I booked a guided bow hunt in Illinois with "Deer Ridge Outfitters "owned by Brad Scroggins. A guide took me to a treestand where I walked across a field to a treestand.Shorty after arriving a truck pulled up and the driver walked directly to me and asked what I was doing in his treestand on property that noone was allowed to be hunting on.I tried calling guide but no answer. Long story short, the guide abandoned me, and the landowner ended up taking me back to camp.Outfitter was nowhere around, and the guide stole my bow case and arrows. Called the Illinois attorney general, and they refused to do anything. Very true story.
@bearclaw5141 After I went back to the camp, the outfitter and guide couldn't be found. After returning home, I called the I called the Illinois attorney generals office, and they told me that even though they had similar complaints, they refused to do anything about it. You're right. I should have called the law.
@JohnLee-ud2gm Oh, I see. You guys met at Camp, not at a facility of theirs. You might be able to go after their guide business. It's crazy that the law won't help you get YOUR equipment back
Me and a buddy took our college aged sons to a lodge in Arkansas for a very anticipated high dollar duck hunt. First morning after all the hype at breakfast, we saw 3 ducks in 5 hours. The owner of the lodge was acting embarrassed and making a bunch of excuses...said he felt bad that the ducks weren't flying, so to make up for the poor morning he would put us on some geese that afternoon because they were migrating big time. He gave us directions to meet a couple of his buddies at a field about 10 miles away who he said would set us up for geese. We were thrown in a blind with some guys who weren't from our lodge, but were really nice guys to hunt with. We ended up having a pretty good shoot on the geese and everyone got their limit, which I think was 5. After the hunt, while the group is standing around dividing up the geese, the guide approached us and said the hunt fee was $500 per man ($2,000 for us four). I said that we weren't told there was an additional cost to the $800/person/day we were paying the duck lodge, and that we were just told by the lodge owner to come here and shoot geese because the duck hunting was so pathetic, and he never mentioned an additional cost. I told him I wouldn't have brought my son over there to shoot 10 geese for a $1,000 if we had been told the cost...after all we shoot all kinds of geese here in Michigan, so it wasn't like some special thing we never had done before. We told him we didn't have $2,000 on us to pay him, and he said well I'll just collect from the lodge and they can add it to your bill...which they did. After two days of duck hunting the four of us had a total of 5 ducks come into decoys in 10 hours of sitting in blinds. When we left I gave the owner a piece of my mind and said I understand that hunting isn't a guarantee, so I can maybe excuse the rotten duck hunting, but the shit he pulled with that goose hunt was very unethical, and we would never come back and would tell everyone we knew not to go there. I think he wanted to drum up some business for his buddies, but he knew if he told us it would be an extra $2,000, we wouldn't have gone, so he just played it off like it was a "payback" for the non-existent ducks. Not to mention the staff was rude...I made small talk with one of the cafeteria workers at breakfast, and simply asked what was on the dinner menu that night...her reply was a snarky "food". I told her that for $800 per day I would hope that dinner was "food". On a scale of 1-10 for terrible yet expensive hunting experiences, they scored an 11.
Try being a musky guide. Possibly the hardest fish to catch. Everyone wants to catch a 40 pounder. And they're not happy with the 20+ pound they just caught.
As someone who lives in Wisconsin with plenty of musky and has only caught one 40 incher. I feel this. Mine might not have been the biggest, but I was happier than a pig in shit.
I’d be happy just to catch one lol. Last good size fish I caught was about 5 years ago, and it was a drum lol. Probably about 15-20 pounds, pretty sure I accidentally snagged it. Can’t remember for sure.
I've been hunting for 45 years, including Africa. I think my best trophy is this gnarly 6-pt white tail - the antlers actually cross. My b-i-l, my best friend, and I hunted that thing HARD for 2 seasons because we wanted him out of the gene pool, I finally got him on the last day of the end of that 2nd year we were hunting for him. The amount of sweat and time we put into hunting that turd, which we'd named Trainwreck...the good times and laughing and good camp meals and Bourbon, just hanging with 2 of my favorite people in the world. When I look at those antlers hanging behind my desk, that's what I remember. That's the trophy.
I got a worst guide story. My guide last week was too busy looking at his phone to notice the elk walking up to him on his side while we were calling bulls in.
@@jonah-n8l Am I supposed to have eyes on the back of my head dingus? He was on the left side, I was on the right. The bull walked up on his side 5 yards from him. Meanwhile he’s face down scrolling through his phone.
The beauty of being a guide is that you get to share the love you have for the animals and environment in a meaningful and impactful way. If someone doesn’t have that love, it’s your responsibility to try to nurture their relationship with flora and fauna for the better
I was on a guided trip and got ridiculed for taking a smaller more unique buck over a higher gross buck. Probably not 10 inches of difference if that. But the one I shot was unique and still looks like a great mount compared to deer of greater score on my wall. Still in the same price range as the one I passed
Ill never understand guys who get hungup on iches. Like i kind of understand it if youve drawn a quality tag. Holding out for a certain sized buck. But thats not the reason for hunting. Its putting meat in the freezer, hanging out or meeting new friends, and enjoying the outdoors. My first buck was a 1x2 and no deer will ever match how much he means to me. The close second is my first buck with a bow. Freezing to death in a treestand and then showing him to my niece and nephew later. Those memories cant be replaced by inches.
I worked on a sport fishing boat in Alaska so the types of client interactions are pretty similar if not the same. Trophy fishing/hunting makes some people turn outright strange. The most odd behavior from grown adults starts to happen, even in front of their families.
Nah. Here's a horror story scenario: Your guide takes you hunting a Leopard in Africa in a preserve (which do NOT have fences) and close to sundown you find yourselves 10 miles from your vehicle, one of you takes a Mopane jab to the leg which half cripples, and the smell of blood is picked up by Hyenas and Lions nearby. You both have bolt action rifles with about 10 rounds each.
Whats mopane?? Some sort of thorny bush?? Sounds like a nightmare with bolt guns but at least you had a box of shells. I heard a guy and his buddy got surrounded by wolves in canada and one had a bow, the other a rifle with only 3 rojnds........😮😮
We guide bear northern Maine over bait. Client sat in blind with loaded rifle, was instructed to load after I left. Negligent discharge through my blind. Luckily it went sideways while I was hanging more bait. Boy was I pissed.
ive been the hunter and ive been the guide or prostaffer and the worst i can remember is when a hunter showed up to dove hunt with out hunting permits , gun still in the box and thats not even the worst of it. he shot one of our prostaffers point blank and it wasnt even a dove. ive got 30 plus years worth of stories but this one sticks with me.
It’s really par for the course you charge insane prices you get the biggest jerks in the world. You have great prices. You will get nothing but praise and some of the best experiences you’ll ever have with other people, who were just happy to be there.
Worst guide I had was one in Asseteague, VA who double booked us. We didnt get out to catch twilight, then he picked us up first. Not the way to get repeat new customers but the way to get a lot of badmouthing on social media. In fact, I need to throw some more one stars his way. Google loves me.
My buddy went to Canada hunting moose and right at dark he shoots a monster. So the guide goes and looks for it and my buddy finds blood but the guide says we will come back in the morning. So the next morning the guide says he’s going out with the camp owner and there’s no room for my buddy to come with in the boat. Hours later they show up covered in blood and say they couldn’t find it. My buddy has shot many moose and said he’s never seen a set of antlers that wide. Those Canadian thieves kept it and the kicker is the owner told my buddy to never come back to their camp. That ended all future guided hunts for me
I had a hunter close his bolt and discharge a 300 Wby with a brake head level between us in a 4x4 plastic outhouse blind. Trigger had been set way light and it was single digit temps. My ears have rang ever since. One guy shot his crossbow off in my truck, bolt went through floorboard, glanced up through the hood and limb slapped his brother damn near took his knee cap off. Had a guy nearly shoot me with a 10 ga as we were belly crawling across an alfalfa field after turkeys after I told him TWICE not to chamber one yet. They are no longer clients😅
Nobody gets to say what hunting is or isn't. Hunting guides have been around as long as hunting. You think everyone in the tribe was a great hunter lol
The how to hunt channel has a crazy guide story. He guides in BC and had camp full of clients from the US. One guy in particular kept acting shady which eventually culminated in a near fist fight with the other clients around camp. Turns out this guy had emptied the gun powder out of his cartridges and filled them with meth to avoid detection at the border crossing. Dude was using meth at a remote hunting camp and then acting a fool. I believe they needed to call rcmp to handle the situation 😳🤦
😂 No matter what the situation is, there's nothing that puts a damper on an activity more than a bad attitude. Especially, when it's an insecure, controlling adult that doesn't get their way. Like Wolfe said, this could have been a once in a lifetime opportunity for the dad to show his sons that he was cool and collected under adversity, but chose to be sulking, rude and inconsiderate person instead. I guess money and power really does corrupt people, doesn't it?
I am a guide who works for an outfitter who tends to hire drunks once in awhile and I end up picking up extra clients due to guides just doing no call no shows…. That’s as unprofessional as I see
That’s crazy dude I would love to just go on a guided hunt for the experience of tracking someplace new on the hunt for a beautiful elk. I could give a rats ass what the deer measured as long as it’s a mature bull that fills the freezer. Shit shoot me a discount code. I’ll be the chillest happiest client you’ve ever had.
@Sureshots. Just get a map and research the area you are hunting and are not familiar with. Idk, it's just odd to me that people would pay some random person you do not know to hold your hand on a backcountry walk through the woods
@@kordi7888it’s different environments people aren’t comfortable with idk about you but I’d rather book someone who knows what there doing so I’d have a better chance at harvesting what I’m after and also not get lost in a environment I don’t know and possibly die from lack of experience in that environment mountains are big and scary to people who live in flat fielded areas and big city’s
@@stalkandshootoutdoors9587this dude wouldn’t survive 3 hrs without falling down a cliff, thinking “just look at the maps bro” until the maps got you going over sketchy ass terrain that a guide would know to avoid. Not to mention how tf can I randomly go to a state like Washington and hunt elk without absolutely 0 knowledge of the area, 0 land to hunt on and 0 people to help me haul back whatever I might kill.
Depends how hands on the guide is. I like using a guide to help me get to locations I don’t have the tools or accommodation to access. I.e helicopters, jet boats, remote cabins
How u doing. I'm not a fan of the owner. My brother is married into the family, but I have killed a nice 130 inch 10 point from there. I no longer hunt there, even though he let's me for free because I'm family. But I'm not a fan of him, won't mention his name. But what was ur experience if u don't mind me asking, just curious
@Adam-bu6sb Brian and Mike are both dishonest, Brian doesn't even own the land as you know, Montie is the owner, has people hunting there and tresspassers before hunters arrive in camp. They are completely unprepared, don't care about stand selection or wind, Brian misled us this year, had property select cut never told us before arriving. Mike is a fake as well, he tries harder than Brian but still a fake. Their church camp sucks, Mikes main camp is good, Brian's B camp was good , long story I won't get into on line but Brian really screwed me over this past season. I will continue to notify people not to go there and support them. Hope they read this as well, I have posted in as many places as possible to help people save their money and go with a REAL outfitter that actually knows what they are doing. Please feel free to share with them what I wrote.
Thanks for responding. Sorry u had a shitty experience. Like I said I'm not a fan of mike, wasn't going to mention his name but screw it. He has some great bucks on the property but I can't stand to b around him. Can't fake liking him just to hunt
Hunters are quick to make fun of a sport because there is a large percentage of them that will never understand or value the work that goes into a successful hunt. And perhaps wont even value their fortune to spend time in some beautiful landscapes. It has nothing to do with the money
Try being an elk hunting guide, that's hunted bulls for 26 years, trying to guide a white tail hunter! Yall are a great source of entertainment for us! Thank God no more non resident over the counter tags in colorado! Yall full of crap
Midwest whitetail hunter here. Did a solo hunt for elk in Colorado. Packed the bull and everything out from miles deep by myself. You sound just like all the other d-bags that think they own public land.
I booked a guided bow hunt in Illinois with "Deer Ridge Outfitters "owned by Brad Scroggins. A guide took me to a treestand where I walked across a field to a treestand.Shorty after arriving a truck pulled up and the driver walked directly to me and asked what I was doing in his treestand on property that noone was allowed to be hunting on.I tried calling guide but no answer. Long story short, the guide abandoned me, and the landowner ended up taking me back to camp.Outfitter was nowhere around, and the guide stole my bow case and arrows. Called the Illinois attorney general, and they refused to do anything. Very true story.
Did you ever go back to get your stuff? Take a Sheriff and get your stuff back
@bearclaw5141 After I went back to the camp, the outfitter and guide couldn't be found. After returning home, I called the I called the Illinois attorney generals office, and they told me that even though they had similar complaints, they refused to do anything about it. You're right. I should have called the law.
@JohnLee-ud2gm Oh, I see. You guys met at Camp, not at a facility of theirs. You might be able to go after their guide business. It's crazy that the law won't help you get YOUR equipment back
Call the Game warden or illinois DNR. They handle stuff like that
@matthewholmes8638 Hind sight I should have.
Measuring animals has ruined hunting. I could never be a guide. The time with my family is far more important than the racks.
Just a tool to know what mature animals look like.
You nailed it!👍
Everyone’s too hung up on that number, don’t give a damn about the deer or the memories anymore
Trophy hunting is the only sustainable hunt... if everyone only trophy hunted, the age structure in big game would be far better balanced.
Me and a buddy took our college aged sons to a lodge in Arkansas for a very anticipated high dollar duck hunt. First morning after all the hype at breakfast, we saw 3 ducks in 5 hours. The owner of the lodge was acting embarrassed and making a bunch of excuses...said he felt bad that the ducks weren't flying, so to make up for the poor morning he would put us on some geese that afternoon because they were migrating big time. He gave us directions to meet a couple of his buddies at a field about 10 miles away who he said would set us up for geese. We were thrown in a blind with some guys who weren't from our lodge, but were really nice guys to hunt with. We ended up having a pretty good shoot on the geese and everyone got their limit, which I think was 5. After the hunt, while the group is standing around dividing up the geese, the guide approached us and said the hunt fee was $500 per man ($2,000 for us four). I said that we weren't told there was an additional cost to the $800/person/day we were paying the duck lodge, and that we were just told by the lodge owner to come here and shoot geese because the duck hunting was so pathetic, and he never mentioned an additional cost. I told him I wouldn't have brought my son over there to shoot 10 geese for a $1,000 if we had been told the cost...after all we shoot all kinds of geese here in Michigan, so it wasn't like some special thing we never had done before. We told him we didn't have $2,000 on us to pay him, and he said well I'll just collect from the lodge and they can add it to your bill...which they did. After two days of duck hunting the four of us had a total of 5 ducks come into decoys in 10 hours of sitting in blinds. When we left I gave the owner a piece of my mind and said I understand that hunting isn't a guarantee, so I can maybe excuse the rotten duck hunting, but the shit he pulled with that goose hunt was very unethical, and we would never come back and would tell everyone we knew not to go there. I think he wanted to drum up some business for his buddies, but he knew if he told us it would be an extra $2,000, we wouldn't have gone, so he just played it off like it was a "payback" for the non-existent ducks. Not to mention the staff was rude...I made small talk with one of the cafeteria workers at breakfast, and simply asked what was on the dinner menu that night...her reply was a snarky "food". I told her that for $800 per day I would hope that dinner was "food". On a scale of 1-10 for terrible yet expensive hunting experiences, they scored an 11.
The Ozarks isn't your friend. They've been poor so long, they've kind of made their own rules up.
Try being a musky guide. Possibly the hardest fish to catch. Everyone wants to catch a 40 pounder. And they're not happy with the 20+ pound they just caught.
How could you not be happy with a 20+lb fish that is nicknamed “the Fish of 10,000 casts”?! I’d be stoked with a 15lber!
As someone who lives in Wisconsin with plenty of musky and has only caught one 40 incher. I feel this. Mine might not have been the biggest, but I was happier than a pig in shit.
I’d be happy just to catch one lol. Last good size fish I caught was about 5 years ago, and it was a drum lol. Probably about 15-20 pounds, pretty sure I accidentally snagged it. Can’t remember for sure.
I've been hunting for 45 years, including Africa. I think my best trophy is this gnarly 6-pt white tail - the antlers actually cross. My b-i-l, my best friend, and I hunted that thing HARD for 2 seasons because we wanted him out of the gene pool, I finally got him on the last day of the end of that 2nd year we were hunting for him. The amount of sweat and time we put into hunting that turd, which we'd named Trainwreck...the good times and laughing and good camp meals and Bourbon, just hanging with 2 of my favorite people in the world. When I look at those antlers hanging behind my desk, that's what I remember. That's the trophy.
The whole story is b*******They lose their antlers every And you hunted that butt 2 years with the crossed antlers What a line of shit.
I got a worst guide story. My guide last week was too busy looking at his phone to notice the elk walking up to him on his side while we were calling bulls in.
Y weren’t u lookin?
@@jonah-n8l Am I supposed to have eyes on the back of my head dingus? He was on the left side, I was on the right. The bull walked up on his side 5 yards from him. Meanwhile he’s face down scrolling through his phone.
@@GuineaPigLover666 haha city boy makes more money than you. The only people who make fun of guided hunts are the ones who can’t afford them
Isn't the rut over yet?
@@bz9138 bro thinks spending money on a guided hunt is a dig. Go find your own game beta
The beauty of being a guide is that you get to share the love you have for the animals and environment in a meaningful and impactful way. If someone doesn’t have that love, it’s your responsibility to try to nurture their relationship with flora and fauna for the better
I was on a guided trip and got ridiculed for taking a smaller more unique buck over a higher gross buck. Probably not 10 inches of difference if that.
But the one I shot was unique and still looks like a great mount compared to deer of greater score on my wall.
Still in the same price range as the one I passed
New to them channel. Loved you Wolff as a Bronco. Love the channel!!! Bronco for life. Love Cliff - great stuff!
Ill never understand guys who get hungup on iches. Like i kind of understand it if youve drawn a quality tag. Holding out for a certain sized buck. But thats not the reason for hunting. Its putting meat in the freezer, hanging out or meeting new friends, and enjoying the outdoors. My first buck was a 1x2 and no deer will ever match how much he means to me. The close second is my first buck with a bow. Freezing to death in a treestand and then showing him to my niece and nephew later. Those memories cant be replaced by inches.
I worked on a sport fishing boat in Alaska so the types of client interactions are pretty similar if not the same. Trophy fishing/hunting makes some people turn outright strange. The most odd behavior from grown adults starts to happen, even in front of their families.
Sounds like father and sons were all new to hunting and it was more for bragging rights than all the important things one can take away from a hunt.
Nah. Here's a horror story scenario:
Your guide takes you hunting a Leopard in Africa in a preserve (which do NOT have fences) and close to sundown you find yourselves 10 miles from your vehicle, one of you takes a Mopane jab to the leg which half cripples, and the smell of blood is picked up by Hyenas and Lions nearby. You both have bolt action rifles with about 10 rounds each.
Whats mopane?? Some sort of thorny bush?? Sounds like a nightmare with bolt guns but at least you had a box of shells. I heard a guy and his buddy got surrounded by wolves in canada and one had a bow, the other a rifle with only 3 rojnds........😮😮
Wts the nightmare? I don’t get it? U scared of the dark or ? I’m confused?
@@jonah-n8l not confused, just ignorant… sundown = dinner time for predators 👌
@@jonah-n8lyou obviously have never been to Africa. You aren't in KS anymore. You ARE on the menu
Great Guest! Cliff is the Man!😊
Looks like a great podcast, I need to check out more of it.
My uncle is a hunting guide in Kodiak. He has some really bad and sad stories that involve Brown Bear
We guide bear northern Maine over bait. Client sat in blind with loaded rifle, was instructed to load after I left. Negligent discharge through my blind. Luckily it went sideways while I was hanging more bait. Boy was I pissed.
Big Chino - JP, Arizona.
ive been the hunter and ive been the guide or prostaffer and the worst i can remember is when a hunter showed up to dove hunt with out hunting permits , gun still in the box and thats not even the worst of it. he shot one of our prostaffers point blank and it wasnt even a dove. ive got 30 plus years worth of stories but this one sticks with me.
Amazing story! The heli-pilot part took me out😂
Southern Utah?
‘I don’t want that deer’ 🤔 Sounds like Derek’s buddy embellished some details. New sub btw. Keep it up
It’s really par for the course you charge insane prices you get the biggest jerks in the world. You have great prices. You will get nothing but praise and some of the best experiences you’ll ever have with other people, who were just happy to be there.
This is a good story. Everybody needs to check out Steve isdahls crazy guide story hahaha that one is nuts
Worst guide I had was one in Asseteague, VA who double booked us. We didnt get out to catch twilight, then he picked us up first. Not the way to get repeat new customers but the way to get a lot of badmouthing on social media. In fact, I need to throw some more one stars his way. Google loves me.
Maybe the guy was having a bad day?? You seem pretty proud to ruin someone’s small business.
My buddy went to Canada hunting moose and right at dark he shoots a monster. So the guide goes and looks for it and my buddy finds blood but the guide says we will come back in the morning. So the next morning the guide says he’s going out with the camp owner and there’s no room for my buddy to come with in the boat. Hours later they show up covered in blood and say they couldn’t find it. My buddy has shot many moose and said he’s never seen a set of antlers that wide. Those Canadian thieves kept it and the kicker is the owner told my buddy to never come back to their camp. That ended all future guided hunts for me
“I’m sorry ranger I was about to take a shot on this buck and for some reason this idiot jumped out in front of my gun! I know right?! Crazy.” 😂
If this is your worse guide story youve had it easy.
I had a hunter close his bolt and discharge a 300 Wby with a brake head level between us in a 4x4 plastic outhouse blind. Trigger had been set way light and it was single digit temps. My ears have rang ever since. One guy shot his crossbow off in my truck, bolt went through floorboard, glanced up through the hood and limb slapped his brother damn near took his knee cap off. Had a guy nearly shoot me with a 10 ga as we were belly crawling across an alfalfa field after turkeys after I told him TWICE not to chamber one yet. They are no longer clients😅
I think you need to raise your prices 😭😂
Your dumb for letting them have loaded weapons! We don't allow any loaded weapons till we tell them they can load them
@thelittleguy-ih8nv They were told not to load. Believe me, there were multiple times where I had to get shitty with them about it!
Dude these comments are wild. What did he say after almost shooting you even though you told him to not have a round chambered multiple times?
@@localyokel1000 sounds like you were taking Dick Cheney and his friends on a hunting trip 😂
Hunter looses his bolt to the bolt action in the alders Alaska.He freaks out and wants all packers to go look for it.I say no way and walk away.
How tf out of all things do you loose your bolt. I would have told him he's a victim of his own stupidity.
I saw an episode where Shockey’s guides left him in Mexico, and these guys showed up claiming to be his new guides then tried to rob him.
Sounds like a dream hunt to me…, Wow
having one, don't need one don't want one, that's not what hunting is supposed to be about.
Nobody gets to say what hunting is or isn't. Hunting guides have been around as long as hunting. You think everyone in the tribe was a great hunter lol
The how to hunt channel has a crazy guide story. He guides in BC and had camp full of clients from the US. One guy in particular kept acting shady which eventually culminated in a near fist fight with the other clients around camp. Turns out this guy had emptied the gun powder out of his cartridges and filled them with meth to avoid detection at the border crossing. Dude was using meth at a remote hunting camp and then acting a fool. I believe they needed to call rcmp to handle the situation
😳🤦
That how to hunt guy is a meth head
Yep, being a guide isn't all it's cracked up to be. The great clients make it worthwhile, but man...some of the douchebags...
People are insane, if you're near a Wildland Fire you get the F out. Cliff obviously made the right call. Wow.
😂 No matter what the situation is, there's nothing that puts a damper on an activity more than a bad attitude. Especially, when it's an insecure, controlling adult that doesn't get their way.
Like Wolfe said, this could have been a once in a lifetime opportunity for the dad to show his sons that he was cool and collected under adversity, but chose to be sulking, rude and inconsiderate person instead. I guess money and power really does corrupt people, doesn't it?
I am a guide who works for an outfitter who tends to hire drunks once in awhile and I end up picking up extra clients due to guides just doing no call no shows…. That’s as unprofessional as I see
Being threatened as a guide by a Mafia boss if the hunt wouldn’t be successful then…….
All of them..
That’s crazy dude I would love to just go on a guided hunt for the experience of tracking someplace new on the hunt for a beautiful elk. I could give a rats ass what the deer measured as long as it’s a mature bull that fills the freezer. Shit shoot me a discount code. I’ll be the chillest happiest client you’ve ever had.
Look up little Venus fire
Some people suck...
Man that’s terrible idk if it’s a doe i get amped
10 minutes to tell that ?
Horns are too white 🙄😂
Id rather get a bull with a broken beam. Hes a fighter my kind of elk.
Yup, I’d have the mount made that way. The genuine character and truth of it is what makes it special
It's weird to me that some people pay to be guided around on hunts, are these people city folks who'd get lost in a city park or something
I mean I hunt squirrels, deer. If I want to go on a elk hunt in Colorado or something I would need a guide. Although I’m not a city person.
@Sureshots. Just get a map and research the area you are hunting and are not familiar with. Idk, it's just odd to me that people would pay some random person you do not know to hold your hand on a backcountry walk through the woods
@@kordi7888it’s different environments people aren’t comfortable with idk about you but I’d rather book someone who knows what there doing so I’d have a better chance at harvesting what I’m after and also not get lost in a environment I don’t know and possibly die from lack of experience in that environment mountains are big and scary to people who live in flat fielded areas and big city’s
@@stalkandshootoutdoors9587this dude wouldn’t survive 3 hrs without falling down a cliff, thinking “just look at the maps bro” until the maps got you going over sketchy ass terrain that a guide would know to avoid.
Not to mention how tf can I randomly go to a state like Washington and hunt elk without absolutely 0 knowledge of the area, 0 land to hunt on and 0 people to help me haul back whatever I might kill.
Hunting/fishing with guides is for gay rich people.
Depends how hands on the guide is. I like using a guide to help me get to locations I don’t have the tools or accommodation to access. I.e helicopters, jet boats, remote cabins
Avoid Widerack outfitters in Galliopolis Ohio. Can tell you avoid it by my own experiences. Dishonest and misleading
How u doing. I'm not a fan of the owner. My brother is married into the family, but I have killed a nice 130 inch 10 point from there. I no longer hunt there, even though he let's me for free because I'm family. But I'm not a fan of him, won't mention his name. But what was ur experience if u don't mind me asking, just curious
@Adam-bu6sb Brian and Mike are both dishonest, Brian doesn't even own the land as you know, Montie is the owner, has people hunting there and tresspassers before hunters arrive in camp. They are completely unprepared, don't care about stand selection or wind, Brian misled us this year, had property select cut never told us before arriving. Mike is a fake as well, he tries harder than Brian but still a fake. Their church camp sucks, Mikes main camp is good, Brian's B camp was good , long story I won't get into on line but Brian really screwed me over this past season. I will continue to notify people not to go there and support them. Hope they read this as well, I have posted in as many places as possible to help people save their money and go with a REAL outfitter that actually knows what they are doing. Please feel free to share with them what I wrote.
Thanks for responding. Sorry u had a shitty experience. Like I said I'm not a fan of mike, wasn't going to mention his name but screw it. He has some great bucks on the property but I can't stand to b around him. Can't fake liking him just to hunt
Guides are the modern day market hunters. Can’t stand ‘em.
Hunters are quick to make fun of a sport because there is a large percentage of them that will never understand or value the work that goes into a successful hunt. And perhaps wont even value their fortune to spend time in some beautiful landscapes.
It has nothing to do with the money
Try being an elk hunting guide, that's hunted bulls for 26 years, trying to guide a white tail hunter! Yall are a great source of entertainment for us! Thank God no more non resident over the counter tags in colorado! Yall full of crap
Midwest whitetail hunter here. Did a solo hunt for elk in Colorado. Packed the bull and everything out from miles deep by myself. You sound just like all the other d-bags that think they own public land.