Speeding is dangerous in the US because of the lack of driver's discipline, which I've mentioned several times in my videos. The Autobahns in Germany have LESS deaths per mile/km even with unrestricted speeds on many parts of the autobahns. We don't need speed limiters, we need better driver discipline
I don't know how I can get this comment higher up, but if I comment on your comment and like your comment, maybe more people will see your comment, because it's a really important thing to point out.
also better built roads with fewer inconsistencies. helps allot. and a culture of attention while driving. porsche was confused when people wanted cup holders.
Germany can install better driving discipline due to availability of alternatives to driving: pedestrian spaces, bicycle lanes, and mass transit, with Inter City Express (ICE) trains the most prominent. Try to do that in USA: • "You are taking away my freedom!" • "How can I get to work?" • "Why take away my ability to travel." In summary, USA is very automobile dependent; in order to practically travel anywhere, a car is needed. The car is the symbol of freedom because when it is removed, Americans are "trapped"; there is simply no other option.
The only times I nearly crashed, were, when I was stuck behind a slow driver and not paying attention, when I'm breaking the speed limit, even by a few miles, I'm usually a lot more engaged in actually driving
In Germany, if the authorities notice a significant number of accidents on a certain portion of roadway, they call in an engineer to fix the problem. They redesign the curve, they re-grade the road, whatever it takes. In the US, if the authorities notice a significant number of accidents on a certain portion of roadway, they start issuing lots of traffic tickets on that portion of the road, and it becomes a steady source of revenue for the city.
Sometimes they'll install a safety barrier of some kind, but they have a certain amount of money where they just call it and say it's not worth saving a life.
Calling the Autobahn a stretch of road is just wrong my friend. It's our equivalent to the US interstate system. Funny thing is even without speed limit, our highways are safer vs the ones in neighboring countries.
@@elijahdryden1564 Jup but you forget that the Autobahn is a more dense network. Germany is only 1/30 of the size of the US our Autobahn network is however only approx. 1/6 of the US interstate system. So it's definitely not a "Stretch of roads" ;)
@@edipires15 True while the autobahn is safer than highways in spain or norway. Generally speaking the Autobahn is relatively safe vs other European countries. Plus germany is the main hub from any transport from east europe to the western part.
The "Autobahn" isn't just "a stretch of road". It's a huge network of roads going all over Germany. You'll drive on the Autobahn pretty much every time you travel between cities. Also, many parts of it do have speedlimits (sometimes also electronically regulated depending on traffic and conditions). But most of it indeed doesn't have a speedlimit. And also, I'd hope and am pretty sure that every car's speedometer shows a much higher maximum speed than what the car is actually capable of (unless it's modded of course). After all, you really don't want to hit the max and suddenly be unable to know whether you're getting faster or slower or how fast you're actually driving.
Before even watching, I'm going to hope the answer is: Gearing and Fuel Efficiency. That's why Overdrive Gears exist. We don't actually expect people to hit Max Speed on Commutes, but as long as cars are "geared to go fast" they can then just sit in a Higher gear while going slower which gets Better MPG. That's all there is to it. It was a Science/Engineering Reason.
@@-Fumiken- Yes there is final answer but they dont want to upset ppl by saying that "it's not worth it to save some lives by wasting that much money on new tech that slows down cars" simple as that.
Short answer: 1. Car top speeds are determined by their highest gear. 2. A car is most efficient on its highest gear at the lowest rpm. 3. Cars still need the rpm range to rev up and shift gears. 4. Therefore, for cars to be efficient, car companies can't limit gears. And for cars to be able to achieve a wide range of speeds, they can't limit rpm. 5. Well what about electronic limiters? Yeah, you can limit them then. But who's gonna pay more for less ability? Not the government and definitely not a consumer.
1. Not always by it's highest gear. In plenty of cars the highest gear is an overdrive gear and top speed is only reached in a lower gear. 2. Each engine runs most efficient under a certain load at a certain rpm. The job of a transmission is it to keep it in this range as much as possible under normal conditions. 3. They don't need the full range, but you get more power at higher RPM. 5. Germans do it this way: They limit the cars and make it an option to remove or increase the limiter. My car has a limiter at officially 155mph but in reality more like 162mph. The option for the limiter to be moved to 175mph is 1500€
really? when I drive in a high gear and I brake that the RPM drop below 1000, the motor doesn't have enough power to hold that speed and thus my car will come to a hold.
A car's top speed isn't always achieved in its highest gear. Also many more powerful cars do have their top speed electronically limited, and that isn't kept a secret, its usually in the general info pack. On some models you can pay extra to have that speed limiter removed. So its who's going to pay more for more?
I would chose an electric car with a speed limiter over other cars without them. I tend to drive way too fast to stay in the flow of others on the road and I am constantly slowing back down. If there was a physical limiter, I could just set the speed I want to go and push the peddle to the floor. Oh and cruse controls are nice, but no limiter.
Tailgating at 70 mph it is far more dangerous than going at 100 mph on a open road. Speed, in the abstract, it's just an easy value to instill fear and monetize tickets.
Depends on the type of road. On a controlled-access highway in good weather conditions, maybe. On a country road with lots of bends and side junctions, Probably not. Are you gonna have enough time to react, break and stop at 100 if some vehicle does a poor emerge?
@@LRC92 The enforced limit on roads like that is 65-70, which is massively too fast for the places those features exist, but too low in between. Limit enforcement gets treated as a minimum speed, making those places more dangerous.
If it isn't other cars, it can be animals. It really not about how useless speeding is, it's about how often people do it in dangerous context. That is obviously too much currently.
Most modern cars already have speed limiters/governors in place; granted, they're usually there to keep the tires or the driveline below their failure points, but they're there nonetheless.
@@contradictorycrow4327 you can't use the same rhetoric as a good guy with a gun here, it's just nonsense. Engaging in a high speed "escape" is dangerous for yourself and everyother driver on that road
I can't believe no one mentioned this, but there are also hills and mountains you drive up and down on. Engines need to be capable of giving you the power to traverse them. And then also you don't want that to be maxing out your engine when you do go on those trips. That leaves you a lot of extra power to work with in more flat terrains.
@@oichilli7309 the water over here in Germany isnt salty at all, I definitely like drinking my couple litres of water ... oh sorry i mean gallons or barrels, choose whatever you like
Yeah, every german knows, german car manufacturers started, producing cars that can go faster then the speedlimit in other countries and soon Tourism skyrocketed in Germany. Other car manufacturers followed to compete in the german car market
If a car can reach 200mph, it can also stop from 60 faster than a car that can only go 120mph. If car manufacturers didn't make cars faster or try to improve driveline components, we'd still have cars that stop from 60mph in over 200ft. Many cars now have that down to just about 100ft, which is a great improvement over cars from the 70's, 80's, and even 90's to an extent.
@@jackradzelovage6961 Lowering speed limits INCREASE accidents. Like Clarkson said, it’s suddenly coming to a stop that kills you. If people paid attention and had logic, we could have much higher speed limits. Most modern sedans can cruise at 100 mph comfortably.
That’s actually how I failed my drivers test, I was a bit nervous and highly concentrated on the highway and larger roads, and when I got on to a small road with a considerable lower speed limit I relaxed and ended up missing a low visibility crossing, (I live in Sweden and some of our old roads are super small with horrible visibility, you pretty much have to come to a complete stop in every intersection to check for cyclists or people walking
The improvement in stop times over the decades is more because of better tires than anything else. Also not true about braking times from 60, braking is mostly limited by the tires and a better car would have maybe 20% better brakes at best on the same tires.
I once had to outrun a tornado on the interstate in texas. Both the cop next to me and I were going 130+ - it was heading right toward us and we were able to cut in front of it. If the car had a speed regulator I’d be dead.
@@WayneAllen-vx1vn Tornado comes out of nowhere in the south. I'm guessing you've never seen one coming toward you - you wouldn't be going 65 to get away from it, if you did, it would be Darwin doing his thing
I drove school buses when the maximum speed was 35 mph. This was enforced by a speed governor. I found it really nice after I had dropped off my last student in the afternoon. I had a long ride back through the forested countryside to return to the school. It was beautiful scenery. With all the big windows and a quiet bus it was so pleasant of a drive. I also got paid by the hour, so holding me at 35 mph was no complaint from me.
our bus were forced 85kmh well some of them, and a couple times on a dirt road our bus driver would be going over 100kmh, then she just retired after 40years of doing it, and she was the king of the road i guess like it was scary sometimes, but nothing ever happened, and when i say i think it was 85kmh it looked like it.
@@bobbyknight3589 are driver ended up doing some crazy stuff never crashed but drifting when it lost traction a couple times it hydroplaned the front end was going opposite of the wheels, sometimes the rear end with swing out dangerious over the edge of the road, then again it was in the middle of a field so their not that many things to crash into.
Here's a common misconception: speed is dangerous and speed is the main cause of accidents. That's simply wrong. See how all these reports say "speed related accidents" or "accidents involving speeding"? These terms include virtually all crashes since in North America, it's an unwritten rule to drive a certain amount over the speed limit. Speed is a multiplier of deadliness of a crash, when a crash does happen, but it's almost never the cause of accidents. If you want to make cars safer, focus on driver assistance technology, i.e. driver alertness monitoring, lane keeping, automatic emergency braking, forward crash prevention. Drivers are increasingly distracted when driving and make bad decisions. Speed limits are static, road conditions are very dynamic. Limiting a car to 60 mph does nothing to prevent a deadly crash when a driver goes 60, the speed limit, when the visibility is shorter than the stopping distance from 60 mph. The most dangerous thing about a typical car on the road is its driver.
Driver assist and Lane assist is usually worse if the driver knows it's there they think it's a safety blanket that makes them the perfect driver. Remove that crap from the car and replace it with a driver that passed actually driving tests and courses. Don't make a car to do the drivers job you will just engineer smarter idiots.
Exactly, you can limit cars to 80MPH but that won't stop people from doing 80 in a school zone(15mph in the US I guess ?). Inappropriate speed is dangerous, not the speed itself.
Total bull. If you were talking about how deadly speed is on a closed course I'd agree with you, but that's not real world driving and doesn't apply to how speed affects highway fatalities.
probably the american "stay in lane" vs. German "drive as far outside as possible" or higher standards in terms of car safety. I mean in Germany, cars are legally required to go to a check-up every two years.
Trucks, Trailers and Vans are not driving unrestricted in Germany (regulated to either 55 or 62mph) when you look at High Speed Fatality vehicle types in the USA - the most likely you die - is in a Pickup. I think here is the issue, it's not the speed limit, it's the type of vehicle. You could probably get away with higher speed limits when you would limit it to the cars which actually can drive the speed safely. There are not almost not Pickups on German Autobahn.
German here, I went to the Hanover airport yesterday by driving the A2. It was early so I could set the cruise control to 130mph and do 200 miles in 2 hours.
Fellow non-American here. I’ve been to America, and from what I can tell, their problem is not speed, but discipline and skill; many of them drive like someone out of Mad Max: Fury Road, and unsurprisingly that gets such fools as just another integer in a statistic of vehicular casualties. That’s their problem; they’re horrid drivers. Whereas on the autobahn, everyone knows the importance of safe driving, and there’s nothing to rebel against, so it functions fine. What I mean by that is, with some people, their minds are hardwired to think that whatever logical thing someone more knowledgeable than them says on a matter, they mustn’t do that. So they see speed limits, and think “no, I’ll not drive at a safe speed, because that sign said to drive at a safe speed.” Which is very unwise and backwards, but that’s how they think, it seems. When there’s no speed limits to tell one what speed to drive at, one then tends to default to the classic human instinct of “monkey see monkey do”, following the speed of the other drivers present; when everyone speeds, nobody does, essentially.
Couple of inaccuracies right off the bat: the SSC Tuatara’s speed attempt has since been debunked and just because a speedometer indicates a certain speed is far from indicative of a given vehicle’s top speed.
@Narja From the point of view of fundamental physics, they're correct. The dangerous bit is when you hit an obstacle and are forced to slow down from 65mph to zero within about a foot or two, which is the same acceleration as from zero to that speed within that distance, just with the acceleration being applied opposite to the travel direction. That's remarkably likely to kill you. Similarly, if you were to hit a pedestrian, travelling at 65mph obviously causes no harm to a person, but getting accelerated from 0 to 65 within barely any space or time at all very much will. Obviously the acceleration of the car under its own power is not a hazard, it's the external circumstances that cause unforeseen acceleration that are, which makes it extremely ill advised to drive too fast for the kind of road and environment that you're in, so semantically you're correct as well.
I think another good point would also be that on a lot of US highways slow cars clog up the left lane (fast lane) instead of getting over to the right lane (slow lane) this can cause accidents because people going to speed limit or over it have to watch out for people who are going 10 under the speed limit causing people to weave in and out of traffic
No, it's usually people going 5 miles over the speed limit slowing down people trying to go 10-20 miles over the speed limit. Or it's that the road is near its capacity and people just don't like that traffic slows everyone down.
@@cadekachelmeier7251 5 mph above the speed limit on the passing lane is still lower than the standards. Now what about these drivers just move over to right lanes when someone is speeding behind them?
@@cadekachelmeier7251 Cade is right, it’s people traveling slightly faster in order to pass slower vehicles (such as trucks) that makes the speeders 20mph+ over the limit have to slow down to only 5ish over. In other words, it’s people using the passing lane as a passing lane that cause the law breakers, the speeders, to get road rage.
Another major reason why they don't want to limit the speed of cars in the US that you may have touched on is that speeding tickets account for a very large percentage of revenue for the police departments and states.
Pretty common, especially in cities due to flow of traffic being more important than the speed limit. Still not wise to speed around a cop though, never know whos got a stick up their butt of a quota that day
@@goldenhate6649 There's a big difference between city cops and troopers. I would say near universally state troopers are going to leave you alone as long as you're under 15 over the speed limit. Unless you're in an area where speeding is uncommon (they actually do have quotas). If you get pulled, you're not getting a warning though (at least in NC). City cops are very much likely to get you doing even just 5 over (sometimes even less, but you can easily plead that down to faulty equipment). But they are also likely to be the most lenient in some jurisdictions too. Sheriff deputies.. you have to be really moving to get their attention or if they are bored. If you're going too fast they probably won't even bother. They are also most likely to give a warning depending on the elected sheriff. Very low crime areas means boredom. Something to keep in mind.
Next you should do a video exploring why the US has been reluctant to improve driver training. Most people know little to nothing about traction, car control, braking, and driving techniques taught in performance driving schools throughout the country. My friend in Florida got his drivers license in a parking lot, and people wonder why car insurance rates are so high there. Meanwhile finland is steady producing road racing champions having far better road safety per capita.
I'd point the worst drivers also tend to come from warm weather states as the provisional license rules doesn't teach a learning driver "This is a bad time to drive or to learn about traction and car control". High quality racing drivers disproportionately also seem to come from Illinois, Wisconsin, Indiana, Ohio, Michigan, etc when compared to Florida or Texas due to a combo of proximity to Indianapolis and the weather to develop various techniques.
I got my license at 17 after practicing for an hour. I took the test in a car I had never seen before. I've never been in an accident. Training isn't the issue. There needs to be an IQ test, not a driving test.
What you failed to remember here, is that people who design and engineer these machines are indeed automotive enthusiast. Which means they like fast cars, no one who likes cars dislikes a fast car.
@@FullmoonEffects89People who buy historically "rugged" tanks and restore/fix them up are very protective of them even getting a scratch. Idk if it's entirely relevant but it's ironic and funny as guck
Here in Germany it really isn’t uncommon to have people driving at 200+ km/h. And to be honest, for me and many others it would be unthinkable to have cars that can’t go past a certain, much lower speed. And trust me, it’s fun to drive that fast!
130km/h (81mph) is recommended, but most people are going around 150 (93mph). Some people are mostly going 180-190 (112-118 mph) and very few people abow 200 (124 mph) upto 240-260km/h (149-162 mph)
I'm a huge car guy. I love fast cars. But it's something that needs to be respected. And used responsibly. If car companies decide to limit me, I'll just modify the car. There's easy ways around the speed limiters.
Exactly. Just because I car can hit 150 doesn’t mean everyone is gonna be flooring it everywhere. I hate how they try to control everything “for our safety”
@@Nexalian_Gamerit is safer to go slower believe it or not, maybe you're responsible but not everyone is, and entrusting everyone to be safe in multi ton hunks of metal isn't reliable. The gaurenteed alternative is limiters.
The thing is that they’d probably make it a requirement to have a functioning speed limiter to be able to register your vehicle or renew it. I’m sure there’d still be ways around it but yeah.
Few problems with this video... Speed limiters are pretty much standard across the board on most US vehicles. But, its there because of the tires and/or driveshafts. The cheapie tires manufacturers throw on are only rated for so fast and allowing the consumer to exceed their speed rating could result in a blow out and a lawsuit. Driveshafts due to their length also become unbalanced at higher speeds and can rip themselves apart, again resulting in an accident and/or lawsuit. A tuning device will remove that speed limiter or set it to whatever speed you want as well, it's not difficult or insanely expensive to remove or change and lots of people do it. Secondly, know you're audience. The majority of people who are buying high horsepower "Sport cars" aren't buying them to get groceries and go to work. Some do and that's a given, however there's drag strips, race tracks, etc all open to the public that lots of people who buy these cars are using. Manufacturers would shoot themselves in the foot neutering every single one of their vehicles to highway speeds and would prevent the people who own them from using them to their full potential where it is legal and safe (well that's relative) to do so. Thirdly most FATAL car accidents in the US happen at 40MPH or less... so the speed argument is moot. Speed doesn't kill. Drivers who can't focus on the road, have a lack of understanding of what they are driving, no lane discipline, etc are the ones who are the biggest danger to everyone else and indirectly are the cause of a lot of accidents IMO.
I don't have metrics but from my personal expirence I see way more accidents on/off ramps, lane mergers, intersections and in urban areas then on highways or back roads, I honestly feel safer on the highway and feel that there's overall less to worry about as long as your paying attention, my only gripe is at least in the US a lot of our roadsigns for exits feel like they are way too close to said exit so it's a pain sometimes if you have say exit 15 A, B, C and D all within like 200 feet of road, granted that's kind of just the nature of how exits and highways work
You wanna know what could safe even more lives than a speed limit like you have in the US? I'll tell you, some actual driver tests and driving schools like we have here in Germany. Here you have to pass a theory test first (and to even be able to take the test you need to have at least 12 theory hours in a licensed driving school first!) and then you also have to pass a driving test (for which you also need to take at least 12 hours with a licensed driving school teacher). Another thing to mention is our TÜV system. If you want to drive your car on the road in Germany you need to have a sticker from the TÜV. This sticker needs to be renewed every 2 years and they check for everything you can imagine and if your car isnt roadsafe anymore, well tough luck then, have fun riding the bus. Those are some of the most notible reasons, why the US has 10.96 traffic fatalitys/ 100,000 persons and Germany has only 4.1 traffic fatalitys/ 100,000 persons. Also quick mention for those who dont know much about the Autobahn: You do have a lot of parts with speed limits and the parts without speed limits are the parts of the autobahn that have significantly less (fatal) accidents then those with speed limits. Most parts without speed limits even have less (fatal) accidents then their counterpart with speed limits. breaking down why this is the case would take to long for just a TH-cam comment but to sum it up: those parts often have very good visibility (meaning clearly visible roads, so no sharp curves etc.), are well maintained and dont suffer from a lot of weather influences that can cause accidents (i.e. fog banks, ice, etc.).
This would definitely be a great help here. But the reason this hasn't been seriously considered before and isn't in place today is because of our horrible car-centric infrastructure. In most cities in the US, there is little to no public transport. And if there is, it's probably not worth using since your trip time would be ridiculously higher than if you just drove. And even if the cities have good public transport, that almost never extends to the surrounding suburbs, like where I live. If I lived in my city then I'd almost never have to drive, but since I'm stuck in the suburbs that's the only thing I can do. Either take a 15 minute drive or a 1 hour and 25 minute bus ride. This is exactly the choice that many of us make here in the US and the better of the two is plain as day. So until people actually have alternatives to driving, it's unfortunately not realistic for the government to be as strict with drivers as they should be. Taking away someone's license in Germany is an inconvenience and a lost privilege. Taking away someone's license in the US is taking away everything. They can't go to the store, they can't go to work, and they have no reasonable alternatives. And no, Uber is not a reasonable alternative to public transport. Even with this being the case, I still think we should make our drivers education programs much better. Where I live, they're spitting out drivers that have no idea how to use our interstate system or which Lanes they should drive in or how to overtake or why they should follow the speed limit...I could go on. But I know we're a long way from seeing it. So in the mean time our civil engineers are toiling away at making insane traffic control devices that are as stupid proof as possible and creating larger and larger roads to support our ever growing fleet of cars.
In my (limited) experience the sections with speed limits are close to urban areas, so they have a lot more traffic and slip roads leading onto the Autobahn, creating extra hazards. Where you have more traffic by definition you will get more accidents. Here in the UK we also limit the speed on busier sections of motorway. Unfortunately because we don't build enough roadspace to cope with the traffic, these speed limited sections are growing rapidly!
The problem is, American cities have been designed to be so car dependent, if you're unable to pass the driving test, you'd be quite screwed if you ever want to go anywhere.
We have the same here. You have to take a course, pass a test, and spend a certain amount of hours driving with an instructor to get a learner's permit. Then it is more of the same to get the licence. It has done nothing for us. Recalculate those figures as accidents per 100,000 km driven and the story will change.
@Zaydan Naufal Might be TÜV as well but a different department. The TÜV does a lot of different things. They also certify FFP2 (European equivalent of KN95) masks as well for example. As far as I know they are active in all parts of the world so certifying pump stations in Indonesia might be amongst the things they do. Also there are different TÜVs here in Germany as well, we have TÜV Rheinland, TÜV Nord, TÜV Süd, etc.
I got a speeding ticket for going 80~85 on a bright clear day in the left most lane at or within 10 miles if the cars around me. Best to say I was mad as hell. I was cruising safely and ticketed when the speed limit was 65 but I gaurantee the car in front of me was doing 80. Wish limits were 75~80 in highways. Just makes sense to me. If u want to go slow move right and vice versa . . . . .
The proper driving ethic should be to always drive through the right most lane and only use the other lanes to pass the vehicles in front of you. I don’t blame you for doing 85, I do over 90 all the time, but hogging the left lane is way more dangerous and impractical than speeding.
That's an issue with you and your police officer. It was probably near the end of the month and needed a few more tickets to make quota. Just slow down when you see them.
You were going 15 to 20 miles faster than the speed limit. Why are you blaming the other drivers you’re the one who chose to speed and not just five or 10 miles over the limit !
BTW, governor limited vehicles have a very specific reason for this that's not directly about just limiting vehicle speed. Tires are speed rated. Depending on how they're made and what they're made to do, they can only be spun so quickly without losing stability or failing, altogether. The manufacturer limits the vehicle speed based on the rating of the tires they put on it at the factory. Most of those tires are rated to 118MPH.
not enough people know about this, because not enough people know how quickly and catastrophic going past a tire's rated speed is. my tires are safe up to 113 mph, so my car is limited to 112, because if i went 114 then all 4 tires would spontaneously uninstall themselves.
Very interesting. I drive a Mustang with plenty of power and always laugh when people in little Kia‘s and similar fly by me like I’m barely moving. I try not to drive more than 10 mph over the speed limit, but it’s difficult because can be dangerous not to mostly go with the flow of traffic. As someone else commented, part of the issue is likely the 41 million tickets you mentioned. Significant revenue for municipalities.
I drive a mustang as well. I drove a different car before and i think people do it on purpose. They are just jealous ig 😅 I get tailgated and passed unnecessaliy almost more often now. I dont even drive slow i usually would average probably 5 over if not a little more
@@doggofv to be fair, it depends on where you live as to what “slow” is. Where I live, the average for people is about 10-15 over and the minimum is 5 over. Personally, I go with the flow of traffic (as long as it’s not something crazy like 25 over) and maintain good distance between the car in front of me. I’ve found that this mitigates most of the frustration people have with slower drivers.
Same haha. People always try to race me but I drive like a grandpa most days. But every once in a while I’ll drop a gear to keep their egos in check. :)
I've noticed this happens a lot, where a car is going a certain speed (let's say 50 MPH) and another car (let's say going 60 MPH) will pass them and then the 50 mph car will speed up to keep pace. It's quite annoying
Beware of small towns in Colorado. They are extremely notorious for keeping patrols on 24/7 to pull over anyone going any speed over the limit. Passing through to the next state over, I got pulled over for doing ONE mph over the limit. Ticket? You bet. Not a very fun day for me.
Because there are stretches of roads with barriers where cops cannot hide, and roads in the middle of nowhere where cops don't bother going and you can do whatever the hell you want without reprecussions. Speeding itself isn't dangerous, just look at Germany's Autobahn. It is one of the safest roads. It doesn't matter how fast you go if people suck are driving. You can be standing still, and have some drunk driver hit you and kill you, and you are going zero miles per hour. Speeding kills is merely a scapegoat for politicians to push the blame for their crappy roads and bad driver training. I've done 120mph on an empty midnight road where the limit is 55, where I am sure that there cannot be any cops. It was perfectly safe to do, nobody could have gotten hurt. A bigger factor is the state of the cars. Most people don't know how to maintain them, and so, those cars become dangerous at speed. However, if properly maintained with a well educated driver on a good road, any modern car can easily hold at least 100mph on the highway with less accidents than with whatever system we have now.
I've done around 120 on a freeway with another guy just cruising along at midnight before. It's safe when you know how to drive and the road is well maintained. That being said, I don't drive the average car, I have ceramic brake pads, good suspension, and a V8. I have a decent buffer zone. Everything you said is true. A car's maintenance is pertinent to a driver being able to speed safely.
@@kubistonek Your dash cam can positively identify the driver? It must be some pretty cutting edge tech to have that kind of clarity at such a great distance, even through glass that could have a glare. Get real, pull your head out of your ass, taking pictures doesn't do shit unless it's of a person.
True, pretty much everyone knows the number on the speedo means nothing. See the demero video on meter made cars it has an off-the-shelf Speedo that goes to 140 or something redic.
3:03 Because certain places the speed limited is out dated. Most people WILL drive 5 - 10 over knowing that you probably won't get a ticket until you are 15 over. Then driving over the speed limit is more noticeable since everyone is going 5-10 over and you going 15 and sticking out like a sore thumb. Ever try to drive 25 mph locally? Most people go 30 which seems to be the sweet spot. But they don't want to post it at 30 cause they know people will go 35 -40. So the government plays with numbers too knowing that people will most likely never go the speed limit. So in general the current speed limit is right where it needs to be. Government knows that people will go over so they can give you a ticket and generate revenue. They ticket the most obvious speeders. The more noticeable you are weaving in and out of traffic or going way faster than everyone else that is also speeding the more likely you will get a ticket.
When I started driving in the 80's, the interstate speed limit for all 50 states was 55 mph. They also used to have speedometers which stopped at 85 mph, so beyond that you'd have no idea how fast you were going. They also had 4 cyclinder cars with probably 80 hp, and top speeds of around 75 mph. Things have changed a LOT in 35 years.
My 87 Hyundai's speedo stops at 115 MPH - I surpassed it (took a LONG time, tailwind and going down a hill) - this car only had 74 HP (when new, it was over 20 years old at the time) Shit gearing in 3 speed automatics is more to blame than Iron Duke engines.
Yeah ain’t it crazy that most speed limits are still only 55 mph 40 years later cars have gotten faster, more efficient, and safer. And yet the speed limits haven’t changed
Where the hell are they 55? I've been driving from Toronto to NYC 15 years ago and the limit was IIRC 65, 70 at times. On the wya to Chicago, 10 years ago for my 30th, I was doing 70 Mph at times, 65 most of the way. Arizona, 20+ years ago I recall my old man doing 75.
I don't understand why speed limit on highways is lower than in Europe. Like people make 85mph a big deal in the US but it's normal throughout Europe. ( 85mph is 136kmh and most of Europe has 130kmh max speed limit, some even 140kmh ). I have no clue why cause most of the US is pretty flat and in Central plains less populated than East Coast.
While i understand speed limits and i agree with Most of them in certain areas, I would argue that putting lower speed limits on roads that were developed for higher speeds also removes a certain amount of mental stimulation for the drivers making them more likely to get distracted or spaced out. When i pull into a neighborhood i subconsciously drive slower, it just feels normal but when i'm on a highway with a 45mph speed limit that is just as big as highways with 65mph speed limits i find myself either glancing at my speedometer significantly more or setting my cruise control and trying to convince my brain that it still needs to focus even though it feels like we're barely moving.
Honestly I dont see why 65 is the speed on highways when on average the speeds I have to drive on my commute to match other cars is 80, 15 over on average, it makes the driver not care about the speed limit as it seems unimportant since nobody else follows them. Like what you said speed should be determined by road design, not just a number posted.
@@James-gd3spOn Suburban city highways like I294, I465 average speed is usually 70-90mph while on rural interstates in indiana and illinois average speed is usually 80-95 mph on 70 zones, When. I was in germany it had an auto speed limit on city highways, like frankfurt city highway speed limit was 120 kmh or 75 mph, in chicago or indianapolis that’ll be 55 mph lmao.
The fastest I've gone was 250km/h with no cars around on a smooth highway. This was during the initial COVID phase where barely anyone was driving. Even the performance of econoboxes are far above legal limits these days.
@@tdgchan 250kmph is an instant loss of license, and definitley a dangerous driving charge at the least, the driver could face prison time if caught at that speed.
@@samcharles1166 not where I live. At worst you'll get a hefty ticket. Where I live there is no limit at which point speeding becomes a felony. It's only when it's combined with other traffic offenses. So I could go almost 300kmh down a country road, get pulled over, get a ticket, and be on my way.
i klicked on this video just to find this comment, since I knew some german had to schreib it. Und wenn du es nicht getan hättest, würd ichs jetzt schreiben
Speed isn’t an issue in of itself It’s a whole set of factors that come into play including awareness, position , anticipation etc … Just go to any supermarket on a busy Friday afternoons d observe how people with shopping trolleys struggle to interact or how two people in the same isle in opposite directions causes total confusion … See this and you will understand it’s not always the speed but the basic ability to move around in an ever changing environment that many people just can’t cope with
In older cars there were speed limiter bypasses that were pretty cheap. Replacing the ECU worked too, but that was more expensive. If the demand was there, I'm sure people could still buy new cars and not be stuck with the limiter.
This is very comon in the moding scene, the first thing a lot of people do in order to gain more power is not adding a turbo or puting a different air filter, but modifying the ECU.
Audi, BMW, Mercedes and Porsche offers a cookie If you take their advanced driving class. They allow you 15% higher top speed when they tinkered with the limiter
I also feel that cars have no speed limiters, or maximum speeds of over 100 mph, even for an average Honda Civic, cos in case of an emergency, drivers may have to drive really fast (ie. Injury, emergency)
@@user-rx9ny4yo2e .... I think you mean the first thing they do is upgrade the airfilter to a ram filter or a Cai then an exhaust and downpipe, colder plugs and performance coils, Intercooler, ect ect. They do the supporting mods for a stage 1+ or stage 2 rather than sending their ecu in to get rid of the speed limiter... There isn't a forum out there that says to get rid of the speed limiter before doing the supporting mods for a tune.
As a Texan, I’ve taken the road with the 85mph limit. It’s a toll road that goes around Austin. Not a whole lot of traffic, and it’s so tempting to go faster. After all 100 is only 15 over, versus the average 30 over!
i remember going to austin airport when i was young and my dad being pulled over for going 80 in a zone which was apparently 55 even though it was flat and you could see for miles
Yeah, here in New Mexico it's insane how low the speed limits are. We don't even get 85, the highest is 75. Granted a lot of the roads are shit, but the speed limits are for revenue not safety. Virtually nobody follows it not even the cops.
Bad roads is what kills, not speed. In Norway, historically always had very high road deaths because the roads are quite frankly disgusting. A shift was done to improve many of the deadliest sections of those roads, and what you know? Suddenly the deaths were reduced if not eliminated in those section, but there is a problem, overall, the roads did not improve, only small portions of them did so the deaths continue. In Sweden, the engineers found a simple method to reduce deaths on a two lane road, by adding extra space on the sides that allowed drivers more room in case of emergency manoeuvring but also allowed slower vehicles or bikes to travel safely on at lower speeds, less room is needed to pass them. This had a tremendous effect at reducing deaths and halved Swedish road accidents, of course influx of new people with 2IQ and giving them license to drive, would mean the road accidents skyrocketed.
Sometimes it is bad roads and sometimes it's just that the driver doesn't plan ahead of the road course they are taking and run off the road on a sharp turn curve and crash.
@@MrMJmusicLover Road design sadly has to take into account the regular person driving, most people do not care to plan, they just want to get to their destination.
@@MrMJmusicLover Maybe drive on these roads first, then make suggestions, what you are saying is people should get a co-driver to stare at a map, a map does not reveal the conditions of the road. Neither how sharp some turns are
I noticed very strict limitations here in norway. I am here for a month and I am baffled at how a wide and open road can have such a low speed limit like 60. Also the drivers here don't really seem too smart... so yeah, maybe it's better that they can't really speed
You are both coming from a place of ignorance. Yes driver error is a major portion of accidents. Yes, all things being equal, 150 is more dangerous than 55. But, here is where you miss the mark: _"Highways are made for high speed"_ High speed when compared to a horse? Sure. But high speed when compared to the full spectrum of speeds available to the average modern automobile? No, not even close. I know, the slowest cars may only rarely push 100 and the fastest cars can go 250+, but the majority of cars on the highway are capable of 150+ mph. The Highways are built for tractor trailer speeds not car speeds. There are no banked curves, the exits can be far too frequent to safely get over after a sign announces the exit if traveling 120+mph, and the minimum speed is frequently 40mph allowing cars that have no business being in 80mph traffic to get on the highway. So when the 56mph car passes the 55mph car, you get a roadblock for cars traveling 80, and if the 56mph car is negligent or simply misjudged the distance and speed of the 80mph car, that is a 30mph collision traveling at around 70mph. _"When you are traveling at 150 and blow a tire you are probably going to die..."_ no, that's not as probable as you are implying. It's dependent on many factors from seatbelts to driving skill to traction control. Not to mention tires.... _"... and this¹ is way more likely to happen at this speed²."_ Assuming 1 is "dying from a blowout" is more likely, and 2 is at this speed "compared to the current speed limit," this statement is redundant in assertion, at best. Assuming that, for a brief moment, the author was following logic, 1 would be tire blowouts and 2 would be compared to lower speeds. OK well you do have to consider what kind of tires you use and the maintenance involved in them. If you have an under inflated tire with good tread, it's way more likely to pop than a properly inflated tire with low tread. And there are different grades of tires for going different speeds to handle the heat from flexing while rotating and grip the road more securely. So the likelihood of a blowout is mitigated by having better tires with the properties you need. Not to mention that there are alternatives available. Run Flat tires do as their name suggests, and that technology has been around for decades. Additionally there are tubeless hollow honeycomb tires that don't use air pressure at all, and won't blow out, just wear down. So as cars go faster, there are features to make them safer. And safety is what this is all about. When did your state last raise the maximum speed in your state? How safe were the cars in that year compared to the safety of the cars in this year? I know New York set it's speed limits in 1973, and the majority of states were in 1995 when the government repealed legislation limiting speeds. Think about a cars safety 25+ years ago compared to what is available today. And cars from 1973, almost 50 years ago? Try to think of any you would consider safe. Seatbelts and headlights are the only things that are relevant today. I guess they were past using an anchor to slow down and used brakes and maybe wipers were required? But that's it. No safety systems. No airbags. No antilock breaks, no traction control, no steel belt radial tires, no crumple zones, and tons more I'm neglecting. But this is far more than I wanted to say.
One of the big problems in the US is how easy it is to get a driver's license, you just have to be barely functional for them to hand you a license to pilot up to a 10,000 lb vehicle or one that's capable of 150mph.
Literally a 15 year old who passed the online drivers permit test and prolly looked up all the answers on quizlet can get behind the wheel of a car that has the ability to kill anyone in a second, it's scary
@@cinnamonnoob2977 It is scary, but unfortunately necessary because the US in its 'wisdom' decided that it would build the entire country to require a car to get around. We can't start damning people to homelessness and poverty by taking away their ability to even get a job, we need to build our cities properly with public transit and make walking/cycling a viable option. Also taking their license wouldn't do anything but become a revenue stream for the police ticketing them for driving without a license or fueling the slave labor market of US prisons if they get caught enough. People literally need to be able to drive a car in the US.
The "landstrasse" in Germany costs more lives than the Autobahn. Not sure what makes up which percentage of road network, but longer travels mean autobahn. The landstrasse is max100kmh, sometimes less. Turns out. Having 2 directions on one road with no divider is dangerous
Indeed. Here in Colorado is a stretch of road called Gun Club, one way to and from, with no divider, going 55mph. I've seen at least 3, maybe more death signs. I can only wonder why.
We could, but it would be far more productive to talk about how people generally have far less respect for the damage potential of a motor vehicle than they should.
@@killer13324 that’s less of an issue than the people responding to a text or riding the left lane hold the flow of traffic back and inducing road rage.
I once pushed my 2004 Jeep Liberty just too see "how fast can this thing go?" I hit 110 before it mechanically cut the power to the engine and slowed me back under 110, but it still had room to go.
I suggested to my brother to speed in my '05 KJ on a back road because it felt awesome. Of all times there was a sheriff when there's usually nobody. I had forgotten that there was an event going on in town.
Good arguments for fast cars: 1. There are emergency driving situations where speeding up to escape traffic is desirable. You probably need to add quite a bit to the speed of traffic to get the maximum speed a vehicle needs to have reasonable acceleration at. Because this speed wouldn't only be used for emergency driving, if the speed limit in Texas is 85, and people actually go 95, you probably need to be able to quickly go from 95 to 110 in at least some an emergency situation. And if you can quickly reach 110, being able to slowly reach 125 is probably inevitable. 2. Speed limits are not the same everywhere. Texas has roads where the speedlimit is 85 mph. Germany has roads where it's unlimited. Some states are 55 mph statewide. 3. Power and top speed are related. Without an artificial governor, top speeds of a car that can climb hills or accelerate through onramps at 65, 75, 85 mph against a stiff breeze will be way higher that that. Especially since ideally you don't want the engine RPM very high for freeway cruising. You are unlikely to have gear-limited speeds in the two digit mph range. 4. Artificial governors can be disabled or altered in all sorts of ways. It may be that this would be very common and thus just create a losing arms race. 5. It isn't actually that important. Divided highways are one of the safest types of road. Going 100 mph on a road designed for you to go 85 mph isn't as bad as going 50 mph on a road designed for 35 mph. Or a neighborhood "street" designed for 35 mph (which really shouldn't exist). Limiting the top speed of cars on a rural freeway is less important than limiting the practical speed of cars on a neighborhood street. Most car-related deaths come not from people driving too fast on super high speed roads designed as such but people driving too fast on slower, mixed use stroads.
In my driving history(4 plus decades), I have been instructed several times by 911 dispatchers to exceed the posted speed limit on order to follow, maintain visual contact, or try to get license plate information from a suspected DWI, road-rager, or a vehicle involved in a hit and run accident, etc. One partucular incident that stands out in my memory- the dispatcher was relaying information between myself and a responding state patrol officer who was still several miles behind. The car in question was moving considerably faster than I was. The officer requested that I accelerate and try to keep up since it was in the very early morning hours and traffic was light. I informed them that I was driving a tractor-trailer(at the time, the truck speed limit on the Ohio Turnpike was 55). The officer asked, "How fast does your truck go?"🤣 Long story short, I pushed it to over 100 to catch up, then maintained 85 to 90 about a half-mile back for 5 or 6 miles. When the officer caught up, I was slowing down & following the vehicle into a service plaza. I watched as the driver quickly failed a sobriety test, and was then cuffed & stuffed. The officer took a quick verbal statement from me. Before thanking me and sending me on my way, he said, "That big truck going that fast sure was easy to see from a long ways off."
Lol. No you didn’t. If you got in an accident as a civilian playing cop with permission from a 911 dispatcher that would of been a huge lawsuit. Nice story though kid
@@jakegrames9001 Kid?🤔 I'm sure I've got years on you. Back then, people didn't immediately go running to their mouthpiece if something bad went down while someone was trying to help.
@@sklizzy3125 'Cuz I would hope that a driver who wasn't even from anywhere near my hometown would do the same- 'cuz MY family might be a couple of miles ahead- or ANYBODY'S family for that matter- including yours.
It is much harder and more dangerous to drive in the city than on the highway. At least because of intersections. Also, 15 units of speed above city speed limit is not the same as 15 units of speed above highway speed limit - your speed relative to the flow of cars is what matters
I drive 20mph over over on the freeway every day. In some places this is over 100 mph. I have yet to have a close call going these speeds. The only place I’ve had close calls has been on roads where i was going the speed limit of 40 or less and parking lots. This is because people think the slower you go the less attentive you need to be, so they play on their phones or become distracted in other ways. Texting and driving is severely more dangerous than going 100mph And I find it ironic that the people who complain about speeders are the same people who text and drive and refuse to use their turn signals.
yeah 15 and 20 mile per hour speed limits in the city make perfect sense because there's people walking, people biking, people trying not to hear your dumbass tires, and you don't want to interrupt that environment. going 200 miles per hour on the freeway is completely fine if it's outside of peak times and you see everything within 10 seconds of travel time
@@niallkinsella2687 I wouldn't say a car from 2014 is new. The majority of new cars have some sort of 'fancy drivers aids' such as lane assist, automatic braking systems and high beam assist. Kia, Ford, VW etc .
@@mdog2501 I wouldn't say mine is new either. Not by a long shot. I'm just surprised by how new it is relative to a huge proportion of the other cars on the road.
Being fast on the highway isn't a danger at all They drivers that go fast in a 2 lanes road or a city are dangerous And let's be honest, it's all about the driver's discipline and education
@@hunterbear2421 exactly I’m scared daily about people in the other lane getting too close and if we have smaller lanes I’m just gonna be paranoid 24/7 and have a huge risk with getting hit. Semis alr have a hard time like jesus
@@swilleh_ I mean not horribly paranoid but I’m cautious asf cause I’m a safe driver but I love driving all I’m saying is being near semis is kinda sketch especially in small lanes. Why would I catch a bus when driving is one of my favorite things to do. I want to enjoy the ride and have a space to be comfy
Narrow lanes are already a huge hazard, I hate the idea of making things more dangerous. “Now that more people are dying, that’ll surely stop people from speeding!”
I've just purchased a JDM kei car, a vehicle class that is heavily limited to physical dimensions, 64 crank hp, 660cc engines and the speedometer tops out at 140km/h! I'm fairly certain these vehicles have been "factory tuned-down" to be compliant due to the fact that the 650kg turbo car I purchased has the same exact power rating as a non-turbo variant. I'm looking forward to its delivery and the experience of driving it!
I am curious, now that its been over a year, how fast have you gotten that machine to go? And which make and model Kei-car is it? Is it a Suzuki Cappuccino?
@@Avetho It's been a really fun journey, coil overs, wheels, tires, front mount intercooler, new turbo, exhaust, front aero bumper and paint😅 I'm not done yet, but I've got 120km/h on the expressway so far. It's a 1997 Suzuki Alto Works SOHC🤙
The problem is, even with all the driver assistance devices in modern cars, the people causing crashes are usually just bad drivers with slow reaction times and distractions. Speed isn't what kills people, bad reaction time and not paying attention does.
There are circumstances where driving above the speed limit might be necessary or even safer. Passing on a two-way road, for example, is much safer if done quickly. Additionally you may have someone who’s been bitten by a snake and needs to get to the hospital quickly. In both of those circumstances, people could die if they weren’t allowed to surpass the speed limit. Generally you should follow the limit, but every rule has exceptions for a reason.
If you need to pass a vehicle on a two way road then you still cannot go over the speed limit. That's called being impatient and taking unnecessary risk. If their speed was really so bad that you'd want to overtake then you'd be able to do so without going over the limit. If you can't, then you have to wait for a clear stretch of road and overtake then, if able, or wait for the road to widen to two or more lanes. If you can't overtake safely without going over the limit then you probably shouldn't and should just wait until you can. Besides, depending on your trip length you're taking about saving a few seconds to a minute or two. Not enough of a reason to put yourself and others in danger and break the law because someone's going a few miles per hour under the limit. The speed limit is always the highest authority.
Sure, but there are speeds where your ability to control a car is severely impacted, and should not be done on a public road. This happens by 100 Mph for most cars on the road in the US today.
@MrSmiley if everyone else is going over the limit then they are the hazard not you assuming you're going the limit. The speed limit is still the highest authority
@MrSmiley I think you may misunderstand what flow of traffic means and how it's applied to road laws. To your credit, actual conditions _are_ the highest authority. That's why you can get a speeding ticket in most states for going the speed limit while it's raining or if there is heavy fog. But flow of traffic is *not* the highest authority of speed. Ever. Speeding is speeding. If you are going faster than the speed limit, then you are speeding. Traffic flow is irrelevant. The times it _is_ relevant are when we are talking about specific laws. For example, if you are going the speed limit on the interstate but the flow of traffic is going much faster then you are required to stay on the farthest right lane possible except for when you are passing slower traffic. Overtaking laws like this always refer to the flow of traffic and not the speed limit simply to make the law more clear and specific. If they instead used the posted speed limit then reckless drivers not staying in the farthest right lane could more easily defend their actions. After all, they were going the speed limit. So that's why they use flow of traffic instead. But they should *not* be confused! The speed limit is always the highest authority of speed unless road conditions warrant a slower speed. Flow of traffic is a dangerous myth that makes people speed and cause accidents, congestion, and poor driving. And to address your overtaking concerns, overtaking is absolutely *not* an unsafe maneuver. Overtaking is an essential part of allowing roads to function properly! The problem is that here in the states nobody understands how our highways and interstates work. You must always stay in the farthest right lane possible, even if you are speeding, except to pass, and you can only pass vehicles on the left. Of course you may have to move for exits or otherwise when guide signs say to use specific lanes, but any other time (most of the time) you should be on the right side of the road.
The issue with that thinking is that usually speeding drivers are more experienced drivers, able to better handle the higher speeds anyways, and they also know to keep free of distractions. More danger actually lies in people who are incompetent, distracted, or under the influence and do not know how to drive at any speed.
The problem isn't speed, is the awful drivers in the US, which you have because the city design forces everyone to drive. That's why there's no Autobahn in the US despite the Autobahn itself being the inspiration of the freeways of America, the US just doesn't deserve it, at least not with the drivers that you have.
Very true; studies have shown that someone traveling below the speed limit is actually more dangerous to the motoring public than someone traveling above it (granted, you could take either example to the extreme [i.e., 5 MPH and 150 MPH, for example]).
So, a vague term like _"speed related accidents"_ would be perfect for someone presenting a biased opinion while doing no research and having no experience with it at all. That's so weird, I think they said exactly that in this video. 🤔
I hate slow drivers as well, but you are supposed to maintain your vehicle to stop at any point. Slow drivers wouldn't cause crashes if people would give more space between vehicles.
That is one of the tings that gets me when I'm driving, and i can say im getting in a state where it ill be better to pull ond the side road to cool off, like slow driving driving with a phone constantly braking in front of me. Dude drive the car +-10mph/km at the right conditions why just when u fukin drive dont do other things and if u scared to drive and drive 30under the limit let someone else drive so we don't tilt and everyone is safe
Some key factors that they never mentioned are the cars specs, a car’s tires are specific to what they’re on and have different speed ratings and can blowout after a certain speed, along with drivetrain components and the drivability at that speed
I was reading this up before it not about a blow out it more is abound the strength of a tire and safety of it as if you go over it means they were not tested at that speed and the tire can deform and wobble at high speed something you don't want at high speed a blow out can be posable if they are old and worn out but has more to do of it not been tested for them speeds so they don't know how it will hold up. A good way to see the deform and wobble effect is to watch a drag cars tire in slow-mo it wobbles about like a water balloon when it at high speed or doing a burnout it cool to see.
Right as the governor was mentioned I said aloud in a cockney accent “allo, govnah!” Right before the same words came right back at me. Huzzah, a man of quality.
that's nearly every highway in texas. our police really don't care to pull people over for speeding in my experience. i have past a police officers going over 100 and they more or less don't really give a damn.
@@dillzilla4454 Depends on the area I guess. There are definitely plenty of towns that are speed traps. Estelline is one of the most famous speed traps in the country.
Why does Germany, the only country in the world with (technically) no generalized speed limit on the Autobahn, the interstate highway system have fewer deaths on its highway system, both absolute and per 100 000 km traveled than many other countries with much more restricted speed limits? The numbers of deaths on the Autobahn has been going down over the last three decades constantly, with exactly ONE year exception in the last ten years with a small minor uptick. The death toll on ALL German roads per 100 000 km is much lower than in the USA, or the UK, or many other countries with far more restricitive speed limits. The largest number of deaths in Germany is on back-country roads / Landstraße, closely followed by inner-city traffic, accounting for the fairly large number of accidents with bicyclists being involved in car accidents. Which is something that Germany has been investing a LOT into in the last decade as well to make cycling much safer. Sure, we are no Netherlands or Denmark yet, but we are getting there slowly. Because Germans KNOW that driving on the road, especially the highway requires constant attention, not driving distracted due to texting, phone usage, drinking, eating, doing your makeup, or being sleepy due to boredom or distracted by road rage. Slow-pokes on higher speed lanes blocking traffic for miles, forcing others to take dangerous passes to the right, making them weave in and out of rolling traffic, distracted driving for any reason, no awareness of approaching cars from behind, no actual driving tests or driving training with both tough, arduous practical and theoretical written tests, completely ridiculous arbitrary intersection rules (whoever arrives first is allowed to go first is sooo arbitrary because this can lead to split-second decissions that have nothing to do with reason but with emotions), huge trucks and SUV's blocking lines of sight to other traffic participants, or heck, even to the end of their OWN vehicle difficult, making situational awareness very difficult if not impossible, these same huge trucks and SUV's carting around huge weights that make them inherently physically unable to stop as quickly as smaller lighter cars, the lack of mandatory technical checkups for any vehicles, the width of lanes suggesting free roads while in reality traffic is already close to congested, causing drivers to drive too high speeds, the construction of huge inner-city stroads (check out the channels 'Strong Towns' and 'Not Just Bikes' for a discussion of the 'stroad') which merge the worst characteristics of highways and inner-city streets, the list of totally arbitrary, illogical rules and physical reality that are not even applied consistently goes on and on. But all of that combines to make the USA and many other countries that have modelled their infrastructure on the US standard such a nightmare to drive in.
Because in Germany driving is a luxury, you do not need a car to get around in Germany. The average car ownership is 0.5:1 in other words the average person in Germany doesn't even own a car. Comparatively there are 1.88 vehicles per U.S. household, basically everyone in the US owns a car because everyone in the US needs to own a car.
@@Outwardpd @D U its 580 per 1000 people in Germany and 780 per 1000 us citizens. It's not like whole Germany is a giant city where everyone has access public transport. And still every household in Germany has around 1.2 cars. Around 70% of Germans go to work by car. 84% of transportation of people was done by car. Young people which live in cities tend to travel by bus or tram or train but if you have your own house or live just not in Berlin or frankfurt you NEED a car in Germany. It's not a luxury
It's not true what you wrote. German roads are a bit on average on the list of countries of safest roads in the EU #1 Sweden #2 UK #3 Denmark #4 Netherlands This list is as usually
@So Mad you mean the taxes that get paid for when you purchase the car….. then the goods and services get taxed when the car gets maintained…… then you have to pay to register your car EVERY YEAR which is more tax….. along with the taxes you pay when you put gas. And to own a car, you need some sort of income, so the owner is already paying their taxes thru their income. If anything theyre over taxed
@So Mad bro maybe I said sum stupid but it was early I just got up and I alr had to go to work. I was just tryna say basically hold on a sec man and I’m not tryna do the whole get mad at eachother thing let’s keep this reasonable. Ok let’s start over basically all I’m saying is taxes are already making me broke asf. I’m working 40 hours a week and the more I work the more taxes I lose almost 110 bucks out of my paycheck and other annoying taxes. Taxes on top of taxes on top of taxes. I know you might have already but provide me with proof and reasoning as to why we would ever need to pay all that just to use the roads. The government gets plenty of money from what taxes we have now by themselves.
@So Mad interesting thank you so much for giving me all that info and actually provided sources. I have to admit you got me here. I think you have a point and changed my mind on your argument or just helped me understand your idea more. Honestly I just don’t like how we run things in the US. A lot of things need to be changed and fixed in order to provide for a better future for the country. And I don’t think it will improve anytime soon sadly
You guys really need to add kilometers per hour/ the “normal” way of pronouncing/ telling speeds or anything for that matter. It’s not only people from the USA that are watching your videos you know.
Short answer: Because they can hit them on german Autobahn. The difference is: The people here can actually drive because you arent literally gifted the drivers license like in the US but have to do a kind of apprenticeship for it. Also here in germany the people don’t drive big ughly death traps all around just for the sake of it. In addition in germany you need to get your car checked every two years by mechanics of a state institution called TÜV. They check if your car is safe to drive secure for another two years without the tech failing. Also if you want to change something on your car which impacts driving the TÜV has to allow it, assuring your car stays safe. All of this results in a much lower car accident death counter per head than in the US. Despite germany not having a speed limit on the autobahn. So I can continue to drive my BMW E39 with 230 km/h on the Autobahn.
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Good video, Cheddar, with good points of views and facts. I would like, however, to ask a question: should we really be talking about the speed of the car, and limiting it, or, instead, be talking about people's driving skills and ethics? Is a car at 85/90 mph on a highway more dangerous than a car within the speed limit but not using blinkers, overtaking cars on the wrong side of the road, driving in the middle lane, stopping inside junctions causing traffic, etc? We should be more concerned about educating drivers (and people in general) to be good citizens and drivers and not caring so much about the speed limit. Generally speaking, people don't drive too much above the speed limits, because they know it is more dangerous. Thanks for the video!
Since there's a direct correlation between speed and mortality rates in case of impact, yes, we do need to focus on speed limits. I'm all in favor of trying to reach a balance between driver's responsibility and traffic enforcement, but if your only goal is safety, without any regard for convenience, the speed limit should be fairly low.
Low speed limit isn't the answer for safety, it's just an easy way, to makes it looks like the government do something. Car speed have to be very low to avoid injury, on a head on collision. Practically crawl speed. The use of automation is the answer. Such as self driving car. And before that, automatic emergency brake system, that sadly only available on high-end cars. Which the government didn't enforce to use, eventhough it's an old technology and quite cheap. There's technology available that can enhance safety, that never available on regular car, forcing people who wants safety to spend more money, to buy high end car. Meaning the problem is the regulation or the inability of government.
Exactly my point as well, I think it's just much easier for people to shift blame onto inanimate objects than people themselves, i.e. a crash happens, it's because the car was going too fast, the car couldn't stop in time, the car lost traction, the car crashed, etc.
Let‘s not blindly repeat Volvo‘s claim that they are “doing it to save lives”. They have committed to going fully electric & high speeds are just terrible for that sweet sweet range ;)
Cars have had limiters for decades - I remember my friends SC1 Saturn bouncing off 160-165KM/h - spark was cut, and would only start firing under about 160. My own 1994 Sentra GXE cut out around 170, except that one time where I was going down the Skyway, I was able to get up to 190.
Here in Europe it is now since a few days ago illegal to sell new cars that do not have build in surveillance system that register if you are speeding and automatically slows down your car and give you a annoying alarm when you go over the speed limit...
exactly because it takes fewer texters or scared old ladies to slow everyone down below the speed limit. There needs to be a "get up to speed or get out of the way" campaign where police ticket people going too slow under the speed limit if there's nothing to necessitate it.
@@maximilian952 Depends on time of day, day of week and exactly where you're driving. Even in the west there's times and places where you can go very fast. Just don't expect them to be while driving past cologne.
@@maximilian952 in the start of the pandemic during the largest lockdown, autobahn was mostly empty. A lot of people tested their car top speeds during that time there. Look it up on TH-cam
Imagine trying to pass at a high speed when suddenly the car freaks out and slows itself down, forcing you to push on the gas more. Not a safe scenario. I’ve almost been killed walking on my local road twice by cars which pull back in the lane after the driver tried to give me room by slightly crossing the center lane.
If you have to reject more than a small % of your passing attempts you might want to check your driving. Plus, passing, let alone driving, on a two lane road at the speeds these governors would kick in would be tragically stupid.
@@kevinconrad6156 I'm referring to a multilane freeway. Anytime the car takes control away from an in-control driver, it's dangerous. Kicking your speed up to pass a truck for instance. And yes, I wouldn't condone driving 100+ even to pass, but its a slippery slope before they start regulating 90, 85. I don't mind when my car beeps at me that I've exceeded, but to actually slow me down is frightening.
In Europe it's illegal to exceed the speed limit even while overtaking. On highways large trucks have lower speed limits than regular trucks and have had mandatory 90km/h governors for years. With this system, my bigger concern would be that it misidentifies the actual speed limit, because it missed a sign or read it wrong.
There are plenty of reasons why people don't like speed limiters, even if they aren't inclined to use the speed available. There's the theoretical (basically the "just in case" and personal freedom arguments). There's the practical (if you govern every vehicle to the same maximum speed, and it's reasonable - say 10-20 mph over the speed limit - it can cause traffic delays and "road rage" by inhibiting passing) (when passing on a two-lane road, I want to be around the vehicle I'm passing ASAP). And there's the "sheer enjoyment"/my car is not an appliance/aspirational aspect. Even though I might never consider exceeding the speed limit by more than 15 km/h, I still like the fact that I could go faster. I love the engineering involved, and the idea that driving is a skill that can be improved. And there's the time-honoured tradition of car nuts gathering around an open hood discussing the technical aspects of a vehicle that make it amazing, often while others argue the opposite. And that's the fundamental problem with this video - it was made by someone who neither understands nor appreciates cars or car culture. He just doesn't get it, same as I don't get rhythmic gymnastics (an old joke with my wife, who does). It's not an indictment of the athletes or sport that I, or anyone else doesn't. It's just a product of different tastes and ways that brains work. But I think this could be a useful and educational video if it was made by someone who likes cars, and didn't simply swallow all the usual clichés and truisms.
In Germany I took my 1982 Mercedes 500 SEC up to 240 KM/H on the A 95 (or A96 -- can't remember Munich to Garmish) until I realized (then 2006) how old my car was and how unwise it was. I made my check mark on the bucket list -- never went that fast again since.
My newer vehicle gives a prominent red exclamation point by my speed readout if I go too far beyond the speed limit (which the car sometimes gets wrong- there are a few spots near me that my car thinks are 25mph zones, which are actually 65mph zones). It also has automatic cruise control, and will automatically change speed when moving across speed zones, or slow down to match a slower vehicle in front of me.
Not gonna lie, I'd end up selling whatever car reduces its own speed in traffic. Driver assists are nice, but there's a point where it's too much. Driving a car is something many do every day; it is much more enjoyable to get in and DRIVE the car rather than let the car drive itself.
theres also the fact that you can bring street vehicles to racetracks, as well speed limits are a fluid thing, a couple of canadas highways just had the maximum speed limit upped to 110 km/h, obviously there are ceilings to this. the other thing to consider is i would bet that speeding in cities where pedestrians and cyclists are a factor is significantly more of an issue
Society seems to be getting more and more obsessed with safety. There is an acceptable degree of risk in life but people are losing sight of that somehow.
25 deaths EVERY GOD DAMNED DAY in the United States from auto collisions where speed was determined as the direct cause for the fatality. That's utter fucking insanity
@@Mark-kt5mh that's higher than other countries that have higher speed limits. The US has notoriously easy driving tests and roughly *ten times* the drink driving fatality rate as the UK (population differences accounted for). There are other factors making that figure so high.
In the US, the police don't want you to stop speeding because they fund local government with the penalties. Where I am, there are points that build up and should lead to a suspended license, but local judges are "nice" to you and reduce the penalty to a fine and a parking ticket (that incur no points) so you can keep speeding as long as you keep paying.
How are you supposed to pass someone if you are not allowed to go faster than the speed limit. The faster you pass the car the safer everyone is since you take less time on the lane of opposite traffic.
@@MrMyStyle69 the point is if the car in front goes 70km/h while the limit is 80km/h. I am going to pass him at 100km/h so that I take less time on the lane of opposite traffic. Sure I can pass him at the speed limit of 80km/h but it is going to take longer.
@@MrMyStyle69 - BS - if a car is driving 40 in a 50 and you try to pass at 50, it takes several seconds to pass, leaving you in the danger zone for longer than if you made the pass at 70-80 and got out of the danger zone much more quickly. People who think like you should not be allowed to drive until you have been trained.
after driving across the country twice at well over the little numbers say to go, and having zero issues, all i can say is, the people who were the most dangerous were people on the interstate looking at their phones.
I was traveling around 88-89mph about 60miles before Boise heading north at like 3am, and a cop in the median just flashed his headlights at me to slow down. Speed limit was definitely 80mph then.
It’s kinda wild how many people are mad about speed caps, blaming accidents on other factors. As someone whose uncle was killed in an accident, speeding is absolutely a factor. I feel people need to realize just how much control you have over other peoples’ lives when you’re behind the wheel. Be safe. Go the speed limit. Don’t drive when tired or inebriated. Don’t use your phone while driving. Pay attention to your surroundings.
just a few weeks ago a czech guy hit 408 km/h on a german autobahn. he faced some critisism and they tried to charge him for reckless driving but in the end nothing happend.
Speeding is dangerous in the US because of the lack of driver's discipline, which I've mentioned several times in my videos. The Autobahns in Germany have LESS deaths per mile/km even with unrestricted speeds on many parts of the autobahns. We don't need speed limiters, we need better driver discipline
I don't know how I can get this comment higher up, but if I comment on your comment and like your comment, maybe more people will see your comment, because it's a really important thing to point out.
also better built roads with fewer inconsistencies. helps allot. and a culture of attention while driving. porsche was confused when people wanted cup holders.
this.
@SolQuik natural selection
Germany can install better driving discipline due to availability of alternatives to driving: pedestrian spaces, bicycle lanes, and mass transit, with Inter City Express (ICE) trains the most prominent. Try to do that in USA:
• "You are taking away my freedom!"
• "How can I get to work?"
• "Why take away my ability to travel."
In summary, USA is very automobile dependent; in order to practically travel anywhere, a car is needed. The car is the symbol of freedom because when it is removed, Americans are "trapped"; there is simply no other option.
“Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you.”
- Jeremy Clarkson
When I was learning to drive, a friend of mine told me repeatedly, "the brake pedal gets you into more trouble than the gas pedal."
Getting rammed into by a car makes you gain speed and lose life
So the faster you go the more of a chance you’ll die……
Suddenly becoming stationary at 5mph won't kill you, stopping abruptly from 170mph will definatly kill you.
Technically, speed doesn't kill you, it's acceleration (or deceleration)
High speeds on dry highways with attentive drivers are not anywhere near as dangerous as medium speeds and distracted drivers.
Add snow for maximum chaos.
You could be looking at your phone and kill a kid doing just 10mph
@@dbclass4075 add snow in a place that doesn’t normally get it and thats a legit crisis 😂
The only times I nearly crashed, were, when I was stuck behind a slow driver and not paying attention, when I'm breaking the speed limit, even by a few miles, I'm usually a lot more engaged in actually driving
@@dbclass4075 Time to use the handbrake for maximum fun.
In Germany, if the authorities notice a significant number of accidents on a certain portion of roadway, they call in an engineer to fix the problem. They redesign the curve, they re-grade the road, whatever it takes.
In the US, if the authorities notice a significant number of accidents on a certain portion of roadway, they start issuing lots of traffic tickets on that portion of the road, and it becomes a steady source of revenue for the city.
Forgot to add that (in the US) it never fixes the problem...
@@LLF1234 “What problem? I don’t see a problem 🤑”
Sometimes they'll install a safety barrier of some kind, but they have a certain amount of money where they just call it and say it's not worth saving a life.
@@collin3012 Spending money on infrastructure? What is this, Switzerland?
LoL we in Slovakia redesign and issue tickets at same time. 😂
Calling the Autobahn a stretch of road is just wrong my friend. It's our equivalent to the US interstate system. Funny thing is even without speed limit, our highways are safer vs the ones in neighboring countries.
In comparison... it is just a stretch of road.... America is the size of Europe & Germany isn’t even the size of Texas or New York
@@elijahdryden1564 Jup but you forget that the Autobahn is a more dense network. Germany is only 1/30 of the size of the US our Autobahn network is however only approx. 1/6 of the US interstate system. So it's definitely not a "Stretch of roads" ;)
Hmm better check your sources for the last part, the French autoroute and the British motorway are statistically safer than the German Autobahn
@@edipires15 True while the autobahn is safer than highways in spain or norway. Generally speaking the Autobahn is relatively safe vs other European countries. Plus germany is the main hub from any transport from east europe to the western part.
Well he did say it went on for thousands of km (or may have said miles). Some 'stretch'! So I think just a slip of the tongue.
The "Autobahn" isn't just "a stretch of road". It's a huge network of roads going all over Germany. You'll drive on the Autobahn pretty much every time you travel between cities. Also, many parts of it do have speedlimits (sometimes also electronically regulated depending on traffic and conditions). But most of it indeed doesn't have a speedlimit.
And also, I'd hope and am pretty sure that every car's speedometer shows a much higher maximum speed than what the car is actually capable of (unless it's modded of course). After all, you really don't want to hit the max and suddenly be unable to know whether you're getting faster or slower or how fast you're actually driving.
Felt like Cheddar lacked proper research this time. This video also has huge levels of Gen Z-anti car vibes.
It's just like calling the "Interstate" as "A chunk of road".
@@rdegeest gen-z anti car vibes lmao put down your Crack pipe my dude
@@akselhansen304 I think rather you should put down your Crack pipe. Seems more fitting.
@@akselhansen304 what is he talking about?
Before even watching, I'm going to hope the answer is: Gearing and Fuel Efficiency. That's why Overdrive Gears exist.
We don't actually expect people to hit Max Speed on Commutes, but as long as cars are "geared to go fast" they can then just sit in a Higher gear while going slower which gets Better MPG. That's all there is to it. It was a Science/Engineering Reason.
Hewwo senpai, you have nice Weebvette there
oh hey bladed where’s Miata actually how’s the miata
They referenced the ssc tutatuara 😂😂
was not expecting to see one of my favorite car youtubers in this comment section but hi lol
Ah emperor bladed
This was the longest and most elaborate way of saying "Because people like it when cars are fast" I've ever seen
And no final answer
@@-Fumiken- Yes there is final answer but they dont want to upset ppl by saying that "it's not worth it to save some lives by wasting that much money on new tech that slows down cars" simple as that.
Thats Cheddar for ya.
You should make a video
Short answer:
1. Car top speeds are determined by their highest gear.
2. A car is most efficient on its highest gear at the lowest rpm.
3. Cars still need the rpm range to rev up and shift gears.
4. Therefore, for cars to be efficient, car companies can't limit gears. And for cars to be able to achieve a wide range of speeds, they can't limit rpm.
5. Well what about electronic limiters? Yeah, you can limit them then. But who's gonna pay more for less ability? Not the government and definitely not a consumer.
1. Not always by it's highest gear. In plenty of cars the highest gear is an overdrive gear and top speed is only reached in a lower gear.
2. Each engine runs most efficient under a certain load at a certain rpm. The job of a transmission is it to keep it in this range as much as possible under normal conditions.
3. They don't need the full range, but you get more power at higher RPM.
5. Germans do it this way: They limit the cars and make it an option to remove or increase the limiter. My car has a limiter at officially 155mph but in reality more like 162mph. The option for the limiter to be moved to 175mph is 1500€
@@ego4551 pay to remove handicaps. That sounds like something Tesla would do.
really? when I drive in a high gear and I brake that the RPM drop below 1000, the motor doesn't have enough power to hold that speed and thus my car will come to a hold.
A car's top speed isn't always achieved in its highest gear. Also many more powerful cars do have their top speed electronically limited, and that isn't kept a secret, its usually in the general info pack. On some models you can pay extra to have that speed limiter removed. So its who's going to pay more for more?
I would chose an electric car with a speed limiter over other cars without them. I tend to drive way too fast to stay in the flow of others on the road and I am constantly slowing back down. If there was a physical limiter, I could just set the speed I want to go and push the peddle to the floor. Oh and cruse controls are nice, but no limiter.
Tailgating at 70 mph it is far more dangerous than going at 100 mph on a open road.
Speed, in the abstract, it's just an easy value to instill fear and monetize tickets.
Depends on the type of road. On a controlled-access highway in good weather conditions, maybe. On a country road with lots of bends and side junctions, Probably not. Are you gonna have enough time to react, break and stop at 100 if some vehicle does a poor emerge?
@@LRC92 The enforced limit on roads like that is 65-70, which is massively too fast for the places those features exist, but too low in between. Limit enforcement gets treated as a minimum speed, making those places more dangerous.
If it isn't other cars, it can be animals. It really not about how useless speeding is, it's about how often people do it in dangerous context. That is obviously too much currently.
that's the point
This comment deserves more likes
Most modern cars already have speed limiters/governors in place; granted, they're usually there to keep the tires or the driveline below their failure points, but they're there nonetheless.
Nobody is objecting to have a speed limiter that prevents the car going over 250 Kmh/h. The problem is to have speed limiters set at half of it...
@@lorenzomazzorin5422 Here’s the thing, half of 250kmh? Is faster than the speed limits on 99% of roads.
@@Chimera_Photography the highway speed limit is 85mph or 135kmh where I live
@@contradictorycrow4327 you can't use the same rhetoric as a good guy with a gun here, it's just nonsense. Engaging in a high speed "escape" is dangerous for yourself and everyother driver on that road
@@contradictorycrow4327 you're actually funny, I prefer to asume you're a troll and leave it here
I can't believe no one mentioned this, but there are also hills and mountains you drive up and down on. Engines need to be capable of giving you the power to traverse them. And then also you don't want that to be maxing out your engine when you do go on those trips. That leaves you a lot of extra power to work with in more flat terrains.
interesting and true
Why do American cars only go 63 Fahrenheit per hour?
better than going 17 centigrade per hour
Because 12 inch are 1 foot
@@superspooky4580 at least our water is not salty
@@oichilli7309 and doesn't have lead in it
@@oichilli7309 the water over here in Germany isnt salty at all, I definitely like drinking my couple litres of water ... oh sorry i mean gallons or barrels,
choose whatever you like
because in Germany you can xD
Lmfao
yes yes yes!
They only thing that I envy Germany for... And the good condition of the roads.
Yeah, every german knows, german car manufacturers started, producing cars that can go faster then the speedlimit in other countries and soon Tourism skyrocketed in Germany. Other car manufacturers followed to compete in the german car market
A German here- only a few parts are where you can go fast as you want
If a car can reach 200mph, it can also stop from 60 faster than a car that can only go 120mph. If car manufacturers didn't make cars faster or try to improve driveline components, we'd still have cars that stop from 60mph in over 200ft. Many cars now have that down to just about 100ft, which is a great improvement over cars from the 70's, 80's, and even 90's to an extent.
and the speed limits have gone down throughout the us as a result of the boomers complaining
@@jackradzelovage6961 Lowering speed limits INCREASE accidents. Like Clarkson said, it’s suddenly coming to a stop that kills you. If people paid attention and had logic, we could have much higher speed limits. Most modern sedans can cruise at 100 mph comfortably.
That’s actually how I failed my drivers test, I was a bit nervous and highly concentrated on the highway and larger roads, and when I got on to a small road with a considerable lower speed limit I relaxed and ended up missing a low visibility crossing, (I live in Sweden and some of our old roads are super small with horrible visibility, you pretty much have to come to a complete stop in every intersection to check for cyclists or people walking
The improvement in stop times over the decades is more because of better tires than anything else. Also not true about braking times from 60, braking is mostly limited by the tires and a better car would have maybe 20% better brakes at best on the same tires.
No, that's motorsport what's doing that.
I once had to outrun a tornado on the interstate in texas. Both the cop next to me and I were going 130+ - it was heading right toward us and we were able to cut in front of it. If the car had a speed regulator I’d be dead.
Dude wtf, it's like in a movie, but in real life
You had no business being on the road with a tornado speeding is a excuse
@@WayneAllen-vx1vn guess you don't understand that tornadoes can come from out of nowhere.
Sixty five miles and hour would get you where you want to go and when the weather is bad you shouldn't be on the road to start with common sense
@@WayneAllen-vx1vn Tornado comes out of nowhere in the south. I'm guessing you've never seen one coming toward you - you wouldn't be going 65 to get away from it, if you did, it would be Darwin doing his thing
I drove school buses when the maximum speed was 35 mph. This was enforced by a speed governor. I found it really nice after I had dropped off my last student in the afternoon. I had a long ride back through the forested countryside to return to the school. It was beautiful scenery. With all the big windows and a quiet bus it was so pleasant of a drive. I also got paid by the hour, so holding me at 35 mph was no complaint from me.
our bus were forced 85kmh well some of them, and a couple times on a dirt road our bus driver would be going over 100kmh, then she just retired after 40years of doing it, and she was the king of the road i guess like it was scary sometimes, but nothing ever happened, and when i say i think it was 85kmh it looked like it.
@@bobbyknight3589 are driver ended up doing some crazy stuff never crashed but drifting when it lost traction a couple times it hydroplaned the front end was going opposite of the wheels, sometimes the rear end with swing out dangerious over the edge of the road, then again it was in the middle of a field so their not that many things to crash into.
@@bobbyknight3589 about 60mph
I bet the drivers stuck behind you were pissed though, lol
@@Kj16V No. It was a rural area. Virtually no other traffic. Other drivers could pass without incident.
Here's a common misconception: speed is dangerous and speed is the main cause of accidents. That's simply wrong. See how all these reports say "speed related accidents" or "accidents involving speeding"? These terms include virtually all crashes since in North America, it's an unwritten rule to drive a certain amount over the speed limit.
Speed is a multiplier of deadliness of a crash, when a crash does happen, but it's almost never the cause of accidents. If you want to make cars safer, focus on driver assistance technology, i.e. driver alertness monitoring, lane keeping, automatic emergency braking, forward crash prevention. Drivers are increasingly distracted when driving and make bad decisions. Speed limits are static, road conditions are very dynamic. Limiting a car to 60 mph does nothing to prevent a deadly crash when a driver goes 60, the speed limit, when the visibility is shorter than the stopping distance from 60 mph.
The most dangerous thing about a typical car on the road is its driver.
Not speed kills you, sudden deceleration does.
Driver assist and Lane assist is usually worse if the driver knows it's there they think it's a safety blanket that makes them the perfect driver. Remove that crap from the car and replace it with a driver that passed actually driving tests and courses. Don't make a car to do the drivers job you will just engineer smarter idiots.
Exactly, you can limit cars to 80MPH but that won't stop people from doing 80 in a school zone(15mph in the US I guess ?).
Inappropriate speed is dangerous, not the speed itself.
Total bull. If you were talking about how deadly speed is on a closed course I'd agree with you, but that's not real world driving and doesn't apply to how speed affects highway fatalities.
I didn’t read your whole comment because you wrote so much, but the higher 1 cause is the drivers are dangerous, not the speed.
if speed is the problem, please explain to my why its 3 times more likely to die on an american highway instead of the unrestricted german autobahn?
They designed their roads better, they take better care of their infrastructure, and getting a driving license is way harder probably?
@@scunicycler bingo
probably the american "stay in lane" vs. German "drive as far outside as possible"
or higher standards in terms of car safety. I mean in Germany, cars are legally required to go to a check-up every two years.
Trucks, Trailers and Vans are not driving unrestricted in Germany (regulated to either 55 or 62mph) when you look at High Speed Fatality vehicle types in the USA - the most likely you die - is in a Pickup. I think here is the issue, it's not the speed limit, it's the type of vehicle. You could probably get away with higher speed limits when you would limit it to the cars which actually can drive the speed safely. There are not almost not Pickups on German Autobahn.
@@scunicycler American drivers typically suck. It can be very frustrating on the daily commute.
German here, I went to the Hanover airport yesterday by driving the A2. It was early so I could set the cruise control to 130mph and do 200 miles in 2 hours.
You'd do 260 miles in 2 hours?
That math doesn't add up...
Can‘t keep it up forever but just wanted to show how fast you can drive under ideal circumstances.
@@allthingsmotors1763 pretty sure he just rounded it
Fellow non-American here. I’ve been to America, and from what I can tell, their problem is not speed, but discipline and skill; many of them drive like someone out of Mad Max: Fury Road, and unsurprisingly that gets such fools as just another integer in a statistic of vehicular casualties. That’s their problem; they’re horrid drivers. Whereas on the autobahn, everyone knows the importance of safe driving, and there’s nothing to rebel against, so it functions fine.
What I mean by that is, with some people, their minds are hardwired to think that whatever logical thing someone more knowledgeable than them says on a matter, they mustn’t do that. So they see speed limits, and think “no, I’ll not drive at a safe speed, because that sign said to drive at a safe speed.” Which is very unwise and backwards, but that’s how they think, it seems. When there’s no speed limits to tell one what speed to drive at, one then tends to default to the classic human instinct of “monkey see monkey do”, following the speed of the other drivers present; when everyone speeds, nobody does, essentially.
Couple of inaccuracies right off the bat: the SSC Tuatara’s speed attempt has since been debunked and just because a speedometer indicates a certain speed is far from indicative of a given vehicle’s top speed.
Also speed isn't dangerous just the rapid of change acceleration is dangerous.
@@tcs07d except it is (?) i dont understand you.
Yeah, manufacturers often cut costs by putting the same speedometer in different cars
We used to have a 2006 Honda Odyssey. The speedometer on that went to 160, even though a couple searches online found that the top speed was 120
@Narja From the point of view of fundamental physics, they're correct. The dangerous bit is when you hit an obstacle and are forced to slow down from 65mph to zero within about a foot or two, which is the same acceleration as from zero to that speed within that distance, just with the acceleration being applied opposite to the travel direction. That's remarkably likely to kill you.
Similarly, if you were to hit a pedestrian, travelling at 65mph obviously causes no harm to a person, but getting accelerated from 0 to 65 within barely any space or time at all very much will.
Obviously the acceleration of the car under its own power is not a hazard, it's the external circumstances that cause unforeseen acceleration that are, which makes it extremely ill advised to drive too fast for the kind of road and environment that you're in, so semantically you're correct as well.
I think another good point would also be that on a lot of US highways slow cars clog up the left lane (fast lane) instead of getting over to the right lane (slow lane) this can cause accidents because people going to speed limit or over it have to watch out for people who are going 10 under the speed limit causing people to weave in and out of traffic
Yes, THIS!
No, it's usually people going 5 miles over the speed limit slowing down people trying to go 10-20 miles over the speed limit.
Or it's that the road is near its capacity and people just don't like that traffic slows everyone down.
@@cadekachelmeier7251 5 mph above the speed limit on the passing lane is still lower than the standards. Now what about these drivers just move over to right lanes when someone is speeding behind them?
@@Deafscrafty7 “standards” 😅 is that what you tell the officer when you get pulled over?
@@cadekachelmeier7251 Cade is right, it’s people traveling slightly faster in order to pass slower vehicles (such as trucks) that makes the speeders 20mph+ over the limit have to slow down to only 5ish over.
In other words, it’s people using the passing lane as a passing lane that cause the law breakers, the speeders, to get road rage.
Another major reason why they don't want to limit the speed of cars in the US that you may have touched on is that speeding tickets account for a very large percentage of revenue for the police departments and states.
Nailed it.
If I can't control how fast I drive. Then I'm just gonna take the bus.
I have a brother in law who is a state trooper. He only pulls over those doing over 15+ the limit. He calls himself a tax collector in a uniform.
Pretty common, especially in cities due to flow of traffic being more important than the speed limit.
Still not wise to speed around a cop though, never know whos got a stick up their butt of a quota that day
@@goldenhate6649 There's a big difference between city cops and troopers. I would say near universally state troopers are going to leave you alone as long as you're under 15 over the speed limit. Unless you're in an area where speeding is uncommon (they actually do have quotas). If you get pulled, you're not getting a warning though (at least in NC).
City cops are very much likely to get you doing even just 5 over (sometimes even less, but you can easily plead that down to faulty equipment). But they are also likely to be the most lenient in some jurisdictions too.
Sheriff deputies.. you have to be really moving to get their attention or if they are bored. If you're going too fast they probably won't even bother. They are also most likely to give a warning depending on the elected sheriff. Very low crime areas means boredom. Something to keep in mind.
Next you should do a video exploring why the US has been reluctant to improve driver training. Most people know little to nothing about traction, car control, braking, and driving techniques taught in performance driving schools throughout the country. My friend in Florida got his drivers license in a parking lot, and people wonder why car insurance rates are so high there. Meanwhile finland is steady producing road racing champions having far better road safety per capita.
I'd point the worst drivers also tend to come from warm weather states as the provisional license rules doesn't teach a learning driver "This is a bad time to drive or to learn about traction and car control". High quality racing drivers disproportionately also seem to come from Illinois, Wisconsin, Indiana, Ohio, Michigan, etc when compared to Florida or Texas due to a combo of proximity to Indianapolis and the weather to develop various techniques.
Because the easiest way to get onto federal disability support is to prove you are unable to drive
I got my license at 17 after practicing for an hour. I took the test in a car I had never seen before.
I've never been in an accident.
Training isn't the issue. There needs to be an IQ test, not a driving test.
car dependency
when people need to drive, you can't deny them licenses
Nevada allows illegal immigrants to drive. They get a special license ("driver authorization card") specifically for them.
What you failed to remember here, is that people who design and engineer these machines are indeed automotive enthusiast. Which means they like fast cars, no one who likes cars dislikes a fast car.
@CyberNET no it’s not bad
@CyberNET Outstanding Condom
@@VSOP300blkout What are the perks of being a youtube comment comedian?
Thats strange. Most of the fast cars are owned by slow drivers.
@@FullmoonEffects89People who buy historically "rugged" tanks and restore/fix them up are very protective of them even getting a scratch. Idk if it's entirely relevant but it's ironic and funny as guck
Here in Germany it really isn’t uncommon to have people driving at 200+ km/h. And to be honest, for me and many others it would be unthinkable to have cars that can’t go past a certain, much lower speed. And trust me, it’s fun to drive that fast!
When someone in your family is crippled by a speeder, you may reconsider your stupidity.
It’s also dangerous. 😐
@@supercat2087 that’s why it’s fun, cuz it’s dangerous and you are a single wrong move from tragedy
@@supercat2087 Germany has much safer roads than most places with speed limits.
Germany has also a lower Accident rate then capped countries
Watching this as a German this whole question is quite confusing…
How fast do you generally go on the Autobahn?
130km/h (81mph) is recommended, but most people are going around 150 (93mph). Some people are mostly going 180-190 (112-118 mph) and very few people abow 200 (124 mph) upto 240-260km/h (149-162 mph)
@@nowelectric2811 I personally drive between 100-130km/h on the Autobahn.
@@SixFootScream sweet
@@yc__ There really is no point going any faster plus our gas prices are insane.
There are moments where you might need to drive fast. Happens very rarely but they do happen.
I'm a huge car guy. I love fast cars. But it's something that needs to be respected. And used responsibly. If car companies decide to limit me, I'll just modify the car. There's easy ways around the speed limiters.
Exactly. Just because I car can hit 150 doesn’t mean everyone is gonna be flooring it everywhere. I hate how they try to control everything “for our safety”
@@Nexalian_Gamerunfortunately, theres just stupid people in the world which are the reason those rules are made
@@Nexalian_Gamerit is safer to go slower believe it or not, maybe you're responsible but not everyone is, and entrusting everyone to be safe in multi ton hunks of metal isn't reliable. The gaurenteed alternative is limiters.
@@aaronthetree3758 except a car is just dangerous enough at legal speeds. And alcohol is a much bigger problem in motor vehicle accidents
The thing is that they’d probably make it a requirement to have a functioning speed limiter to be able to register your vehicle or renew it. I’m sure there’d still be ways around it but yeah.
Few problems with this video... Speed limiters are pretty much standard across the board on most US vehicles. But, its there because of the tires and/or driveshafts. The cheapie tires manufacturers throw on are only rated for so fast and allowing the consumer to exceed their speed rating could result in a blow out and a lawsuit. Driveshafts due to their length also become unbalanced at higher speeds and can rip themselves apart, again resulting in an accident and/or lawsuit. A tuning device will remove that speed limiter or set it to whatever speed you want as well, it's not difficult or insanely expensive to remove or change and lots of people do it.
Secondly, know you're audience. The majority of people who are buying high horsepower "Sport cars" aren't buying them to get groceries and go to work. Some do and that's a given, however there's drag strips, race tracks, etc all open to the public that lots of people who buy these cars are using. Manufacturers would shoot themselves in the foot neutering every single one of their vehicles to highway speeds and would prevent the people who own them from using them to their full potential where it is legal and safe (well that's relative) to do so.
Thirdly most FATAL car accidents in the US happen at 40MPH or less... so the speed argument is moot. Speed doesn't kill. Drivers who can't focus on the road, have a lack of understanding of what they are driving, no lane discipline, etc are the ones who are the biggest danger to everyone else and indirectly are the cause of a lot of accidents IMO.
I don't have metrics but from my personal expirence I see way more accidents on/off ramps, lane mergers, intersections and in urban areas then on highways or back roads, I honestly feel safer on the highway and feel that there's overall less to worry about as long as your paying attention, my only gripe is at least in the US a lot of our roadsigns for exits feel like they are way too close to said exit so it's a pain sometimes if you have say exit 15 A, B, C and D all within like 200 feet of road, granted that's kind of just the nature of how exits and highways work
The main problem is distracted drivers and people going at different speeds. A huge distraction is our smart phones.
Also, I disagree on limiting our cars speeds. We bought the car, we own it. Not the government.
"most FATAL car accidents in the US happen at 40MPH or less,"..., can you link this info? This is very interesting to me.
@@szargos a quick google search would do the job. You have access to the internet
You wanna know what could safe even more lives than a speed limit like you have in the US?
I'll tell you, some actual driver tests and driving schools like we have here in Germany. Here you have to pass a theory test first (and to even be able to take the test you need to have at least 12 theory hours in a licensed driving school first!) and then you also have to pass a driving test (for which you also need to take at least 12 hours with a licensed driving school teacher).
Another thing to mention is our TÜV system. If you want to drive your car on the road in Germany you need to have a sticker from the TÜV. This sticker needs to be renewed every 2 years and they check for everything you can imagine and if your car isnt roadsafe anymore, well tough luck then, have fun riding the bus.
Those are some of the most notible reasons, why the US has 10.96 traffic fatalitys/ 100,000 persons and Germany has only 4.1 traffic fatalitys/ 100,000 persons.
Also quick mention for those who dont know much about the Autobahn: You do have a lot of parts with speed limits and the parts without speed limits are the parts of the autobahn that have significantly less (fatal) accidents then those with speed limits. Most parts without speed limits even have less (fatal) accidents then their counterpart with speed limits. breaking down why this is the case would take to long for just a TH-cam comment but to sum it up: those parts often have very good visibility (meaning clearly visible roads, so no sharp curves etc.), are well maintained and dont suffer from a lot of weather influences that can cause accidents (i.e. fog banks, ice, etc.).
This would definitely be a great help here. But the reason this hasn't been seriously considered before and isn't in place today is because of our horrible car-centric infrastructure. In most cities in the US, there is little to no public transport. And if there is, it's probably not worth using since your trip time would be ridiculously higher than if you just drove. And even if the cities have good public transport, that almost never extends to the surrounding suburbs, like where I live. If I lived in my city then I'd almost never have to drive, but since I'm stuck in the suburbs that's the only thing I can do. Either take a 15 minute drive or a 1 hour and 25 minute bus ride.
This is exactly the choice that many of us make here in the US and the better of the two is plain as day. So until people actually have alternatives to driving, it's unfortunately not realistic for the government to be as strict with drivers as they should be. Taking away someone's license in Germany is an inconvenience and a lost privilege. Taking away someone's license in the US is taking away everything. They can't go to the store, they can't go to work, and they have no reasonable alternatives. And no, Uber is not a reasonable alternative to public transport.
Even with this being the case, I still think we should make our drivers education programs much better. Where I live, they're spitting out drivers that have no idea how to use our interstate system or which Lanes they should drive in or how to overtake or why they should follow the speed limit...I could go on. But I know we're a long way from seeing it. So in the mean time our civil engineers are toiling away at making insane traffic control devices that are as stupid proof as possible and creating larger and larger roads to support our ever growing fleet of cars.
In my (limited) experience the sections with speed limits are close to urban areas, so they have a lot more traffic and slip roads leading onto the Autobahn, creating extra hazards. Where you have more traffic by definition you will get more accidents.
Here in the UK we also limit the speed on busier sections of motorway. Unfortunately because we don't build enough roadspace to cope with the traffic, these speed limited sections are growing rapidly!
The problem is, American cities have been designed to be so car dependent, if you're unable to pass the driving test, you'd be quite screwed if you ever want to go anywhere.
We have the same here. You have to take a course, pass a test, and spend a certain amount of hours driving with an instructor to get a learner's permit. Then it is more of the same to get the licence. It has done nothing for us.
Recalculate those figures as accidents per 100,000 km driven and the story will change.
@Zaydan Naufal Might be TÜV as well but a different department. The TÜV does a lot of different things. They also certify FFP2 (European equivalent of KN95) masks as well for example. As far as I know they are active in all parts of the world so certifying pump stations in Indonesia might be amongst the things they do.
Also there are different TÜVs here in Germany as well, we have TÜV Rheinland, TÜV Nord, TÜV Süd, etc.
I got a speeding ticket for going 80~85 on a bright clear day in the left most lane at or within 10 miles if the cars around me. Best to say I was mad as hell. I was cruising safely and ticketed when the speed limit was 65 but I gaurantee the car in front of me was doing 80. Wish limits were 75~80 in highways. Just makes sense to me. If u want to go slow move right and vice versa . . . . .
The proper driving ethic should be to always drive through the right most lane and only use the other lanes to pass the vehicles in front of you. I don’t blame you for doing 85, I do over 90 all the time, but hogging the left lane is way more dangerous and impractical than speeding.
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That's an issue with you and your police officer. It was probably near the end of the month and needed a few more tickets to make quota. Just slow down when you see them.
You were going 15 to 20 miles faster than the speed limit. Why are you blaming the other drivers you’re the one who chose to speed and not just five or 10 miles over the limit !
It was a bad accident one day when someone was speeding and couldn’t see that there was an accident in the highway and ran into them.
BTW, governor limited vehicles have a very specific reason for this that's not directly about just limiting vehicle speed. Tires are speed rated. Depending on how they're made and what they're made to do, they can only be spun so quickly without losing stability or failing, altogether. The manufacturer limits the vehicle speed based on the rating of the tires they put on it at the factory. Most of those tires are rated to 118MPH.
I’m glad you made this point bro 🙏🏽
Yep- the audi a4 is limited at 132 in us but 155 in germany because they have worse tires from the factory in the us 👍
Not completely true. My car came from the factory with tires rated for 149mph but it's limited to 115mph.
@@madmatt2024 your car is limited to a speed that the tires can handle... that's what he said
not enough people know about this, because not enough people know how quickly and catastrophic going past a tire's rated speed is. my tires are safe up to 113 mph, so my car is limited to 112, because if i went 114 then all 4 tires would spontaneously uninstall themselves.
Very interesting. I drive a Mustang with plenty of power and always laugh when people in little Kia‘s and similar fly by me like I’m barely moving. I try not to drive more than 10 mph over the speed limit, but it’s difficult because can be dangerous not to mostly go with the flow of traffic. As someone else commented, part of the issue is likely the 41 million tickets you mentioned. Significant revenue for municipalities.
I drive a mustang as well. I drove a different car before and i think people do it on purpose.
They are just jealous ig 😅
I get tailgated and passed unnecessaliy almost more often now. I dont even drive slow i usually would average probably 5 over if not a little more
@@doggofv to be fair, it depends on where you live as to what “slow” is. Where I live, the average for people is about 10-15 over and the minimum is 5 over. Personally, I go with the flow of traffic (as long as it’s not something crazy like 25 over) and maintain good distance between the car in front of me. I’ve found that this mitigates most of the frustration people have with slower drivers.
Same haha. People always try to race me but I drive like a grandpa most days. But every once in a while I’ll drop a gear to keep their egos in check. :)
I've noticed this happens a lot, where a car is going a certain speed (let's say 50 MPH) and another car (let's say going 60 MPH) will pass them and then the 50 mph car will speed up to keep pace. It's quite annoying
Beware of small towns in Colorado. They are extremely notorious for keeping patrols on 24/7 to pull over anyone going any speed over the limit. Passing through to the next state over, I got pulled over for doing ONE mph over the limit. Ticket? You bet. Not a very fun day for me.
Because there are stretches of roads with barriers where cops cannot hide, and roads in the middle of nowhere where cops don't bother going and you can do whatever the hell you want without reprecussions. Speeding itself isn't dangerous, just look at Germany's Autobahn. It is one of the safest roads. It doesn't matter how fast you go if people suck are driving. You can be standing still, and have some drunk driver hit you and kill you, and you are going zero miles per hour. Speeding kills is merely a scapegoat for politicians to push the blame for their crappy roads and bad driver training. I've done 120mph on an empty midnight road where the limit is 55, where I am sure that there cannot be any cops. It was perfectly safe to do, nobody could have gotten hurt. A bigger factor is the state of the cars. Most people don't know how to maintain them, and so, those cars become dangerous at speed. However, if properly maintained with a well educated driver on a good road, any modern car can easily hold at least 100mph on the highway with less accidents than with whatever system we have now.
I've done around 120 on a freeway with another guy just cruising along at midnight before. It's safe when you know how to drive and the road is well maintained. That being said, I don't drive the average car, I have ceramic brake pads, good suspension, and a V8. I have a decent buffer zone. Everything you said is true. A car's maintenance is pertinent to a driver being able to speed safely.
"why would I ever have to go that fast" to catch up to the person who hit you and ran
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@@kubistonek LMAO, you're very naive. How do you prove who was driving the car? Why would the police even give a shit or do anything?
@@bubbleman2002 Camera
@@kubistonek Your dash cam can positively identify the driver? It must be some pretty cutting edge tech to have that kind of clarity at such a great distance, even through glass that could have a glare. Get real, pull your head out of your ass, taking pictures doesn't do shit unless it's of a person.
@@bubbleman2002 if you had an accident, im pretty sure the other car is pretty close
"This car says it can go 140mph" No... no it doesn't say that. The speedometer just goes to 140 but that doesn't really mean anything.
Ive had it both ways. I had cars that could exceed the speedometer as well as cars that couldn't even get close.
True, pretty much everyone knows the number on the speedo means nothing. See the demero video on meter made cars it has an off-the-shelf Speedo that goes to 140 or something redic.
3:03 Because certain places the speed limited is out dated. Most people WILL drive 5 - 10 over knowing that you probably won't get a ticket until you are 15 over. Then driving over the speed limit is more noticeable since everyone is going 5-10 over and you going 15 and sticking out like a sore thumb.
Ever try to drive 25 mph locally? Most people go 30 which seems to be the sweet spot. But they don't want to post it at 30 cause they know people will go 35 -40. So the government plays with numbers too knowing that people will most likely never go the speed limit.
So in general the current speed limit is right where it needs to be. Government knows that people will go over so they can give you a ticket and generate revenue. They ticket the most obvious speeders. The more noticeable you are weaving in and out of traffic or going way faster than everyone else that is also speeding the more likely you will get a ticket.
When I started driving in the 80's, the interstate speed limit for all 50 states was 55 mph. They also used to have speedometers which stopped at 85 mph, so beyond that you'd have no idea how fast you were going. They also had 4 cyclinder cars with probably 80 hp, and top speeds of around 75 mph. Things have changed a LOT in 35 years.
My 87 Hyundai's speedo stops at 115 MPH - I surpassed it (took a LONG time, tailwind and going down a hill) - this car only had 74 HP (when new, it was over 20 years old at the time)
Shit gearing in 3 speed automatics is more to blame than Iron Duke engines.
Umm yep you're like really old.
Yeah ain’t it crazy that most speed limits are still only 55 mph 40 years later cars have gotten faster, more efficient, and safer. And yet the speed limits haven’t changed
Where the hell are they 55? I've been driving from Toronto to NYC 15 years ago and the limit was IIRC 65, 70 at times. On the wya to Chicago, 10 years ago for my 30th, I was doing 70 Mph at times, 65 most of the way. Arizona, 20+ years ago I recall my old man doing 75.
@@the_kombinator it's still 55 on the 10 in Phoenix, but yeah 65 or 75 most elsewhere
Went on that 85 mph stretch in west Texas. Even in the 80 mph zone, people were easily pushing 100. You hit that 85 and you’re going 110 easy
I don't understand why speed limit on highways is lower than in Europe. Like people make 85mph a big deal in the US but it's normal throughout Europe. ( 85mph is 136kmh and most of Europe has 130kmh max speed limit, some even 140kmh ).
I have no clue why cause most of the US is pretty flat and in Central plains less populated than East Coast.
@@neonlight1214because we suck at driving and everyone is distracted on their phones
@@neonlight1214 When you say Europe, do you really mean just certain parts of the Autobahn?
While i understand speed limits and i agree with Most of them in certain areas, I would argue that putting lower speed limits on roads that were developed for higher speeds also removes a certain amount of mental stimulation for the drivers making them more likely to get distracted or spaced out. When i pull into a neighborhood i subconsciously drive slower, it just feels normal but when i'm on a highway with a 45mph speed limit that is just as big as highways with 65mph speed limits i find myself either glancing at my speedometer significantly more or setting my cruise control and trying to convince my brain that it still needs to focus even though it feels like we're barely moving.
Honestly I dont see why 65 is the speed on highways when on average the speeds I have to drive on my commute to match other cars is 80, 15 over on average, it makes the driver not care about the speed limit as it seems unimportant since nobody else follows them. Like what you said speed should be determined by road design, not just a number posted.
@@James-gd3spOn Suburban city highways like I294, I465 average speed is usually 70-90mph while on rural interstates in indiana and illinois average speed is usually 80-95 mph on 70 zones, When. I was in germany it had an auto speed limit on city highways, like frankfurt city highway speed limit was 120 kmh or 75 mph, in chicago or indianapolis that’ll be 55 mph lmao.
The fastest I've gone was 250km/h with no cars around on a smooth highway. This was during the initial COVID phase where barely anyone was driving. Even the performance of econoboxes are far above legal limits these days.
And still with no one else on the road, lights on, good visibility a cop could have fined you or worse...
@@tdgchan 250kmph is an instant loss of license, and definitley a dangerous driving charge at the least, the driver could face prison time if caught at that speed.
@@samcharles1166 laughs in German
@@tdgchan COVID cops were not pulling over a lot of people.
@@samcharles1166 not where I live. At worst you'll get a hefty ticket. Where I live there is no limit at which point speeding becomes a felony. It's only when it's combined with other traffic offenses. So I could go almost 300kmh down a country road, get pulled over, get a ticket, and be on my way.
,,speeds that are definitely illegal on any road."
**Germany laughs in Autobahn**
let's see if it stays that way. there are lots of people that want to put a general speed limit on the autobahn.
i klicked on this video just to find this comment, since I knew some german had to schreib it.
Und wenn du es nicht getan hättest, würd ichs jetzt schreiben
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Speed isn’t an issue in of itself
It’s a whole set of factors that come into play including awareness, position , anticipation etc …
Just go to any supermarket on a busy Friday afternoons d observe how people with shopping trolleys struggle to interact or how two people in the same isle in opposite directions causes total confusion …
See this and you will understand it’s not always the speed but the basic ability to move around in an ever changing environment that many people just can’t cope with
In older cars there were speed limiter bypasses that were pretty cheap. Replacing the ECU worked too, but that was more expensive. If the demand was there, I'm sure people could still buy new cars and not be stuck with the limiter.
This is very comon in the moding scene, the first thing a lot of people do in order to gain more power is not adding a turbo or puting a different air filter, but modifying the ECU.
Audi, BMW, Mercedes and Porsche offers a cookie If you take their advanced driving class.
They allow you 15% higher top speed when they tinkered with the limiter
I also feel that cars have no speed limiters, or maximum speeds of over 100 mph, even for an average Honda Civic, cos in case of an emergency, drivers may have to drive really fast (ie. Injury, emergency)
How to fix the engine: Insulate a lamp from "check engine".
@@user-rx9ny4yo2e .... I think you mean the first thing they do is upgrade the airfilter to a ram filter or a Cai then an exhaust and downpipe, colder plugs and performance coils, Intercooler, ect ect. They do the supporting mods for a stage 1+ or stage 2 rather than sending their ecu in to get rid of the speed limiter...
There isn't a forum out there that says to get rid of the speed limiter before doing the supporting mods for a tune.
As a Texan, I’ve taken the road with the 85mph limit. It’s a toll road that goes around Austin. Not a whole lot of traffic, and it’s so tempting to go faster. After all 100 is only 15 over, versus the average 30 over!
i mean, as a texan you are probably going 90 anyway on a highway
I love texas and fl open stretches for miles
i remember going to austin airport when i was young and my dad being pulled over for going 80 in a zone which was apparently 55 even though it was flat and you could see for miles
@@arjunyeleshwarapu yes but the local mayor's swimming pool isn't going to build itself.
Yeah, here in New Mexico it's insane how low the speed limits are. We don't even get 85, the highest is 75. Granted a lot of the roads are shit, but the speed limits are for revenue not safety. Virtually nobody follows it not even the cops.
"Speed has never killed anyone, it's the sudden stops that get you" - Jeremy Clarkson
Bad roads is what kills, not speed.
In Norway, historically always had very high road deaths because the roads are quite frankly disgusting.
A shift was done to improve many of the deadliest sections of those roads, and what you know? Suddenly the deaths were reduced if not eliminated in those section, but there is a problem, overall, the roads did not improve, only small portions of them did so the deaths continue.
In Sweden, the engineers found a simple method to reduce deaths on a two lane road, by adding extra space on the sides that allowed drivers more room in case of emergency manoeuvring but also allowed slower vehicles or bikes to travel safely on at lower speeds, less room is needed to pass them.
This had a tremendous effect at reducing deaths and halved Swedish road accidents, of course influx of new people with 2IQ and giving them license to drive, would mean the road accidents skyrocketed.
Sometimes it is bad roads and sometimes it's just that the driver doesn't plan ahead of the road course they are taking and run off the road on a sharp turn curve and crash.
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Road design sadly has to take into account the regular person driving, most people do not care to plan, they just want to get to their destination.
@@SMGJohn What I mean by plan is setting up the GPS either on your phone or a device.
@@MrMJmusicLover
Maybe drive on these roads first, then make suggestions, what you are saying is people should get a co-driver to stare at a map, a map does not reveal the conditions of the road. Neither how sharp some turns are
I noticed very strict limitations here in norway. I am here for a month and I am baffled at how a wide and open road can have such a low speed limit like 60. Also the drivers here don't really seem too smart... so yeah, maybe it's better that they can't really speed
the autobahn proves its not the car
it the experience of the drives,
in the Us the average person dont have the capacity to drive over 60
Why then do so many people want a 7 litre V8?
@@Phiyedough i just want a 454
In the US, going over 60 the driver has zero capability of staying in its own lane.
Highways are made for high speed. The BIGGEST problem in this country is people looking at their phones instead of the road.
And the lizard people
Well... if you are going 150 mph... if you blow a tire you are probably gonna die. And this is way more likely to happen when going this speed.
@@insertphrasehere15 I think 85mph is appropriate for highways, not 55.
You are both coming from a place of ignorance. Yes driver error is a major portion of accidents. Yes, all things being equal, 150 is more dangerous than 55. But, here is where you miss the mark:
_"Highways are made for high speed"_
High speed when compared to a horse? Sure.
But high speed when compared to the full spectrum of speeds available to the average modern automobile? No, not even close. I know, the slowest cars may only rarely push 100 and the fastest cars can go 250+, but the majority of cars on the highway are capable of 150+ mph. The Highways are built for tractor trailer speeds not car speeds. There are no banked curves, the exits can be far too frequent to safely get over after a sign announces the exit if traveling 120+mph, and the minimum speed is frequently 40mph allowing cars that have no business being in 80mph traffic to get on the highway. So when the 56mph car passes the 55mph car, you get a roadblock for cars traveling 80, and if the 56mph car is negligent or simply misjudged the distance and speed of the 80mph car, that is a 30mph collision traveling at around 70mph.
_"When you are traveling at 150 and blow a tire you are probably going to die..."_ no, that's not as probable as you are implying. It's dependent on many factors from seatbelts to driving skill to traction control. Not to mention tires....
_"... and this¹ is way more likely to happen at this speed²."_
Assuming 1 is "dying from a blowout" is more likely, and 2 is at this speed "compared to the current speed limit," this statement is redundant in assertion, at best.
Assuming that, for a brief moment, the author was following logic, 1 would be tire blowouts and 2 would be compared to lower speeds. OK well you do have to consider what kind of tires you use and the maintenance involved in them. If you have an under inflated tire with good tread, it's way more likely to pop than a properly inflated tire with low tread. And there are different grades of tires for going different speeds to handle the heat from flexing while rotating and grip the road more securely. So the likelihood of a blowout is mitigated by having better tires with the properties you need. Not to mention that there are alternatives available. Run Flat tires do as their name suggests, and that technology has been around for decades. Additionally there are tubeless hollow honeycomb tires that don't use air pressure at all, and won't blow out, just wear down. So as cars go faster, there are features to make them safer.
And safety is what this is all about. When did your state last raise the maximum speed in your state? How safe were the cars in that year compared to the safety of the cars in this year? I know New York set it's speed limits in 1973, and the majority of states were in 1995 when the government repealed legislation limiting speeds. Think about a cars safety 25+ years ago compared to what is available today. And cars from 1973, almost 50 years ago? Try to think of any you would consider safe. Seatbelts and headlights are the only things that are relevant today. I guess they were past using an anchor to slow down and used brakes and maybe wipers were required? But that's it. No safety systems. No airbags. No antilock breaks, no traction control, no steel belt radial tires, no crumple zones, and tons more I'm neglecting.
But this is far more than I wanted to say.
One of the big problems in the US is how easy it is to get a driver's license, you just have to be barely functional for them to hand you a license to pilot up to a 10,000 lb vehicle or one that's capable of 150mph.
Or 200 mph. There’s literally nothing stopping a person with a drivers permit from hopping a Hellcat. At least not legally.
As others pointed out, the bigger problem is their country is car dependent as any other form of transportation is considered second class.
Yup
Literally a 15 year old who passed the online drivers permit test and prolly looked up all the answers on quizlet can get behind the wheel of a car that has the ability to kill anyone in a second, it's scary
@@cinnamonnoob2977 It is scary, but unfortunately necessary because the US in its 'wisdom' decided that it would build the entire country to require a car to get around. We can't start damning people to homelessness and poverty by taking away their ability to even get a job, we need to build our cities properly with public transit and make walking/cycling a viable option. Also taking their license wouldn't do anything but become a revenue stream for the police ticketing them for driving without a license or fueling the slave labor market of US prisons if they get caught enough. People literally need to be able to drive a car in the US.
In Texas every speed is legal unless its school zone, construction zone, or there are cops nearby😂
That's the case everywhere. I could also say in Germany bank robberies are legal as long as you don't get caught.
We could also talk about how road designs have a great impact on accidents. We could also talk about driving culture has an impact on accident rates.
The "landstrasse" in Germany costs more lives than the Autobahn. Not sure what makes up which percentage of road network, but longer travels mean autobahn. The landstrasse is max100kmh, sometimes less. Turns out. Having 2 directions on one road with no divider is dangerous
good old long island with the
Indeed. Here in Colorado is a stretch of road called Gun Club, one way to and from, with no divider, going 55mph. I've seen at least 3, maybe more death signs. I can only wonder why.
We could, but it would be far more productive to talk about how people generally have far less respect for the damage potential of a motor vehicle than they should.
@@killer13324 that’s less of an issue than the people responding to a text or riding the left lane hold the flow of traffic back and inducing road rage.
imagine the lost revenue for police if speeding wasnt possible
Bullshit. Those liars will find anything to extort the populace.
That is what thugs do
Oh they would still make a motza from people on their smartphones etc... theres always revenue to be made.
@@Fanta.... As they should.
I once pushed my 2004 Jeep Liberty just too see "how fast can this thing go?"
I hit 110 before it mechanically cut the power to the engine and slowed me back under 110, but it still had room to go.
I suggested to my brother to speed in my '05 KJ on a back road because it felt awesome. Of all times there was a sheriff when there's usually nobody. I had forgotten that there was an event going on in town.
@@Midala87 You are not entitled to break the law.
@@asmc1492 but it still happens every single day by every single driver
110 In a liberty? Going 90 in one of those feels like 130 😂
@@asmc1492 no one cares little kid
Good arguments for fast cars:
1. There are emergency driving situations where speeding up to escape traffic is desirable. You probably need to add quite a bit to the speed of traffic to get the maximum speed a vehicle needs to have reasonable acceleration at. Because this speed wouldn't only be used for emergency driving, if the speed limit in Texas is 85, and people actually go 95, you probably need to be able to quickly go from 95 to 110 in at least some an emergency situation. And if you can quickly reach 110, being able to slowly reach 125 is probably inevitable.
2. Speed limits are not the same everywhere. Texas has roads where the speedlimit is 85 mph. Germany has roads where it's unlimited. Some states are 55 mph statewide.
3. Power and top speed are related. Without an artificial governor, top speeds of a car that can climb hills or accelerate through onramps at 65, 75, 85 mph against a stiff breeze will be way higher that that. Especially since ideally you don't want the engine RPM very high for freeway cruising. You are unlikely to have gear-limited speeds in the two digit mph range.
4. Artificial governors can be disabled or altered in all sorts of ways. It may be that this would be very common and thus just create a losing arms race.
5. It isn't actually that important. Divided highways are one of the safest types of road. Going 100 mph on a road designed for you to go 85 mph isn't as bad as going 50 mph on a road designed for 35 mph. Or a neighborhood "street" designed for 35 mph (which really shouldn't exist). Limiting the top speed of cars on a rural freeway is less important than limiting the practical speed of cars on a neighborhood street. Most car-related deaths come not from people driving too fast on super high speed roads designed as such but people driving too fast on slower, mixed use stroads.
In my driving history(4 plus decades), I have been instructed several times by 911 dispatchers to exceed the posted speed limit on order to follow, maintain visual contact, or try to get license plate information from a suspected DWI, road-rager, or a vehicle involved in a hit and run accident, etc.
One partucular incident that stands out in my memory- the dispatcher was relaying information between myself and a responding state patrol officer who was still several miles behind.
The car in question was moving considerably faster than I was. The officer requested that I accelerate and try to keep up since it was in the very early morning hours and traffic was light. I informed them that I was driving a tractor-trailer(at the time, the truck speed limit on the Ohio Turnpike was 55).
The officer asked, "How fast does your truck go?"🤣
Long story short, I pushed it to over 100 to catch up, then maintained 85 to 90 about a half-mile back for 5 or 6 miles.
When the officer caught up, I was slowing down & following the vehicle into a service plaza.
I watched as the driver quickly failed a sobriety test, and was then cuffed & stuffed.
The officer took a quick verbal statement from me. Before thanking me and sending me on my way, he said, "That big truck going that fast sure was easy to see from a long ways off."
Lol. No you didn’t. If you got in an accident as a civilian playing cop with permission from a 911 dispatcher that would of been a huge lawsuit. Nice story though kid
why u snitching bro
@@jakegrames9001
Kid?🤔
I'm sure I've got years on you.
Back then, people didn't immediately go running to their mouthpiece if something bad went down while someone was trying to help.
@@sklizzy3125
'Cuz I would hope that a driver who wasn't even from anywhere near my hometown would do the same- 'cuz MY family might be a couple of miles ahead- or ANYBODY'S family for that matter- including yours.
several times tho you either got great luck or very bad luck.
Cheddar: Why doesn't the government require additional functionality in cars that no one asked for?
Also Cheddar: Why are cars so expensive today?
It is much harder and more dangerous to drive in the city than on the highway. At least because of intersections. Also, 15 units of speed above city speed limit is not the same as 15 units of speed above highway speed limit - your speed relative to the flow of cars is what matters
I drive 20mph over over on the freeway every day. In some places this is over 100 mph.
I have yet to have a close call going these speeds. The only place I’ve had close calls has been on roads where i was going the speed limit of 40 or less and parking lots.
This is because people think the slower you go the less attentive you need to be, so they play on their phones or become distracted in other ways.
Texting and driving is severely more dangerous than going 100mph
And I find it ironic that the people who complain about speeders are the same people who text and drive and refuse to use their turn signals.
yeah 15 and 20 mile per hour speed limits in the city make perfect sense because there's people walking, people biking, people trying not to hear your dumbass tires, and you don't want to interrupt that environment. going 200 miles per hour on the freeway is completely fine if it's outside of peak times and you see everything within 10 seconds of travel time
Restricting the speeds of cars to the speed limit would instantly kill amateur racing, just imagine a Nurburgring track day at 70 mph
No. 'most' cars don't have lane assist, and other fancy driver aids, sorry.
Many new cars in Europe have lane assist as standard.
@@mdog2501
It amazes me, but my 2014 is one of the newer cars I see on the roads in one European capital.
@@niallkinsella2687 I wouldn't say a car from 2014 is new. The majority of new cars have some sort of 'fancy drivers aids' such as lane assist, automatic braking systems and high beam assist. Kia, Ford, VW etc .
@@mdog2501
I wouldn't say mine is new either. Not by a long shot. I'm just surprised by how new it is relative to a huge proportion of the other cars on the road.
*most new cars. Vast majority of cars on the road though don't have those features
Being fast on the highway isn't a danger at all
They drivers that go fast in a 2 lanes road or a city are dangerous
And let's be honest, it's all about the driver's discipline and education
Well, since you can't trust people to do the right thing, no one can have nice things.
@@johnstorm9314 agreed
6:32 *"With speeding more likely on wider roads one idea is to reduce lane widths by 10 feet..."*
So, turn all roads into bike lanes, genius!
yeah well they were saying that stuff, i was like wouldn't that make it more dangerous
@@hunterbear2421 exactly I’m scared daily about people in the other lane getting too close and if we have smaller lanes I’m just gonna be paranoid 24/7 and have a huge risk with getting hit. Semis alr have a hard time like jesus
@@wowed1659 then go catch a bus if you are so paranoid of this.
@@swilleh_ I mean not horribly paranoid but I’m cautious asf cause I’m a safe driver but I love driving all I’m saying is being near semis is kinda sketch especially in small lanes. Why would I catch a bus when driving is one of my favorite things to do. I want to enjoy the ride and have a space to be comfy
Narrow lanes are already a huge hazard, I hate the idea of making things more dangerous.
“Now that more people are dying, that’ll surely stop people from speeding!”
I've just purchased a JDM kei car, a vehicle class that is heavily limited to physical dimensions, 64 crank hp, 660cc engines and the speedometer tops out at 140km/h! I'm fairly certain these vehicles have been "factory tuned-down" to be compliant due to the fact that the 650kg turbo car I purchased has the same exact power rating as a non-turbo variant. I'm looking forward to its delivery and the experience of driving it!
I am curious, now that its been over a year, how fast have you gotten that machine to go? And which make and model Kei-car is it? Is it a Suzuki Cappuccino?
@@Avetho It's been a really fun journey, coil overs, wheels, tires, front mount intercooler, new turbo, exhaust, front aero bumper and paint😅 I'm not done yet, but I've got 120km/h on the expressway so far. It's a 1997 Suzuki Alto Works SOHC🤙
@@allenplant1702 Ooh that's a nice car, the mini hot hatch with a hood scoop :D
The problem is, even with all the driver assistance devices in modern cars, the people causing crashes are usually just bad drivers with slow reaction times and distractions. Speed isn't what kills people, bad reaction time and not paying attention does.
Agreed, and some of the bad drivers shouldn’t be on the road at all because maybe they’re taking medicine and are elderly or have poor vision.
There are circumstances where driving above the speed limit might be necessary or even safer. Passing on a two-way road, for example, is much safer if done quickly. Additionally you may have someone who’s been bitten by a snake and needs to get to the hospital quickly. In both of those circumstances, people could die if they weren’t allowed to surpass the speed limit.
Generally you should follow the limit, but every rule has exceptions for a reason.
If you need to pass a vehicle on a two way road then you still cannot go over the speed limit. That's called being impatient and taking unnecessary risk. If their speed was really so bad that you'd want to overtake then you'd be able to do so without going over the limit. If you can't, then you have to wait for a clear stretch of road and overtake then, if able, or wait for the road to widen to two or more lanes. If you can't overtake safely without going over the limit then you probably shouldn't and should just wait until you can. Besides, depending on your trip length you're taking about saving a few seconds to a minute or two. Not enough of a reason to put yourself and others in danger and break the law because someone's going a few miles per hour under the limit. The speed limit is always the highest authority.
Sure, but there are speeds where your ability to control a car is severely impacted, and should not be done on a public road. This happens by 100 Mph for most cars on the road in the US today.
@MrSmiley if everyone else is going over the limit then they are the hazard not you assuming you're going the limit. The speed limit is still the highest authority
@MrSmiley I think you may misunderstand what flow of traffic means and how it's applied to road laws. To your credit, actual conditions _are_ the highest authority. That's why you can get a speeding ticket in most states for going the speed limit while it's raining or if there is heavy fog. But flow of traffic is *not* the highest authority of speed. Ever.
Speeding is speeding. If you are going faster than the speed limit, then you are speeding. Traffic flow is irrelevant. The times it _is_ relevant are when we are talking about specific laws. For example, if you are going the speed limit on the interstate but the flow of traffic is going much faster then you are required to stay on the farthest right lane possible except for when you are passing slower traffic. Overtaking laws like this always refer to the flow of traffic and not the speed limit simply to make the law more clear and specific. If they instead used the posted speed limit then reckless drivers not staying in the farthest right lane could more easily defend their actions. After all, they were going the speed limit. So that's why they use flow of traffic instead.
But they should *not* be confused! The speed limit is always the highest authority of speed unless road conditions warrant a slower speed. Flow of traffic is a dangerous myth that makes people speed and cause accidents, congestion, and poor driving.
And to address your overtaking concerns, overtaking is absolutely *not* an unsafe maneuver. Overtaking is an essential part of allowing roads to function properly! The problem is that here in the states nobody understands how our highways and interstates work. You must always stay in the farthest right lane possible, even if you are speeding, except to pass, and you can only pass vehicles on the left. Of course you may have to move for exits or otherwise when guide signs say to use specific lanes, but any other time (most of the time) you should be on the right side of the road.
@@loliswat8223 I drive 95 in a 45 (4 lane highway) cus it's the flow of traffic and I don't respect speed limits on highways
The issue with that thinking is that usually speeding drivers are more experienced drivers, able to better handle the higher speeds anyways, and they also know to keep free of distractions. More danger actually lies in people who are incompetent, distracted, or under the influence and do not know how to drive at any speed.
The 2 best places to test your car's top speed are long racetracks & the Autobahn, which is a road found only in Germany.
The problem isn't speed, is the awful drivers in the US, which you have because the city design forces everyone to drive. That's why there's no Autobahn in the US despite the Autobahn itself being the inspiration of the freeways of America, the US just doesn't deserve it, at least not with the drivers that you have.
It's also way too easy to get a license.
a lot of accidents are caused by people driving far under the speed limit too lmao
Very true; studies have shown that someone traveling below the speed limit is actually more dangerous to the motoring public than someone traveling above it (granted, you could take either example to the extreme [i.e., 5 MPH and 150 MPH, for example]).
a lot of accidents are caused by idiots traveling at all speeds
So, a vague term like _"speed related accidents"_ would be perfect for someone presenting a biased opinion while doing no research and having no experience with it at all.
That's so weird, I think they said exactly that in this video. 🤔
I hate slow drivers as well, but you are supposed to maintain your vehicle to stop at any point. Slow drivers wouldn't cause crashes if people would give more space between vehicles.
That is one of the tings that gets me when I'm driving, and i can say im getting in a state where it ill be better to pull ond the side road to cool off, like slow driving driving with a phone constantly braking in front of me. Dude drive the car +-10mph/km at the right conditions why just when u fukin drive dont do other things and if u scared to drive and drive 30under the limit let someone else drive so we don't tilt and everyone is safe
Some key factors that they never mentioned are the cars specs, a car’s tires are specific to what they’re on and have different speed ratings and can blowout after a certain speed, along with drivetrain components and the drivability at that speed
I was reading this up before it not about a blow out it more is abound the strength of a tire and safety of it as if you go over it means they were not tested at that speed and the tire can deform and wobble at high speed something you don't want at high speed a blow out can be posable if they are old and worn out but has more to do of it not been tested for them speeds so they don't know how it will hold up. A good way to see the deform and wobble effect is to watch a drag cars tire in slow-mo it wobbles about like a water balloon when it at high speed or doing a burnout it cool to see.
Right as the governor was mentioned I said aloud in a cockney accent “allo, govnah!” Right before the same words came right back at me.
Huzzah, a man of quality.
"And even up to speeds that ar definetly illegal on any road" 1:07
German Autobahn: allowe me to introduce myself
1:55 Driven that highway a few times. Still feels totally surreal passing a state trooper while going 90 mph and not getting pulled over.
that's nearly every highway in texas. our police really don't care to pull people over for speeding in my experience. i have past a police officers going over 100 and they more or less don't really give a damn.
@@dillzilla4454 Depends on the area I guess. There are definitely plenty of towns that are speed traps. Estelline is one of the most famous speed traps in the country.
@jimmy also depends on whether you are white or not. data suggests that whites are less likely to be pulled over
@@jonathangrey1707 I am a dog (see profile picture)
@@jonathangrey1707 dawg how does a cop know what color you are when you fly past him at 100 mph
Why does Germany, the only country in the world with (technically) no generalized speed limit on the Autobahn, the interstate highway system have fewer deaths on its highway system, both absolute and per 100 000 km traveled than many other countries with much more restricted speed limits?
The numbers of deaths on the Autobahn has been going down over the last three decades constantly, with exactly ONE year exception in the last ten years with a small minor uptick.
The death toll on ALL German roads per 100 000 km is much lower than in the USA, or the UK, or many other countries with far more restricitive speed limits.
The largest number of deaths in Germany is on back-country roads / Landstraße, closely followed by inner-city traffic, accounting for the fairly large number of accidents with bicyclists being involved in car accidents. Which is something that Germany has been investing a LOT into in the last decade as well to make cycling much safer. Sure, we are no Netherlands or Denmark yet, but we are getting there slowly.
Because Germans KNOW that driving on the road, especially the highway requires constant attention, not driving distracted due to texting, phone usage, drinking, eating, doing your makeup, or being sleepy due to boredom or distracted by road rage.
Slow-pokes on higher speed lanes blocking traffic for miles, forcing others to take dangerous passes to the right, making them weave in and out of rolling traffic,
distracted driving for any reason,
no awareness of approaching cars from behind,
no actual driving tests or driving training with both tough, arduous practical and theoretical written tests,
completely ridiculous arbitrary intersection rules (whoever arrives first is allowed to go first is sooo arbitrary because this can lead to split-second decissions that have nothing to do with reason but with emotions),
huge trucks and SUV's blocking lines of sight to other traffic participants, or heck, even to the end of their OWN vehicle difficult, making situational awareness very difficult if not impossible,
these same huge trucks and SUV's carting around huge weights that make them inherently physically unable to stop as quickly as smaller lighter cars,
the lack of mandatory technical checkups for any vehicles,
the width of lanes suggesting free roads while in reality traffic is already close to congested, causing drivers to drive too high speeds,
the construction of huge inner-city stroads (check out the channels 'Strong Towns' and 'Not Just Bikes' for a discussion of the 'stroad') which merge the worst characteristics of highways and inner-city streets,
the list of totally arbitrary, illogical rules and physical reality that are not even applied consistently goes on and on.
But all of that combines to make the USA and many other countries that have modelled their infrastructure on the US standard such a nightmare to drive in.
Because in Germany driving is a luxury, you do not need a car to get around in Germany. The average car ownership is 0.5:1 in other words the average person in Germany doesn't even own a car. Comparatively there are 1.88 vehicles per U.S. household, basically everyone in the US owns a car because everyone in the US needs to own a car.
@@Outwardpd @D U its 580 per 1000 people in Germany and 780 per 1000 us citizens. It's not like whole Germany is a giant city where everyone has access public transport. And still every household in Germany has around 1.2 cars. Around 70% of Germans go to work by car. 84% of transportation of people was done by car.
Young people which live in cities tend to travel by bus or tram or train but if you have your own house or live just not in Berlin or frankfurt you NEED a car in Germany. It's not a luxury
I liked your comment until you mentioned that anti-car bastard.
It's not true what you wrote. German roads are a bit on average on the list of countries of safest roads in the EU
#1 Sweden
#2 UK
#3 Denmark
#4 Netherlands
This list is as usually
In Japan we've thought of that, cars in Japan used to have an annoying chime that would sound if you passed 100 km/h(62 MPH)
Here in America it's because of entrapment. That way they can get more money out of us with speeding tickets.
the government already has enough regulations for cars, adding speed limiters would only make it worse than it already is
@So Mad hell no. more taxes? we alr pay enough. It’s a well deserved privelages for a lot of us that we shouldn’t have to pay for
@So Mad you mean the taxes that get paid for when you purchase the car….. then the goods and services get taxed when the car gets maintained…… then you have to pay to register your car EVERY YEAR which is more tax….. along with the taxes you pay when you put gas. And to own a car, you need some sort of income, so the owner is already paying their taxes thru their income. If anything theyre over taxed
@So Mad the guy right above you frank that you were talking could provide a better argument im at work rn
@So Mad bro maybe I said sum stupid but it was early I just got up and I alr had to go to work. I was just tryna say basically hold on a sec man and I’m not tryna do the whole get mad at eachother thing let’s keep this reasonable. Ok let’s start over basically all I’m saying is taxes are already making me broke asf. I’m working 40 hours a week and the more I work the more taxes I lose almost 110 bucks out of my paycheck and other annoying taxes. Taxes on top of taxes on top of taxes. I know you might have already but provide me with proof and reasoning as to why we would ever need to pay all that just to use the roads. The government gets plenty of money from what taxes we have now by themselves.
@So Mad interesting thank you so much for giving me all that info and actually provided sources. I have to admit you got me here. I think you have a point and changed my mind on your argument or just helped me understand your idea more. Honestly I just don’t like how we run things in the US. A lot of things need to be changed and fixed in order to provide for a better future for the country. And I don’t think it will improve anytime soon sadly
You guys really need to add kilometers per hour/ the “normal” way of pronouncing/ telling speeds or anything for that matter.
It’s not only people from the USA that are watching your videos you know.
Myanmar and Liberia also use Imperial measurements.
(I'm sure they represent a significant percentage of Cheddar viewers)
The guy is from the UK and here in the UK we till use MiPH on roads for some reason
@@ChrispyDubstep you also drive on the wrong side of the road lmao.
@@XTreMe2k6 Only a few of the many reasons why god put the brits on an island xD
You know, YOU are watching an american video, so maybe YOU should allow the mph and just adapt yourself
Short answer: Because they can hit them on german Autobahn. The difference is: The people here can actually drive because you arent literally gifted the drivers license like in the US but have to do a kind of apprenticeship for it. Also here in germany the people don’t drive big ughly death traps all around just for the sake of it. In addition in germany you need to get your car checked every two years by mechanics of a state institution called TÜV. They check if your car is safe to drive secure for another two years without the tech failing. Also if you want to change something on your car which impacts driving the TÜV has to allow it, assuring your car stays safe. All of this results in a much lower car accident death counter per head than in the US. Despite germany not having a speed limit on the autobahn. So I can continue to drive my BMW E39 with 230 km/h on the Autobahn.
Good video, Cheddar, with good points of views and facts. I would like, however, to ask a question: should we really be talking about the speed of the car, and limiting it, or, instead, be talking about people's driving skills and ethics? Is a car at 85/90 mph on a highway more dangerous than a car within the speed limit but not using blinkers, overtaking cars on the wrong side of the road, driving in the middle lane, stopping inside junctions causing traffic, etc? We should be more concerned about educating drivers (and people in general) to be good citizens and drivers and not caring so much about the speed limit. Generally speaking, people don't drive too much above the speed limits, because they know it is more dangerous. Thanks for the video!
Excellent points
Since there's a direct correlation between speed and mortality rates in case of impact, yes, we do need to focus on speed limits. I'm all in favor of trying to reach a balance between driver's responsibility and traffic enforcement, but if your only goal is safety, without any regard for convenience, the speed limit should be fairly low.
Low speed limit isn't the answer for safety, it's just an easy way, to makes it looks like the government do something.
Car speed have to be very low to avoid injury, on a head on collision. Practically crawl speed.
The use of automation is the answer. Such as self driving car.
And before that, automatic emergency brake system, that sadly only available on high-end cars.
Which the government didn't enforce to use, eventhough it's an old technology and quite cheap.
There's technology available that can enhance safety, that never available on regular car, forcing people who wants safety to spend more money, to buy high end car.
Meaning the problem is the regulation or the inability of government.
Exactly my point as well, I think it's just much easier for people to shift blame onto inanimate objects than people themselves, i.e. a crash happens, it's because the car was going too fast, the car couldn't stop in time, the car lost traction, the car crashed, etc.
Let‘s not blindly repeat Volvo‘s claim that they are “doing it to save lives”. They have committed to going fully electric & high speeds are just terrible for that sweet sweet range ;)
Cars have had limiters for decades - I remember my friends SC1 Saturn bouncing off 160-165KM/h - spark was cut, and would only start firing under about 160. My own 1994 Sentra GXE cut out around 170, except that one time where I was going down the Skyway, I was able to get up to 190.
Here in Europe it is now since a few days ago illegal to sell new cars that do not have build in surveillance system that register if you are speeding and automatically slows down your car and give you a annoying alarm when you go over the speed limit...
ah yes EU the big brother
Another major problem with the little road designs meant to limit speed naturally is that they also tend to congest traffic badly.
exactly because it takes fewer texters or scared old ladies to slow everyone down below the speed limit. There needs to be a "get up to speed or get out of the way" campaign where police ticket people going too slow under the speed limit if there's nothing to necessitate it.
Only some sections of the Autobahn are without speedlimit and the Richtgeschwindingkeit (recommended speed) is 130 kmph something like 90 miles or so.
'some' sections being 70%
@@Steamrick yeah, but you definitely cant go as fast as you can in these areas, especially in the west there is a lot of traffic
@@maximilian952 Depends on time of day, day of week and exactly where you're driving. Even in the west there's times and places where you can go very fast. Just don't expect them to be while driving past cologne.
@@maximilian952 in the start of the pandemic during the largest lockdown, autobahn was mostly empty. A lot of people tested their car top speeds during that time there. Look it up on TH-cam
@@maximilian952 You can. Holy shit it's a pro speed limit lie that you can't. You often can.
Imagine trying to pass at a high speed when suddenly the car freaks out and slows itself down, forcing you to push on the gas more. Not a safe scenario. I’ve almost been killed walking on my local road twice by cars which pull back in the lane after the driver tried to give me room by slightly crossing the center lane.
If you have to reject more than a small % of your passing attempts you might want to check your driving. Plus, passing, let alone driving, on a two lane road at the speeds these governors would kick in would be tragically stupid.
What
@@kevinconrad6156 I'm referring to a multilane freeway. Anytime the car takes control away from an in-control driver, it's dangerous. Kicking your speed up to pass a truck for instance. And yes, I wouldn't condone driving 100+ even to pass, but its a slippery slope before they start regulating 90, 85. I don't mind when my car beeps at me that I've exceeded, but to actually slow me down is frightening.
In Europe it's illegal to exceed the speed limit even while overtaking. On highways large trucks have lower speed limits than regular trucks and have had mandatory 90km/h governors for years. With this system, my bigger concern would be that it misidentifies the actual speed limit, because it missed a sign or read it wrong.
@@Vengir Exactly, its these systems still rely on infrastructure we don't have everywhere.
There are plenty of reasons why people don't like speed limiters, even if they aren't inclined to use the speed available.
There's the theoretical (basically the "just in case" and personal freedom arguments).
There's the practical (if you govern every vehicle to the same maximum speed, and it's reasonable - say 10-20 mph over the speed limit - it can cause traffic delays and "road rage" by inhibiting passing) (when passing on a two-lane road, I want to be around the vehicle I'm passing ASAP).
And there's the "sheer enjoyment"/my car is not an appliance/aspirational aspect. Even though I might never consider exceeding the speed limit by more than 15 km/h, I still like the fact that I could go faster. I love the engineering involved, and the idea that driving is a skill that can be improved. And there's the time-honoured tradition of car nuts gathering around an open hood discussing the technical aspects of a vehicle that make it amazing, often while others argue the opposite.
And that's the fundamental problem with this video - it was made by someone who neither understands nor appreciates cars or car culture. He just doesn't get it, same as I don't get rhythmic gymnastics (an old joke with my wife, who does). It's not an indictment of the athletes or sport that I, or anyone else doesn't. It's just a product of different tastes and ways that brains work.
But I think this could be a useful and educational video if it was made by someone who likes cars, and didn't simply swallow all the usual clichés and truisms.
I always wondered why not make more public race tracks?
There are public race tracks in Florida. I don’t know about the other states.
I actually drove my car's maximum speed multiple times. It's 200kph about 125mph. But most of the time I just cruise at 60 even 70mph.
In Germany I took my 1982 Mercedes 500 SEC up to 240 KM/H on the A 95 (or A96 -- can't remember Munich to Garmish) until I realized (then 2006) how old my car was and how unwise it was. I made my check mark on the bucket list -- never went that fast again since.
My newer vehicle gives a prominent red exclamation point by my speed readout if I go too far beyond the speed limit (which the car sometimes gets wrong- there are a few spots near me that my car thinks are 25mph zones, which are actually 65mph zones). It also has automatic cruise control, and will automatically change speed when moving across speed zones, or slow down to match a slower vehicle in front of me.
Thats the dumbest thing I've ever heard that a car can do. Are you able to override it?
Not gonna lie, I'd end up selling whatever car reduces its own speed in traffic. Driver assists are nice, but there's a point where it's too much. Driving a car is something many do every day; it is much more enjoyable to get in and DRIVE the car rather than let the car drive itself.
theres also the fact that you can bring street vehicles to racetracks, as well speed limits are a fluid thing, a couple of canadas highways just had the maximum speed limit upped to 110 km/h, obviously there are ceilings to this. the other thing to consider is i would bet that speeding in cities where pedestrians and cyclists are a factor is significantly more of an issue
Society seems to be getting more and more obsessed with safety. There is an acceptable degree of risk in life but people are losing sight of that somehow.
25 deaths EVERY GOD DAMNED DAY in the United States from auto collisions where speed was determined as the direct cause for the fatality. That's utter fucking insanity
@@Mark-kt5mh that's higher than other countries that have higher speed limits. The US has notoriously easy driving tests and roughly *ten times* the drink driving fatality rate as the UK (population differences accounted for). There are other factors making that figure so high.
@@Mark-kt5mh 2 people die every second though, so eh
In the US, the police don't want you to stop speeding because they fund local government with the penalties. Where I am, there are points that build up and should lead to a suspended license, but local judges are "nice" to you and reduce the penalty to a fine and a parking ticket (that incur no points) so you can keep speeding as long as you keep paying.
Exactly
How are you supposed to pass someone if you are not allowed to go faster than the speed limit. The faster you pass the car the safer everyone is since you take less time on the lane of opposite traffic.
Passing speed, if you have a dashcam you will win the court case
If you need to drive past the speed limit to pass a car you do not have to pass the car
@@MrMyStyle69 you are a genius, congratulations.
@@MrMyStyle69 the point is if the car in front goes 70km/h while the limit is 80km/h. I am going to pass him at 100km/h so that I take less time on the lane of opposite traffic. Sure I can pass him at the speed limit of 80km/h but it is going to take longer.
@@MrMyStyle69 - BS - if a car is driving 40 in a 50 and you try to pass at 50, it takes several seconds to pass, leaving you in the danger zone for longer than if you made the pass at 70-80 and got out of the danger zone much more quickly. People who think like you should not be allowed to drive until you have been trained.
not on every autobahn the speed limit is unlimited. 130 kph for the most part, only some autobahns have sections where you can go unlimited
after driving across the country twice at well over the little numbers say to go, and having zero issues, all i can say is, the people who were the most dangerous were people on the interstate looking at their phones.
The interstate that stretches all the way across idaho, i-84, is 85 mph the whole way
Really? When did they change that? Last time I was up that way last summer it was only 80, slowing down to 65 around Boise…
I was traveling around 88-89mph about 60miles before Boise heading north at like 3am, and a cop in the median just flashed his headlights at me to slow down. Speed limit was definitely 80mph then.
It’s kinda wild how many people are mad about speed caps, blaming accidents on other factors. As someone whose uncle was killed in an accident, speeding is absolutely a factor. I feel people need to realize just how much control you have over other peoples’ lives when you’re behind the wheel. Be safe. Go the speed limit. Don’t drive when tired or inebriated. Don’t use your phone while driving. Pay attention to your surroundings.
Most accidents involve at least one car going 15% above or below the speed limit, make sure you are following the rules of the road.
just a few weeks ago a czech guy hit 408 km/h on a german autobahn.
he faced some critisism and they tried to charge him for reckless driving but in the end nothing happend.