Survivor - DISGUSTING Tribal Council On
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- What a disgusting group of players who used the #metoo game to manipulate another player...and even worse they voted out the person who genuinely felt creeped out by the creepster and KEPT HIM in the game!!.
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janet and jamal are stars. the alliance that betrayed kellee was sick.
Stars? They just said the usual BS lmao
Big Boy yeah pretty much
Jamal is the best
@@duckwarrior6977 BS? Brave stuff? i agree
@Agju no mate, he means the all talking bullshit and you people fall for it lol😂
Loved that Jeff snapped back at him “I will never let it go”
Abbey Barnhart i agree
Why
Big Boy because that’s the problem. When a problem is ignored, it continues to grow. That’s obvious
Then he proceeds to mansplain.
@@jonathonwhitford946 what is mansplaining?
Jamal spoke so well. Not speaking for women but for himself.
Not to mention he seemed intelligent
@@TheNibiru720 "believe women"? What a joke. For the amount of times I, as a man, have said something makes me nervous or scared only to have them tell me to "man up"
BTFO with your believe women when nobody believes anyone. Clean your own room.
fine young man. that dickhead with the immunity necklace on the other hand..
I hope more men see it his way. I for one agree with his words. What he said just feels right to me. Take a step back and take a look at yourself as a man and how you behave. None of us are special.
Oh Christ you people are so stupid
As soon as anyone, man or woman says "I'm such a good person" red flag.
@Cam Quintin so somebody saying something can be construde as being guilty? what would detect instant guilt and suspicion ? if the person admitted instant guilt then yes, they're guilty. but a statement of innocence can be looked at as guilty because someone thinks the person is? i better watch what i say even though i'm not sure what will incriminate me, if you feel i'm guilty that's enough i guess.
# trump
That’s like being arrested and saying asking for a lawyer means your guilty because you want make a case for yourself.
@@sleepmanual3718 if you're being accused/arrested saying anything even pleading innocence, can make you look guilty. Thats why people stay silent and ask for lawyers. In this case Dan couldn't stay silent so best to keep it at his apology and nothing else... When he chose to plead innocent it only made him look worse.
"You're right, I'll never let it go." YES JEFF!! TELL HIM!!
... And then he completely let it go and let Dan stay in the game. He didn't take action until a producer was touched. CBS does not care about the contestants.
If Jeff really cared he would’ve treated Sue very differently in ASS
The one instance that I thought Jeff was being a real asshole.
@@duckwarrior6977 Dan is that you???
Cringe
What makes me sick is Kellee got voted out BECAUSE she spoke up. That’s the worst part of this whole thing.
Incorrect. Kelle was voted out because she was a strategic threat in the game. Kelle tried to get the vote off herself and onto Dan. Missy and Elizabeth played along and then blindsided the person they perceived to be the biggest threat.
Kellee had already told him not to touch her and he continued to, he is fully aware of his actions and doesn't respect women's boundaries and I hate it when men OR women say they are just "touchy" or "huggy" people when they clearly are huggy and touchy and creepy toward one gender. Anyhow, he was called out on it and Missy and LIz said he stopped the behavior then decided to use it against him as game play. Janet was the only one willing to do what was right and acceptable to just vote him out and eliminate the problem. 2 steps backwards for women
Me and my bf were and still talking about it. I really liked Missy and Elizabeth but we lost all respect for them when they decided to lie about such a sensitive topic. Anddddd on top of that ppl attacking Janet for trying to do the right thing makes me violently sick.
Dori when keelle let Dan know that he made her uncomfortable I think he used it as a psychological game on her. In this case it backfired on him royally.and before you say anything about how inappropriate was there's over a dozen different players that played mind games and s*** like that over the years. What makes me ill is the other women using is gameplay
@@Get_Bent_79 Obviously it wasn't just a psychological game on her or for the game's sake because he got kicked off the show for doing the same thing to staff who weren't even playing the game (off camera). Dan apparently likes to play psychological games with women and seems to think it's okay. I'm glad he got busted. There's plenty of moves in the Survivor game that I would disagree with and deem inappropriate. HOWEVER, no one has ever alerted the producers that they felt violated by any game moves by other players. I don't believe Dan had the game in mind when he was touching Kellee. It's just another way of excusing his behavior.
Yea well in case you dont remember, survivor ain't live so who knows if keller told Danny before or after he tickled her toes not to play with her hairy
I cannot believe they would use something so sensitive to blindside someone
The ironic thing is Dan looks like Harvey Weinstein
and is a Hollywood producer/ talent manager. Too weird.
@@Iridescent_Peasant damn I just realized that
It is all stage!! Go back in the seasons and they all put some player to address some issue: Gay, Race, Transgender, Feminism, Money Standards, War Veterans and so on, and on!! It is TV and they want drama to happen.
@@Mariososa17 I'm pretty sure a woman's not going to Stage feeling uncomfortable about being touched. Someone tells you repeatedly to stop putting your hands on them and you continue to do so anyways, its an issue that should be addressed.
All those people in Hollywood are far left whack jobs.
Kellee couldn't even defend herself during this tribal. :(
Byron Leano not sure if this is true or not but I read that Kellee was given the chance to say something at tribal before it started and she chose not too. Would have been interesting to hear her input on all this tho especially from coming out of the game
Kellee chose not to because she felt like it betrayed the integrity of the game as she was on the Jury
a.j wilson you can’t talk when you’re on the jury
@@fairsterfo Correct, sadly. They did give her the opportunity, but she chose not to
@@kylegn147 I didn't hear about that, but at least she got that chance at the finale.
I think one of the most egregious moments for me, that gets overlooked a lot, is when Dan says "I work in an industry in which the MeToo movement... was allowed, thank god, to blossom", because it's such a good example of how excellent Dan is at rephrasing things to shift blame. The MeToo movement was not "allowed to blossom" in the entertainment industry (and specifically the casting industry that Dan is PART OF), it was suppressed for YEARS and only happened when it reached a boiling point, when it was TOO BAD to keep sweeping under the rug. The fact that he frames it here as if the casting industry was at the forefront of "allowing" women to finally speak up and be heard and not actively putting them in those awful situations in the first place and then silencing them suggests so much about how he thinks about what happened here.
Another example of this is immediately after, when he reframes the situation to making people uncomfortable when he touches them in a crowded shelter or just moving through people around camp, which makes Kellee sound like she's being unreasonable because of course in those situations there's going to be some brief, completely normal and unavoidable physical contact, even though we were explicitly shown him reaching out to touch Kellee's hair while they were walking down a WIDE OPEN beach, or playing with Missy's foot while they were sitting around at the merge feast. And he literally grabs Noura while doing it.
@@Turquise8 dan is a classic manipulator. constantly plays the victim card and reframes the truth
Exactly. The industry he claims allowed the movement to blossom was in fact the industry where the problem existed and was continuously ignored. The movement started and blossomed from women who had the courage to speak out. He is a manipulator. Then goes on about having a wife and kids. As if that's suppose to reassure that he's squeaky clean and would never do such wrong doings.
It's frightening, because as a talent scout, you now know he has a lot of victims of this in his own profession.
@@nickshowman4606 Slight correction: Dan is a classic sexual predator...blames the victims, plays the victim card and reframes the truth.
But yeah, correct.
Dan’s speech was like a workshop video of what a perpetrator will do. Deny, minimize, isolate, etc.
Janet is a HERO
Honestly Janet is the only decent person this season
I don't think that way
@Kelp Farming an angle nobody looked at and brutally but honestly politically incorrect, i love it!!!!
@Kelp Farming I think he's Italian?
@Kelp Farming so....him appropriately touching woman is ok because kellee is a minority woman and he's Jewish?
Janet is best mom! Jamal is best dad!
Jamal was really annoying, wanted to use the race card for a joke
@@PauIdenino stfu
@@w1nnfield
SJW
@@PauIdenino annoying weirdo
Anybody else get uncomfortable with Dan touching another woman during this tribal?
No I felt very good about it but I'm no bitch
No. I don't think it made you uncomfortable, either...I think you just want to prove you're a good guy (and you want a bit of attention)
@@TheNibiru720 really? your profile pick suggests otherwise.
Logan Sweeney huh
I did
How about just keep your hands to yourself Dan, you have a wife and kids. Why the need to touch other women and invade their personal space? GTFO with your apologies.
I’m a guy so maybe I shouldn’t express my opinion but I personally don’t think it’s a bad thing for him to
apologize idk I don’t get why apologizes are bad.
@@zachsimmons6492 within this "apology" he started touching another woman and clearly made her uncomfortable in that moment.. and everything else he said was bullshit excuses. The island is gigantic. How the hell is anyone to believe that out of the miles upon miles of island, he HAD to be that close to someone. Even my own house on Thanksgiving, no one is that close to people. And my house is damn sure not an island
clorox it does get into the 50 degrees Fahrenheit so maybe that was why he was being so close in the first place. But everything else you’re saying I completely agree with. Thanks!
Clorox she didn’t seem uncomfortable at all .
@@lolopop12345 People spoon on survivor for warmth, but Dan was clearly told, multiple times, that he was overstepping a boundary. So he is clearly in the wrong, and it's not a warmth or space issue, he's just a creep
The fact that Kellee and Jamal were the unfortunate casualties after all the shit that went down last week just feels so wrong and gross. Those currently in power, no need to name people at this point, better have a satisfying af downfall with Janet as the rightful winner. Otherwise, this episode would have single-handedly taken what was so far a borderline AMAZING season down to Worlds Apart levels.
I’m kinda confused... so what exactly happened to Janet? Was she touched? Because I thought two girls came forward and said they lied or were 100% truthful and used it to kick dan out of the game. But one girl was telling the truth. Sorry but would you mind clarifying everything if it’s not too much to ask.
@@zachsimmons6492 Janet was never touched. She knew about all the other touching and especially of how much Kellee took issue with it. And she tried to protect the girls. And she also believed that Elizabeth and Missy were being genuine when they talked about Dan's behavior. They lied. Janet went with her heart and tried to protect the girls under that false assumption. And Kellee got burned.
Nels Danburg oh okay thank you so much!
Zach Simmons basically, Kellee, Elizabeth, and Missy came to her and told her that they felt uncomfortable with Dan. However, Missy and Elizabeth over exaggerated the situation. Janet then went all mama bear and tried to protect them, but when she confronted Dan he was like: “wait, some of this never even happened”. And now everyone thinks Janet is a liar
It wasn’t because of close quarters that the touching occurred. Dan was touching just because he could. It wasn’t to move around people. He took a lot of liberties invading people’s personal space. To elude his touching was accidental because of close quarters is false and misleading. I believe this is a pattern with Dan.
he even demonstrated by touching Noura when he didn't have to
It was game...he wanted to make them feel uncomfortable in order for him to have more control over the tribe as a whole. It backfired 10 fold and ultimately he inherited the weinstein mansion off the coast of we ain't saying.
@@TheNibiru720 you are pro -rape and pro-sexual predator all over this comment section. I'm guessing you have some victims and date rapey type stuff in your own closet.
1:40 I’m so happy Jeff threw that right back at Dan as it should NEVER be let go but feel like that’s exactly what can happen all the time
I love Jeff snapping back at him with “ your right, I will NEVER let this go”
Kelle literally told Dan that he was making her uncomfortable long before this tribal council, if he was really sorry, he would have stopped.
“I’m one of the kindest, gentlest people I know.” Ok Dan, keep telling yourself that.
Can we all please take a LONG listen to Jamal? HE is ALSO a HERO. I was absolutely floored by this speech, on the fly, speaking truth to stand up for women, and their defenders. Fucking way to go Jamal, for real. #SurvivorHero #JamalAlly
Jamal is such a good person and is so well spoken. We need more of him in this world
I didn't realize I was rolling my eyes like never before. Dan was already told several times NOT to touch Kellee by Kellee herself and he kept doing it. Very disgusting.
2:30 Literally disgusted me, he's trying to make it look as though something was wrong with Kellee by mentioning the "freezing cold rain" and "tight shelter". Absolutely disgusting. IDGAF about the circumstance, if someone DO NOT TOUCH WOMEN without consent. Period.
I felt truly disgusting watching Dan try and justify his actions and listening to what he said and the NERVE of Aaron to sit there shaking his head when Janet would speak about what was said to her from the girls. THIS IS WHATS WRONG WITH MEN AND SOME WOMEN IN THE WORLD
So am i missing something? The two girls have since had to apologist because they made up the claims to win the game.
Skunkwurx okay and? Bro what are you trying to disprove from my comment?😂😂 I literally never even mentioned the girls that lied anywhere in my comment
@@allisonthornton6291 oh I'm not saying anything, or trying to disprove anythin. Just well confused. I don't watch this show. Was trying to find out what happened really. Was surprised at the comment section after I read some article with a different take. Yours was a reletivly new comment. Apologies for my ignorence
Skunkwurx it’s all good. The girls Elizabeth and Missy went along with claims that Dan was being inappropriate with them which was wrong in itself. Janet is like the mother figure in their tribe. She was willing to risk her entire game and friendship with Dan and mess up her chances of winning 1 million in order to protect the women. Dan, I felt, was being very ignorant and insincere in his talk which disgusted me and the fact that Elizabeth and Missy would lie about something that serious disgusted me as well. I took your reply to my comment as being rude and I apologize for getting angry if that’s not how you meant your comment. Also would like to say I did not know they had apologized and I saw this right after the episode aired so that was before the apologies were put out there
Lol why is 'men' & 'some women'?
That doesnt feel very equal
People like Janet who want to support victims and help them speak up, when they get dismissed and told that they’re “just meddling and not minding their own business” it’s hard on them, and makes them question if they’ve messed something up. Janet was trying to support the women around her, but the men that didn’t want to support those women came after Janet and basically said “sexual harassment is a real world problem, but this isn’t the real world, it’s just a game, so leave it alone”.
1:57 Even Noura - who is usually relaxed, cheerful, and a little nutty - knows that this is getting too real
Yes, I noticed that she nervously laughed and recoiled a little bit when Dan grabbed her to make the point that his touching some women made them feel uncomfortable. I thought to myself 'wow, is this man obtuse!'
It was so incredibly cringe. I almost wish the whole season hadn’t aired. This is genuinely upsetting.
Dan is so dramatic, he's not speaking the truth. I hate this. Janet is a damn hero, and she speaks truth, she knows how it's done. I've been in these types of issues before, and it's so hard to speak the truth, because there's other people who know they're wrong but wanna get out of trouble. I feel Janet, and the other girls. This is from a 14 year old boy he was Sexually Assaulted from ages 12-14 and from males who have have no clue what consent is.
I hope you understand that what happened was Dan is a touchy person, old schooled as some might say. Janet was lied to and thought those lies were true based on the other events, some of the other girls exploited it and put Janet in an awkward spot and used it against her.
@@colterblische I get that, but who was the one to start it? Dan did. Those girls who lied, only did it because they were friends with Dan and didn't want to make a whole fuss about what happened, but I get what your saying.
@@kylelowry150 It may of seemed that way but that's exactly what they did (made a fuss out of it) and tried to manipulate how things went down
@@colterblische True, I'm in defense of Janet because, Janet felt so bad about herself, and literally was gonna leave. She didn't deserve this.
@@kylelowry150 for sure
They made Janet feel she was on the wrong side and playing a game. They absolutely gaslighted her to believe it ‘wasn’t the bad’ and she got duped by the game. Shame on a lot of that cast.
There’s literally footage of Dan doing the things being claimed against him. Some of these commenters are exactly the kind of enabler that Aaron is in this situation regardless of how “receptive” he is of these issues. Jamal is exactly right. Fear of retaliation trumps seeking comfort from the “leaders” of the tribe
Also Dan’s argument makes me only imagine just how terrible he is to all of the women he works with and for where there AREN’T cameras everywhere
It isn't her truth it is the truth! Dan touched Kellie in an inappropriate way.
Multiple times.
I am appalled, doesn’t Dan have a child? Yet, he does things like this! This season was a major F L O P. I hated how to bullies voted off EVERY SINGLE upstander. Look at Kellee, look at Janet, look at Jamal, look at Karishma, look at Molly. This season is seriously disgusting.
The fact that Kellee got voted out after she spoke up about it sickens me. That's silencing the victim.
Nad now dan is saying that this incident is being used against him 😂 like really so its ok if you do it but ithers cant do it to you
@@choux7746 That's the unfortunate truth about people like Dan who like to touch people without their consent, especially after they've already said no. They think it's an incident that can just be swept under the rug and forgotten about. And when someone brings it up, they're "trying to make me look bad". That kind of hypocrisy is alarmingly common.
Woulda been cool if Jeff decided that as a first they’d let Kellee speak about this even tho she was on jury cause on her closeups she looked so bothered. Also Kellee and Janet both deserve to comeback for a season and play a game without all this gross controversy... and Jamal too just cause he seemed like one of the only people that actually got it and understood what was happening
Thank GOD stupid Aaron, Missy, and Elizabeth went out next. Just wish Dan did too.
Dan just got kicked off for inappropriately touching a Survivior staff member!
@@Iridescent_Peasant That was a BS allegation the producers came up with as a pretext to kick Dan out.
Dan never innapropriately touched a crew member. That is a load of horseshit.
Andrew Smith do you have proof, since you’re so certain
@@Itisthatdeepdives I don't need any proof remember. This is America and in this country you are innocent until proven guilty.
If you don't like that, you can go back to whatever garbadge country you came here from.
Keep America Great! Trump 2020!
@@Itisthatdeepdives You need proof to prove someone guilty, not innocent
Not Dan trying to play victim like "OMG you guys keep bringing this uuuuppp! You don't know how this makes MEEE feel!!!" I love that Jeff didn't hold his hand either (though yes, the whole show did a terrible job handling the sitch)
Omg this is disgusting 🤢 Even the way Dan talks about how women have to be “allowed” to stand up for themselves WTF
Shame on them two girls for taking Dans side 😤 Janet has my vote forever
Feel bad that as a Jury member Kelle couldn’t voice her stance in the moment.
The excuse of "Well, I'm surrounded by women so-" iss very much along the lines of "I have black friends so I can do/say that".
Loved this season until last night and feel like I still need to watch as long as Janet is there! #stanet
When the guy who has been sexually harassing and making these girls feel uncomfortable plays the victim in the situation and continues to repeat “since this obviously won’t be let go” in an annoyed voice. And also it’s ridiculous how Missy and Elizabeth said they felt uncomfortable just to better their game like THIS ISNT SOMETHING TO PLAY AROUND WITH. OH MY GOSH AND HOW HE GRABBED NORA WHEN HE WAS EXPLAINING!!! Dan is ridiculous and needs to be kicked out the game. NO THIS ISN’T GAME PLAY!!!! And it’s also so stupid how Dan had the nerve to justify him being a good person by saying I have a big business and I have a wife. THAT DOES NOT JUSTIFY YOUR ACTIONS!!!!!
No shit it's not just a game, but you really chill the fuck out... LOL
When a group of people decide the chance of winning a Mil is worth more than protecting others from a predator
You can't put that burden on the players. It was production's job to step in much earlier than they did.
Janet did the right thing, she felt the need to protect and yet they make it look like a move for a game like seriously, you have no right to know everything but those that do know and do something about it have my respect ✊
This TC is hard to watch...If only I can hug Janet and Jamal and slap Aaron, Missy, Elizabeth and Dan's faces. I wish Janet, Elaine, Karishma or Noura wins this.
Your reaction to inappropriate touching....is more inappropriate touching (hugging and slapping)? Ok
Those were my top 4, now there’s a final 5 with only half of those left. Out of those, I REALLY WANT JANET TO WIN.
@@mattm7378 Do you want a hug from me?
@@blackmamba8918 yes, but only because you asked for consent first lol :p
Matt M fighting fire with fire...
Dan is a creep, Janet is a hero who has spent her life as a protector. The young women who used sexual abuse as “game play” are disgusting. I haven’t been able to see the final episode as it seems to be non-existent
I'm so glad Elizabeth and her boyfriend didn't go to the reunion. Watching Aaron make an apology video crying, was pathetic as well. He only apologised because what he said was put in the episode. If his opinion at tribal council wasn't put in the episode, he wouldn't have done it.
Obviously. Because then nobody would have seen it so there would have been nobody to apologise to.
She and Missy are the real pigs in the situation for exploiting it. Shame on them
This entire season has been handled extremely poorly. It’s just sad. And very disappointing. I think we all know who won the season
I just love Jamal so much
3:33 Shit that makes me want to cry too when Janet gets emotional.
Janet is amazing and so is Jamal ❤️👏🏻
I can’t even imagine how it must’ve felt to be Kellee sitting through this, unable to say anything.
Goodbye Survivor, after 39 seasons, my fire is out
Steve Rivers i felt that
you’re tapping out right before the all winners season!
I'm sorry I gotta see Sandra at least one last time
My torch will stay lit forever
I feel like there’s been too many situations of racism, homophobia, and sexism that has been ignored or taken too lightly throughout survivor...
Biggest part that irks me is Dan repeatedly asking "Is this going to be let go?" and only issuing his "apology" after being told it wasn't.
Is anyone actually that desperate to win the game that they would make up a lie like that?
That’s what bothers me about this, is that people actually thought Janet was willing to ruin Dan’s life, when in actuality, Dan was not good.
Well its funny how some of them are trying to say real workd and this workd is seperate when clearly its both intertwined. That yes girls can be desperate enough to do anything thats why the entertainment industry have a bad rep
Jamal is my hero
1:13 literally made me cry I needed to here that
If Dan was really sorry he would’ve pulled himself out of the game. Simple as that.
Word
Can’t believe Dan said he was proud to have been a part of the start of the meetoo movement because of his industry and him personally.
not only did Dan act like it was all in Kellee's head because of the circumstances, dude then even doubled down by taking credit for the Me Too Movement
Worst season ever. I'm sure prod is aware of the issue from day one and they waited so long to address it and take action. totally disgusting. The alliance that betrays Kellee is very awful.
This guy is lying 🙄 anyone with any kind of concept of reality going on around them realizes it's not ok to just randomly touch anybody without their consent. 5 women feeling uncomfortable is not a coincidence
@DaBoominBerkan And they both issued apologies for what they did and said
@DaBoominBerkan Really because they said they lied because they wanted to play on Kelee's claims so they can get sympathy and make allies.
@DaBoominBerkan they apologize, which you dont believe, but they show us video clips out of context and you believe those? Do you think women can lie, cheat and steal too or just men can? Im genuinely curious
Laura Plant To be fair he isn’t self aware at all he was looking through peoples bags for an idol while people were staring right at him so I honestly think he’s just that dumb
Idk 5 women seems sketchy inside jobs
I don't know how Missy or Liz can sit there and not admit that it was their fault when Janet is right there breaking down. So glad neither one of them won. They used it to manipulate Janet then when it got brought up they sat there silently.
Jamal deserves $1 million just for those words. What a stand up guy.
Truthfully I've seen nothing about jamal really posted but this is my first time seeing this clip (I've just started island of idols I fell behind 😩) 8 absolutely respect and adpre him
Bravo to Jamal. And amazing kudos to Janet for being the one who stood up for all the women even though they all didn't back her up in the moment. Proud of Janet. Proud of Jamal. Aaron tried to cover some of his tracks but he failed the moment; hopefully not only he but everyone watching (particularly all the men) should take a lesson from this and follow the lead like Jamal. Don't be a Dan either. I also fee so horrible for Kellee who couldn't respond in the moment to Dan due to her being on the jury and her having to sufffer through his 'apology' -- imagine being innapopriately touched by someone then having that person in front of you yet you have to reign it in? Kudos to Kellee for having the strength to not break the rules and just slam Dan during the Tribal. This whole situation should never have gone on as long as it did and the producers didn't do enough to protect the contestants. He should have been ejected far sooner, period.
“Good point Jamal…Let’s get rid of him because I can beat Dan in the finale!”
So this man is really deflecting by mentioning his business, physically grabbing on women(nonconsensually) for no reason , and attacking jeff? 😏ok .
But there are multiple clips shown that Dan is doing these uncomfortable acts and she said please don’t do it but continued to do so... this was a great discussion on this topic in my opinion
GO OFF JEFF DONT LET IT GO!!!!
The look on Jeff's face like he was about to literally kill Dan with his own bare hands is priceless
It genuinely amazes me that Jeff didn’t eject him right then and there
didnt watch this season but i dont get how he got far enough in the game to where he had to be kicked out rather than voted out it shouldve been an easy unanimous vote
Yup. Yet if its i volved with LGBTQ like what happened when vaner outed someone for being transgender jef was like no need to vote…. Idk if this is a mistake and they now learning the backlash from letting it go too far or the LGBTQ movement have more power over metoo movement
It’s so sad and scary that these people as humans can’t speak up to sexual harassment but as soon as Janet says she feels hated everyone got something to say this cast is disgusting and horrible
I never seen some of the dudes just sit there and be this afraid of speaking up or confrontation. Says a lot about them if they are fathers. It’s shocking how Janet is stepping up almost like it’s just her.
Whoever that Jamal guy is, 🙌🙌🙌. I don't watch this show, no idea how I got here, but him and the host were wonderful!
This whole episode was........uncomfortable...........Could only imagine what it must have felt like being in that episode
This season was one of the worst seasons imo and it's becasue of 5 individuals:
1. Dan (Obviously) because of his repulsive and inappropriate behavior and justifying it in the worst kind of way
2. Elizabeth, because of not only throwing Janet under the bus but for outing Kellee and fabricating a story against Dan's behavior just for her own gain in the game.
3. Missy because of the same amount of reasons as Elizabeth and enabling Dan.
4. Aaron for that sorry ass of an excuse of an apology for outing Kellee and Janet but also justifying yet enabling Dan's actions
5. Whoever ran the production crew or any member for not paying close attention to Kellee's complaints and not calling out Dan for his behavior until the last second. They basically let him continue it until someone said otherwise.
Jeff was like I nearly was going to slap Varner and I’m about ready to slap this guy
Ok. 1:45, I will say I appreciate this moment. But I absolutely hated the outcome of this episode, where Jamal went home. This episode was really about all that went down with Janet, and Kellee, and the #MeToo movement, etc. And when Aaron began to make completely ignorant claims, and then Jamal shot them down and really spoke some wise words, it really felt very substantial (and honestly, in my opinion, should have kept him in that game if it were even possible.) And I absolutely hated how at the very end, it like switched back to the game, and Jamal went home, despite everything else that went down- Jamal, innocent and an advocate (better one than Missy and Elizabeth) for the women on this show, went home, instead of DAN, who blatantly touched women (proof in actual video!!!) really just shows how gameplay related this was. And it really disgusted me that he is still in the game over Jamal or Kellee
Janet was the only good player from this season (plus Jamal, Lauren, Tommy), the rest of the season was terrible
And Karishma
saying "I have female friends" and then completely disregarding this dude who was caught for sexual assault by a literal staff member, is the equivalent to "i have black friends" when someone is being blatantly racist
Where’s the rest part 3!?
god bless jamal, he is such a wonderful man.
What season is this? I need to watch it. No idea whats going on.
malaymoua season 39 island of the idols
If Jamal or Janet won this season it would be much better. They were the real heroes of the season
I 100% agree with Jamal on this
It’s crazy how he says his industry created the ME TOO movement and sees that as a good thing
I dont remember these conversations against that blonde woman who kept chasing that man, trying to sleep where he was, etc... discrimination and inequality at its finest. Future generations will see this as we see racism now. Disgusting.
Ok but does that mean that Dan's behaviour is correct because a 'blonde' woman did something similar? Shouldn't we speak out against all behaviours that make people uncomfortable not just belittle the ones that are called out?
@@pcsmush Totally... but we dont. We only talk about the behaviour of one gender which is the exact definition of discrimination.
And yet now dan crawls under the radar while the hate is sent over to missy and Aaron. I want that man gone.
I hope Jamal is living his best life wherever he is.
This season makes me cringe so much 🥺 I felt bad for Kellee. I respect Jamal and Janet so much.
what season is this?
Jamal is a true ally. Thank you, all women appreciate you
2:39 when he admits and demonstrates the harassment, wow!
Touching someone’s shoulder is harassment?
Yes, please refer to definition of sexual harassment for further clarification on what you just witnessed
Google:
sex·u·al ha·rass·ment
behavior characterized by the making of unwelcome and inappropriate sexual remarks or physical advances in a workplace or other professional or social situation.
He made an example of himself saying “hey I’m coming through”, puts his hand on her to let her know he’s coming around her. How is letting himself be known to her sexual?
If you thought that was harassment, you would not last on survivor. If someone tells him to stop, he should for sure stop. But no need to overhype his wrongdoing, he's not being malicious or sexual in that instance.
@@user-vx1up7ty7z that's alright, no want to get harassed on national television then.
I invite you to revisit the definition of harassment, would clear up the confusion
20 years old today!! Although I prefer the earlier seasons when it was more focused on the competitions and survival skills, rather than the drama bullshit....such as the metoo crap they display here
I've never appreciated Jamal as much.
The person that you keep looking up to Janet isn’t even as hateful as you all are being I’v been on both sides of this but Missy and Elizabeth are for sure not innocent
We DO NOT have a “responsibility” to believe someone accusing someone else of a crime. That’s fucking stupid
Yes you have to. That doesn’t mean believing it 100% happened, it means believing they’re telling the truth and taking it seriously and taking it to a court of law for investigation
@@coryburns4309 thats literally what i said. you have to believe women as if it happened and then investigate. you cant accuse people of lying when theyre gettig touched when theres no evidence. and also this actually has nothing to do with being a woman so i dont know why you brought that up. it has to do with being a victim of sexual assault.
@@coryburns4309 you treat them as if their accusations are true. the only way that works is if you believe them. if you dont believe them then its never investiagted
@@coryburns4309 nope got it all wrong. You have the most responsibility to believe a accuser over something theyre accusing somebody over. When it says believe victims they once again dont mean believe victims as if theyre correct but believe it as if their accusation is serious. A lot of people dont take accusers seriously when they bring it up later rather than the moment that happened and thats a problem, its clear u didnt watch the whole tribal
@@coryburns4309 thats not what i meant u are delusional
I kinda thought Dan was gay