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- Today we're taking a look at the Forge World range of Astra Militarum vehicles and infantry, and good lord are there some quality models in that list!
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Churchill Crocodile was a tank with a added flamer with the fuel in a trailer
David Fletcher did a great video on the Crocodile th-cam.com/video/dfTZEsMh0oM/w-d-xo.html
indeed! matter of fact I've heard some claim it was the most effective battlefield weapon of ww2 just cause of how scary it was
@@freewillgeorge a flamer was supper scary and if it got close enough to turn on the flamer and you was indoor double toasty dead . outdoor you might be able to duck to cover and survive badly burnt.
problem whit the flamer and even on a flame tank was.
1 massive fuel tanks (not good) if they got shoot it ether started to leak fuel and that could stop the flamer from working at all and then there now fuel everywhere and a lot of open flames.... not pleasant for the guy holding the flamer or the guys nearby at worse boom the flamer boy is now gone,
2: a flamer can´t burn for a long time maybe a few seconds at best.... that was the full backpack and the range is insultingly short ok a lot longer then what video games makes it out to be but still short compared to the range of a combat rifle/carbine or even a shotgun.
3: this is for infantry I presume the tanks had a simular issue.
in order for a flame thrower to be effective they need to have a small flame at the end of the fuel sprewer end.
a lighter could do in a pinch (dont use a limb you care about to hold the lighter).
the US put whats best described as a revolver flare light at the end.
and when you was about to burn something you light it and started to spew fire in 5 sec or so or you needed to light another flare. if you for some reason manage to used up all flares in the revolver drum, you now had a fuel spewer and not a flamethrower.
didn't the sherman also have a flamethrower variant but with internal fuel? Also the soviets did a bunch of flamethrower tanks
@@addedcheese yes and if I remember correct that version was called the Crocodile.
11:30 There was indeed a Churchill hull variant with an in-built +sized flamethrower. It was called the Crocodile, and everyone who used the thing loved it. It actually had more firepower than the model you’re looking at right now, it had it’s machine gun, on top of it’s main gun, on top of it’s hull-mounted flamethrower, and the crews liked to use every single one at once. Things were well put together, and it had enough armor that that said crews were usually (relatively) safe. The Crocodile actually proved more effective when it started spitting fire out of range, because the Germans tended to surrender rather than try to fight it.
Dashiell Gillingham there is also the Flampanzers and of course the Sherman crocodile. Also the Japanese SSD. Flametanks were a fad. Oh and the T-34 had a flame variant. And the KV 8
Remember that the reason the Germans surrendered was because they were used exclusively where they didn't have anti tank guns or tanks, any tank would have rolled over the German postions
The Valkyrie Skytalon is a unique vehicle for the Elysian Drop Troops. It functioned similarly to the regular Valkyrie but carried either two Sentinels or one of the Taurus buggies. Sadly you can’t use it outside the Elysians. I’ve got one which I’m converting up to carry one of the plastic Munitorum Armoured Containers. In games, I plan to use it as a regular Valkyrie for rule of cool.
And/or cut some openings on the side of the armoured container, get some punishers and valkyrie gunner crew and got yourself a vulture!
"What more could you ask for from an Imperium vehicle?" That the wings be put on the right way.
Gorgon is very WW2 landing/Higgins boat and I love how Forge World uses the same base frame for so many different variations again very real-world military.
And compared to what the range used to, no Elysians, Griffons, the OG Shadowsword & Baneblade (which didn't have a stupid church on the back), the Omega Machrius, Kreig Grenadiers, Bags and Storage, random accessories etc they've gutted the Guard range and not added anything new to replace it. There hasn't been anything that wasn't a Space Marine in god knows how long. Forgeworld used to be where I went to get all the cool unusual Guard stuff, now... Marines and more Marines (Just what GW needs more bloody marines)
The Trojan gives a guard Tank 're rolls to hit. I use it as a Shadowsword 're rolling machine. It works wonders
"You have this, and then... available to the Imperium as well you have jet bikes and hover tanks... and then you have this. You have weapons that fire black holes. Actual black holes. And then you have the Minotaur, which is just two massive cannons on tracks... It's such a like, mad mix of the oldest tech with the most scifi stuff. It's so good." This sums up the Imperium beautifully.
Regular guardsman: Nooo! You cannot simply use highly specialized vehicles just to throw them at the enemy!
Death Korps of Krieg trooper: (Muffled gasmask noises) Hehe, Macharius goes BRRRRRRRRRRT!
I still miss the Elysian drop sentinels.
Sisters of battle need a macarius with a war hound's inferno cannon as a lord of war option.
Also I see you like the brrrrrrrt tank too!
Edit: yes the churchill had 2 flamethrower variants, as did many other vehicles such as the sherman and panzer 2 and 3. Flamethrower tanks were relatively common. Americans like to nickname ours Ronson or Zippo.
There was also a flamethrower version of the L3/33 tankette
The Sisters need a lot of things. I'd take a Banesword, make it look like a cathedral and stick a pair of Inferno Cannons on it and make that a unit for them.
Yeah, the Sisters of battle having a heavy tank with Vulcan Mega Bolters or inferno cannon would awesome .
@@duncanmcokiner4242 I like the way you think. Just make all the hull weapons various flamers and bolters and boom done
@@emile1365 The Repressor should remain being a step up from the Rhino but a step down from the Immolator. They should get a Rhino based tank but it should be more inline with the Baal Predator. Their heavy tank should not be a Rhino as none of Rhino have armour thick enough (90mm plus), they should have one that is along the line of the Malcador and Macharius heavy tanks but outfitted to fit in with the holy trinity of bolter, flamer, and melta.
does anyone remember the salamander scout tank? l loved that model too bad they don't sell it anymore
They do. I saw it there yesterday. Must have brought it back as it's still up there on the UK online shop.
I got one of those for 30$ 😁😁 a buddy of mine who was getting out of the hobby sold it off to me along with a basilisk, 2 chimeras and a hellhound.
@@emile1365 Or your own 3D printer if you feel so inclined, as well as the rest of the GW and FW range of minis.
I think the imperial bombards gun is an inspiration mix of the Karl Gerät 040 and the BL 9.2 inch howitzer
The Astra Militarum remind me of the soldiers from the film Aliens. Sort of modern day soldiers with futuristic versions of weaponry and vehicles we have today.
Seeing this range review makes me sad realizing how many models forgeworld has dropped from production. I especially miss the macharius omega. Loved the video though mate keep it up! Macharius vulcan is scary though. 30 shots at s6 ap-2 d2 shreds teqs easily.
MLG Fuser I still have mine at my parents mostly unbuilt
Gorgons are not silly. Not at all.
In the grimdark dystopian future, packing poorly equipped and expendable footsoldiers into an armored box that speeds headfirst into enemy lines with a front opening door is the most economically feasible option.
This is peak grimdank scifi.
Drop the front door and let the enemy hose you before you can get out, all the others have rear hatches for good reason.
The Cyclops demolition vehicle is also based in reality. In Ww2 Germany used remote controlled bombs that ran on tracks called "Goliaths".
Fun fact the Thunderbolt and the Avenger are based on the P-51 Mustang and F4U Corsair fighters planes respectively
The Macarius Vanquisher is a beast. Unlike the Leman Russ Vanquisher you get HE shells for smashing squads. It also does much more work against armor thanks to the twin guns. Much fun.
Me: ah finally I finished my models! *looks at money* huh I have enough for a new box *realises that both gw and forge world are closed* oh oh ok😅😅😅😭😭😭😭😭
Churchill crocodile had a hull mounted flame thrower in addition to it's turret cannon. It also used a bowser of flamer fuel towed behind the tank.
I bought a Malcador Annihilator tank, a few years ago and assembled it for my Chaos Militia, but I haven't used it for game. I bought Imperial Armour: War machines of the lost and damned back in 2014 for the rules of the Malcadors, along with more Chaos Space Marines and Daemons rules, except they didn't have any for the Annihilator pattern! Which meant I would have to get the Astra Militarum version of Imperial Armour.
I also remember that Forge World used to sell the interior of the Chimera, along with a Kasrkin storm trooper tank commander, a Commissar for the tank hatch and more tank crews.
I love the Imperiums' old mother green and her killing machine.
Ah yes, the Marauder Destroyer, the attack aircraft whose nose guns eject their shells *directly into its own engines*.
Possibly the only worse design in the Imperium is the Taurox.
The little OOP dune buggy is the Tauro*s* (get an Achilles Ridgerunner!)
Plot twist: this is a recording of an actual Departamento Munitorum official revewing trial entries.
The Stromblade's coaxial bolter to the left of the main gun is peak Imperium. It is mounted to the casemate and isn't in a ball mount or something. It's useless and so gloriously IG
TBF, I think a lot of these are more 'self-propelled artillery' than tanks.
It always gives me such a huge amount of joy watching you getting a huge amount of joy when you watch Warhammer models. And then I always observe myself getting even more joy of watching Warhammer models myself. It's a vicious circle of joy.
As someone who had the finances (at the time), I got myself a small Elysian army, including the dune buggy type things. They are really awesome! I'm so gutted they decided to discontinue them.
Remember Kiri, back when the Valkyrie was first produced, it was FW-only. I think the original Vulture was bits from FW's resin Valkyrie, and then the custom Vulture stuff. I'm guessing it's changed since FW sacked off the resin Valkyrie.
i miss the old lighting design, RIP Flying Aquila
Ok I am not the only one who is going crazy because I cant buy Gw modells
Blood angel same, worst part is I was getting ready to finally have my army painted, went to open my paints, and realised I was completely out of my armies primary colour, this all occurring the day after gw closed it distribution centres
not me but wait a week or so until im out of stuff to build.
Just consume product, get excited for next product
I'm planning a WW1 themed imperial guard army, planned out a converted Mark V tank as a shadowsword but completely have fallen in love with the malcador tanks, use those as leman russ alternatives! What absolute delight
Now THIS is my jam! I love your other videos, but this is the one area of Forge world I have spent a bit too much money. The gorgon is actually hell to put together. Lots of thin large panels that warp. It was the hardest to build forge world kit I’ve ever done. The praetor is designed so you can either have the back open or closed it has a slide arm inside and is a great model. But, my all-time favourite is the infernus utterly ridiculous and do check out its rules! I can send pictures of mine if you want
In the imperial armor book you can put guns on an avid lander.
Marauder bomber has to be my favourite. I'm a sucker for aerial stuff in 40k and WW2.
The entire Macharius line is definitely number 1 followed by the Marauders and Thunderbolt.
The Sky Talon is fun, except FW discontinued every vehicle it can carry - the Taurus, Taurus Venator, and Sentinel Power Lifter, if I remember right.
That IG Praetor is just the 41st milleniums version of MLRS, grid square removal baby
When the Astra Militarum vehicles look cooler
*Confused Adeptus Astartes noises*
I love the navy fliers. I've got several valkyries a vulture and two avengers to back up my scions. Overall not the most effective units on the tabletop but they look so cool. Hoping to get the rest of the fliers at some point. Including the voss lightning which isn't in the guard list on FW anymore for some reason. Good review though mate
love the flyers on fw i was fortunate in finding 2 of the original style lightning fighters
The Crassus is my fav. I own one and it's just a giant brick of resin, so cool
The Malcador is just straight up a giant italian L3/35 flamethrower tankette for me
Fun fact: The Leman Russ base chassis is literally just a British WW1 tank with a turret.
As a proud owner of a Macharius Vulkan, I have to say its one of the best and coolest kits from FW.. extra awesomeness if driven by a DkoK commander!
Mortars and physical artillery are useful because they can fire beyond line of sight. Also, they throw fragments around.
At 1:18, when you say half sci-fi/half WWII, the phrase you're looking for is "Weird War II." Dust 1947 embodies that phrase resolutely, but a lot of the Astra Militarum certainly does as well.
Diesel punk?
I have The Maurader destroyer and used it on a board and it is a beast. Those Hunter killer missiles turn anything into a smoking rubble pile
Dude your videos are really making this isolation thing a whole lot more entertaining, especially happy getting my Warhammer fix over this period. Thanks Kirioth, keep em coming!
12:30 So basically, what makes 40K great is income inequality.
So many awesome models. Thanks for making these range review videos. Keep up the good work.
Imperial Guard tanks all look like the interwar tanks, when people saw tanks as the future of warfare but had no practical idea of what would work.
Marauder Destroyer is reminiscent of A26 Marauder attack bomber of WW2 era which was equipped with 8 browning M2 50 Cal machineguns in the nose.
Also the cyclops is based on a the German goliath tracked mine
I wish I had *all the money* and could put together a Genestealer Cult army featuring a fair few of these…
Some of these would be great with a Death Guard army. Bit of converting and lots of rust.
Next episode: "Building a FW Macharius Vulcan"
I feel like 40k has a medieval philosophy of the knight in full plate armor with a ornate artisancrafted tabard on top and you go to battle in a linnen jacket, a metal hat an the shit you bring from home. "the people on top get the fancy stuff and you get the most barest of minimums"
My first ever metal model was an old school 4 barrel thudd gun
Problem with the Macharias Heavy and Vanquisher is that they don't have an equivalent to a Leman Russ' Grinding Advance rule that lets them fire twice, which means having two of the same gun doesn't really mean much. You basically pay about two-thirds more points and a Lord of War slot in order to have autocannon or lascannon sponsons (which you also have to pay for), the ability to move full speed without loosing firepower and about half again a Leman Russ' wound count. Taking two Russes is generally a better option.
The Macharius Vulcan meanwhile is substantially better than a Leman Russ Punisher against well-armoured or W2 models, so it fills a different niche and is worth bringing. Plus it looks the coolest of the three while IIRC also being the cheapest in points!
I do like that these designs are pretty much all related to the death korps of kreig and how basically all their armament is all old tech and they are still (after cadia for everyone's opinions but mine) one of the most bad ass and strong guard regiment's
The reason Armageddon gear get fully enclosed compartment is due to the toxic environment.
take the navy marauder .reverse the canopy, engines , missiles.the tail to act as a canard. to fly backwards, would be badass as hell
about the artemia-- they prime their stuff grey sometimes
Id LOVE to run all the FW stuff as Vostroyans, with solar auxilla as Tempestus Scions!
It would fit in as Vostroyans are very old and reinforce their regiments and Maybe take good care of their stuff.
They pass down their guns to their next generations as eirloum weapons....
'Konrad Curze getting drilled'... sounds Slaneshy...
Valdor is the best tank for the simple reason that it explodes on 2+
Infernus seems fun to table too.
I think the carriages would look good with a praetorian army, in my mind it would suit the victorian aesthetics of the regiment
Yes there was a flamethrower version of the Churchill, didn't look quite as insane as the malcador though
Trojan gives re-roll to hit to a single vehicle including LOW. You can stack it with the Salamander Command Vehicle and give it (your LOW) +1 to hit rolls too. I'm not sure if you could pair this with a Shadowsword for +2 to hit re rolling against Titanic targets. The Trojan holds 6 dudes, pack it with tech priests and leash it to your LOW
The churchill crocodile was the tank with the flame thrower and in fact did tow a armored fuel trailer
The Trojan used to give a load of bonuses to artillery back in older editions. It’s the reason I own three of them... Now days I only trot them out for apocalypse games.
Macharius's lack the special rule that lets leman russ' shoot twice, so with 2 guns it's basically the shooting profile of one russ with the wounds of 2 and the points of 2
plenty of ww2 tanks had versions with flame throwers. my favorite is the kv-1. man i love kv-1 in any case i wish i had one
Imperium uses horse Calvary armed with lances which is would have dated back to when the Emperor was a actual child in terms of when it was first used.
The Malcador Infernus (flame tank) is probably visually most closely related to the L3 Lf an World War 2 Italian flame tankette; Flamethrower mounted in the hull on the left, no turret, with fuel trailer. Though the infernus is significantly larger
Those are 6 autocannons in the nose of the marauder destroyer
i think every Warhammer faction wants to get hold of a specific group of people.
The Tau are some sort of Gundam/Japan/Samurai style and Space Marines are like the Terrans from Starcraft and the Astra Militarum are for those who are in the WW1 and WW2 stuff but want there stuff a but spiced up. i mean the "Armageddon Pattern Basilisk" 26:42 is hard inspired from the german Panzerjäger Ferdinand.
Thats why i dont like those debats about like, for example, "Tau dont belong to the "grimdark universe" of Warhammer" and for me, Astra Militarum is for the WW1 and WW2 fanboys^^
Whilst the Churchill crocodile had a flame thrower with a fuel trailer the Infernus with its big flame thrower and no turret reminds me more of th Italian L3 Lf. They have one at Bovington.
You can take one of the following:twin multi laser,twin auto cannons,two twin hvy stubbers,or two backstroke missles.
I miss the Macharius Omega...
I miss the old lightning strike fighters
The big flamethrower tank is definitely based on the L3/33 tankette
Not seen some of the macro sized weapon systems current armies employ?
The AC-130 springs to mind, since it's carrying and can fire multiple howitzers at the same time, all on a plane initially meant for carrying cargo.
There are many, many examples out there, that will put these to shame if they were scaled against each other properly.
I have and use the macharius vanquisher regularly to good effect as a tank hunter it lives a little longer than my leman russ vanquisher but generally is a good tank but the Vulcan variant is perfect for mowing down infantry lol
I'm in the process of painting a macharius for a commission.
They are packed fun of detail, but boy are they a chunky lump of resin to hold
The arvus flyer are part of my fluff for the fall of cadia, love the wee thing and can't wait to own one
ForgeWorld: Sneezes
Price: 3 digits
I too have this bizarre need to obtain plastic....
The malcdors feel more like a souvenir to me than a distinct tank
Arvus lighter is a civilian aircraft essentially. All over the place in the Rogue trader setting.
Tthe crew of the drill saw corswain attacked The Knight Haunter and said, "You know, I love Corswain, but I think we can do better."(Corswain stabbed Konrad on Tugulasa during the Thramas Campaign and rode him like a bull rider in savage weapons)
I prefer the preator to the manticore. The manticore feels like a modern SAM site. Its not sci fi or ww2. But thar preator that is a sexy beast
That marauder bomber looks based on the Arado AR 234...
The Macharius and Malcador tanks have always been my preferred 40K tanks. Never been a fan of the Leman Russ or Baneblade tanks.
I hate the fact that there is a literal face of an minion on the minotaur side xD it can never be unseen
One thing that bothers me is that there’s barely any attempt to protect the tracks on most the tanks. Personally I’d customize some armored protection for the upper part of the tracks... at least to make them more ww2-ish than ww1-ish
you can put additional armour over the top of the tracks, it makes it much easier to work on the tracks and get it back in action after all the crew are dead 🤪
11:32 Was the churchill crocodile
the gorgon being a ww2 landing craft but on land with more guns and almost the being as big as a baneblade.
I bought a Macharius Vulcan a few years a go and was pretty disappointed with it. I couldn't get any of the parts to straighten out using hot water or a heat gun.