water supply. Take care and stay safe!
Grundfos are the number one deep-well pumps. They have long lifespan too
It's going to get harder to do things when winter comes, but the main things are done, i can remember when u guys were having a cold shower outside, electric sorted, water sorted, fresh eggs 😊 ❤❤
Yes! It's so awesome! 😃
I hope everything is good with your well❤❤👁👁👁👁👁👁🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶
Isn't it nice that your subscribers are willing to offer useful information and suggestions? lol! I'm fascinated by the strength of that tubing, and also the fact that the pump can move water nearly 800 vertical feet. That thing has got to have a seriously beefy impeller drive, and to pull less than 10amps under that operational load is remarkable.
Especially at 120v
Congratulations on getting your water
Great video, life will get a little bit easier.
Hi Guys... Well done all round on using quality equipment.... I installed my first Grundfos in 1984 and its still running and never been out the ground.... I dont recall the total of pumps I have installed over the years but Grundfos has never ever let me down.... There are many other good pumps out there as well here in South Africa, but now that I have retired I can put my foot in it!!!!! I love the way you do your research and the products you use.... I have only used Boreline once on a 22kW pump at 120m with 6" rising main... Its just to bloody expensive here in SA..... Lastly I am Jealous of your Victron solar set up.... I have done a few for clients but never one for myself....
Cheers and well done
Clive
Enjoyed the video. Thanks for sharing
Best investment we ever made. I wouldn't go down well with any other product.
Nice 🙂
Never a boring video (besides drilling for a well - LOL) from these guys and gals. I think I learn something every week.
You might consider adding a 1/8” weep hole to the base of the vertical that feeds the tank under the frost line instead of a manual drain valve. Backfill with gravel and ground cloth to keep it free of dirt. You will loose a small amount of water when pumping, but it would allow the vertical riser to drain free of water, when freezing temps are present, to prevent the water pipe from freezing and cracking when the pump is off.
But how much freezing temps do they get
I subscribed to learn more and because of the work you must have done to produce the quality video. Glad there was no extraneous music. For some of us whose ears don’t work as well as they did at age ten, sorting out music from speech and ‘ah-hah’ moments adds stress to the older ‘CPU’ inside! Thank you ever so much for all the information.
You beat winter with getting the well completed! Great job 🎉
How exciting!! Your well is in!! This whole project is amazing!!
Fascinating
All right how cool !!!! After 2yrs we have been watching from the beginning! So happy for you ❤😅
Good job on the well and at least on wont have to haul water or have it delivered
cool hose for sure
Another exciting accomplishment!! I always look forward to Sunday to see what’s next.❤
So happy for you all.
congratz! you have a water! ☺
Last thing is the pump house you got right there next to it. The laundry room and pump house you could actually put solar on top of that to run the pump.
❤great progress step. Thanks for sharing🙏🙂
Use the well pump to fill your water tank and another high pressure pump to pump your water from the tank to your house!
That is basically our setup right now. We have an on demand pump in that same shed the pumps the storage tank water to our trailer. Thanks 🙂
Helluva job
Awesome milestone to reach
Congrats on the water 💧 system
It looks a lot like a fire hose but smaller around that will be so much easier if you ever had to pull the pump out it doesn't have to be pulled straight up in the air if you wanted you could pull it out by hand 👍
If you can have it run on straight solar DC, it would be great to get rid of a conversion loss. But great job.
Congrats on your water ❤
Boy I'm glad you did that... show us the dog with the squeaky toy - I was wondering what sort of alarm the water/electric line had to tell you to tie them together... that might have gotten a bit annoying after the first 500 feet or so... lol. RR Buildings just built his own new dream shop and he used something similar to bore horizontally in order to put in conduit/water/etc. It's a pretty cool product - and galvanized is not flexible AT ALL... like this stuff is. Thanks for sharing this with us.
You have answered my question. Were you going to have a flow switch to regulate the water? Looking good, I enjoy your family videos every week. Keep up the good work.
I am born, raised in Phoenix and untl a year ago lived there most of my life. I am 65 so have a bit of time stomping all over the state. From the pinion trees I am guessing you are at 6 to maybe 7 thousand feet. While I dont know where you are, I am curious, whats your frost line there? I spent 4 years in Colorado at exactly 7 thousand feet and it got really cold there. We buried to 8 feet minimum. Exposed pipe got heat tape, foil, and then foam. It worked amazingly well down to -20 and very windy. My surviving family is still there. Sister on the rim in lakeside and Dad north of Mayer up towards Breezy Pines from Poland Junction. Dads place we built in the 60s and he has added on big time. Thank you and be safe.
We're near the white mountains. Frost line is 18 inches, but we like to put our pipes around 30 inches. Thanks 🙂
Thanks for sharing
I just installed the same pump at 500' a month ago and couldn't be happier with it. On 240 ac for now and only pulls 1kw where the old 240v Grundfos pulled 2.4kw. Old one was on steel and it went back in the same so it was quite a different experience.
How exciting 😊
Well done. I mean great job.
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Its getting better on every video xx
You got a sawmill builder, dude, like everybody else. Does they build a wooden shed? Around their tank wiping system, and they're all that, and then what they do is insulate it. Then there you go. You got a good clean, warm set up from water.
Jacob: I have that same pump and I have 4: 200 watt panels that run it, so I'm guessing it takes about 500-600 watts to run that pump.
Excellent guys, so happy for you
Good morning how are you guys doing today looks like everything is coming together looks like the the will is coming together you guys have a good day and God bless you guys
He said 100 years guaranteed for 50 year awesome. Are you going to put a water level in your water barrel if water level goes down the pump will turn on.
Yes, we'll put in some sort of float switch. Thanks 🙂
🎉🎉👏👏👍👍Yayyyy!!!
"deepness", aka depth. question: i am sure there is restraint but my query is what keeps the pump from rotating when starting (since it is on flexible hose)?i see, since you are letting it pump into the top of the tank, open butt, there is hardly any pressure (other than the head to overcome the depth of the well), therefore there will be very little starting torgue. if i had just been patient and watched! alas!........g
Great question. It is a soft start pump, so it won't ever twist the boreline. Thanks 🙂
danish quality pump
Did you pick a swimming pool spot😊
I grew up drinking out of hoses but was later told it was bad for me. Now I’m confused! 😂
You drank from the wrong hose 😆
Incredible to watch this pump install with Boreline hose.......a few questions if I may, 1. what level is your pump at exactly? (how far below 774 feet is the pump). And 2. only one check valve for that complete column of water? When that pump first kicks on with 750+ feet of column pressure it must draw a heck of a load to get it to move that much water. ALSO.....if you were to have to pull your pump for any reason, have you calculated how much weight that the lifting mechanism would be required to pull including all the water in the Boreline hose?
The pump is sitting at 840 feet. All they recommend is one check valve, and from I understand is there aren't any others because there is no water hammer. The hose itself absorbs any water hammer due to its flexibility. The one check valve is just to protect the pumps internal check valve. As far as the weight goes, we're looking at about 800 pounds. Thanks 🙂
@@aboulderlifeoffgrid Was it 800 pounds "dry" when you made the installation? My quick math tells me that your installer guy said 14 minutes to fill the hose to surface, so would it be 14x2 gallons per minute = 28 gallons to fill the hose to surface. Then take 28 gallons which is in the hose and multiply by 8.34 pounds per gallon, which would mean there is only 233 pounds of column water from the pump to surface.....it seems like I lowballed the water weight.
@pauleastend4706 OK, so I just looked up the weights of all the items. And it looks like the weight is more like 700 pounds wet. And that's with rounding up. Thanks 🙂
You probably won’t see much of a change in flow rate with 240V AC over the current 120V. If you do, it will be related to the lower voltage drop of 240V. The SQF series pumps are awesome, I’ve been running one with 720W of solar for five years. The issue is the pump model and the head. You need a bigger pump to get more flow. Curious why you didn’t show the Grundfos CU200 display with the wattage the pump was drawing? Buy a spare controller. They fail more than the pumps do.
I wonder what the h20mechanic would say, he uses some flexible pipe for wells like that. I was kinda thinking if you did that trick with the bolts and washers 500 times, you'd lose at least one set down a well... I wonder if a quick release lever would work better?
Like I said on that metal building there on your green roof right next to your water tank. There's enough room on there. To put solar panels and since the Sun hits both sides all day long, why not? Why not put solar panels up there that way? That'll run your pump and only your pump
The only thing I would worry about with this hose is the pump spinning and twisting the hose around when the pump kicks on
It's a slow start pump, so there is no twisting. Thanks 🙂
Probably the wrong wire crimpers for the insulated terminals. There's special ones needed for them that don't pierce the heat shrink. They have more of a flat crimp surface.
The crimps that we used were not insulated. They were metallic. Then we slid the heat shrink over the crimps and heated them up over the splice. Thanks 🙂
@@aboulderlifeoffgrid Ah maybe it was the angles and lighting but looked like some were crimped through heatshrink. But I didn't realize there was a specific crimper for them either
I didn't hear the size of storage batteries you had there. I have 5.4kWh of solar and 20kWh of battery backup.
Great job. What size is that well bore, 12"? The large tank and smaller well pump is the way to go. Cheaper initially and cheaper to replace when that day comes. Do you have an inline pump from the tank to the house? Anyway, nice setup.
So that pump draws 8.4amps....was your wire size 14/3 (PFB14/3GG) or 12/3 (PFB12/3GG) from Service Wire Company....as I am doing all the research for the 40acres I plan to buy near Seligman Arizona. Your video's are so valuable and I am looking to also do the same thing as I am a General Contractor in Chandler Arizona and will be creating our vacation/retirement property.
The wire was 8/3 because of voltage drop from the length of the wire. In reality, it only needed to be 8/2. We went with one extra wire in the cable because we hope to put a three phase pump in the well in the future when the current pump goes bad. With a three phase, we're hoping to get closer to 10 gallons a minute. Thanks 🙂
Very awesome!! What do you do to keep from having algae buildup in the tank? Water filtering or treatment?
The tank blocks out all light. We also have three filters and a uv light that the water goes through after the tank. Thanks 🙂
great to see this. No I LOVE THIS. It is best to use a 2 stage pumping system with solar to maximize energy efficiency. One pump in the well to lift the water, 2-4 g/m to a "cache" tank, non-pressurized like you have already. then a pressurizing pump drawing from the tank. But you knew that already. Installing its OWN set of PV panels and running it on DC, you won't have to turn it on and off. Just let it fill and let the PV panels do the work away from your battery system. I have wanted to have a place and do exactly what you are doing here with the 2 stage pumping, really cool. your tank will fill nicely with rain, snow and well. tank fills and the float switch will stop the well when full. Nicely done. I love solar. I am off grid power 100% March to October, but I am adding more panels for winter support. Lots of sun high in Utah
Your above ground water pipe is not UV protected. You need to cover it. Paint it or wrap it.
Grundfos is what I have too. Mine has 1.1K solar dedicated to it. My house only has 2.2K! It would have been nice to combine the two, but that wasn't practical. BTW, I have a series of shorts showing my pump being replaced last year on my @wildweeds channel.
Looks like a cool product. So, you don't need a safety rope or torque limiters with the hose? How deep did you set the pump ( 6hp pump)? Thanks for sharing this!
The boreline is the safety rope. It's near impossible for it to break or degrade and break. So since it's a hose, there is no water hammer to worry about since it's flexible and absorbs the water hammer from pump start-up. Torque limiters/check valves are not needed except for one near the pump, which is just for protecting the pump. The pump is set at 840 feet and is only 1 hp. Thanks 🙂
Torque limiters center the pump and line in the well especially near the pump to limit/stop abrasion to the pump, wires and lines especially the wiring. A 1hp pump at 850' of head is amazing!
@rixtrix11 Oh right. There is a torque limiter. It was the black rubber looking thing right near the pump with three fins going around.
I know nothing about water-wells. I didn't understand the piping-adapter you first installed in the casing. And I didn't understand
the T-bar installation thing. What is holding up all that weight ? The rigidity of the tubing and the wiring against the casing-wall ?? I didn't understand how you connected it to the plumbing-adapter that you first installed ??
That adapter is called a pitless adapter. It is very hefty and very capable of holding the near 700 pounds of total weight that hangs from it. The T bar is what is used to connect to the adapter to install it or pull it out if needed. There is a lot to learn when it comes to wells. And although I don't know it all, I have learned a lot myself. Thanks 🙂
The fitting is special and holds the piping suspended so it doesn't fall to bottom...as well as passes through the wall of casing. Need to get the water out right? It's normally installed below the frostline of the area so it doesn't freeze. That means it's down in the casing a few feet. So you need the T bar to connect to it and install/remove it.
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One question I always have when using hose or poly is how do you get it back out of the well when the hose is full of water? You can’t put it back on a reel.
Yes, you can pull it out with the water in it. It won't hurt anything. Thanks 🙂
@@aboulderlifeoffgrid Thanks. I actually called them and am getting a quote. 👍
You could suction it out if ya wanted to
Nice guys. You found the water level but how deep is it cut? You need to know that in order to calculate what level to drop the pump to. don't you?
Correct. The well is 875 ft deep, and the pump is set at 840 ft. Thanks 🙂
@@aboulderlifeoffgrid ah i musta missed it. my bad
@@aboulderlifeoffgrid Most wells today have 2" black roll pipe for volume. but idk all the details on your setup. maybe 1" is all the pump can handle
I believe it’s pronounced Grun-Fus not grun-fos.
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code really only applies when you are connected to the grid and other utilities ....and if you have or are getting homeowners insurance
most of us off grid people are trying to get away from all of those things
also...victron? should have gotten an XW system
1 gallon in 20 seconds is 3 gallons per minute. Isn't that what you thought it would be ?
It was 1 gallon in 28 seconds.
So, how much does all this stuff cost? Some of us need to know costs….
How big across is that green tank? 😁
I know it's 10 feet tall at 5,050 gallons. Might be 10 feet wide.
Did you guys test the water yet????
Not yet. But the coconino aquafir is well known for very good water. Thanks 🙂
Did/should you have to test the water before drinking it?
It'd be a good idea. The aquafir here is known for really good water.
if you remove all those restrictions (straps) it will be MUCH better
The straps help support the cable. Otherwise, the cable would be hanging from one point, which is like 250 pounds of pressure. Thanks 🙂
@@aboulderlifeoffgrid You are most probably right (do I say that correctly?) but still a lot of restrictions added together. Stupid idea, now the hose is full of water, drop a small camera on a rope down the pipe to see if there are restrictions visible. The thing is that I fill such a bucket in 10 seconds. but my pump is above ground so the water level cannot be lower then 10m (10 yards). and your water comes from wayyyyy deeper(which is beautiful of course :-) thanks for replying to my ramblings 🙂
302.4 psi, that pump is working, ...
Question why only a hundred and twenty volt pump? My wireless 500 feet deep.The pump is set at 400 feet deep 240 V.A c pump running off off grid solar for twenty two years. My pump is fifteen gallons a minute. Some wondering why such a small pump.
The reason it's a small pump is cost. The good thing is that it's multivoltage. It can run up to 300 volts dc or 240 volts ac. Currently, as you know, it's running on 120v ac. We're going to change that and run it on 240v ac. Hopefully, that increases the water flow. Thanks 🙂
Why don’t you build a house around the tank so the water won’t freeze
Aren't all tow straps three dimensional?
What was cost of the wire and hose per foot?
No rescue rope?
The boreline is the rescue rope as well. Thanks 🙂
What breed is your dog? We rescued a 2.5month old Lab Pit mix and they look very similar now that he's 7 months old
He is at least part border collie and part healer. We don't know what else is in him. He was a rescue. And he loves his squeaky toy 😅
@@aboulderlifeoffgridwe have the same miX in our dog. She is a rescue out of West Virginia and we are in Ohio Heelers live to be quite old. Our Missy is 13 and still acts like a pup. Very few health problems with them they are just wonderful
Oh yes super smart as I am sure you know
Am I wrong? Is your pump set more than double (770' static water depth) the max depth of the hose rating of 300' ?
The hose is rated to go 1200 feet. The pump is sitting at 840 feet. Thanks 🙂
@@aboulderlifeoffgrid Do you have a link to that product. The specs for the well hose I found the max is only 300'
@McDIY There's a link in the description to their website. Their phone number and email are listed there as well.
Why did you put a 3” pump in it? They are much more expensive than a 4”
I'm new to the well pump world. And it's what our driller recommended. Thanks 🙂