Waymo's driverless cars surpass 7 million miles, but are they safer than human drivers?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- Google’s sister company, Waymo, unveils new research showing a lower crash rate for its driverless vehicles compared to human drivers in San Francisco and Phoenix. Bigad Shaban reports.
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I see Waymos all over the place here in Phoenix. They don't cause any problems. Never get in a hurry and start speeding, no aggressive driving, no drunk driving, no road rage, no one asleep at the wheel. It has to be much safer than the human drivers.
No sex predators or racist assholes behind the wheel.
It's not surprising that these are safer. People just have the perception that they're dangerous because news outlets will report about every Waymo accident but won't report any normal accident.
Yea pretty much.
I would never trust the computer/tech driving the car to not bug out and do some wild shit. Theres no way this is feasible for the company except for in big cities maybe. Uber/lyft already barely profit and they dont have their own fleet of vehicles to worry about. Idk how this company makes profit unless the rides are super expensive
@@HoffyRSHumans bug out and do wild shit constantly lol
Most definitely in the future self driving cars will be safe but I think it would be too early to say that they are safer than a human driver. Humans have had 100 years of driving and there are millions and millions of vehicles on the roads so numbers would obviously be higher than the few hundred self driving cars that have been operating over the last few years. Also lax license testing is an issue too.
@@squamish4244 So do computers. Also I drive around 500 kilometers a day and I pass by thousands of vehicles and over the course of my day I only maybe see a small handful of complete dipsht drivers. A vast majority of drivers I see drive decently.
1:44 priceless footage of a cab driver looking at his potential replacement with disdain.
They need a number of back streets only for SDCs for crosstown traffic and exit to regular roads at-or near the start/end of the route.
The company said they don't operate during rain or fog, so everything shuts down because these cars (and trucks) are not moving.
Nice if u live in northern Europe or England etc etc😂
Complains about driverless cars being dangerours, meanwhile at 3:21 a black sedan pulls some shady ass move
i wanna try one so bad ! waymo has to specifically map out each area it covers, so it could literally be a decade before it's available in the entire country. i really wanna try one !
7 million miles? Do those numbers reflect the Waymo cars driving for hours, lost in their own parking lots?
0:30 why did bro back away like a gta5 NPC hahaha
Lmfao
true ahahahah
😅
Driverless cars do not take unnecessary risks
Of course they don't take unnecessary risks. They take stupid risks or mistakes that no human driver would ever make. Also, these driveless cars can't drive in rain, while human drivers can. That's not an unnecessary risk, rain is a part of human life.
I literally just watched a video titled "Driverless Waymo Cuts Off Another Driverless Waymo" Showing one Waymo move to the oncoming lane and cut off another Waymo to do a right turn.
@@abhishekgarg5286 I think you're overstating it. They don't drive in heavy rain. This is why they are pilot-testing in Phoenix and not, say, Seattle.
I stayed in Phoenix and drove Waymo two times around downtown Phoenix. It did very well.
I've never had the opportunity to take a Waymo but I'd be willing to try. It seems less likely that a driverless car would run a scam on you or possibly even rob you :)
I got a chance to ride Waymo here in San Francisco. These ride are safe and quite comfy being that it's a luxury car. It drives better than 99% of people in the bay area. I prefer this over Uber/Lyft
I'm working on a pick pocketing robot
im just going to say right now self driving cars are safer then humans and waymo if put to the test would prove that if it was the only car on the road too wish it got more recognition as tech like this would help alot of people alot of Americans are not allowed to drive which sucks but with tech like this some of us are getting a little more mobile which is good because people dont realize the problem with being unmobile and how hard it makings life
you dont get the choice if you want to walk somewhere you either can or cannot and the cannots become more and more common even if your fit because feat wear out because people dont maintain them right
Yeah but it goes way below the speed limit I understand why but it won't really fined success with many.@@PhyuckYew
@@roxaskinghearts Transit. Demand it. Pay for it. Ride it. Also, punctuation.
Uber Driver in LA. I almost got hit by the waymo vehicle. I was
going to Venice Boulevard west. I had a Passenger on the backseat he saw what happened. It was a bus on the right site I was on the second lane to the left when the waymo got between us the bus and my vehicle I tried to prevent bygetting hit.
As a driver it is possible to be convicted of manslaughter as the result of a driving fatality. The result of an "accident". When an autonomous car accidentally kills somebody and the legal system see's it as manslaughter, who is going to be held accountable? The CEO, the owner, the computer programmer, the insurance company, nobody? Who? Before autonomous vehicles get along side me on the highway I would like an answer to that question from the legal system. It isn't the ride in the car that I am afraid of, it's the DA.
Obviously billionaires CEOs and rich people just get a slap on the wrist like always....
Good point
My daughter was ran over from behind by a pickup which drifted into her even though he had 3 plus football fields to identify her on a straight road with daylight and he confessed that he did not even know it was a person he had slammed up and over his truck into the ditch, shearing her bike seat off the frame. She died within hours from horrific internal injuries. Ellen’s killer was NOT charged. He did not pay a dime. Iowa’s laws failed her. Inspite of the drivers confession he was interacting with FB messenger, while driving at 55 MPH, he walked free. My daughters death was cut short, 28 years of accomplishment, hard work and unlimited potential as a YALE chemical engineer. There was no justice, or accountability. So yes we need to know, who is responsible for injuries, property damage and deaths from any vehicle allowed on our roads. And we need to hold individuals responsible who chose to drive under the influence of a phone.
@@ajames283yes so important. Because even today in our courtrooms - for our family - Iowa Ellen Cyclist 2020- her killer received no penalty or conviction for running her over from behind while she was cycling where she was suppose to be and the driver drifted over the lines, did not even Know he had hit a person because he was using his oh8me to interact with social media to buy a boat. He had to turn around and look for what he had hit and thrown over his pickup and into the ditch. He confessed and he received no time, and paid nothing. Our laws need to insist on accountability and penalties.
currently in a waymo rn. its actually very safe lol
im no genius but if they dont drive in fog or rain and have less crashes sounds not too revolutionary
They do drive in the rain and fog there are recent videos that show that
they can drive in rain and have not even had many crashes. however, i still wouldn’t trust it lol. it’s pretty cool and stuff but my anxiety would not let me step foot in that car😂
Valet : sir, do you need your car parked?
AI : Say no more!
Waymo is way better than I thought. it was a great ride.
I had the pleasure of riding in one myself. I felt safe in the Waymo. I'll take one again in a heartbeat
That is a lot of very expensive electronics. How long before the all end up in chop shops?
7,000,000 fair-weather miles. With a total of 0 wet-weather miles. Self-driving isn't possible when it rains.
With the laser systems and factoring for slippage, “wet-weather miles” would be easy.
Human drivers hardly ever use there signals
I use my signal light every time. Even when I pull into my driveway in my backlane.
Figures seem promising, though it's important to contextualize safety statistic comparisons. "Human drivers" include humans who are novice drivers, as well as those in impaired conditions: tired, high, drunk, texting, or otherwise distracted. And, of course, aggressive driving. If you draw the line for "safer" at an equal number of accidents per mile, that is the skill level of a midly impaired average driver. These cars drive slowly and cautiously which helps a lot with reducing their crashes and fatalities, but that also means crash data doesn't factor in how often they make non-collision mistakes, freeze up, or make routing errors. 3x is an impressive benchmark, but they've only achieved it in dense metropolitan areas where light rail is already significantly cheaper, faster, and safer by healthy leads in every category, so they've still got a ways to go.
"accidents per mile" is key.
Self driving cars are disproportionately used on the highway.
The highway is statistically safer.
@@SkadooHusky That's not true. Waymo currently operating (for passenger servcie) only in SF, part of LA, and part of Phoenix, and doesn't use freeways in any of those places yet.
@@mark99k I'm talking about self driving cars in general.
Fortnine did a video on this. That channel does some of the most elaborate breakdowns of crash statics as it's a motorcycle focused channel.
But that's the main thing, even motorcycles are safer on the highway and most self driving features are used as a form of glorified cruise control.
So if the safety statics show that self driving cars aren't much more beneficial than driving on the highway and they are mostly used on the highway, why should we assume that the benefit came from the car and not the highway?
@@SkadooHusky "Glorified cruise control" is basically what Tesla offers. It's nothing like actual self-driving, and the video isn't about them, or about highway use, which, again, isn't happening yet for the cars shown.
*Statistics, not statics.
Place a traffic cone on the hood works well i hear.
I for one am excited for Waymo because those of us who are unable to drive due to medical conditions need the kind of freedom that those who can drive have.
My adhd makes me one of the most dangerous drivers on the road . But i live in a lawless country (algeria) so it's ok . But still
Call an Uber, man with medical condition.
Great invention but humans are too naive. They will find reasons to catch a lawsuit someday.
San Francisco has some of the worst drivers in the world. These cars being "3 times less likely" to be in a crash compared to San Francisco drivers means that they are still really bad.
Where else have you driven? Been to Rome? Moscow? Athens? Cairo? Lagos? I just didn't find SF drivers particularly bad. We could disagree about what "bad" even means -- people in Toronto and Montreal each think the other can't drive. :)
I don't care for the hypnotic annoying flashing lights on their vehicles. There seems to be an abundance of these "safety" lights these days. They are a nuisance to other drivers and don't really make the vehicle more visible.
Am I willing to be driven in a driverless car? No. Emphatically, no! Just you wait, this will end badly.
I would like to see the statistics versus the competition. What is the rate of accidents versus cab drivers? What are the crash statistics versus uber? I can understand against the average US driver but I think this is the wrong comparison to make.
are they safer? if they cause a crash, it's in service of profit for a company. if they are all testing right now, is that a good reason for the possibility it will cause a death?
cars with no where to go, causing accidents. cool!!!
But can it take an alternate route if the route your on has a traffic jam?
these cars dont know how to do a 4 way stop sign
Hell yeah, I go out of my way to get rides from Waymo than Uber, Lyft, or whatever human driven cars. Trust these cars 1000% which is statistically impossible, but it does emphasize my trust in it.
Can I assume you do not make your living selling stuff to people that are now out of a job?
@@Deontjie The same thing was said about robots taking over jobs but people still have jobs working alongside the robots.
What you are saying is that you still have a job.@@ibuyufo
See I'm the opposite. I only have faith in my own driving.
@@OGTH-camEnjoyer That as it may be but your and my reaction time will be far inferior to the computational power in this car. It can monitor 360 degrees while we just see a fraction of what it can see. Maybe you hate to admit the truth but we're just an accident waiting to happen. Maybe you and I will get lucky and not get into a bad accident or hit a pedestrian. The latter is my greatest fear driving. I really believe that having all autonomous cars on the road takes human errors and carelessness out of the equation.
@1:23 should say "nine times more"
Who pays the ticket or goes to jail at Waymo if there is a problem?
Any other intelligent life in NBC comment sections? There's some pretty dumb statements here.
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are they safer is a loaded question, they're probably safer than 90% of what the average human driver does and 10% humans are better (fyi I'm just making up number for sake of argument), and that makes you wonder if that is better.
What if the numbers are more like 99% and 1%?
@@_____case Again, at what point is one thing better than another?
@@Mike__B I think safety is the #1 consideration for me. I think it's possible to measure and quantify the overall safety of a driver and if one driver is safer than another driver, then the safer driver is unequivocally better within my value system.
What do *you* think "better" means in this context?
at least waymo has insurance unlike some cars
Yes, yes they are…
How soon before these Level 5 autonomous cars displace Uber/Lyft drivers, putting them out of business?
We have Waymo cabs in Phoenix now.
The laments about robotaxis taking away jobs are misguided. Think: You can't get a job as a blacksmith anymore because we don't use horses to travel. The invention of the sewing machine meant it'd take far fewer people to make clothes. And a combine harvester does the work of many farmhands. Almost any major technological innovation changes the structure of the workforce; it's a byproduct of how civilization advances. Even the taxi industry had to massively restructure after the arrival of Uber & Lyft. (It's worth noting that Uber & Lyft are the drivers that some people are ostensibly so worried about, but not long ago _they_ were the supposed evil interlopers.)
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Watch out for distracted drivers. Google Wllen, iowa, cyclist 2020
As long as its safer than a human driving I'll take it, nobody's perfect, not even robots
I would
It may still take some more time, but once completely self driving cars are the norm, it’s going to really change the world. Every person will have their own chauffeur, and cars will be a place to just relax, watch TV, eat, etc. while you get to your destination. People might take it out just for fun, sit and read a book while your car takes you around the city. And you could easily take 500 mile+ trips, just get in at night go to sleep and when you wake up in the morning you’ll be there. And maybe everyone will want a big self driving van, so they have a full size bedroom to be chauffeured around in
Everyone knows that if you give CA regulators enough money in cash, you will be authorized to do anything.
OH YOU SHUT UP, BRIAN THE TRUMPSTER FREAK!!!!!
Waymo is great.
250 wayno cars vs 400,000 cars in sf. Imagine if theres 400,000 waymo.
There is money involved so you will never hear the whole truth fom these people who benefit from driverless cars. Also IF they are better than human drivers in the future you wont be allowed to drive manual anymore. Insurance companys will ask you why you drove and refuse to pay when you have an accident.... etc. Again less freedom for the individual.
No thanks
If I see em coming I’m running away.
tesla is 10x less accidents if on autopilot
Still need a lot of AI to improve it
Safer Than Drunk Drivers,Can it drives in Rain, Snow or Construction
Waymo currently drives fine in rain but not super-heavy rain. And they'll soon be testing in Buffalo (!) to get experience in snow. I found that odd at first, but it makes sense, because that area is extremely flat, and I'd assume Waymo wouldn't want hills to complicate the effects of snow -- although I do wonder if self-driving in snow _and_ hills is even possible or contemplated.
I've already done a Waymo ride and it was perfect. It felt a little like an airplane ride at the start with its safety info at the start and the pamphlet it had up front about how to buckle up.
Wow the background of his house is so beautiful happy 2024
No they are NOT
It should be Uberized. Imagine the capacity to just Uber Waymo cars, thatd be insanely effective for transportation!
That's exactly how it works now. You just open the app and order a ride. Anyone can do it. You just need to be within the approved service area of specific cities that they currently operate in (Phoenix, LA, San Fran, etc).
Naw i have observed these cars operating in Los Angeles and to me they drive to aggressive and fast for my liking.
We've had Waymo driverless cars in Phoenix for over 10 years
10 years? You are mistaken:
"Waymo One has been expanding its capabilities incrementally since debuting in October 2022 with a service area that covered about 50 square miles in and around Chandler. The range ballooned in May 2023 to include over 180 square miles covering most of Chandler and Tempe and parts of Phoenix, Scottsdale and Mesa"
@@DerekDavis213 You are mistaken: They have been for hire/ IN SERVICE since 2022 but have been driving around long before this, I remember seeing waymo on Warner rd in 2015.
You must not live in phoenix metro and just pulled that off the internet, but nice try.
@@buttdreads So if Waymo does not accept passengers, like every taxi is *designed* *for* , you would still that Waymo is in service? That makes no sense.
@@DerekDavis213 Did you bother reading any of his posts? He never said they've been "in service" for over 10 years. He said they've been driving around for over 10 years. Whether they have a paying customer as a passenger or not, they have been driving around on Phoenix roads for over 10 years.
I would not trust that at all.
No way 🎉
no, they are not safer. ai is only as smart as the programmer and the stupid smart camera. i was almost murdered by a waymo a week ago by a driverless idiot robot while entering an uber, the waymo should have gotten a ticket. show me some actual data, not researched by google waymo. a third party research. i had to call an 800 # to report my close call with death. i hate waymo.
Why is the United States so behind from Asia? Hong Kong Airport already using driverless bus in the airport.
In the USA we also have driverless trains , buses, and cars in airports and other areas but those are not public roads
Bus😂shuttle in a controlled environment
since when is this fuckin legal in the first place ?
Buddy it's 2024 I thought it's been long established now that the law is dead and we live in some bizarro world where everything is bs.
Since we entered the 21st century, welcome to the modern world geezer
For almost two decades now in certain cities where these are approved to operate by the government.
@@travellingslim Wow, I'm glad we don't have this in Canada.
@@murdechoc Are ... are you *sure* about that? I think there's a food transportation company run by some Waterloo grads that does driverless cargo stuff. It's a pretty smart system, always chooses 3 rights instead of an unprotected left, for instance. If they're doing their job right, you'll never know. MTO knows for sure; it was heavily checked out before permits were given.
The car stops and the door stays locked and malfunctions what do you do? Is there a hammer to bash out the window in the vehicle?
Good luck with those hackers in the future. Ill stick with the driver
Distracted driving can and does kill. People should and can make good choices - but can a driverless car make intricate choices in good and bad weather on all surface types? MomofEllen4ever28 killed in Iowa while. Y ling by a driver on his phone.
These cars cannot hear police, ambulance, and fire truck sirens. That’s why they fail to yield and instead block their path
Metro self driving buses be more affordable for low income folks. The bus fair is cheaper than a ride of that vehicle.
This is the future, sure they’re will be little bumps here and there. But in the end we’ll be better off without humans behind the wheel.
Take us to China
Miles, really
Imagine you're driving a car. There's a cyclist weaving on one side of you, and a kid about to step off the curb on the other side. An oncoming car is drifting into your lane, an angry idiot is tailgating you, and a city bus is approaching from a cross-street. How do you watch -- and react to -- all 5 of those hazards with the attention they merit? A human can't possibly.
Uber Drivers are stoned .... and everybody else is Texting.
Im cool with the future... and Robot Cars....
@@user-go8vi5lb6u That Make No Sense ..You may want to go to an AA meeting
@@user-go8vi5lb6u its Cool ~ the Future is Coming ... you don't need to Come along with us .... U can stay in the Past ~ like Don OLD RUMP...
A driverless cars will be a death trap in the future. Imagine how easy it will be for criminals to stop one of these and rob the occupants?
That's true. Just holding up a fake stop sign would make a driverless car stop. Put some traffic cones around so the car can go nowhere. And then we can rob the occupants at our leisure.
AI will always be dumb. Good times ahead to sucker punch those who trust AI.
Imagine when they start getting hacked and driving people into traffic and such.
Rebuilding trust? Who's trust?... Next thing you know, we will be stopped for walking and have to show ID for just leaving our home 👀🤦
Characterization!?
Wait, if there are 200+ vehicles, why does it take me 29 minutes to get a car?
maybe because the demand is much higher than the 200+ vehicles so you would need to wait until there's a freed up car
0:10 why does she say Fema?
It’s the same argument for women being better drivers than men. Insurance companies say women drivers are safer but how many times do men drive compared to women and how many more miles are driven by male drivers compared to female drivers to allow insurance companies to charge men more?
Oh brother. Didn't we learn a lesson on this nonsense?
lol who is the human driver drive 7 millions miles professor ?
Are you thinking there is a single person to whom we must compare the autonomous system? 7 trillion miles was a distance driven by all human drivers, not one human driver. :)
@@TaiViinikka then what is the accident rate of 7 millions miles by human ?
Humans can't pay attention AI is way more safe
Not true, put 250K of these on SF streets and we'll see who's better at driving.
You can't pay attention but I certainly have no issues driving 500kms a day paying attention.
@@raygordon3728 That would be over 5,000 cars per square mile, so nobody would be moving at all.
I've taken over 140 Waymo rides without incident and found them much safer than Uber & Lyft.
@@mark99k When are you moving to Austin?
@@raygordon3728 Never, why?
😍Wow, sick of migrant, automation is option
Have you drive. One? I heard from a tester it is difficult to obtain control
Happy 🏴🎊🏳️
What about the hit and runs Wayne doesn’t report 😂
Waymo says something positive about Waymo. Yeah...let's believe all of what they say.
And if everyone had a driverless car traffic would be soooo slow
Fck no. This the type of sht I have nightmares about.
You should get out of your bubble
The car stops on the wrong side of a busy freeway what do you do? Your late for an appointment. What do you do?
You getting your jetpack and fly to work
if cruise dragged a woman 20 feet i'll never trust these autonomous vehicles.. I know any human being would immediately stop rather than keep driving 20 feet
That was Cruise, not Waymo. If you think no person has ever dragged a pedestrian or cyclist they just hit, I envy your fresh untainted view of life. :|
If the driver is not driving and on their phone so they see them ! The driver that killed our daughter did not even know he had hit a human. Gooogle iowa, cyclist, Ellen 2020
Am I willing? No, never.
2:03 Ok, so Waymo is correcting the data. To make it look better then human drivers. Got it.
So basicly they are lieing.
This. Is. Not. Good
horrible idea
No way.
yooo, elon do you see this shit??
Yes he does. Which is why V12 is making such huge progress.
@@thewatcher5822 v12.3.4 is the very latest version. Lots of TH-cam reviews. It is still a simple minded Level 2 assistant that needs 100 percent human supervision. FSD is a joke.
This will go on until one of these is hitting a pedestrian or worse, hitting a child. Also ASK if these are slowing down for kids playing on the side of the road.
Here's the thing these things are driving like 20mph in areas where kids would be playing on the side of the road (not that happens too much in San Francisco), where as the average human is probably zoomin 30mph or more... and is also not slowing down if there are kids, hell they probably don't even notice kids.
That's why they use lidar
@@WildlifeWarrior-cr1kk You think lidar is intelligent?
@@mrtopcat2no
@@WildlifeWarrior-cr1kk Then why bring it up? What difference does lidar make, if it can't distinguish reliably moving adults, from impulsive playing children? Also ask yourself if that was your child, that was injured, if you would not sue the car company for everything they have.
Waymo on the highway in prime time traffic @ 75mph in the 2nd leading accident state?? Lets go lab rats 😂
You will get cancer faster if you are around these cars.
You do know, exhaust fumes are carcinogenic? and have been linked with cancer, smaller brain development, Alzheimers, heart disease. the list is endless.
Suppose the Waymo car suddenly stops... who do you talk to??????????? NOBODY...
Um you do know every ride is monitored. So if it stops support will call the car right away
Call the car or the person in the car???@@pennytrui1149
You have to puke what do you do? Contact who to pull the car over? @@pennytrui1149
@@alexdmarcon There are people watching you 24/7 in the car. There is a button to call support from the car and a human will talk to you
@@alexdmarconThe car isn't stupid there's a pull over button. You act like once you start the ride you can't end it and you're stuck in it until someone breaks you out lmao. You can end the ride anytime press the pull over button and the car will immediately search for a save spot and end the ride.