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- The Quest for the Historical Jesus has been going on for two centuries - but with not all that much to show for it. Now we're at a place where many people do not believe that Jesus was a historical figure at all, but just sort of "made up."
But according to Ralph Ellis, he's been hiding in plain sight: Jesus is in the pages of history and was a MAJOR FIGURE in the course of empires. In this discussion with host Timothy Virkkala, Mr. Ellis focuses in on the name of Jesus, as dealt with in the three books he's written with Jesus in the title:
• Jesus, Last of the Pharaohs - where Ellis puts Judaism and Christianity into an Egyptican context
• King Jesus - where pointers in the work of Josephus and the Babylonian Talmud and Arthurian myth show that he was not a mere itinerant preacher and "carpenter's son"
• Jesus, King of Edessa - where Mr. Ellis finds the exact persons in actual history that became the major figures in the Gospels, down to specific dates and times.
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Thanks for having Ralph on as a guest! He's has some of the most interesting and original research being done today. Cheers.
Regards the “Elephant Alexander Mosaic”…. This is so obviously the bar Kamza story from the Talmud, there is no discussion or argument to be had.
The only mystery is why the archaeologists and theologians on site (and Willem here), did not know this. Has nobody read the Talmud? Were they trying to cover it up?
Prof Jodie Magness, the chief archaeologist seemed surprised when I told her, suggesting this may be uninformed ignorance. But then we get the likes of the Gormless Gnostic saying I am wrong because Magness says it is Alexander the Great.
Thus the Gormless quoting the Ignorant means I am wrong. You see what I am up against.
Ralph
It must be infuriating. I admire your ability to keep your cool when I'd be tempted to shout. I go through it too. Most peoples' eyes just glaze over after a couple minutes, when the programming kicks in. And so we change the subject and the vicious cycle continues.
Sorry , me knowing talmud only from hearsay. But talmud contains stories just being stories, not neccessarily historical accounts. The kings of Eddessa pretty much overlap with the Claudians (Clothi, the germanicus-branch of the julio-claudians). That said you deserve all the credits by making this vids on the subject whereas Magness and NG are silent or their opinions are not for publication.
Wait a minute. Now Ellis is saying Jesus actually existed? You're kidding right?
Great & informative as always Ralph!
Mt. Sinai is Jabal al Lawz. The amount of evidence found there makes this to be indisputable. Here is one of several of Ralph's blind spots.
Evidence of what
Evidence of spring, camp, wall, altar, and much more.
"ron wyatt mt sinai"
Beware of subversive antagonists.
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was vlad the impaler related to jesus and were they both red heads?????
I've been binging Ralph Ellis. Great stuff. And this is a top interview. Great conversation. Thanks!
Excellent guest and fine interview, thnxs 🙏
I thank both of them for the show, especially for the illumination at 2:05:00 in showing why Christianity is so attractive to servants, as well as to our masters for allowing the former a permanent illusion of possible ascension and salvation: from a nobody to god, from a mortal to eternity in haven! What a false "religious romance"! 😊
Plaster paintings: Frescoes
Hi Ralph, I've heard you mention the pyramid = mt sinai before, but i missed the sources you quoted for the physical descriptions if you did. Specifically the bits about it being hard to climb, mentions of the cave inside, and the description of the dusky pavement. Much appreciated if you could give me sources for that, i have had difficulty finding it with internet searching.
Yes, my description comes from the O.T. and from Josephus’ version of the O.T.
R
1:14:19 Barbarism refers not to a language but names such as Immanuel, Ezekiel, Belteshazzar, Nebuchadnezzar, Eliezar, Ahasuerus. Chopped up names. These names usually have a popular short form, or a different version altogether, or both.
Ralph’s argument is - when Josephus uses the term, he is referring to long hair.
Barber - Latin for beard or hair.
(Saul-Josephus was short haired.)
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Conan the Barbarian was Jesus's great, great grandfather
Mine too
2:12:21 Jesus wasn't a church Christian. To be a Nazarene is to be anointed by God(chosen)singled out from most people. It has nothing to do with religious theosophy. He was also cursed. He was a targeted individual which is also a form of singled out. To be Chesed(ch/crosshairs)harassed by Satan is to be Christian. Real Christians don't have to wear a manmade cross.
It seems like anything from god is immediately targeted here. wtf. This planet fucking sucks. They just destroy the Holy Spirit anytime it incarnates.
Bizar
Manetho also calls Osarseph " PETI-SET" or BODHISAT. All textual critics agree that the Christian tale of Josaphat was based off the Buddhist Bodhisattva ( JOSAPHAT/ BODHISATTVA) .
Most folklorist claim the tales of AESOP were based off the Buddhist BOSAT ( Prakrit form of Bodhisattva). Jesus quotes two fables attributed to AESOP that have their home in Buddhist India and the Jewish Encyclopedia recognizes that the Jewish fables of Aesop are from Buddhist Bosat jatakas.
In his neglected book INDIA IN GREECE the Philologist Edward Pococke shows that Zeus was first Jeyus . This is confirmed by the fact that the earliest attestation of the name Jesus comes from an Amorite ( Maurya /Mero / Mari / Mary) inscription. The Egyptian Pharoah Sheshonk , the Indian Shisunaga, was also an Amorite and connected to the first attestation of JEHOVAH, as Shisunaga was to JAYADEVA or JADEV.
The Moor'ish Copts worshipped Ptah-Osiris with the pink Indian lotus as the Maurya Guptas worshipped Buddha-Charyas.
Ptah / Budha
PYTHAGORAS
BUDDHACHARYAS
PTAH-OSIRIS
The superlative case of Prakrit Charyas is CHARYASTHI / KHAROSTHI ( CHRIST)
Dyeus Pater/Jeyus/Zeus or as the Romans called him Jupiter.
If Ralph's thesis is correct(and I suspect it is) the people of Jesus likely thought he was Buddha and/or Krishna reincarnated.
Joseph was in Egypt at the time, not India.
R
@@RalphEllis did someone claim that that Joseph was in India? We would also like to know how you etymologize Set, or Seth, to mean " son of"?
Sanskrit sat, " truth"
Sanskrit sattva, ' true being'
Hebrew shafat, " judge"
Sanskrit asat, "false", " away"
Hebrew aseph, " depart"
Hence the name of Joseph in Genesis is etymologized from yoseph, 'to add' and punned on with the word " aseph", ' take away'
Arabic shafat, ' judging'
Coptic seth, 'repairation'
Gothic sooth, ' seer', ' judge'
Greek sophia, 'discernment', 'wisdom'
Since the modern classification of languages philologists have denied that they were closed boxes and slowly and steadily allowed for these sperate languages to have had much more affinity with each other than just the occasional loan word.
We read that our word "first" is from the superlative case ( -sthi) of Indo-European ' para', or 'pre' and that Hebrew "bereshit" , ' the begining', or 'first' has the terminating etymon -shit with the meaning of seth, or " to set", or " sit".
Manetho calls Osarseph, who he takes to have been Moses, " PETI-SET", or "Bodhisattva".
In Akkadian inscriptions a diviner / doctor was styled both " ASIPU", the practicer of ASIPUTU, and " MASSU", or Joseph and Moses. The term ' asipu' has also been read as signifying someone who reasons just as the 'bodhi' in bodhisattva is sometimes translated as " reason", " intellect".
"God of Israel. Now Joseph was not only the father of the Israelitish tribes of Ephraim and Manasseh, he was also a deity worshipped by the older inhabitants of Canaan. More than two centuries before the date assigned by Egyptologists to the Exodus, the great Egyptian conqueror Thothmes III. inscribed upon the walls of the temple of Karnak the names of the cities captured by him in Palestine. Among them are Yaqab-el, "Jacob the God," and Iseph-el, "Joseph the God." We are therefore tempted to think that the expression "the house of Joseph" may have belonged to an earlier period than that in which it was applied to the tribes of Ephraim and Manasseh; that, in fact, like Beth-el, "the house of God," it was once used by the Canaanites in a literal sense. Now Beth-el, we are told, the older name of which was Luz, was taken by the house of Joseph, and became in later times one of the two great sanctuaries of the northern kingdom. What if Beth-el had itself been the more ancient "house of Joseph;" what if "the house of the god" and "the house of Joseph" had in Canaanitish days been one and the same? The question may receive an answer if we turn for it to the Assyrian inscriptions. Here we find asipu or asip used in the sense of "a diviner." The word was actually borrowed by the Aramaic of Daniel under the form of ashshaph;2
It is possible that the name of Joseph, like that of Moses, may receive its explanation from Babylonia. Already at the time when the book of Genesis was written, its original meaning seems to have been for- gotten. An alternative etymology is there proposed (xxx. 23, 24), from ásáph, "to take away," and yásáph, "to add;" while in the Psalms (lxxxi. 6) another deriva- tion is suggested, which would connect it (as was after- wards done by Manetho) with the sacred name of the""
On the ancient etymology (transmitted by Eustathius) of Aesop's name as “shining-eye" (or, possibly, “black face"), which would identify his name with the name Aithiops / Hotep / Joseph
The adjective corresponding to the Indo- Iranian noun aṣ̌a/arta, "truth", is Avestan haithya- (haiθiia-), "true", the opposite of which is also druj-. Avestan haithya- derives from Indo-Iranian *sātya. Both of these technical terms form the Buddhas' given name " Siddhartha'. Sanskrit 'arta', or ' artha' is cognate ' rishi' which is ' issa', or ' isa' in Middle-Indic Prakrit.
"There may be some connexion with shed, which in Heb. (Deut. xxxii. 17; Ps. cvi. 37), as in Aramaic, has sunk to denote a demi-god or demon, but which, as Arabic makes probable, meant originally lord (Arab. sayyid, whence Span. cid). Nöldeke (2.D.M.G. 1888, p. 481) would pronounce Shedi (or Shedai, pl. of majesty, like Adonai) "my lord": though usage shews no trace of a consciousness of the pron. "my" (see on the contrary Gen. xvii. 1), it is still not impossible that if it were a very ancient formation, its etymology might have been forgotten and it might have come to be treated as a mere Divine title."
*Aspasioi, Afghan tribe of Joseph
"The common title for the prince who is destined to become a Buddha in the original Indian texts is "Bod- hisattva," and this as we have seen above became "Bûdâsaf,", or, "Bûdâsif" in Pehlevi. But the form "Yudasaf", occurs frequently in the works of Arabic writers as a variant, and it is clear either that the letters b and y must have been similar in form, and that the copyist of some authoritative codex mistook the one for the other, or that in Pehlevib and y are interchangeable¹. In Arabic the change could be accounted for very easily, being caused by the addition of a single dot, thus b andy. Some Arabic MSS. give instead of lag Bûdâsaf, the variant Yuâsaf, or Yawâsaf, which shows that the scribes mistook the for, and read And it is this form, which. يداف. instead of يوسف is due to a scribe's mistake, that has been per- petuated in the Greek 'Iwáoap and in the Ethiopic (through the Arabic) "Yewâsef." Barlaam and Yewasef, p.ixxxvii
Sanskrit Bho, ' light's, Grk Phi & Pho, ' light': "The magical and protective value attributed to the alphabet (Żurawski 1992: 91) also raises the possibility that various Greek letters impressed on lamp-bases (especially, alpha, delta, eta, and eta rho) served an amuletic function. Further, the Greek letter 4 (PHI) may function as a letter-symbol for Duc ('light') as suggested by the inscription 'H Owc' ("the light') found on a lamp from Bet Guvrin, Israel (Magness 2008: 127-128, 131-132, Cave" L12).
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"I have already noted in the J. T. S. xxii 87, p. 267, some examples of borrowing on the part of Hebrew from the Hittite language. Kohen is the Moscho-Hittite kuanis, Lydian kave, Karian Kwv, Koav. Araunah the Jebusite is the Hittite araunis, 'the freeman' or 'noble', and in the name of Bath-Sheba (further transformed into Bath-Sheva' in 1 Chr. iii 5) we must see the name of the Mitannian and Hittite goddess Kheba. Sheba', 'oath', and still less Sheva' has little sense in such a compound, any more than bosheth in a name like Mephi-bosheth, and both owe their origin to a desire to transform the name of a heathen deity into a Hebrew word of similar sound." Journal of Theological Studies p, 401
The calf represents the dynasty of Zebedee ; the horns are the obsolete boanerges. The seven celestial beings (spirits, Hymeneai ) on the left are angels/children/sons of Light opposing the 7 kings/nicolaitans/sons of darkness at the right. It is spiritual warfare and has nothing to do with jewish revolt. The 2 leaders are Ananias (Thaddeus) and Zacharias (Kamtza).
by Josephus ; Albinus and Festus .
Thanks Truthhandler.
Yes, this is so obviously the bar Kamza story from the Talmus, there is no discussion or argument to be had.
The only mystery is why the archaeologists and theologians on site (and Willem here), did not know this. Has nobody read the Talmud? Were they trying to cover it up?
Prof Jodie Magness, the chief archaeologist seemed surprised when I told her, suggesting this may be uninformed ignorance. But then we get the likes of the Gormless Gnostic saying I am wrong because Magness says it is Alexander the Great.
Thus the Gormless quoting the Ignorant means I am wrong. You see what I am up against.
Ralph
@@truthhandler6828 They hate Nerones & Germanicus, thats why they hide this art-work from the public.
@@truthhandler6828 Kamtza = grumpy. bar Kamtza = dopey (the dipper). Thaddeus = bashfull.
@@RalphEllis I never read talmud, but if you say its a talmudic story ; ok it is a talmudic story, so what ? And I support the idea that it is kamtza, pandera, the camillus and agabus, elymas the egyptian and so on. As you know ; believing christians and 'mythvision' for some reason have problems with little Neres. btw the story is in the bible too : Peter & Paul, on the road to damascus.
But there’s both light and dark within all of us
ralph is een ezel, IAAH, IAAAH. popping out videos doesn't make fantasy looks fact
Isä or Isi means FATHER in Finnish ....go figure...
Read "The Oera Linda"
Oh and also the books of Conor MacDari. "Iesa" was an Irish sun god.
@@chrisnewbury3793 isa bin maryam also refers to jesus in arabic quran
Also: The claim that the measurements of the tabernacle of Moses were based on those of the Great Pyramid, and the "Codex Nazaraeus".
53:39 Noah's Ark( Norse Arch, the bifrost). Ozark, Alabama, Wizard of Oz, Kansas, Arkansas. All connected to Ausar/Osiris.
If they were Jews from the exile they converted from orthodox to Nazarene? Wouldn’t they still be worshiping the same god? Both have circumcising requirements following the god of Abraham correct? Just curious as to why the royals needed to learn to follow a different religion honoring the same god
Modo he's called, and Mahu...
You had me at Agenda. Great talk guys. Thank you.
Nazarites = Nicolaites = claudians
This is fascinating, but have a question for Mr. Ellis
I noticed in several podcasts the word marriage is mentioned, did marriage exist in ancient times? I didn’t think marriage existed in ancient times or was it call differently?
Interesting question. I wonder what Mr. Ellis' reply will be. I know this, marriage is originally a term for sex. This is how a man can easily have many wives(think king Solomon), whether they understand it in this way or not. This is lawful marriage, the one involving a ring is legal marriage.
Jesus is Iosa, Iosa goes back to the ancient Irish sun worshippers. Here is a clue for you. Have a blessed day
Clue number 2 Conor Macdari.
Well it's almost to late ,for the seal is close to the fate, may the soul heal, may the Will rise , May the Sun's light shine through the eyes, May the heart make peace with the mind.
May I ask? How should the truth be handled?
I trace Jesus to Eos, the goddess of dawn in Greece. A male version. Dawn, the sun, the morning star. All related.
Sun worship came from Ireland.
good lecture
1:01:01 Carpenter sounds like copper serpent(Copperhead). I sense Immanuel was a spirit painter(Ka painter)as he never taught without illustrations/images/pictures/logos.
Yea baby!
One would like to know where is any word like seph, or Set, translated " son of"? Again, Peti-set is Bodhisattva. A firm philological rule is the more a word is rendered differently, the more it is away from it's homeland. Bootes / Buto / Ptah / Bata are all forms of Buddha. Flinders Petrie unearthed an Indian Buddha at the Memphis Ptah temple dated to the time of Cambyses ( Budd Kambojas). The Therapeutae are the elder ( Sans thera) Buddhae ( putae) that Ashoka sent to Ptolemy Philadelphus in Alexandria
Seph in the ancient Egyptian dictionary mean ‘infant’ or ‘son’.
R
@@RalphEllis although I couldn't find it in the dictionary you referenced, I do trust your memory and don't think your mistaken. Nonetheless, have you considered that Peti is an unattested form of Ptah? Also, as mentioned, all textual critics believe the tale of Saint Josaphat was based off of the Bodhisattva and that most folklorist consider Aesop, whose life parallels Joseph & Hotep, as Bosat, the Prakrit form of Bodhisattva. All this can be easily explained if we consider the Hyksos, or Shepherd kings were the Sanskrit Yakshas from the Oxus which has given us the compound Euxine, aka Ashkenazi. They were aligned with the Scythian Sakya who later became the Saxons , or ' sons of Sakya". Pharoah Sheshonk, the Indian Shisunaga, probably took them to India after he raided Jerusalem for the Ark of the Covenant. Also, the Prakrit title - ISA is also used by the Buddhists to describe the Buddha as Maha-Issa-sya, ( Moses): the Prakrit form of Sans. Maharishi ( rishi / issa')
Anyway, thnxs again for taking time to answer my question and for thinking outside the box! Thnxs Brodhisatvva 🙏
@@danielhopkins296 very interesting. I recommend the books of ConorMacdari which explain the name "Jesus" came from the Irish sun god "Iesa". Also "The Oera Linda" has an interesting take on the connection between Jesus and Buddha.
39:16 I've even heard the version Hiei.
Was Jesus an Egyptian?
No he was an essene and an alien pretty….sure idk🤷🏻♂️lol just wildly guessing
Barbaros is a Greek word the meaning is not beard or hair barbaros is someone tha dosnt have the helenistic teachings .
That comes from words for beard, because Greeks thought bearded people were uneducated "barbarians" or bearded-ones. It's an ancient word root.
@@chrisnewbury3793 tell me the greek word for beard? It is not βάρβαρος, .
@@nickvanr.8584 yes well meanings of words change, or have you never studied linguistics or etymology?
I see some huge contradictions in chronology…Josephus was a busy guy if he was only 25 when frolicking with Nero’s wife…when was this in history?…I think conflating Izates with Jesus, omits the writings of the early church fathers and time lines…Agreat deal of personal fantasies mixed with historical details, IMO!
Spikenard is a Sanskritized tamil word like the Gospel Sindon ( Indian cotton) , cognate Hindi, which was used to swaddle and wrap Jesus and Buddha at death.
How do you anoint someone with cotton?
How do you keep cotton in an alabaster jar?
R
Excellent
What's nuts is, it's just a name and it has sooooooo many variations that's all you need to know that it isn't sacred. "Son of Isis" ok. Big deal. Boy did they do a number on us. Iusa issa I this i that
For REAL. like what the fucckkk
The name is Ralph Ellies.