25:41 This is absolutely the correct analogy. At any point in this clusterfuck of a Mistake-Combo he could have dropped his combo and minimized the damage done. Instead it's like he's trying to do the most damage possible by doing every wrong thing he can.
Accident investigators have a term for this, it's called the Swiss cheese model. Every mistake is like putting a slice if Swiss cheese in a row, and the holes of each slice will line up, until we get to the accident/incident.
The crazy thing about this is imagine if it were to happen in a climate like the titanic did, with no help for 100 miles in artic conditions... that captain is actually so lucky
Whats shitty is there was a boat within signal distance of the Titanic that turned off their telegraph because the operator on Titanic yelled at him. Its debated that more lives could of been saved if the Californian decided to go to the Titanic when they saw signal flairs in the distance
Here is something shitty to think about. Everyone who died on the ship. Died because the captain wanted to show boat with a helmsman that couldn't speak English or Italian.
@@poccer7722 they did cut costs... on the black box... on the fan for the back up system... on the emergency door that didn't close properly. It looks to me that a LOT of vital system broke.
damn, I wouldn't let these people near my 1$ self-made raft! how tf the guy who literally rammed the port on previous ship got control over a larger stupidly more expensive ship is beyond me!
11:45 The Internet Historian clarifies this on the Q&A, but basically they needed to *not* keep turning the boat away from the rocks to avoid the rocks, in order to prevent the rear of the ship from skidding onto the rocks. So the helmsman needed to do a non-intuitive maneuver that required naval knowledge to understand. The Captain understood how to do this maneuver and relayed correct orders, but the helmsman either did what he thought he should, which was wrong, or genuinely didn't hear.
Considering people on the bridge were constantly mishearing orders and correcting themselves, it's no surprise he did what made the most sense to him in his limited knowledge after hearing the captain telling him to turn towards the rocks and not away from them.
It didnt need to be clarified in the Q&A, its explained perfectly well in this video. Asmon is an idiot and would have made the exact same mistake if he were steering the ship.
The helmsman didn't turn towards the rocks, he actually turned away from the rocks not realizing that in order for the ship to swing around the rocks it has to have the rudder turn to midship. It is common sense that you should turn away from the rocks, and that's what he did. However, in this case, it was wrong.
I'm almost convinced the captain was hoping that everybody would just stay on the ship and then freeze to death in the water while he made his very dashing and incredibly heroic escape. To another country.
@@SuperUltimateLP More of a danger with whirlpools. I believe I read somewhere that one french guy was sucked under and died after he gave his wife his lifevest and made the decision to try and swim to shore. Not sure if that's true or not, but whirlpools do form in events like this, hence why falling overboard can be particularly lethal. (As if the drop itself wasn't already)
@@Lewtable It's a documented effect of water displacement. The movement of water caused by, say, a ship sinking, can quite literally pull you down with it.
I love how Asmon mentions the Tower of Babel as an opening comment and 5 minutes later Internet Historian mentions the language barrier, that’s really poetic
The thing is, if the captain hadn't lied so much, he wouldn't even have been that much to blame. His orders would have kept the ship at a safe enough distance if they hadn't been been fucked up by the helmsman (who I think was hired by the company, not the captain) so many times. He would still be in trouble, but there would have been less casualties, and less blame on him. Also, 16:44 I think it's hard to find anything that would be watertight after being smashed into rocks with enough force to move a giant ship.
Yeah exactly! I got the impression his reluctance to admit the situation was because he didn't want to appear at fault, but literally anything would have been better than what he ended up doing.
It wasn’t just his lis though, it was the failure of his actions in that he refused to sound a general alarm fast enough, had very little grasp of the situation, didn’t seem to know or follow any emergency procedures and abandoned the ship before the crew or passengers were all accounted for and taken off... Every one of his actions during the sinking was wrong, not just the fact he was lying the whole time. All of the deaths occurred after the collision, not during, and most of them were from downing due to the fact they kept having to move the passengers from side to side of the ship as it started to sink, and people either tried to swim or were thrown from the ship due to the listing and etc. Almost all the deaths can be attributed to a lack of safety and control of the captain (many of the crew were actually doing their jobs and helping and organizing passengers) not calling a general alarm immedialtey and the failure and cocking up of procedure that proceeded the collision.
Yeah but this habit of coming close to the coast to horn and meme it a bit is so cancerous here in italy. This isn't the only time it went badly, and even when it goes smoothly it just annoys everyone and ruins the view in many city for what? To make your rich ass customers slightly hyped about how rich they are?
helmsman fucking up wouldn't have mattered if they followed procedure anyway, because Schettino would have known their correct position and navigated properly in the first place. He was the captain. It was on him to run his bridge properly.
If he hadn't fucked off he would've probably had even less issues. There's a reason a captain doesn't leave the ship until he makes sure people are off of the ship. Guy deserved a much, much harsher sentencing imho, 30 people died because this asshole didn't help with the rescue efforts, even halting them by lying.
@11:59 The helmsmen turned right, the rocks are are on the left. But he needed to turn left (towards the rocks) to swing the boats rear side away from the rocks. You've probably also seen that in Valhiem, funnily enough.
As a (ret.) junior naval officer who's stood on the bridge of a ship using all these commands, this entire event just kills me. Such basic bridge crew mistakes and it cost hundreds of millions. Edit: And lives, can't believe I forgot to mention that bit. Fuck the money, these people got others killed for not being able to navigate a goddamn pleasure cruise or organize an orderly evacuation.
My dad was a Military Navy Captain of a Frigate. God rest his soul, I would've shown him this and we would've had a good laugh. He always told me there's a reason most Officers(the real good ones down the line) went through all the posts in their first years, as a sort of an "intern" thing, from Cadets to Helmsmen, Petty officers and so forth. So as to gain a better understanding of the roles, to help them grow and if they reach higher posts, like Captain, to better and more efficiently organize the men and women under their command. He'd tell me out of all of them, Captain was probably the most challenging. Not because of one thing, but because you had to factor in so much stuff while being the brain of the whole operation, to keep the staff in check. Sometimes he'd spend days without sleeping just to make sure everything runs smoothly for everyone else. I never went his path, but he taught me what the burden of real Leadership is, and I'm grateful for it.
Former enlisted navigator here, and I can guarantee that if any OOD were to give orders that put the ship in danger, every enlisted man on the bridge is calling their department head to get that fucker gone. Luckily, every officer I worked with was reasonable and took suggestions from the bridge crew seriously. The problem here was lack of training and overconfidence. I've seen hubris bring down more people than anything because they can't admit they've made a mistake and ask for help.
Even people can be translated to monetary value; you keep customers happy, you have more costumers in the future, you build a better reputation; you prioritize people in moments of distress, you have less lawsuits, less money towards life insurance, injury insurance, keep reputation high. No matter from what side you see this, you protect people. Or perhaps I'm being too naive.
Fun fact: cruises have a big audience among the elderly, likely out of a desire to have a grand vacation while they still can. And probably also because their age gives them less incentive to save money.
@@TheWaslijn It's become such a common occurrence on some cruise lines that you will literally not notice if someone else died because the crew dealt with it so quickly. It honestly doesn't seem like a bad way to go out.
Not really a old person thing. The main reason anyone goes on a cruise is really simple: Tons of booze and food. Gluttony with a nice view. I've known people who gained like 10lbs on a week long trip hung over.
The older you get the more likely you are to be unwilling or unable to go places in full adventure mode. In my case, I'm young but I have a few severe allergies which would make it very uncomfy to visit some countries in Asia without knowing the language. While on a cruise ship you can have Western food or get information on the food in most languages and then venture out in a different country every day. Anyways not that I'll have the money for that anytime soon. But it's still wild to think this ship this size for sure had translators on board for passengers, yet the captain couldn't communicate 100% with his own colleague.
One misconception I kinda feel bad about is the thought that it's just uber rich people who go on cruises. Maybe that may be true for super mega ultra luxury liners like this, but a lot of clients I have who are mostly paycheck to paycheck use a cruise on like a Carnival or something as a, compared to other options, relatively cheap and mostly hassle free way to spend the rare vacation they can afford.
Yeah, the Color Line cruises that go Norway-Denmark and Norway-Germany are pretty much 200€ weekend tours. (You can of course schedule the return later so you can hang around in the deep south of Kiel, Germany if you want to). It's cheap, it's fun, and 90% of the clientele are wonderful, social security clients who are absolutely in the best mood of their lives because they're actually going to have a good time for once. And if you buy enough stuff in the tax-free, you get your next cruise free/at a severe discount. It's a fun time, comes recommended, just don't pretend you're high class while you do it.
Think I saw someone mention this before. Putting it here just in case. Staff hiring and the building of the ship are seperate cases. They are handled by two different groups who have their own strategies. Ship building group obviously does everything they can with no expenses spared. Hiring group not so much. They will do what they can to cut corners and hire staff with ease and cost in mind. The position of captain is also a PR thing considering he is to meet with guests during dinner and moments where they feel they have the time to walk the decks. May not be entirely true, but this is my understanding. Correct me on the bits where I'm wrong so people know better than me.
I mean, they might be separate but they must know about each other right? The hiring staff should know the sheer size of the ship right? Plus, how much of a corner did they cut that they managed to hire an Indonesian man to handle a ship captained by an italian man?
It's depend how the company work,sometimes they do both hiring and construction. But yeah likely they got the crew by 3rd party that is usually nepotism and corrupt way
The mayor of the town is probably the one that has the bell hangin in his house. That’s like the equivalent of having your enemies balls hanging from your fireplace for him.
If anyone asked, the captain's last name kinda sounds like "skotina", which in Russian can roughly be translated as "douchebag". Fitting name, I guess OMEGALUL
At the time this happened I lived in a small town on top of a hill in Tuscany with walls all around it and from the bulwarks you could actually see the ship going down, as this town is like right in front of the island of Giglio, was pretty fucking horrifing to see
56:19 SailorVince said that when one works in the Coast Guard, information from the CAPTAIN is ESSENTIAL to avoid any rescuing errors. So him using his gut feeling and conducted the rescue was quite the risk and he did it. He did it well!!! 👏 👏👏👏
If she had his back he'd be able to see the island the better but after hearing her speak using her psychological brain now that totally explains the captain
it's insane how internet historian story telling style is by animates stock footage so good that he make us forgot that he basically just animating stock footages
You know what's even funnier? Once he got out of prison (early) he was called to participate in a reality show called "Isola dei famosi". He was paid over 2 million for being there in this show where a bunch of famous people are left alone on a deserted island after a fake ship wreck 🤦🏻♂️
12:00 I think he misunderstood that. It's just not intuitive at the moment. The stones were on the left and the (correct) command was to steer to the left so that the rear of the ship can swing around them. It is of course counter intuitive to steer "into the stones".
For anyone who has any boating experience, it's intuitive, my family holds shares on a syndicate boat and each time we spend a week or two on it we see first time users on hireboats that end up bumping the back end cause they're not used to the concept of the back end being the steering end, they don't realise how widely the stern swings out. As a helmsman he should have known that though.
lucky the passenger does not listen to authority and think on their own. during Sinking of MV Sewol, most of the dead are school children that listen to the captain and stayed in their cabin. those that disobeyed survive while those that obeyed died.
That's why it's so important to think for yourself. Let's ignore for a moment that people are dumb, corrupt or just evil. Even if the captain in this case was well-intending, he could still make mistakes of judgement. Same with any other figures of authority.
That's what happens when you grow up in a harshly authoritarian society that shame and quashes childhood rebellion at every turn. Ya get dead kids. I hope the survivors got therapy and carried that disaster as a lesson to teach everyone they knew for the rest of their lives. I want THOSE kids to grow up to be politicians!
"imagine sailing out there to loot the ship!!" - ship is literally 300 meters from town, and like 27 meters away from land lol you can basically walk up to ship xD xD sailing out there lmao
@@goranmatuzalem9574 Most of the ship was filled with water....... Also YOU would still need to HAVE fucking boat to get to the ship. I would like to see you walk there. The people on the ship STILL had to get on lifeboats to get away. If they could of walked to shore either no one would of died or just a lot less.
How fitting to start this video with the Tower of Babel and then language barrier ending up being the ships downfall. A real double whammy on gods part.
Internet Historian's videos are pretty much the only videos I could watch over and over and not ever get tired of them. I've never felt that way about a content creator before; his videos are just that entertaining to watch.
That line about Schettino tripping and falling into a lifeboat was NOT a joke, that was his genuine excuse. "He told investigating magistrate Valeria Montesarchio: ‘The passengers were rushing all over the decks trying to scramble into the lifeboats. I didn’t even have a life jacket because I had given it to one of the passengers - I was trying to get them into the lifeboats in an orderly fashion. All of a sudden the boat listed between 60-70 degrees. I tripped and ended up in one of the lifeboats. That’s why I was in there.’" Source: Daily Mail
"Why do you need a theatre in a boat?" Well, admittedly... if I ever lived on a boat, like, as my house... I'd -love- to have a sorta home-theatre on it, so I could use it for watching movies/playing games. I mean, if it were my house. 'v'
The couple who slept through it...how? No, I want to know because by the end of it the ship was horizontal. That means they'd have been dumped out of bed onto the floor then eventually onto a wall which had become the new floor.
@@Redstripe921 The ship listed rather slowly so falling hard enough to be knocked out is probably out but the sleeping meds is genius. I bet you're right, you have to be.
LOL the kitchen was having fun panicing people with the titanic song... that made my day. someone in that kitchen knew his job and had been waiting for this moment his entire career.
I really like his réaction, pausing when he want to talk, or even returning backward to re-heard it, WE feel him into it and I love it. Keep up thé good work
17:05 I can confirm this for container transports. My father is the captain of a container transport and he explained that if you can only get away with scraped paint, if circumstances make maneuvering into port challenging, like in Vladivostok, where ice builds up quickly and can alter the ship's movement based on wind direction. If you lose a few containers / crash the ship at port due to a maneuvering mistake, there's a 95% chance that you'll get fired and you might catch a legal case to boot.
Lifeboats are not made for everyone to board, they are to ferry people from the sinking ship to a rescue ship. Hence why most boats don’t have “enough” lifeboats
This is kinda true but not really, you need to have a seat in a life vessel for everyone onboard. 75% has to be boats, and the rest can be inflatable rafts. The problem is though that it means that if you can't launch them from one side then you're missing spaces for 37.5% of your passenger capacity and if your captain is a tool then those life rafts for the last 25% won't be ready in time. Couple that with panic and your life boats will have at best a third, but more likely a fourth, of your needed capacity.
@@volundrfrey896 i thought the comment was BS, but then you explained it.... damn, that's so fcked up. imagine if you're on a trans-atlantic cruise and the crew goes "ahh man... sorry but we're out of lifeboats..... but hey! here's a pool floatie you can row around in! don't worry about the massive waves and freezing temperatures"
@@DennisHeikki yeah, my advise is that if something happen on a ship then just leave all your stuff and make it onto deck as quickly as possible. Probably there will be enough space for you, but better safe than sorry. If your captain is a dumbass then there might not be, and dumbasses makes their way into positions of power all the time, take [insert any politician here] for example.
This is how they were thought to be used at the time of titanic but after that and some subsequent wrecks they determined at least for transatlantic ships they needed enough for everyone to wait out a rescue.
@@DennisHeikki They're... they're not "pool floaties", you numbskull. They have chemical reactants to instantly inflate and are designed to keep you warm and dry in *exactly* that scenario. They're equipped with GPS tracking beacons, first aid, etc. etc.
The absolute hell of a rollercoaster your face endures throughout this whole thing is probably my favorite part of this. Second favorite is that the creator uses sims for faces. Incredible.
I don't know how many times i've watched this video now, i just love it XD Props to Internet Historian and Asmon both for coming together this beautfifully :)
Hey Asmon! You do actually have a small cameo as a character in another Internet Historian video in his second channel. Its about The Gentleman Pirate.
31:37 at that point it was almost certainly best that the captain just sat there and watched. He had done quite enough at that point and he knows damn good and well that those were his last moments as a normal person. I woulda sat there and watched it burn as well.
I need people to know JUST how epic De Falcos call was. My man was FURIOUS. 1) Vada a bordo, cazzo. 2) "Comandante Schettino lei adesso va a bordo e mi dice quante persone sono intrappolate su quella nave!!" = You will go back on board and tell me exactly how many people are trapped on that ship! 3) my personal favourite: "Lei si é forse salvato dal mare, ma io le faccio passare l'anima dei guai" Meaning "You may have saved yourself from the sea, but I will put you through hell" This man is A CHAD
The person who own this ship probably just said: get the cheapest crew and staff you possibly can, like why would you get a captain that sink 2 ship and a helmsman that work as a cleaner with a langguage barrier
One of my favorite quotes from the show Legion is when he says “Humanity once built a ladder so tall it nearly touched heaven but then god cursed us with different languages and misunderstanding”.
23:00 "That SO bad..." me: Its getting worse... soooo much worse XD I know, this was a tragedy but... the stupity of those involved defies all reason. Only thing you can do is laughing - otherwise you'd never stop crying.
As for the question of why cruise ships are so decked out, well, they've been around for a really long time. More than long enough for the law of one-upsmanship to kick in big time.
I will always remember this accident. My grandparents were on this ship... Just the trip before that one. I wil never forget my father face when his sister told him that the ship my grandpas traveled a week before sinked. He just said "Hell, why wouldn't they be in that one!". I am not kidding btw '^^
In case you don't know: The bell of a ship in Maritime culture is considered to have the ship's soul in it. So stealing the bell of it is actually pretty understandable, as long as you're aware of that history.
Salvaging a ship on site gets hilariously expensive. In WW1 Royal Navy had a Battleship called HMS Warspite. She was at the Battle of Jutland where she had so much fun kicking the crap out of the Germans, she came about and went back in for a 2nd time whether the crew wanted to or not and served right through WW2 were she pulled off the joint world record of longest main battery shell hit from ship to ship, scared the shit out of a bunch of German Destroyers hiding in a fjord waiting to ambush a bunch of British Destroyers they thought would come in after them except it was HMS Warspite with her 15" guns already pointed right at them that came barreling round the corner AND also took a direct hit from a fritz x anti ship missile that sank a far larger and far more modern Italian Battleship not that long before. She survived that and at the D-day landings she fired so many shells inland that she ran out of ammo, went home, got more, went back, fired all that off and wore out her guns so went home for more ammo and new gun barrels, went back out to find the Germans had the audacity to retreat inland out of range so...she flooded one side of the ship to lean over and get more elevation on the guns so she could keep shooting the Germans.(USS Texas pulled the same trick too. Another legend warship with attitude) This thing was a gangster of a warship. After WW2 the UK Gov made the criminal desicion to just scrap her and after an attempt by private parties and the public to raise money to have her preserved failed, she was towed off to the scrappers. Warspite had other ideas. She slipped her lines and ran aground. And so began the most costly Naval salvage operation there has ever been in British waters. A final "well fuck you very much ya bastids!" from a legendary warship 😂
whats funny is asmongold talks about the tower of babel where god punished man by introducing multiple languages so they could never build a tower like that again. then one of the problems that caused the Concordia to crash was the language barrier.
Refloating the concordia was an environmental concern. They don't necessarily want the ship back, they just don't want the ship decaying and polluting the place where it wrecked. All that fuel, oil, coolant, paints, and other synthetic materials breaking down in the ocean would pollute the local area for decades
So glad you're back dude
Very pog
Your the best Mr historian
So heartwarming ^_^
Hey whatever happened to the Concordia Q&A that was supposed to be realised? I’m guessing it was cut?
Is this the beginning of the youtube avengers?
25:41
This is absolutely the correct analogy.
At any point in this clusterfuck of a Mistake-Combo he could have dropped his combo and minimized the damage done.
Instead it's like he's trying to do the most damage possible by doing every wrong thing he can.
Now let's apply this logic to Activision-Blizzard and recent events surrounding this company.
Schettino really went ahead and pulled off a ToD on the Concordia
@@alekslic3385 bro I would love to hear what you think about blizzard now lmfaoo
@@joshdangit1612 nah... let's wait and see what happens next.
Accident investigators have a term for this, it's called the Swiss cheese model. Every mistake is like putting a slice if Swiss cheese in a row, and the holes of each slice will line up, until we get to the accident/incident.
The crazy thing about this is imagine if it were to happen in a climate like the titanic did, with no help for 100 miles in artic conditions... that captain is actually so lucky
Hes lucky that nearly everyone involved who wasnt on the bridge had seen shit go south, and immediately started preparing as such.
Whats shitty is there was a boat within signal distance of the Titanic that turned off their telegraph because the operator on Titanic yelled at him. Its debated that more lives could of been saved if the Californian decided to go to the Titanic when they saw signal flairs in the distance
There were so many mistakes made involved with the Titanic that its kind of astonishing that as many people survived at all!
Here is something shitty to think about. Everyone who died on the ship. Died because the captain wanted to show boat with a helmsman that couldn't speak English or Italian.
@@redgunnit what kind of mistakes? love this stuff. Didnt know about the operator who pretty much "hung up" on people in distress lmao.
i love when he went "wow his **girlfriend** is really loyal" and chat was just like "just wait" lmaoooo
This entire story was just full of plot twists it felt so surreal (and quite tragic) that this actually happened
*snort* Can’t wait to see how this goes
Bruh 😂😂😂 I read your comment and thought "did I miss that?" And then IMMEDIATELY asmond started tlaking about that 😂😂😂
*spends half a billion dollars on a boat*
*hires a guy from Indonesia so they can pay him minimum wage*
make it make sense
570 million USD on a boat, and they can't be bothered to crew it well paid experienced staff.
gotta cut costs somewhere I guess xD
They propably spend it all on fake japanese art and fake Swarowski- chandeliers.
@@poccer7722 they did cut costs... on the black box... on the fan for the back up system... on the emergency door that didn't close properly. It looks to me that a LOT of vital system broke.
@@frikabg Damn, that ship must've been a real steal huh
damn, I wouldn't let these people near my 1$ self-made raft! how tf the guy who literally rammed the port on previous ship got control over a larger stupidly more expensive ship is beyond me!
11:45 The Internet Historian clarifies this on the Q&A, but basically they needed to *not* keep turning the boat away from the rocks to avoid the rocks, in order to prevent the rear of the ship from skidding onto the rocks.
So the helmsman needed to do a non-intuitive maneuver that required naval knowledge to understand. The Captain understood how to do this maneuver and relayed correct orders, but the helmsman either did what he thought he should, which was wrong, or genuinely didn't hear.
Considering people on the bridge were constantly mishearing orders and correcting themselves, it's no surprise he did what made the most sense to him in his limited knowledge after hearing the captain telling him to turn towards the rocks and not away from them.
Murdoch was doing pretty much the same thing and was only a few crucial seconds too late :-(
That happens when you have an italian captain then hire a helmsman who doesn't speak neither english or italian. Honestly, wtf are they thinking?
It didnt need to be clarified in the Q&A, its explained perfectly well in this video. Asmon is an idiot and would have made the exact same mistake if he were steering the ship.
While not being a native italian speaker or even that good at speaking and understanding italian
The helmsman didn't turn towards the rocks, he actually turned away from the rocks not realizing that in order for the ship to swing around the rocks it has to have the rudder turn to midship. It is common sense that you should turn away from the rocks, and that's what he did. However, in this case, it was wrong.
On face value that sounds right, if you're helmsman of a cruise ship however you should probably know better
Except he wasn't a helmsman. He was a cleaner and it was his first time steering.
@@LonelyAncient "... a big ship."
He turned the ships arse right into the rocks.
@@murchada9170 yep
I'm almost convinced the captain was hoping that everybody would just stay on the ship and then freeze to death in the water while he made his very dashing and incredibly heroic escape. To another country.
Freezing water in italy O.o
I mean it can get cold but not to that degree.
@@SuperUltimateLP Or just drown MEGALUL
Sounds like he he studied PR at Donald Trump University.
@@SuperUltimateLP More of a danger with whirlpools. I believe I read somewhere that one french guy was sucked under and died after he gave his wife his lifevest and made the decision to try and swim to shore. Not sure if that's true or not, but whirlpools do form in events like this, hence why falling overboard can be particularly lethal. (As if the drop itself wasn't already)
@@Lewtable It's a documented effect of water displacement. The movement of water caused by, say, a ship sinking, can quite literally pull you down with it.
" I could really relate to this guy man. It happens. Now the thing is though, I had like 30 iron on board and not like 300 people."
"Oh its 3000 that even worse!"
I feel like sailing ashore is a right of passage in valheim. Iron aint gonna ship itself
@@Teh_Duck Yes indeed.
I love how Asmon mentions the Tower of Babel as an opening comment and 5 minutes later Internet Historian mentions the language barrier, that’s really poetic
Asmon watches these videos before hand, then comments on stream.
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@@jccuselldo people really believe this 😭
@@jccusell that would be a huge waste of time
The thing is, if the captain hadn't lied so much, he wouldn't even have been that much to blame. His orders would have kept the ship at a safe enough distance if they hadn't been been fucked up by the helmsman (who I think was hired by the company, not the captain) so many times. He would still be in trouble, but there would have been less casualties, and less blame on him.
Also, 16:44 I think it's hard to find anything that would be watertight after being smashed into rocks with enough force to move a giant ship.
Yeah exactly! I got the impression his reluctance to admit the situation was because he didn't want to appear at fault, but literally anything would have been better than what he ended up doing.
It wasn’t just his lis though, it was the failure of his actions in that he refused to sound a general alarm fast enough, had very little grasp of the situation, didn’t seem to know or follow any emergency procedures and abandoned the ship before the crew or passengers were all accounted for and taken off...
Every one of his actions during the sinking was wrong, not just the fact he was lying the whole time.
All of the deaths occurred after the collision, not during, and most of them were from downing due to the fact they kept having to move the passengers from side to side of the ship as it started to sink, and people either tried to swim or were thrown from the ship due to the listing and etc.
Almost all the deaths can be attributed to a lack of safety and control of the captain (many of the crew were actually doing their jobs and helping and organizing passengers) not calling a general alarm immedialtey and the failure and cocking up of procedure that proceeded the collision.
Yeah but this habit of coming close to the coast to horn and meme it a bit is so cancerous here in italy. This isn't the only time it went badly, and even when it goes smoothly it just annoys everyone and ruins the view in many city for what? To make your rich ass customers slightly hyped about how rich they are?
helmsman fucking up wouldn't have mattered if they followed procedure anyway, because Schettino would have known their correct position and navigated properly in the first place. He was the captain. It was on him to run his bridge properly.
If he hadn't fucked off he would've probably had even less issues. There's a reason a captain doesn't leave the ship until he makes sure people are off of the ship. Guy deserved a much, much harsher sentencing imho, 30 people died because this asshole didn't help with the rescue efforts, even halting them by lying.
@11:59 The helmsmen turned right, the rocks are are on the left. But he needed to turn left (towards the rocks) to swing the boats rear side away from the rocks. You've probably also seen that in Valhiem, funnily enough.
Not me crashing into a Plains area with bronze equipment and furs.
Valheim has that incorporated into the boat physics? Neat.
As an italian, I can confirm. We either under or overachieve.
As one, I concur 😂
As your neighbor I can very much confirm
Probably one of the most iconic events that happened in Italy. If someone acts like a scared ass foo, here in Italy we call him a "Schettino" 😂
@@mozzaplus yo, he did the schettino
You haven't overachieved since 2000 years ago my man
As a (ret.) junior naval officer who's stood on the bridge of a ship using all these commands, this entire event just kills me. Such basic bridge crew mistakes and it cost hundreds of millions. Edit: And lives, can't believe I forgot to mention that bit. Fuck the money, these people got others killed for not being able to navigate a goddamn pleasure cruise or organize an orderly evacuation.
My dad was a Military Navy Captain of a Frigate. God rest his soul, I would've shown him this and we would've had a good laugh. He always told me there's a reason most Officers(the real good ones down the line) went through all the posts in their first years, as a sort of an "intern" thing, from Cadets to Helmsmen, Petty officers and so forth. So as to gain a better understanding of the roles, to help them grow and if they reach higher posts, like Captain, to better and more efficiently organize the men and women under their command. He'd tell me out of all of them, Captain was probably the most challenging. Not because of one thing, but because you had to factor in so much stuff while being the brain of the whole operation, to keep the staff in check. Sometimes he'd spend days without sleeping just to make sure everything runs smoothly for everyone else.
I never went his path, but he taught me what the burden of real Leadership is, and I'm grateful for it.
Also if you don't use cheap labor that can't speak English this could also be avoided.
Dude turned getting fired into jail time.
Former enlisted navigator here, and I can guarantee that if any OOD were to give orders that put the ship in danger, every enlisted man on the bridge is calling their department head to get that fucker gone. Luckily, every officer I worked with was reasonable and took suggestions from the bridge crew seriously. The problem here was lack of training and overconfidence. I've seen hubris bring down more people than anything because they can't admit they've made a mistake and ask for help.
Even people can be translated to monetary value; you keep customers happy, you have more costumers in the future, you build a better reputation; you prioritize people in moments of distress, you have less lawsuits, less money towards life insurance, injury insurance, keep reputation high. No matter from what side you see this, you protect people. Or perhaps I'm being too naive.
Fun fact: cruises have a big audience among the elderly, likely out of a desire to have a grand vacation while they still can. And probably also because their age gives them less incentive to save money.
That, and some old people go on cruises to die, hence why most of them have a place to store dead bodies. lol
@@TheWaslijn It's become such a common occurrence on some cruise lines that you will literally not notice if someone else died because the crew dealt with it so quickly. It honestly doesn't seem like a bad way to go out.
Not really a old person thing. The main reason anyone goes on a cruise is really simple:
Tons of booze and food. Gluttony with a nice view.
I've known people who gained like 10lbs on a week long trip hung over.
If you break down the cost per day, it's cheaper than most hotels
The older you get the more likely you are to be unwilling or unable to go places in full adventure mode. In my case, I'm young but I have a few severe allergies which would make it very uncomfy to visit some countries in Asia without knowing the language. While on a cruise ship you can have Western food or get information on the food in most languages and then venture out in a different country every day. Anyways not that I'll have the money for that anytime soon. But it's still wild to think this ship this size for sure had translators on board for passengers, yet the captain couldn't communicate 100% with his own colleague.
One misconception I kinda feel bad about is the thought that it's just uber rich people who go on cruises. Maybe that may be true for super mega ultra luxury liners like this, but a lot of clients I have who are mostly paycheck to paycheck use a cruise on like a Carnival or something as a, compared to other options, relatively cheap and mostly hassle free way to spend the rare vacation they can afford.
Can confirm, cruises are a great time
I mean most of them aren't so absurdly reverse iceberg tall.
Even if the are rich people , you don't whish death to everyone.
"it's just uber rich people"
Mostly old timers who've had a lifetime of savings under their belt. Young rich people don't do cruises.
Yeah, the Color Line cruises that go Norway-Denmark and Norway-Germany are pretty much 200€ weekend tours. (You can of course schedule the return later so you can hang around in the deep south of Kiel, Germany if you want to).
It's cheap, it's fun, and 90% of the clientele are wonderful, social security clients who are absolutely in the best mood of their lives because they're actually going to have a good time for once.
And if you buy enough stuff in the tax-free, you get your next cruise free/at a severe discount. It's a fun time, comes recommended, just don't pretend you're high class while you do it.
Think I saw someone mention this before. Putting it here just in case. Staff hiring and the building of the ship are seperate cases. They are handled by two different groups who have their own strategies. Ship building group obviously does everything they can with no expenses spared. Hiring group not so much. They will do what they can to cut corners and hire staff with ease and cost in mind. The position of captain is also a PR thing considering he is to meet with guests during dinner and moments where they feel they have the time to walk the decks. May not be entirely true, but this is my understanding. Correct me on the bits where I'm wrong so people know better than me.
I think both cut corners, but especially the ship manufacturers. Just barely meeting regulators standards and what not.
@@Boobatube Good one 4heed
I mean, they might be separate but they must know about each other right? The hiring staff should know the sheer size of the ship right? Plus, how much of a corner did they cut that they managed to hire an Indonesian man to handle a ship captained by an italian man?
It's depend how the company work,sometimes they do both hiring and construction. But yeah likely they got the crew by 3rd party that is usually nepotism and corrupt way
The mayor of the town is probably the one that has the bell hangin in his house. That’s like the equivalent of having your enemies balls hanging from your fireplace for him.
If anyone asked, the captain's last name kinda sounds like "skotina", which in Russian can roughly be translated as "douchebag". Fitting name, I guess OMEGALUL
Captain Douchebag, fitting, lol
@@lordvastor98 thanks for confirming that you can read
absolutely 100% fitting
How poetic, thank you for sharing
Funny but the all caps and emoji makes me cringe
"Who builds a boat that big!?"
Who owns 200+ mounts they never use outside of showing off?
At the time this happened I lived in a small town on top of a hill in Tuscany with walls all around it and from the bulwarks you could actually see the ship going down, as this town is like right in front of the island of Giglio, was pretty fucking horrifing to see
56:19 SailorVince said that when one works in the Coast Guard, information from the CAPTAIN is ESSENTIAL to avoid any rescuing errors. So him using his gut feeling and conducted the rescue was quite the risk and he did it. He did it well!!! 👏 👏👏👏
I was just going to bed. Guess tomorrow morning is going to suck
You gotta do what you gotta do . _ .
His stream started at midnight for me. I didn’t get any sleep
amen
EU EZ
lmao how are you feeling now then xd
Asmon: "That's the type of gf you want, she's there and got his back"
That did not age well
What do you mean
@@filipraos8072 The girlfriend (in the video) turned against the captain in the end
@@filipraos8072 ^
If she had his back he'd be able to see the island the better but after hearing her speak using her psychological brain now that totally explains the captain
It aged like cheap vinegar man
it's insane how internet historian story telling style is by animates stock footage so good that he make us forgot that he basically just animating stock footages
I’ve waited an eternity for this watch through.
Long may the content king Asmon rule over his blessed domain.
Amen!
Amen!
Awomen!
@@phillwelsh 🙏
@@phillwelsh Anime!
I like to think IH was actually there and legit stole that bell and the entire video was him bragging about it :D
1:18 So, when Asmon said "Gad SLAPPED" my houses power went out. It actually made me laugh.
You know what's even funnier?
Once he got out of prison (early) he was called to participate in a reality show called "Isola dei famosi". He was paid over 2 million for being there in this show where a bunch of famous people are left alone on a deserted island after a fake ship wreck 🤦🏻♂️
Wat
Damn, I don't like WoW, Blizzard or any of that stuff but I think Asmon is a kickass dude. I was waiting for this, glad to have you back bro.
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12:00 I think he misunderstood that. It's just not intuitive at the moment. The stones were on the left and the (correct) command was to steer to the left so that the rear of the ship can swing around them. It is of course counter intuitive to steer "into the stones".
For anyone who has any boating experience, it's intuitive, my family holds shares on a syndicate boat and each time we spend a week or two on it we see first time users on hireboats that end up bumping the back end cause they're not used to the concept of the back end being the steering end, they don't realise how widely the stern swings out.
As a helmsman he should have known that though.
As an Italian, This hits emotionally in many ways...
lucky the passenger does not listen to authority and think on their own. during Sinking of MV Sewol, most of the dead are school children that listen to the captain and stayed in their cabin. those that disobeyed survive while those that obeyed died.
That's why it's so important to think for yourself. Let's ignore for a moment that people are dumb, corrupt or just evil. Even if the captain in this case was well-intending, he could still make mistakes of judgement. Same with any other figures of authority.
@@PresidentScrooge I wish more people could learn this
That's what happens when you grow up in a harshly authoritarian society that shame and quashes childhood rebellion at every turn. Ya get dead kids. I hope the survivors got therapy and carried that disaster as a lesson to teach everyone they knew for the rest of their lives. I want THOSE kids to grow up to be politicians!
@@Kiss_My_Aspergers please Don bring political in this chat
@@unknowngod8221 They're still kinda right though.
Is this why Starfleet puts their captains through those disaster simulations?
*_"Don't worry, it's just a blackout; there are no Klingons."_*
That fucking hero in the chat like "THIRD TIME'S THE CHARM"
"imagine sailing out there to loot the ship!!" - ship is literally 300 meters from town, and like 27 meters away from land lol you can basically walk up to ship xD xD sailing out there lmao
Ya still gotta commit to scuba gear/being able to scuba dive tho for some areas which is a pain
@@DelRae he says like he looted there
@@DelRae what does scuba gear have to do with " sailing " to the ship?
@@goranmatuzalem9574 Most of the ship was filled with water.......
Also YOU would still need to HAVE fucking boat to get to the ship.
I would like to see you walk there. The people on the ship STILL had to get on lifeboats to get away. If they could of walked to shore either no one would of died or just a lot less.
You can't just swim back with the loot though. You still need some kind of raft or balloon to carry it if you're not going to bring a boat.
Costa Concordia: WE ARE IN DANGER THE SHIP IS SUBMERGING!!!!
Asmon: Yeah I had this happen in Valheim
How fitting to start this video with the Tower of Babel and then language barrier ending up being the ships downfall.
A real double whammy on gods part.
Internet Historian's videos are pretty much the only videos I could watch over and over and not ever get tired of them. I've never felt that way about a content creator before; his videos are just that entertaining to watch.
That line about Schettino tripping and falling into a lifeboat was NOT a joke, that was his genuine excuse.
"He told investigating magistrate Valeria Montesarchio: ‘The passengers were rushing all over the decks trying to scramble into the lifeboats. I didn’t even have a life jacket because I had given it to one of the passengers - I was trying to get them into the lifeboats in an orderly fashion. All of a sudden the boat listed between 60-70 degrees. I tripped and ended up in one of the lifeboats. That’s why I was in there.’"
Source: Daily Mail
"Why do you need a theatre in a boat?" Well, admittedly... if I ever lived on a boat, like, as my house... I'd -love- to have a sorta home-theatre on it, so I could use it for watching movies/playing games. I mean, if it were my house. 'v'
The couple who slept through it...how? No, I want to know because by the end of it the ship was horizontal. That means they'd have been dumped out of bed onto the floor then eventually onto a wall which had become the new floor.
Knocked unconsious by the fall or strong sleeping meds ?
@@Redstripe921 The ship listed rather slowly so falling hard enough to be knocked out is probably out but the sleeping meds is genius. I bet you're right, you have to be.
By the time it was tilting, the door was probably blocked, the initial scrape could be slept through though
I've been prescribed Ambien for almost a decade now and I think I might know how they slept through it.
"I sunk a ship in a video game, so I can relate to this guy" - Asmogold, 2021
I was gonna say everything he says in this video is complete cringe.
Sony: hold my beer
RIP no more long videos on Internet Historian. His long ones are the best ones.
Why no more long videos?
17:57 "500 Million Dollars" just like the future game, Concord. Looks like Concordia did it first.
Anything that has Concord in its name is doomed to failure.
I love how asmo says its not a language barrier issue, its a brain barrier issue when he actually got it wrong :D
I think he was right, since most vehicles (car experience) do Drift at high speeds.
@@MalekitGJ nah, he was wrong. He literally said opposite of what's good
LOL the kitchen was having fun panicing people with the titanic song... that made my day. someone in that kitchen knew his job and had been waiting for this moment his entire career.
I really like his réaction, pausing when he want to talk, or even returning backward to re-heard it, WE feel him into it and I love it.
Keep up thé good work
Who's here after the recent Concord disaster, lol?
its because of The Concord law that is "If you name something and part of its name/the whole name is Concord it is going to be dogwater"
@@proii5779 you're trying way too hard with that one bud 😂
it keeps on giving
IHistorian is literally worth watching for his ads alone 😂
The first time I watched this I got excited at the Ad Time part. IH is the only creator where I'm hype for ads.
as i heard it, "a boat is a hole in the water that you pour money into and hope it never fills up." ~ ship owner somewhere lost to the tides of time.
i love how the chat likes to hate on bad english when most of them literally only speak 1 language
he was still unqualified for his job dude...
@@dai-belizariusz3087 what
@@glorifiedcouch648 I think he's talking about the helmsman
"Hey, you've been watching the door for a while, why don't you come up here"
😄 I'm dead 🤣
17:05 I can confirm this for container transports.
My father is the captain of a container transport and he explained that if you can only get away with scraped paint, if circumstances make maneuvering into port challenging, like in Vladivostok, where ice builds up quickly and can alter the ship's movement based on wind direction.
If you lose a few containers / crash the ship at port due to a maneuvering mistake, there's a 95% chance that you'll get fired and you might catch a legal case to boot.
Lifeboats are not made for everyone to board, they are to ferry people from the sinking ship to a rescue ship. Hence why most boats don’t have “enough” lifeboats
This is kinda true but not really, you need to have a seat in a life vessel for everyone onboard. 75% has to be boats, and the rest can be inflatable rafts. The problem is though that it means that if you can't launch them from one side then you're missing spaces for 37.5% of your passenger capacity and if your captain is a tool then those life rafts for the last 25% won't be ready in time. Couple that with panic and your life boats will have at best a third, but more likely a fourth, of your needed capacity.
@@volundrfrey896 i thought the comment was BS, but then you explained it.... damn, that's so fcked up. imagine if you're on a trans-atlantic cruise and the crew goes "ahh man... sorry but we're out of lifeboats..... but hey! here's a pool floatie you can row around in! don't worry about the massive waves and freezing temperatures"
@@DennisHeikki yeah, my advise is that if something happen on a ship then just leave all your stuff and make it onto deck as quickly as possible. Probably there will be enough space for you, but better safe than sorry. If your captain is a dumbass then there might not be, and dumbasses makes their way into positions of power all the time, take [insert any politician here] for example.
This is how they were thought to be used at the time of titanic but after that and some subsequent wrecks they determined at least for transatlantic ships they needed enough for everyone to wait out a rescue.
@@DennisHeikki They're... they're not "pool floaties", you numbskull. They have chemical reactants to instantly inflate and are designed to keep you warm and dry in *exactly* that scenario. They're equipped with GPS tracking beacons, first aid, etc. etc.
The absolute hell of a rollercoaster your face endures throughout this whole thing is probably my favorite part of this. Second favorite is that the creator uses sims for faces. Incredible.
why are things named Concord always cursed lmao
my exact thinking.
I don't know how many times i've watched this video now, i just love it XD Props to Internet Historian and Asmon both for coming together this beautfifully :)
That South Korean couple is goals though. I can't sleep through one knock at my door.
They must have been on sleeping medications
Asmon comes back and IMMEDIATELY starts just reacting to stuff, lmao. Fuggin' legend.
The best description of this whole fiasco is pushing a domino lineup, and when it stops falling, the captain pushes it to continue.
Hey Asmon! You do actually have a small cameo as a character in another Internet Historian video in his second channel. Its about The Gentleman Pirate.
Really, do remember what scene was that?
@@andrefilipe9042 The guy who made Stede's ship
@@legendarymarston9174 ohh I should check that.
Internet Historian is criminally underappreciated for the effort he puts into his videos
He really should watch The Gentleman Pirate from his 2nd channel, but it's like literally 1 hour long so his reaction would take up the whole stream
31:37 at that point it was almost certainly best that the captain just sat there and watched. He had done quite enough at that point and he knows damn good and well that those were his last moments as a normal person. I woulda sat there and watched it burn as well.
that time you notice the titanic could withstand 4 compartments flooding but modern ships can only withstand 2
meanwhile battleships from 1930’s can take every capartment flooded, plus two nuclear bombs and still float.
Man, the algorithm likes to make things come full circle doesn't it.
1:30 you know God didn't even need to strike down the boat, the captain sank the boat for him.
28:11 The moment I realized that we needed this kind of bad ass
3 Years later and it would seem that the title of "Concord" would continue to be a cursed one xD
Massive maritime disaster: happens.
Asmongold: It's like that time in Valheim
I remember seeing this on tv back when it happened. I had no idea THAT much incompetence was involved.
for the people hearing the song when the ship goes with the captain. its White Flag - Krausti (original Dido). its been found it so you don't have to.
Best 7 hour live stream I've ever been part of
I need people to know JUST how epic De Falcos call was.
My man was FURIOUS.
1) Vada a bordo, cazzo.
2) "Comandante Schettino lei adesso va a bordo e mi dice quante persone sono intrappolate su quella nave!!"
= You will go back on board and tell me exactly how many people are trapped on that ship!
3) my personal favourite: "Lei si é forse salvato dal mare, ma io le faccio passare l'anima dei guai"
Meaning "You may have saved yourself from the sea, but I will put you through hell"
This man is A CHAD
The person who own this ship probably just said: get the cheapest crew and staff you possibly can, like why would you get a captain that sink 2 ship and a helmsman that work as a cleaner with a langguage barrier
mistress= sidechick
some other interesting translations:
dating = talking to
being together/in a relationship = dating
One of my favorite quotes from the show Legion is when he says “Humanity once built a ladder so tall it nearly touched heaven but then god cursed us with different languages and misunderstanding”.
The MGS2 Tanker music fits so fucking perfectly with this
23:00 "That SO bad..."
me: Its getting worse... soooo much worse XD
I know, this was a tragedy but... the stupity of those involved defies all reason. Only thing you can do is laughing - otherwise you'd never stop crying.
Yamato: withstands 12 Bomb hits and 7 Torpedo hits
Costa Concordia: **Withstood being grazed by a rock**
As for the question of why cruise ships are so decked out, well, they've been around for a really long time. More than long enough for the law of one-upsmanship to kick in big time.
For the 10 years old in chat, when you test someone for drugs, u use their hair to find out any trace of drug assumption in the last 10 months
I normally shave my head
@@fedora997 ez outplays
@@fedora997 looking like a literal 5Head
@@TheWalkThrewer PepeLaugh
@@fedora997 hello fellow daron fan
I will always remember this accident. My grandparents were on this ship... Just the trip before that one. I wil never forget my father face when his sister told him that the ship my grandpas traveled a week before sinked. He just said "Hell, why wouldn't they be in that one!". I am not kidding btw '^^
I say the same thing honestly that kind of excitement really put some miles on the rest of your life when you're that age.
"Why don't we try to do a little bit of math here?" - Asmongold 2021.
In case you don't know: The bell of a ship in Maritime culture is considered to have the ship's soul in it. So stealing the bell of it is actually pretty understandable, as long as you're aware of that history.
Let me tell ya,
This aged well.
"This is straight out of Titanic!" Wow it's almost as if Titanic is based on a ship crashing and sinking.
Salvaging a ship on site gets hilariously expensive. In WW1 Royal Navy had a Battleship called HMS Warspite. She was at the Battle of Jutland where she had so much fun kicking the crap out of the Germans, she came about and went back in for a 2nd time whether the crew wanted to or not and served right through WW2 were she pulled off the joint world record of longest main battery shell hit from ship to ship, scared the shit out of a bunch of German Destroyers hiding in a fjord waiting to ambush a bunch of British Destroyers they thought would come in after them except it was HMS Warspite with her 15" guns already pointed right at them that came barreling round the corner AND also took a direct hit from a fritz x anti ship missile that sank a far larger and far more modern Italian Battleship not that long before. She survived that and at the D-day landings she fired so many shells inland that she ran out of ammo, went home, got more, went back, fired all that off and wore out her guns so went home for more ammo and new gun barrels, went back out to find the Germans had the audacity to retreat inland out of range so...she flooded one side of the ship to lean over and get more elevation on the guns so she could keep shooting the Germans.(USS Texas pulled the same trick too. Another legend warship with attitude)
This thing was a gangster of a warship. After WW2 the UK Gov made the criminal desicion to just scrap her and after an attempt by private parties and the public to raise money to have her preserved failed, she was towed off to the scrappers. Warspite had other ideas. She slipped her lines and ran aground. And so began the most costly Naval salvage operation there has ever been in British waters. A final "well fuck you very much ya bastids!" from a legendary warship 😂
The moment I saw the thumbnail I was, "Oh, boy, you're in for a ride." Internet Historian knocked it out of the park with this doc.
whats funny is asmongold talks about the tower of babel where god punished man by introducing multiple languages so they could never build a tower like that again. then one of the problems that caused the Concordia to crash was the language barrier.
i just love the fact asmon sounds like chieftain when he yelled omyy god the ship is sinking. just a different vehicle
"Why do you need to have... a theather in a boat?!". Dude... There are FULL golf fields on this.
I saw the wreck of this ship in the Geneva shipyard being dismantled. I got goosebumps.
This is perhaps Internet Historian's BEST video and your reaction to it is perhaps the BEST reaction video you've made. Bravo.
Refloating the concordia was an environmental concern. They don't necessarily want the ship back, they just don't want the ship decaying and polluting the place where it wrecked. All that fuel, oil, coolant, paints, and other synthetic materials breaking down in the ocean would pollute the local area for decades
Bald man back? This does put a smile on my face.
Those edit's are a piece of art ngl 😂🤌🤌
dammit man you supposed to do a 18 hit combo on the car, not the damn Cruise Ship.
You need a theater in a boat to rewatch titanic and love boat reruns