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TL;DR - Play the game.
Seems like all life is, is a game bro. A game of cat and mouse.
@@stylo816 Now you're getting it.
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Nice muscles.
@@sidehustletips what muscles
- Job gap = Bad CV.
- Bad CV = Can't get hired.
- Can't get hired = Job Gap.
thats the viscious cycle...im going to lie from now on
Infinity loop!!
Freelance. If I can do it, anyone can. Find one good freelance job -- ideally from a *small* business owner, do a good job, use that as a reference, and get the independent contractor tax docs if they ask for it.
One good freelance reference can take up several months of a gap.
@@general_electrics freelance what ? what kind of work ?
True. A job gap = a job gap
A system that doesn't reward honest behavior shouldn't expect honest conduct.
I fucking love this quote
Even better wording: a system that punishes honest behavior should expect dishonest behavior
Luka Magic This is society as a whole these days.
Your profile pic brings me back to 2006
Great qoute.
It’s crazy how people can control your opportunity for a job regardless of credentials. I dated a chick that worked in HR and would go over resumes from home when I would be at her house and she would pass up more than qualified people for ridiculous and dumb personal reasons. People put years and finances into their careers just to be judged by someone who shouldn’t be in that position to do so.
I also have a close friend in HR, I argued so much with her due to stupid HR way of doing things
I feel that. I used to work as an HR officer for a media agency and I am absolutely proud to have hired one of the best hard working and talented people. They seemingly didn't "fit the bill" for what was to look for but they knocked it out of the park when it came to delivery. There was always a chance and a risk when taking on people that didn't necessarily have the qualifications but had the "ability" to fulfill the job. Sadly, had to leave because I was moving to a different country.
HR clowns are genuine scum half the time.
They judge engineers by shit they dont even remotely know about.
What ends up happening si that these retards hire litteral NPC's and robots
Most HR is people who have a degree, and pleasant people and absolutely useless for anything else.
Someone there (HR) does most of the paperwork but they NEVER are involved in the hiring process.
The HR hiring people often have not a f*cking clue what the job is they're hiring for, and they look for "keywords".
Often they let software search for those keywords. No keyword, or the wrong one, your resume hits the electronic trashcan.
As for interviewing? How can you evaluate someone for a job, when you have no inkling what that job is or does?
And worst part is we’re conditioned to believe this is the life
it's disgusting. my dad always taught me that integrity was the #1 principle to abide by in life. In job hunting that is _THE WORST_ principle to follow. But it's really hard to break out of--I have a lot of guilt when I lie.
Coming from a family of honest people, seems literally impossible. I understand man, but the world we have to face now 😒
lying so easy. gotta get used to it
Integrity as an employee is a relative thing.
I've never needed to lie to get a job. What are you talking about? You should advocate for your experience. You should put a positive spin on things, I guess? But why would you need to lie?
@@TheMisterGuyHow's that Nepotism going?
A friend put it this way “job interviews are just lying contests, you lie about how qualified you are, they lie about how great the job is.”
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100% Just lie
those days actually the job offers lie more than even most creative liar could even imagine. I actually miss work market when it was ruled by employers ... at least you had chance to see thier true face ... now they are hiding everything and try to appear better than they are. Back then ... they said there are 100 more people outside waiting to take this job.
It is really not good and in fact nowadays people jump from job to job more than before not because they can't keep it but mostly because of lies from companies. Once people learn work is not what they were promised to move on ... onto next company that lies even more hahah.
Well good for me I learn from mistakes and I cannot be fooled anymore easily. Better late than never :)
so the reason ive never had a job is because im unwilling to lie?
@@GarlicGrinder9 at one job interview I had where the employer hated my previous employers reputation to the point that all of my perfect responses to there questions resulted in them ignoring the answer. In the above example I eventually said you ignored every answer I gave this interview I might as well have lied about the company name I would have gotten a fair interview.
Not in my industry. You lie it shows. Your friend sounds like an idiot.
Person: *Tells the truth*
Employer: You're lying.
Person: *Lies*
Employer: I believe it.
So true👍... Unfortunately 🙄
Yea pretty much. I flew through an ice storm and accumulated 3in of ice on the wings and got the flight done. My airline didn't believe it. But I tell them the story about running across the airport to save a passenger's bag (Which I never did) and all of a sudden they believe me.
@@TrainerAQ with the bag… I’m like “sucks to be you”. 😊
It's what they wanna hear. Ofc theyll bite
Yup, its a reality that companies are idiots
If you ever have a gap in your resume, just say you were taking care of a loved one that is no longer with us. They will drop any further questioning after that and if they do then they’re not worth working for.
Nice one! I just put Uber driving hahaha
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That didn't work for me.
Honestly I think that it's screwing me over more than anything
That is clever
This is legit fabulous. I'm a recruitment manager at a recruitment firm, I see the bullshit that hiring managers do behind people's backs. The harsh truth is that you're a piece of paper (your resume, obviously) to hiring managers. The key is to fill your resume with "half-truths," over-exaggerate your skills a bit but be able to competently explain them during the interviews.
Job-hopping is generally a smart financial decision (realistically, hiring teams expect you to stay with employers for at least a year, unfortunately), always be searching for a higher-paying job while employed (obviously, don't quit a job until you have another one lined up).
Be a politician in the 9-5 world, deliver mouth service when necessary, and do just enough to get by.
What do you do when you are a contract worker that can't seem to get a job for the 1+ years that you said employers look for? I seem to get work for, on average, 3 months and just be let go for the remainder of the year only to do the same the next year.
@@Denastus From my experience: Contract roles are no issue. I haven't heart complaints from hiring managers about candidates having a lot of contracts in their work history.
If a hiring manager sees permanent roles lasting less than one year, they often complain about a candidate's work history being "spotty." A "spotty" work history isn't that big of a deal as long as it's from fully completed contract roles, but unfortunately hiring managers do prefer to see long tenures in permanent roles.
@@Denastussay you worked the whole year as a contractor. They called you when you were needed but remain employed throughout. That's how professionals in every industry treat it. You are what you do, not the time you spent doing it.
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this a fucking badass comment
"Mind letting me contact your previous employers?"
Sure, as long as you let me contact your previous employees to see why they quit.
oh my god YES!!!!!
Very good point...
Stealing this
bruh, game changer
I don't like comments on TH-cam.. but I had to like this one
I lied to every interview when I said I really want this job and I'm passionate about your company.
You really wanted that job to pay the bills etc, so you didn't lie 🤐
Well if the company is prestigious it is great since it will help your resume and finding a new job plus negotiating like saying "I worked at the best company in the field so I am basically bringing myself down for you guys so I expect some perks otherwise fuck you cuz I am an elite"
Or at least I hope it will when the time comes
I always have to say it through clenched jaws too. I'm just sitting there like "this is just gonna be another corporate smelling trash bin that lasts 2 months again", but YES I LOVE YOUR COMPANY
@@imhaddanitattaxx4172 LMAO that's great
Oldest lie in the book. We all need a paycheck to survive.
As someone who is honest TO A FAULT, this hit hard.
It’s sad but this is so so so so so true.
your honesty is weakness just being honest :)
True
@@AlanakaBlackCatNot entirely, with people you know you can trust that are close to you it's not bad.
At some point it's good to be honest not only for yourself but with others in order to be more happy on your life.
I would say be dishonest in a work environment.
@@xOwlBearoi
I didn't even know people lied on their resumes. It's pretty wild how the CEOs lie more than we do but we're here to a higher standard.
I do so love how society forces you to become evil, breaking your principals and morals until you are a tool fit to be used.
I want to point out two things:
1. This is why the economy is crippled.
2. CEO's are so greedy for the immediate money and blind to the lower-level operations, that they fail to take the necessary steps to make truely sustainable money.
1. People love blaming the working class...we're lazy, we don't know what we're doing - we're gaming the 'system' when in fact, the people that are passionate, loyal, more than capable, talented, and can excel the company into profits 10x fold typically end up getting passed up by someone who matched the words on the job description to their resume. You wanna talk about the economy. I'll put it in basic terms. More people taken advantage of + less passionate enthusiastic workers getting hired = less pay for employees, and less money for employers.
2. So much more often than not, we see people hiring for jobs that they don't understand the full day-to-day operations and average-talent requirement for, it's crazy. Seriously think about how much money in wasted talent companies spend every year because they not only failed to assess the job duties appropriately, but they also hired someone for work that's way above their ability anyway.
*Capitalism* working as _intended_ 💀☠💀
I beg to differ, the ability to be evil makes a harmless man peaceful. You can lie and deceive for jobs but be a Saint out of work life
As an 18 year old who just finished school, I already have 25 years of experience in both marketing and nursing, as well as a PhD in economics and a doctoral on oral health
You learned from beyond the womb! The greatest genius of our time 😜
Underrated comment
Yours is nothing compared to me being a 26 years old with 40 years of experience in half of the country industries as well as having a PhD in business and master degree in engineering as well as 3 gold medals at the Olympics.
That's fucking awesome. I'm rewriting my resume as well.
Guess you're a good fit for all those positions that require 10 years of experience in 2 years old tech
Out of college, everyone that I know of that lied, got jobs immediately. The honest ones never got jobs and it wasn’t until they lied that they got a job lol. This stuff is real.
That was me. Mr. Honest.
I tried at 18 applying to every retail and fast food place with zero work history, not one job offer.
Tried again a year later and lied as if the last year was spent working at McDonald’s, fucking immediate job interview 🤦🏻♂️
These employers will forget where u said you worked the same day u told them to be honest. Just lie, it’s okay.
@@premejon8300 that's the thing I hate, jobs won't hire you do to lack of experience but like how do they expect you to get experience if nobody will give you a chance AND the fact that it's some retail/fast food act this way is crazy
@@JR-lq5eh its not there responsibility to make sure that you get experiance.
The truth will keep you broke. Lmfsao
Honesty turned me into a habitual liar
I knew a homeless marine who lied about being a cnc machinist. He just made it up as he went and watched youtube videos on the spot.
He was the best employee in a month and he didn't know dick from Terry.
He just showed up everyday and produced the most finished parts
CNC's great for homelearning as well. I had a year of formal CNC training in high school as part of a subject, 2 hours a week, and it was enough to feasibly mill any piece. So I can imagine what constant learning / hands-on job can do in a month for that. What a chad
I think a lot of people simply lack the courage and background experience (destitute and military experience) to do something like this. So many of us are taught to not advocate for ourselves, to not do whatever it takes to support ourselves.
@MrArdaniels exactly. What do you have to lose? Most jobs can be done by a chimp and people get fearful of the unknown.
I switch jobs every 6 months then lie about the lie.
My foundation is solid, they see the stable and can't question the Clydesdale.
As long as your confident you can produce the end result it doesn't matter how you go about getting the chance to prove it.
If you end up getting found out but also end up being their number 1 guy it'll be hard for em to fire you as well.
If you do get fired, there is always that one guy who's also about to be fired if he doesn't find a guy like you that can outwork the entire roster and they got a deadline to keep a contract.
Sometimes they just need to see day 1 output potential and don't care about your high-school GPA
@MrArdaniels but there is such a greater impact on American society. You have this built up walled society who believes in such practice
Then you have unregulated immigration where by 2060 1:4 are Latino are Asian are Muslim are foreign.
The difference is none of them spilled blood, served in the military, paid taxes or sacrificed for the benefit.
They just showed up and were granted benefits day 1. They are alot more skilled and operate on the what do I have to lose mindset.
Few people are truly woke...
Many know nothing but fundamentally conspire, breakdown, and produce evidence based on bias and a faulty starting foundation.
You can erode a nation in one generation if enough people exploit this.
America is ignorant in how we raise children and how we approach work.
There is a Japanese tsunami coming and an unprecedented cascade too big to stop. Only those trained at the ready will survive
Humans are just monkeys off the vine and all it takes is a free cell phone and the internet to tell you where the fruit is
We have to fundamentally change the way we raise children as right born Americans or your fruit will always be third rate compared to everyone else coming here for free
I've spent years walking to work, in the rain, paying child support, entering my daily supply run gas station watching illegal immigrants in brand new vehicles buying cigarettes with Guatemalan drivers licenses living in entire communities of guaptamala living great off the vine and the only English they speak is go fvk yourself
The United States is going to be the youngest country with the most regret and those responsible will all die sinful, rich, with extra relish. Gaza and Isreal vs the north and south revolutionary War sounds less far fetched when you examine causation.
Symbiotic cancer
Cancer has a 97% death rate
So it's really hard... Fundamentally impossible to believe in yourself today...
I'm an old dog and ill survive the initial strike
My son committed suicide
If your younger than me and you have offspring today ...
It'll take that 3% for them to survive
Teach em how to hustle 💯
I'm telling you right now... the flood is better than our best seals, our best scout snipers, our best recon Marines.
The infection can no longer be contained
I’m a former Marine and we were taught to be resourceful. What a beast
It really is an awful reality. I was instantly denied for 20+ jobs at WALMART because I was honest. Companies want to hire liars.
No shit. You’re gonna have to lie to customers so the company doesn’t get sued cuz you don’t know how to lie. Its a legit reason not to hire you. Innapropriate Honesty is also a sign of stupidity and a childish mentality.
True story, a guy at a wal mart in Michigan put on his resume he was in the military, 82 airborne and officer. He was hired and quickly began stealing thousands in electronics as a manager. Had he not been greedy he might had never been caught. Once they checked his background they found his resume was all bull 💩
no
It's because they have 1000's of applications just like yours you didn't make your piece of paper stand out enough. If that means stretching the truth with a few little lies sprinkled in-between so be it. Gotta get good at bsing Edit: Honesty doesn't pay the bills
@@FantomMisfitif you applying to walmart you got nothing to stand out with tf you smoking 😂😂😂
If I were 100% honest at the start of my career, I would still be at the helpdesk instead of being a senior product manager. Play the game.
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Could you say how you lied. I'd love to know how you did.
Playing your own game and expecting your employer not to just makes u the senior hypocrite manager
@Kry Kry - Some clarification. You can’t outright lie, that makes no sense. If you can’t back it up, don’t put it on your resume. The goal is to get past recruiters and filters. Once you have the interview, they will give an offer if you know what you’re talking about, and mesh with the team. You can make up the title on the resume, but always use your official title when filling out forms for the official background check.
@Kry Kry Firstly which agency are you talking about?
Recruitment agencies never fact check your experience they would simply accept what you give and forward it to companies, which I am hoping they do cause usually they are only in it for the money.
Secondly, let me ask you also this - which companies search and fact check or verify? If they look at your resume and see the experience they need they would hire you immediately. That is just leaving the countless biases that also goes with recruiting.
A friend of mine told me that he lied on all of his resumes back in the day. When they asked if he was familiar with computers, coding, etc he said "Yes" when it came time to do the job he would say stuff like "Oh you know the OS I used is different, or the equipment I used was different at my last job. Could you show me how to work it?" It always worked and he learned how to manage data and do other things very well. One of the biggest factors is confidence. If you ask to be shown, and get scared when all the information is given, or think "I can't do this" you will probably fail. Also a lot of good jobs require common sense rather than education. (Just throwing that out there)
I wish your friend would make a video talking about his experience. That sounds awesome if you can actually pretend you know how to code and then get a job and learn from them!
It kinda reminds me of how some jobs will give you a 2 week bootcamp to understand their programs/how they run things. I would think that a 2 week bootcamp would be just enough to understand something like coding/management to be fair! It's not like you need to know math or actual scripts, just search it up for the most part lol!
@Sabizos that honestly sounds concerning lol
You know your last statement actually applies to most jobs.
If the job is venerable, they really just want to hire competent people with a healthy mindset.
The problems come from funneling your applicants into arbitrary restrictions and pretending that how they react to those is reflective of all future behavior.
@@SolDizZo yep
This is irrelevant but Hiei profile pic huh?
You're cultured, I SEE.
I spent nine months unemployed after I got my masters in computer science. I got plenty of interviews for the first couple of months, but after that, things just sort of went to a screeching halt. At one point I literally had a recommendation from a guy that was at a company for years. He thought it was a sure thing. When they finally got back to me, they asked me what I’ve been doing for the past X months. Needless to say, honesty did not get me the job.
Its hilarious because HR npc's are the biggest leeches of a company possible.
They do fucking nothing 90% of the time and are just there to soak up wages.
If Companies were to utterly BAN anybody with HR experience, we would be living in a litteral economic BOOM.
It's a dark cruel world especially when it comes to money. Every human for themselves, there are no friends when it comes to business.
There are friends when it comes to business, you need to cultivate them.
@@decadeyt5891those are not friends they’re networkers. And your only value to them is they can get out of you.
Lying on your resume is borderline a necessity.
My whole resume is a lie lol
My resume looks so empty :(
Well, for me if they don't ask just don't tell them. If you can't lie, just "double speak" or do not tell them. It's easy, I've been there. I managed to secure some job offer but due to salary expectation i refuse until i got i a better offer.
That’s why people suffer from imposter syndrome
@@andyn6053 my whole life is a lie, hah
It’s mad how we’re all taught to be good and honest from young age and life just untwists those rules and beliefs throughout the years
So true lol
Being taught to be honest at all costs was one of their lies homie.
Being honest for a large part of my life only made me gullible and caused me to suffer. It wasn't till I started playing the game too that things started to go more in my favor. Now I know it's more about who you chose to lie to and who you are completely honest to. If I told a thief I have $100 in my wallet, he will mug me. But if I lie to him and I'm confident enough to do it, I can walk away from the situation with my cash. True story. Already has happened to me 3 times. And the one time I was "honest" and told him I had 10c in my pocket, I got mugged.
@@TrainerAQ lmao you got Robbed for 10 cents? if I was a thief I wouldn't even lay a figure on you if you only had a dime
You should always teach your kids good habits like being good and honest but also teach them people can lie and why they shouldn't lie in many cases.
IM 31, In my long experience of working on jobs, what I have learned is that HR is ugly and unhuman department, so don't be ashamed to lie to them they clearly deserve it, if you tell them the truth they will turn it into something negative and use it against you.
You’re right, I was in HR and for this fact I quit my field. It’s not that HRs are inhumane, the profit makers make us do all these kinds of things. After terminating all honest n deserving people we ourselves get fired. Companies lie big time too, they manipulate words for their own interest. Never trust anyone. so yes no shame in lying.
They're literally called human RESOURCE, we are to them nothing but just dispensable resources. And their only duty is to protect the company, not us.
As someone whose always been honest even as a child this is difficult to accept but if the company doesn’t care about me why should I care about them 😓
Find something you care about and make that your passion. Build it like your life depends on it. Working 'jobs' felt and was like dying. My whole life changed when I started researching alternative work options. I realized I could sell some things online and see how that went. I started with a few items and now I haven't had a 'real' job in years. But it took me years to get to that place. Chear up, take a deep breath and treat yourself to a full night sleep. Life really does get better if you let it. Sometimes we just need to get out of our own way.
Same i have it hard lying to people. But i guess i need to practice as it seems to be an important skill.
Exactly. I have to remember this 🥲 im such a bad liar and i cant keep up with some of them.
No company cares about you, they care about money, and will lay you off if it comes down to them making more profits doing so. You need to get used to being a pawn for EVERY company you work at. Your direct co-workers might care about you (and even then 90% of the time they wont), but the big guys in suits dont give a damn.
"They say honesty is the best policy; therefore, by elimination, dishonesty is still the second best policy" - George Carlin.
so lie in proportion? I guess...
@@akashverma4280 basically yes. you just bend the truth where it helps, you hide everything that doesn't need to be known and you over glorify all your good aspects. the only thing you don't lie about is stuff that they can realistically debunk, like a skill that you don't actually have (or can't learn in time).
lol this is twisted
That just sounds smart but is actually stupid. If there are two options, and one is the opposite of the other, then the second best option is also the worst. The best policy is actually dishonesty, clearly.
@@SuperYtc1 I get what you're saying, but liars are easily some of the most affluent people on the planet. This isn't a righteous world.
"Honesty is the best policy," is one of the worst lies we're taught as children.
And we're taught it so that the liars above us can take easier advantage of us.
No, that’s not why you’re taught it. Honesty is the best policy. Any corruption you allow into your life breeds more. It will crush you, drain you of life and cause unforeseeable complications and hardships.
Your role applying for jobs is to see through the listed “requirements” for what they are - dreamed up qualifications. Every job requires learning the technical aspects, the specific methodology used by organization and navigating the social structure. The requirements listed are literally not what they actually need in an applicant. You are not just your resume no more than the employer and job position are the company bio or the job listing.
honesty is the best policy when it comes to peer to peer, companys tho Lies make the money grow like rice :D
@@sittingstill3578if dishonesty is so bad, and you are taught how incredibly damaging it is, then why are the people teaching you that not honest?
Honesty for a company that could replace you in a day? No, you shouldn’t
Wrong, teaching kids there’s only one way to get a solution in life is one of the worst lies we’re taught as children
i’ve always wondered how these people have this job while being so clueless . now i know why. they lie . i’ve been way to honest i don’t even get calls back.
I'll be honest and say that I made up a false resume right before I finished my bootcamp. Within a month, I had gotten a job offered and went on to work 3 other jobs with better pay for each. All while this happened, none of my classmates got a job even after a year. Morale of the story, I'd say that lying in order to get your first job is key, once you've worked for some time in your first job, you'll no longer need to lie as you'll have actual experience to discuss.
Though I’ve found if you eventually need to switch careers you need to start lying all over again because your previous work experience doesn’t match what they want in the new career. So you need a completely new bogus resume and references and fake degree 😅
Almost 2 years ago I was promoted to a "manager" position for a large company. The candidates we were getting that were currently employed were ho-hum so I went back to HR and looked at the ones they were filtering that didn't hit on keywords OR HAD A GAP LONGER THAN 6 MONTHS.
I went back thru those resumes and found the most qualified candidate with a job gap longer than 6 months - and I hired them because I'VE BEEN THERE.
I've since hired 3 more people because my department has grown and all of them have had a job gap between 4 and 18 months AND THEY ARE THE BEST WORKERS I'VE HAD because they appreciate the opportunity.
My fellow managers ignore qualified candidates with job gaps at their peril.
agree 100%, three crashes now, not many were consistently employed through all three.
the more i hear about the capitalst dystopia that the US is, the more grateful I am of the humane laws of EU.
Right a firm doesn't hire their loss
I'm glad we don't presort candidates. It takes way more work but I actually see someone with a 4 month and growing gap and her skills look good
@@joseph4445 did they make job gap discrimination illegal? You can't regulate every flaw out of capitalism and even if you could it's not going to work on a practical level. EU is basically just as capitalist as America, I've lived in Finland and other places, and I can tell you from firsthand experience that living in Europe is a lot like living in California but with less violent crime because there are so many gangs here in America
About 2 years ago I lied my way into a sales job when I had $50 in my bank account and had to pay off debt. If I didn’t do that I would’ve been in even more debt and wouldn’t be able to take care of my parents. Do what’s best for you, screw being nice and honest it doesn’t get you anywhere.
only be nice and honest to your immediate loved ones and friends...you are right screw the so-called employers they don't care about you one bit
Tbf. Lying your way into that job should have been proof enough you were fit for it.
Sales are pretty easy jobs to get, especially commission ones
U r right
It depends, if its about a job then yeah you can lie to get the job, but in a relationship is better to be honest
I had an HR manager that would throw out resumes from people that had degrees from certain universities, university of phoenix was one of them, i always thought that made her a complete trash human, those people spent time and money on those degrees and were usually qualified with exp as well
Isn't UoP a degree mill? Either way very shitty of her.
Something I learned from the military was, You don't need to be perfect, just perfect on paper
Definitely don’t lie on your resume for government, high paying, or information-sensitive security jobs. They tend to go thoroughly into your background. But yeah judging job gaps is bullshit.
What’s “high paying”?
@@MichiganMan4Ever If you're going to the CFO maybe don't lie about taking accounting courses
I work for the government. They made me provide college transcripts + bring my diploma into the interview. They are also one of the only employers that ever actually called references and previous employers. Most private companies don't even bother.
I have access to the universities database in Ontario Canada. For $6000 I will give you a degree in anything you want with a GPA that puts you in the top 15% of your class. My best customers want University of Waterloo degrees in software engineering. It is a ticket to big time cash.
@@905JimRaynor Stop lying.
My integrity is important. I try to always be honest... to people. NOT to corporations. Corporations aren't people. It's okay to lie to them to make ends meet.
Only time you ever need to lie to something or someone
Unfortunately corporations ARE people. Legally. I understood what you meant tho and I agree.
@@MrArtVein i read that and thought the same.
@@gqprince2 yeah, but the thing is even tough they are people, they dont give a fk about you. Its about what you bring to the company to make them more money. The human side is completely ignored even tough they pretend the whole office culture bullsh!t, etc.
Correct.
I had a job gap once for 6 months. I said that I wanted to work somewhere else, was financially secure to cover the cost on my own and took some time off with my family. They didn’t bat an eye and we moved past it as if I was an even better candidate for being able to float on my own.
Same
That's awesome
The problem is companies think they have all the power and treat the job applicants as such. I have experienced a manager after the first interview, just ghosting me. There's no decency to even tell the person, unfortunatley, you didn't make it to the next stage. This is why the whole quiet movement has begun is because companies treat their workers as mindless robots that don't have feelings.
I like to call those people back and ask about the position/interview. Decency and Courtesy have left the job search field.
I applied for a Night Fill position at a local supermarket. Got an interview, was honest, they said they wanted to offer me a role, but I didn't have my email on my resume, so they requested it for the onboarding stuff.
3 weeks and 2 follow-ups later, nothing.
The actual hiring manager came back when i followed up the 3rd and final time with a phone call. She said 15 people got put on, but she doesn't know who.
So i wasted essentially a month for a job that i was told i had, but was never *actually* given.
May argue the fact that 'if you didnt hear back you didnt get it'. They called me 4 hours after interview to offer said role. If i wasn't getting it, why do you want my details for onboarding?
My job gap grows wider lmao
I told the truth, I was taking long leave for cancer treatment and rest. They never called back. Every single one of them.
Horrible.
You should mail back the company address that you have been discrimanted against on a health basis. A lawyer would probably be up for this too and you have good chances in winning.
this makes me furious
Assoluto Cosmico exactly. thats why you lie.
Dougebags
My dad always told me that many people in the job industry fall under the following:
Tell people the truth and they'll call you a liar, tell them a lie and they'll believe you.
Yep.
@Joshua_Fluke...discuss deez nuts you scammer
pretty much, i got a job by lying on my resume and omitting my college gaps.
besides saying i knew perfect excel and ERPs.
i know nothing, and I'm learning on the spot, and no one cares.
no one ever cared.
That's why being hot makes life easy
@@Trilo-Kh2DI also know perfect erotic role-play
Straight up lie on your resume, the worst that will happen is they won't hire you. Best case is they hire you. Most companies don't contact you for the previous job.
I find this halarious. I do every single thing he’s mentioned before even watching this and he’s 10000% correct.
I’ve never had any of this backfire and I’ve always got back up on my feet if ever I’ve been knocked down.
Whoever collecting my mortgage payments never accepted honesty as payment last I checked 💁🏽♀️
Lmao literally
2021: _"We see you have a job gap for like all of 2020."_
_Yes, I see a gap in your brain._
Well at least CORONA can EASILY explain a job gap nowadays!
@First name Last name u REALLY SERIOUSLY expect ppl to work DURING A PANDEMIC!?!?!?!?!?!? When some jobs like small businesses and some restaurants have closed!?!?!? If u SERIOUSLY believe that ppl should RISK their LIVES for a dollar then you're the REASON WHY THE PANDEMIC IS CONTINUING TO SPREAD!!!!!!!!😡😩👎
@First name Last name this is probably the dumbest comment I’ve seen in a min
@First name Last name it doesn't matter if ZERO PEOPLE died! If there is even a slight chance of death people shouldn't be going PERIOD! Other countries like denmark and Canada gave their citizens monthly checks or held their paychecks untill it was safe enough to return to work. Like it sad before it's people who think like u the reason why the virus continues to spread 😠
@First name Last name why don't u get it? JUST 👏 BECAUSE 👏 YOU 👏 ARE 👏 DOING 👏 GOOD 👏 DOESN'T 👏 MEAN 👏 EVERYONE 👏 ELSE 👏 IS! Of course our govnt needs to be shut down so the virus doesn't 👏 continue 👏 to 👏 spread! The governmen never took the virus too seriously anyway
Tighter more controlled safety measures needed to be in place so that there can be faster vaccine rollout, contact tracing more testing so that way we can track exactly where the virus is coming from and nip it in the bud before it gets worse. But since our government never fully shut down the way IT SHOULD HAVE the virus skyrocketed. But as long as MY POCKETS are filled what's 200 thousand deaths right!? I mean what's a MILLION DEAD PEOPLE!? As long as I (ME) has what I need it doesn't matter how many die. (Obvious sarcasm)
Lied that I had 5 years of welding experience. Took a weld test and passed. Joined a union.
Good on you man!
Wish it was that easy
Jesus
It helps if you are white. This is the racial caste system that must be cast asunder.
@AKSEL AFRICANO Pfft, you just confirmed what I stated. If you are white, being qualified for a job is optional. :)
I needed this. I've been in and out of survival jobs for years. Any jobs that I seemed qualified for were so stinking competitive It felt I had no chance. I've always valued truth, but in an industry so fickle, It truly is shooting yourself in the foot to be transparent. I need to learn to play the game better. Wish me luck xoxo
We live in a F#@ked up world, dont we? At least you know the game better.
This mindset is the right mindset for work. It's the same for mistakes at work. DO NOT ADMIT MISTAKES and try to cover them up if possible. Honestly does not do you any good. When you admit a mistake at work, you might think "I did the honest thing and my boss appreciates me being honest". It's the opposite. The more mistakes you admit, the more your boss doubts your ability to perform the job.
And you will be the first on the layoff list. They don't care how hard working you were, they only care about the metrics. And sometimes they will layoff a whole team based on bad team metrics even if your performance was good.
Lying on my resume got me a $12 pay increase, and I’m still holding that job six years later. Often enough, they expect you to enter knowing something you’ll learn quickly at that place of employment. Learn quick, and no one knows
Being honest and truthful will only hurt you on your résumé. I’ve seen applications for a job get turned down for stupid petty or illegitimate reasons.
May i ask what you do for work? Im curious what kinda positions that lying is okie dokie for
@@PamdaBear1 any, life isn’t hard. Work isn’t hard, few jobs require a truly special individual. I’m a shift lead Welder. Two of our best guys lied about being certified. I have welded for five years and lied about having shift lead experience. I just had to say I had experience and the job was mine with the $12 jump. Doing the exact thing I always was, simply telling others to do the same things I’m doing.
@@PamdaBear1surgeon probably... Say you've done it and quickly learn it on the job
@PamdaBear1 generally office positions are simple if you're a quick learner. Don't blatantly lie but definitely oversell your skills if you want an office job. Otherwise you'll never get into the office/corporate environment.
My Dad lied on a resume. After the first interview, he studied for the position. he became a cyber security expert in about two weeks.
For context, this was during the early 2000's. He was an ET in the Navy prior, which used to be a hard job to get. He also had six kids to feed. He started his position making around 100K a year, he was making 250K a year before he quit his job to move to the Midwest.
That’s what I’m talking about!
Lol the thing is a motivated person can learn a LOT in 100 hours online.
@@patty109109 exactly!!
@@patty109109sure but for me digesting nd praticing take some time. I cant memorise every thing like a robot 😔
@@patty109109 You just resumed what I did in the best Job I had. I liked it and absorbed the information very quickly...
I do all of this already, and I always get hired lol, they never even call my fake reference.
Lol 🎉 about to make my resume soon as I get home
Haven't seen this level of sincerity in a long while and you are right, life doesn't give you what you deserve, it gives you what you demand of it. You just earned a new subscriber. Kudos
My Ex would put companies that went out of business so, they couldn’t call and verify. It worked and was genius lol.
Same as my friend too
Thanks a lot for this tip xD
How do you find companies that went out of business?
HR: All the companies this person worked for went out of business... what if she makes US go out of business? haha
Genius af
What these videos taught me is that HR is pointless and garbage.
Jackyl hr is garbage.
Why can’t companies just remove and eliminate the HR department?
HR is never on your side
@@qjtvaddict HR is there to protect the company from its employees.
nope, worse, they are a barrier, an obsatcle (thats how much of an obstacle they are) they make the world go backwards.
You are taught to be honest and never lie, but in reality it takes 1 person to lie and they get ahead of you and thus begins the snowball affect of everyone needing to lie.
I personally don't want to do it, but its the reality of the world and especially the job market.
Great video, a pro tip that I’ve learned to negate a lot of the issues you mentioned is not just forwarding your resume to a company for review. You should call the company and speak to someone in HR. If they blow you off that wasn’t the person you needed to speak to. Research the staff online and introduce yourself to them directly. Basically do whatever it takes to make a relationship with someone in the company so they can refer you. People that get referred get moved straight to the top of the list and your resume will only be used for your contact information.
You will still need to be qualified for the job and impressive during the interview but at least you will be getting an interview
All that happens here is the HR person tells you to go apply for the position online like everyone else.
@@JamesSmith-cm7sg Did you read past the second sentence of my comment?
@@JamesSmith-cm7sg That's because they're worthless. The objective is to find the person who decides who is worth hiring and get their reference.
I fudged the shit out of my resume for my current job. They checked and found that I did in fact have a huge gap that couldn't be accounted for. When they asked why I didn't tell them, I said "I was tired of companies punishing me for being unlucky." They still gave me the job. Doubt that would ever work again. lol
actually, if anyone ever calls you out on a lie, the best course of action IS to come clean. The person is throwing you a bone by confronting you about the dishonesty rather than disregarding you, and coming clean will actually instill greater trust as it shows that you are willing to admit you mistakes.
You did the right thing though and through. Lie at first because that's the game. But if an employer actually confronts the lie with truth, then they are more likely an honest company and deserves honesty at that point.
I think that guilt tripped them a little so it worked !
@@Vizaru nah wtf. Bullshit more. They wont care. Neither should you
@@manuelpacheco9790 Right it all boils down to if they actually like you or not. I've seen the differences how employees get treated simply based on how much the employee is liked.
I have a solid reason of depression ,anxiety n when my mom was sick n I was sick ,
Been a programmer for 20+ years. I don't disagree with anything you say here. You do anything you have to to get to the interview, resumes are just to get past the HR flunkies and to the tech people. If you really don't know your stuff the tech people will figure it out pretty quick in your interview.
I will tell you when I've been the most honest in interviews is when firms have wanted me the most. At one of my last ones, one of the first questions was "Why do you want to work here?" My answer, "I don't know that I do, that's why I'm at this interview to decide if I want to work here." I think the interviewer was so taken aback that I wasn't kissing his ass and doing corporate speak, that we actually had a really good discussion with him selling me on the company for the rest of the interview.
hurtin11 Ahh, reverse psychology. It has gotten me hired more than once.
Depends on the job
I was asked the "Why do you want to work here?" question before. I answered, "Your recruiters keep contacting me about this job so I finally agreed to see why they wanted me so badly." I did not get the job because the salary was too low and it went unfilled for more than two years. I knew that because another recruiter called me over a year later about the same job.
That’s such an awesome response!
Lot of employers will see that snarky bs tho
Hi Joshua, this was the recent most helpful video that I found ever since I have been wondering around and beating myself up with the decision to either lie or be honest about the resume. It's been a very tough time for me for almost a year now, and no one has been able to help me in actuality, even my friends or not even the closest ones, thank you for the insights and the video, keep posting videos like this and I will be on the lookout for the videos that will help me make some important decisions about my life and/or my career.
I have this quote when im buttering myself up in a interview and its "I can paint a pretty picture all day, but its pointless if i cant show you" the amount of confidence that not only gives off to Employers but to yourself as well is like a Subconscious Hire. I like to keep things short, simple and straight to the point. also a little lying here and there, its like reverse psychology almost.
That's an awesome line bro
What if I say this and they have me do something right then and there? :/
@@ulisesmontalvo9606what if it's a virtual interview🤔 ?
Stealing this line for my upcoming interview 🤣🤣🤣
that wont happen, i can promise you that.@@ulisesmontalvo9606
A disturbing realization that comes with adulthood is that most people can't be trusted with the truth.
Michael Church this really broke me in my early/late 20s...
Really? What if they were under oath?
@@pauljordan4452 What's an oath though? Swearing on the bible? Might work if you're of that specific religion. 'I promise i'm telling the truth' - said every liar ever.
So true. Can't count how many times I've been screwed with utmost malice just for leveling with someone. Only close friends are entitled to your honesty. That's not even a Machiavellian or edgy opinion.
My God ain't that the truth
I've lied on my resume many times. Got me 100k salary for three years once.
Literally got me my six figure job. More like half truths vs lying
@@fantasyfan998 which skill? Oh sure sure no problem.
bill murray which skill did you sell at the interview?
@@junaids.9314 It was a few technical questions I was familiar with but not as advanced as they wanted. A few TH-cam videos later and I was golden though.
@@junaids.9314 when I applied to the company I got into upper management by pretending to have lead a team far larger than I actually had, and acted like I knew a lot about the books, orders, claims, hiring, firing, etc. The truth was I had been a crew leader on a relatively small construction company of only 3 others, and didn't know any of the business admin, hiring or firing. The new job had me run a shop with 18 people under me, swamped in papers. It was a hard learning curve, but I kept and audio recorder and took notes diligently about what had to be done so I could figure out how to keep up. Eventually doing so rather well... a note to be said about that, don't out lie your potential, Jesus that was a lot to take on so fast. Great experience getting thrown to the sharks.
When you slowly start to notice how ridiculous these work experience demands are in the job description that you start to lie, just a pinch, and realise you can get more out of it.
Thank you for the advice and bitter truth. I hope more people know this.
one thing you didnt directly mention is the use of applicant tracking systems/ATS, they basically filter most resumes based on the settings companies set. sometimes not having the key words listed in a job description alone will give you a lower score on the software, like if the job says "must be diligent, gay, organized" and you had that at your last job at chippendale's but dont use those words, someone with the same experience will get the job if they did
Fresh out the military I was denied a security job because the HR lady didn't like how I presented myself. Despite having one hell of a resume for experience, professionalism, clean shaven/haircut ect, And when that happened I realized, it doesn't matter if you are more than qualified for a job or not. If one person doesn't like something they will just throw it out and then make up some excuse to their boss as to why they didn't hire. She later got fired ahh, sweet justice.
This has happens alot, if they dont like you face they don't progress with you, this is why you never send a photo with your resume.
In my previous work, I heard the HR choosing to fail an applicant for having gifted mamary glands.
Tf is wrong with that company.
@@wookieeMan06 here in Germany apparently you don't get a job without a picture which annoys the f out of me because discrimination is still a thing lol
@@iwrona6258 Damn, that sucks. Can get away with anything.
@@mjewan9920 gifted mammary glands? what? who puts that on their resume in the first place? or how does that even pop up and become relevant?
There are some things you just don't tell people, as how do you organically bring up having gifted mammary glands? I don't blame the HR person for failing the applicant as just saying that would weird anyone out
This video might just change my life. Ive been too honest for too long.
No one feels sorry for you when you can't put food on the table. You have to do what you need to do and make it happen
Me too!
Embellishments are ok....just not lying...😉
yup about to start lying. I know I can do these jobs but the honesty is killing me.
Sock Outlet u aint kidding. these honesty shit isnt helping me
There was a case i think last year, here in the UK, where one of the highest earning employees in the NHS was found to have fabricated nearly all of his qualifications. I believe he was in his late 50s to early 60s. He claimed to have a PhD.
Let me break down how scary that is. Throughout HIS WHOLE CAREER of nearly 40 years, he continued to rise to the top with almost entirely fabricated qualifications in one of the most important organisations in the UK. And at no point, during that time, did anybody properly look into his background.
Lucky man
@@DadDude-uj6wxand "lucky" people who probably died bc of his incompetence
@@bulka5305who says he was incompetent? He sounds like a smart guy 😂
I just wanted to swing back through and say thank you sir for the video single-handedly landed me a job. I’ve been after for a while today who would’ve thought that all it took was a little fudging of my start and end dates on my résumé. Really appreciate what you do keep it up man.
The whole resume and job application system is messed up. At the end of the day I think it's just designed so nobody really qualifies then they can show they tried to hire someone to satisfy union policies, then they can outsource the job. Same reason they expect 10 years of experience in a technology that has not even been out that long yet. When I was quitting an IT job and my job posting went out to replace me, I read it and realized I did not even qualify for my own job.
Red Squirrel good to know that unrealistic qualifications wasn’t just something I thought I was up against.....
Hhhhj I'm a network manager here in the uk I work in highs schools sounds familiar.
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣lololol
You’re 100% right. Some job recruiters on Twitter admitted to doing this. It’s because they’re gonna hire a friend or family member instead. The job system is a joke
@@ahmedhashmi3584 Facts, especially in the IT field
This highlights everything I hate about job applications/interviews.
What is their goal? - to find a honest, hard-working employee.
What do they do? - Disregard anyone who tells the honest truth, and hires a bunch of liars instead.
companies with HR deserve what they reap.
Facts
Because they think the liars are more qualified because they lied.
@@joefish6091 facts, fuck HR, biggest moneysink known to man.
Been working for 20 years . Its actually accurate. I wouldnt say that you have to lie, but you can certainly focus on your strengh and bend a little bit the reality to get the job . If you are a fast learner it could be tough the first month but you have a human brain to adapt. For the gap you Can absolutly artificially extend your past experiences. They will never check. Same for you past salaries.
I came across your video last week, and a really good opportunity came my way. I applied for a manger position even though I’ve never been promoted to a supervisor, I’ve only had supervisor like task with no title or extra pay. So I put down supervisor for my current job.
I lied on some parts, and thankfully all my references, came through and said good things about me, because I take pride in being a hard worker. I got the call today and got the job for the manager position.
This video opened my eyes, you’re right. You can’t be honest on your resume and expect company’s to reward your honesty. I didn’t go college because I didn’t want to be in debt. I wanted to work my way up through hard work and proving those at the top wrong about needing a degree or sliding into a manger position through nepotism.
Takeaway: Your resume is like a coloring book, but you can color on it like you're 5. As long as the right colors are in the right spots, it doesn't matter if you're "out of bounds" because most people, despite what they tell you, are colorblind.
Most people aren't colorblind though, but I get it lol
@Noah I was looking at a study and it was like 8% of people. But yeah I guess lol. I try to be too literal randomly.
@@Gandhi_Physique don't
@@Alex-by4zv How my brain works. That's like telling a stressed person "don't be stressed." lol
I can see how "try" could give a different connotation than I intended though.
@@Gandhi_Physique worry not, it's alright.
When I'm honest, they think I'm lying. When I lie, they think it's the truth.
Proverbs 17:4 "Evil people listen to evil ideas, and liars listen to lies."
Better Call Saul
A backwards world👀
It sounds like you should thrive in the corporate world.
So it really is true after all. We are living in end times. This is sad.
This was surprisingly uplifting. I thank you for this perspective.
this video really really helped me, thank you. I've always felt so guilty about the idea of lying or embellishing on a resume, not anymore.
Thirty years ago, I worked as a steelworker at a small family owned company in Cleveland (120 employees). Someone asked the owner's son, who was the plant manager, what he thought about lying on applications. He said "If you're not smart enough to lie, you're not smart enough to work here." Nice.
@@jellyfishi_ lying is dishonest
@@joefish6091 thank you for this new revelation of information
@@joefish6091 ok boomer
@@joefish6091 Not a single honest billionaire. Dishonesty pays.
I feel extremely uncomfortable about lying on my resume. However.............it seems that it works.....hmm.
This is why I like josh, being a honest is like a crime.
Imagine wanting to be a good person but get screwed over for it.
@@JoshuaFluke1 People inside the matrix will defend the matrix. Also people who created the matrix will defend it. So basically, being honest doesn't have enough market share.
@@hendrixansel9750 if you want to connect with people, and help people, then you need to be able communicate with them. Saying they're in the matrix and all that - serves to make you look as if you wear a tin foil hat. I understand it's a topic you're passionate about, but in the grand scheme of things you're yelling alone in an echo chamber. Try to be understanding, then explain options and your perspective. Don't just say everyone is wrong but me. No one will ever listen that way.
@@JoshuaFluke1 wise words
This society punishes good people honesty is basically a crime in the west. You must lie to win cause society rewards dishonest people and degenerate people
Dang I needed to see this. Literally so many scam companies out there lying about the responsibilities, requirements and locations not to mention salaries of their positions but I've always been honest to my own detriment.
If you’re skilled enough and confident go for it. I lied multiple times and now I make 75$ an hour as a plumber
I've lied on my CV and I feel zero remorse. Some are born into rich and comfy families that have contacts and allow them to do unpaid internships. Why is that fair? So yeah, I lied and said I had the required experience when I didn't. As someone on here said: Companies lie about how great the job is and wouldn't hesitate to fire you the second it becomes economically viable to do so. So yeah, lie if you need to and don't take it too seriously. It's just a job.
Weeping Angel , why not bust your ass like everyone else? I didn’t come from money or have anything in my name. I didn’t lie on my resume.
@@JediOfTheRepublic because busting your ass gets you nowhere. And as I've mentioned, why should companies get to lie about how great the job is, low-ball you in the salary negotiation, and fire you the moment it becomes economically viable to do so, and yet we the employees have to be good little slaves that do everything by the book. Are you able to answer this question? Let me guess you'l say something like "yEaH bUt ThEy PaY oUr wAgEs tHeY hAvE tHe RiGhT tO dO sO!!!" Well they might pay our wages but we give them our time. And life's too short to slave for a company that lies through its' teeth.
@@JediOfTheRepublic Because busting your ass is stupid. There are too many people who happily waste their time slaving away for shitty wages and destroying their bodies and minds in the process. When you're old and tired with not much to your name other than some money you've saved up, the last thing you'd want to think about when you look back on your life is how you spent most of your living days working for other people.
@@weepingangel6805 "yEaH bUt ThEy PaY oUr wAgEs tHeY hAvE tHe RiGhT tO dO sO!!!"
I got a pretty similar answer from a colleague when we were talking about how our current employer constantly tries to screw over his workers.
Back in the olden days of masters and servants, when servants lived in the basement and served basically 24/7, there was a MASSIVE social machinery around making the servants good at serving and never questioning their lot in life, for example a whole genre of literature devoted to telling the message that ”God looks with favor upon those that serve”, ”be honest, have integrity!”, ”do not envy” and so on. Those are not values created to make people happy, they're created by the masters to make their subjects good little servants that work hard for others benefit. It's kind of fucked up when people who are basically slaves themselves defend those values. Like dude, you're brainwashed, and it is pathetic. It's a little more complicated than that, and I do think society needs honesty to function, but.
Lied on my resume to get a job and ended up a supervisor 9 months later. They cared way more about my personality, work ethic, and molding me than what I already knew.
What kind of job n What'd u say?
I work in I.T. My boss recently hired someone who came from construction and had no I.T. experience whatsoever. The reason he hired him because he is a hard worker, been in his job for the last 10 years (laid off) and has a great personality. I've met this new hire last week, he's cool as heck. Glad he joined our team.
💯💯💯
@@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.. day whatever you want but just be able to make it seem true in interviews
I've used three strategies to address gaps on my resume 😁
1. Consolidating details. My shipping job that I worked three times, twice as a contractor? Listed as one job. The theme park conglomerate which I worked for 6 seasons, with 3 jobs, in 2 cities? Listed as one job, everything else explained in the duties.
2. An "Education and Non-Employment" section near the bottom of my resume, putting down anything from community college classes to a home tech project.
3. A "Summary of Accomplishments" near the top, sorting all the details to paint a much nicer picture.
My dad gave me the advice that "they want to think they're hiring someone with a plan. So come up with something." Also, it saves time on applications, my conscience stays clean, and I got more bites while I was still job hunting 😁
Well said, my dude. Thank you for this.
What always bugged me, you have to give two week notice when you quit but when the employer no longer wants you they usually fire you on the day of.
No one cares about the working class. It’s vile
That's in the US. Try doing that in France the employee will drag you into court and likely win. You can fire someone on the spot, that's your right. But if you do it without advance notice and/or without a good reason you'll have to at least pay some sort of compensation to the employee. And yes of course there are thousands of employees who had it coming and then it sucks that you have to follow a bunch of procedures to fire them. But in Rome, do as the Romans do.
@Magic Man at least there was some fairness there. I hope your NDA wasn't strong enough to prevent you from summarising what kind of job you held to your next employer. Cause F the NDAs that prevent one from even mentioning what skills they used at/learned/Improved upon during that period at X incorporated.
You technically don't "have to" you don't owe them anything, if you get another higher paying job, then leave. I've done it twice and I do not care or regret anything. When a job starts acting funny I act accordingly. Most I've ever given was one week. They can't force you to give two weeks.
@Magic Man That's pretty standard when you're dealing with "secret" information. I honestly preferred that -- you know the second you declare, you will be out the door. No awkward 2 weeks fumbling around about shit you don't care about anymore.
Me and my friend lied about having an internship at Lockheed Martin (both engineering majors) and we put each other as our employers and hyped each other up and we both got jobs at our respected engineering companies fresh out of college. I recommend everyone do this.
That what most people should do.
@@snipesentertainment9037what is free lance contract ? How do you show invoices ?
@@moemoe-jb2fw I meant references because you don't have to show them personal info. Make it a personal assistant and it could literally be any task. I get clients on task rabbit. Why would they even ask for your personal work?
As someone who interned at Lockheed Martin this is hilarious
I needed to hear this today, thank you very much Joshua!
I hear what you are saying. As a programmer of 17 years, I have had many jobs. Each one I learned another domain and then the job started to dull. Keep learning new domains and you can prove yourself. I tend to explain job gaps as burnout or not quite the right fit. Not saying I am doing it right but I look younger for my age.
Yeah ive lied too many times on my resume. Give my friends numbers as references, extend employment dates etc. Idgaf. Just make sure you can actually do the job.
M Raees boss shit, do what u gotta do💯🤷🏽♂️
M Raees lol, not being able to do the job isn’t a huge bar to employment in many places 🤣😂
How long did you extend your employment?
@@zeezoo6174 as much as 2.5 years. Do whatever you gotta do just to win
@@raees2473 never got checked?
I've worked for over 30 years and for several different companies. And what you mentioned in your video is exactly the way the cookie crumbles.
Marvin-Kevin Juan wdym
@@justinwan7199 he’s referring to the proprietary and/or classified information that some companies deal with. It makes job interviews EXTREMELY hard when you legally cannot go into detail about some of the bulletpoints on my resume and plenty other resumes like theirs as well
I love this video. Thanks for talking about this topic. My friend group would all agree with you.
Thank you so much dude this was very insightful. Each day I hate this world and the system we’ve created even more, done being honest time for me to play the role of the con man
I was honest and no one would hear my story. When I lied, I got attention and then a job. I hate that you have to be honest with the company but it's never reciprocated. They expect you to be peachy perfect and check all the boxes, otherwise it's you fault. It's never the fault of the fucked up system of this fucked up world. Then CEOs will go on Ted Talks and say "we need more developers".
Great take! I feel they want the top 1% of workers for 50% of the expected salary. Even in a perfect world, this doesn't exist, if we aren't nurturing upcoming potential talent, there isn't going to be anyone else to fill in for their impossible job requirements. This is will perpetually create a ripple effect where the industry is so tight on talent where corporations will either outsource or just stop dealing with this technical field altogether.
It's kinda like the Android app dev craze a few years back, whereas as of today, the Android app dev is a dying industry, often times devs aren't compensated very well and the only people who put up with it, do it because it's either a recreation or working in some code factory in India.
Anonymous Panacea If i had lied a little when applying for a federal job, I’d have been working there for 9 months now. But I was too worried and felt bad even thinking about it.
@@FadeHook23 I say let them fuck themselves up. Let em!!!
@Anonymous Panacea You can never make money from open source
I am honest all the time and on my last run i got a contract on my mail ever time i left the building. Also, as i am an idiot lol, i never found their office first time and got there late around 20-45 minutes on every job interview. I simply, as mentioned in my comment, go there, open my notebook and show what i did, only talk about what i really know - programming - and also start to test my interviewers knowledge. They notice that.
Edit: If the job says "Oh you need c++, c#, c, switft, js, html. css, java, brainfuck, office365, adobe and even SPL knowlege" always remember: They also cook with water. No one is an 100% expert in all of these. I know a lot but the most confident i am with the tools i use right now and i use daily. Also you have to realize that your lever is the longer one, they want your work and quality, so tell them a price in a manner of "take it or leave it". Always reject AT LEAST ONE interview/date and tell them that you already have an interview with another company. Dont be like the 10000000 ppl that applied before with their school knowledge on how to apply and properly suck of teachers :'D
Imagine going into a company, and grilling the company on why they have an open position.
Are you a small company just now expanding? Will I have to worry about the company going under while I'm working here? Is there a problem with management? Did the last person leave because of a bad manager? Or is it because the last person costed too much? Will I have to worry about getting my pay cut in the future? Did the last person find a better position somewhere else? Should I just apply elsewhere if that's the case? Is it the work environment? If I work here will you work me like a dog? Were the other employees the problem? Do you have a problem with picking bad candidates for positions?
God knows they would be just as insulted.
What an amazing take.
@@bartlemington2003 What's the first in his comment?
EXACTLY~! Ask: why should I work for you people, and why do you have "Now Hiring" signs on all your vehicles? Are you that good or are you that bad? Do tell me please.
I might have to make a habit of applying for jobs that I don't want, just so I can grill the interviewer for kicks.
I do ask them questions about themselves. How much work do u have etc
Lots of great tips! Thanks!
Thanks bro, I love the video, never thought of it this way before.
I lied about my resume like there’s no tomorrow, got the job (construction, I’ve never held a hammer before in my life), busted my ass off at work, sometimes didn’t even take breaks the whole day while everyone else did, learned the trade, one month later I was quitting cause I wanted more money so he gave me a 20% raise so I don’t quit and told me he really liked me . But if I was honest about my resume, they would’ve looked for someone else and I’d still be trying to find a minimum wage job cause I have no experience in anything work-wise.
No regrets
how did they not find out?
@@marusdod3685 I'd guess they figured out, but I kept in mind what my friend told me which was "If the foremen like you, you won't get fired even if you're not so great, as long as you don't sit there and do nothing" and the foremen at the job site walked me through the process to show me how they do it cause I told them that's not exactly the construction I did, if I had any question I'd ask the guys, no one told the foremen or the employer that I didn't know what I was doing, I was nice to all the guys so they were, too. Most comments I got from the foremen were about the positive energy I have. They appreciated the hard work I put in even tho it was obvious I was a rookie, I eventually started working at the same speed as everyone else.
@@RaphaelNano nice
Yes! After a year of being out of school I’ve been trying to look for a job and no call backs. Now I added a position that’s similar to what I’ve done and just got two interviews within the three weeks I’ve been job searching again... Lies have gotten me all my jobs honestly.
Raphael Nano boss shit
One of my old bosses worked for 25 years listing her bachelor's. It turns out she was one credit shy and never actually got her degree. She never knew, and no employers ever verified the degree. Only one job she applied to during her career checked her education. They notified her, and she then took a class online and was awarded her bachelor's over 20 years later
Wow... She had to have known about it if she never got her degree sent to her though Lol
@@anthonyt219 seriously lmfao
@@anthonyt219I mean to be fair, when I graduated they sent my degree to my grandparents address (it's what I kept listed as mine for tax reasons), guess they got it never told me. I found it 14 years after I graduated, unopened in a box in their attic.
@@obi-juantacobi8552 almost like the reward you got from that education you carried around and didnt enshrine on a $0.30 piece of paper…. credentialism is a cancer
@@anthonyt219some people don’t realize they’re shy a couple credit because they’re still allowed to walk
I needed to hear this. Thanks man!
Thanks for all this great info, I hope you have a positive future ahead of you
one of my college professors told me that the best way to get any job is to stretch the truth pretty far. anything you don't know you can learn quickly and under pressure you'll learn it even quicker. Nobody knows what they will do or how, in any job, and the job will teach you no matter what the situation. Get the job first, learn the job as they teach it, and move forward.
I think this is true a lot of the time but it can go wrong too. Not too long ago I took a job that most get degrees for without any degrees or related experience myself. I actually was getting it down, but my coworkers were incredibly impatient when I would make inevitable mistakes or not immediately know how to do something.
Bottom line, this idea works if you get a job with friendly and forgiving people, but this can also piss certain people off quickly too.
@@shamfyre Almost every boss I've had has lied so hard on their resume to get their position and it's so frustrating because often internal candidates get overlooked for promotion but then they hire someone from the outside who has the luxury of being able to exaggerate.
@NatashaEstrada at the end of the day, I would say that selling yourself is a skill in itself. You can be the most honest person in the world and under sell yourself but ultimately that is your own fault.
I am not saying you have to straight up lie to be a competitive job applicant btw, but exaggerating a detail here or omitting something there is fair game imo.
@@shamfyre The problem is if you have a role that is not in any way shape or forme related to sales then having to sell yourself is exhausting.
I'm trying to be more dishonest but it is anxiety-inducing. It's more annoying having to lift the load of people who don't know what the eff they are going. THAT I'm not doing anymore.
You're gonna have to live and die by your own lies.
@@shamfyre I've also elaborate that internal candidates don't have the luxury of lying about their last job since everyone knows what your currently doing. So that's a little unfair.
There should be some kind of compensating scale. Say an external candidate has to be 1.3x better to accommodate for white lies.
Person trying to get a job:
3 hours to make a resume
20 to 30 minutes to fill out an application
Employer:
sees one thing they don't like in
2 seconds and throws everything you did in the trash
Story of my life
I know.
Not only that, unlike years ago, you’re supposed to tailor your resume to each job. Then, you go into some online system, fill out everything, including your pet’s name and no one ever even knows you applied, because something in the system kicks it out or the job was published, but they already had someone in mind for the job, who’s working inside as a contractor already, that they have them fill out the application to be sent directly to HQ. Ask me how I know. Because I was that person inside.
And it’s weird, too. I actually got contacted by a former VP I used to work for, who wanted to work there. I was glad to help as, I liked him but, he didn’t get the job and I was never told why. Probably had someone else in mind already.
Also every employer: why is this job the perfect job for you that you’ve been dreaming of your whole life?
@@brandonjordahl2283 because I need to pay bills and buy sh*t to compensate for looking at you. That’s fcking why.😂
Well this is ind of heart breaking but eye opening at the same time. Thank you for making this video, I've been having a really hard time this year beeing a phd dropout. I really hate having to do this but if that's the game recruiters want to play so be it.