That just looks so frustrating to be in your POV, rental karting is filled with newbies trying to be Max Verstappen, and angry people that think you hit them when they have no idea what happened, like when that guy just drove you into a wall.
It's just something you have to expect and accept with indoor rental karting public sessions. I normally just do outdoor now though which generally has a high skilled pool of drivers compared to indoor.
@@degeautd40 online racing at lower levels can be like that but when you start to rank up and get with similar skilled people, it can be some of the most enjoyable racing you do. AI in games now though like ams2 is really good and can give comparable experiences.
Its a really enjoyable track. I think I was 2/10's off Nico's time from when I went last week. Once you have a clear track without having to be forced to slow down under yelllow with the slow restart process then Its good!
Wow, that's super quick! And yeh, when there is a clear track it's enjoyable but as with most indoor karting public sessions, they're filled with yellow flags.
Yeh though it's not consistent across all karts so some are able to carry more speed through the start of yellow sectors. And yep, electric karts, it's the way that indoor karting is moving to in the UK. You won't find many new Indoor tracks with petrol karts anymore.
Yeh, when you're focused on the track ahead, it's hard to keep up with the data on the wheel. The main one to see is your position though which is nice and big in the middle so that's nice.
@@degeautd40 yeh pretty much. The audio ques for drs and stuff are useful I found. Let you know when it's ready to be used rather than having to glance at the wheel.
In the beginning of this video the concept seemed kinda nice with all the graphics and the lights etc. but that all fell apart for me with all these yellow flags and those drivers. The best thing about karting is that it's just you and the machine and nothing between that, but with this it seems like you're always being hindered no matter what you do. It went from "oh I have to try that" to "nah" real quick for me once it got going.
I think it would be a lot better if you go with a group of mates who are all decent at karting. A public session like this is just leaving you open for the chaos that they are known for.
I went recently to see if it was any good, would not go back! Huge delay to our race due to a lady crashing and crying her eyes out. Wasn't assigned a kart and the trackside staff made me go to race control to fix it for them. Then my kart was super slow during quali (15 secs off the pace), I stopped to let a marshal know and it wouldn't start again. Then halfway through the race my new kart was slowing down at a few points on the track leading to me tumbling down the order and getting bumped in the butt constantly as the other drivers weren't expecting anyone to slow in those spots! Was a mess of a day overall and the staff seemed more interested in flirting with each other than dealing with customers. All that for the most expensive kart session I've tried. I got maybe 10 mins of clean running at full power. Still, the start of the race was fun as I don't usually do standing starts (until someone spun on turn 3 of course and the yellows came out). The thing I noticed with the yellows is that some karts took longer to register yellows than others. But those same karts would then take longer to register it going green again, meaning it was total luck if this staggered slowdown helped or hindered them, depending where they were on track.
However, man... one thing I can't say: high-end wheel experience - bad racing experience. No electric kart can beat a gas kart. However, it's good to see different approaches to make it more attractive.
This is why I always prefer outdoor tracks. In fact, Electroheads, led by Rob Smedley has already enhanced outdoor e-karting racing by trialling at Whilton Mill back in 2020. Of course, F1 Drive will be expensive due to upkeep and franchise name, but I think its time tracks like Buckmore, Whilton Mill and other tracks that rake in the income start to consider a more sustainable approach, especially in the next 10 years.
I have been there once and got lap of the year with a lap time around 43.133 but overall it’s a good bit of fun (I have done outdoor racing for 8 years going on 9)
I get that the skill level is usually very low in rental karts but its insane to me how much people crash, its so so hard to crash in a rental kart 💀 half the time is usually spent with yellow flags in all indoor
The constant yellow flags is very common for indoor rentals and make the experience pretty boring. It's the main reason I don't do indoor any more other than rare situations like this where there's a cool new track to try.
£70 only gets you the reduced speed version. The elite session is £85! Crazy prices. It's cheaper to do a 40 min outdoor karting race and a lot more fun
Thank you! Your track guide helped quite a lot. Just wish I had more full green laps at the end to try and beat my time. Your time was insane though! You smashed Hulkenberg's and were still the all time fastest when I went. For the camera, I use the go pro hero 12. Recorded at 4k60. I had to bump up the ISO though as it was quite dark inside so it added some grain to the video. When karting outdoors where there is a lot more light, I like to use 4k30 with a shutter speed of around 1/96 to give some motion blur and add to the sense of speed. Normally need to use an ND filter though so to not over expose the shot.
@@Rahullll Awesome! I didn't know Hulkenberg drove the track but it's nice to know there's been some F1 drivers there now. Btw, did you have to ask permission to use your GoPro? I recorded my session using a CAMBOX but would have loved to use my GoPro for better quality!
@@kartingtips they were saying that he was there on the Saturday I think. Got a 44 second lap I believe. I just had the go pro on my helmet and no one said anything. Thinking about it, I didn't actually check if I needed permission to record.
Thank you! 😄 I wish I had some more full green flag racing at the end to try and beat my time. My fastest was a 45.31 but I think there was at least a second for me to gain on that.
i got ptsd from hearing yellow flag in this video DAMN. just as you would line up for overtakes as well, jesus also: the desperate DRS button pressing lmao
To be fair, the skill level was alright. Yeh there was some dodgy racing etiquette but that's always expected in open sessions. Overall it was a good set of drivers
Hold on. Isn’t it supposed to be a 15min session? From start to finish, that was only 11m 44s! Did you cut anything out of the video or was the race really 3mins shorter? Because that’s like a fifth of the race cut and for the money, that’s a liberty!
I dont know if its because of the camera fov or the framerate but it kinda seemed not that fast to be honest, i would like to try it but im too far away from it
It's the shutter speed for a sense of speed. I normally go for around 1/96 with 24fps to get some nice motion blur and sense of speed. As it was quite dark on here, I upped the ISO and set the shutter speed to auto. This makes each frame sharper and so the sense of speed is reduced. The karts themselves aren't that fast as well but no less than other indoor tracks. They're electric biz karts, commonly found at other indoor tracks. The elite session runs them at speed 4 with other sessions at 3 or below.
That was a slow reaction to the lights however, not your fault because they've put P1 on the outside of the grid which means every one can dive bomb you into the first corner. That's well stupid!
No though that's all part of the reason you go here. It is trying to build an F1 atmosphere. If you want an experience that is more focused on the karting, an open race at one of the many outdoor tracks would be money better spent
The website says that you are not allowed to use filming equipment on your helmet. You will have to speak with the staff there to see if you can get permission to record.
@@Rahullll I meant as in how heavy the steering is, because normal karts steering gets heavy after a long session. But I suppose 15 mins ain't that long 🤣
I used my own racing suit as I know it fits exactly as I want compared to rental suits which never seem to be right for me. You are allowed to wear your own suit at pretty much all rental karting venues in the UK as long as they meet the track's specification. Mine is a Sparco karting suit which is suitable for all rental karting.
There is a drs button that gives your kart a little boost in dedicated zones. It's not a real drs and there are no moving parts changing the aero of the kart. You use the drs on the two drs straights any time during the quali and when you're 1 second behind the kart in front during the race.
Jeez, electric karts, with fake engine noise?! No thanks! TBH the circuit itself looks fairly interesting, but as for the karts & WTF is that "DRS"?! Nope, will definitely stick to proper karts & motors thanks!
I don't think it's really their fault. The track had an auto slowdown system for yellow flags so when there is one, you can keep your pedal fully pressed and your kart will slow to a yellow flag pace. It was just that for some kart, this system seems to be delayed so they would be able to carry a lot more speed during a yellow flag.
I wonder what the owners of REAL karting tracks will say when they see this video. In my humble opinion, the circuit and karts are an absolute piece of shit
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That just looks so frustrating to be in your POV, rental karting is filled with newbies trying to be Max Verstappen, and angry people that think you hit them when they have no idea what happened, like when that guy just drove you into a wall.
It's just something you have to expect and accept with indoor rental karting public sessions. I normally just do outdoor now though which generally has a high skilled pool of drivers compared to indoor.
Real
@Rahullll above all enjoy it mate why don't play online races to much bumping out no reason
@@degeautd40 online racing at lower levels can be like that but when you start to rank up and get with similar skilled people, it can be some of the most enjoyable racing you do. AI in games now though like ams2 is really good and can give comparable experiences.
There is only one SUPER MAX
I don't care if it's electric indoor karts, this looks like so much fun
I'd be sitting there thinking "OMG, just start the bloody race!"
Its a really enjoyable track. I think I was 2/10's off Nico's time from when I went last week. Once you have a clear track without having to be forced to slow down under yelllow with the slow restart process then Its good!
Wow, that's super quick! And yeh, when there is a clear track it's enjoyable but as with most indoor karting public sessions, they're filled with yellow flags.
Formula E Karts and the sound of the exhaust
Yeh I guess it is similar to formula E with them being electric
@@Rahullll is this auto slowing down when it is a yellow flag ? are these carts Electric too ?
Yeh though it's not consistent across all karts so some are able to carry more speed through the start of yellow sectors. And yep, electric karts, it's the way that indoor karting is moving to in the UK. You won't find many new Indoor tracks with petrol karts anymore.
Looks amazing. But i dont know if i could deal with the audio coming from the wheel. And too much stuff on the telementry screen id get confused 🤣
Yeh, when you're focused on the track ahead, it's hard to keep up with the data on the wheel. The main one to see is your position though which is nice and big in the middle so that's nice.
@@Rahullllonly on straight can glance at data
@@degeautd40 yeh pretty much. The audio ques for drs and stuff are useful I found. Let you know when it's ready to be used rather than having to glance at the wheel.
Now you know how F1 Drivers' feel (Especially Kimi Raikkonen)
In the beginning of this video the concept seemed kinda nice with all the graphics and the lights etc. but that all fell apart for me with all these yellow flags and those drivers. The best thing about karting is that it's just you and the machine and nothing between that, but with this it seems like you're always being hindered no matter what you do. It went from "oh I have to try that" to "nah" real quick for me once it got going.
I think it would be a lot better if you go with a group of mates who are all decent at karting. A public session like this is just leaving you open for the chaos that they are known for.
I absolutely freak when I get punted during races. Best to stay calm and just do your best laps.
Exactly!
@@Rahullllsame me just think OK it's gone get head back in the game
I went recently to see if it was any good, would not go back!
Huge delay to our race due to a lady crashing and crying her eyes out. Wasn't assigned a kart and the trackside staff made me go to race control to fix it for them. Then my kart was super slow during quali (15 secs off the pace), I stopped to let a marshal know and it wouldn't start again. Then halfway through the race my new kart was slowing down at a few points on the track leading to me tumbling down the order and getting bumped in the butt constantly as the other drivers weren't expecting anyone to slow in those spots!
Was a mess of a day overall and the staff seemed more interested in flirting with each other than dealing with customers. All that for the most expensive kart session I've tried. I got maybe 10 mins of clean running at full power. Still, the start of the race was fun as I don't usually do standing starts (until someone spun on turn 3 of course and the yellows came out).
The thing I noticed with the yellows is that some karts took longer to register yellows than others. But those same karts would then take longer to register it going green again, meaning it was total luck if this staggered slowdown helped or hindered them, depending where they were on track.
14:20 through goes hamilton moment😃
you would think an F1 kart would have F1 livery
I was thinking that as well. Probably a licensing issue I guess
However, man... one thing I can't say: high-end wheel experience - bad racing experience. No electric kart can beat a gas kart. However, it's good to see different approaches to make it more attractive.
That looks so fun
Can’t wait to try it when I go in may, going to be down at Buckmore for kroc so might aswell try it out while I’m down that way
Deffo worth giving a go at least once I'd say. Though try to go with a group of karting friends if you can so to have a good level of skill on track.
@@Rahullllsadly only going to be 3 of us going down due to the fact it’s nearly 8 hours away for us
Oh wow! That is a long way to travel. Worth it though if you're going buckmore as well. One of my favourite tracks
Looks sick! Nice racing
Thank you!
People saying this looks slow, looks amazing to me
@@adamturner8217 I think if it was any faster then there would have been a lot more yellow flags!
Looks fun!
Yeh it was pretty cool. I probably won't be going again but would recommend trying it out one time.
This is why I always prefer outdoor tracks. In fact, Electroheads, led by Rob Smedley has already enhanced outdoor e-karting racing by trialling at Whilton Mill back in 2020.
Of course, F1 Drive will be expensive due to upkeep and franchise name, but I think its time tracks like Buckmore, Whilton Mill and other tracks that rake in the income start to consider a more sustainable approach, especially in the next 10 years.
Amazing 🔥
6:36 bro overtakes the last guy💀
14:34 lol those yellow flag sensors need some checking
Yeh lol, I was so confused how he just zoomed ahead
This is going to need major up-keeping by the employees!!!!
Who designed the starting grid!?!? P1 on the outside of turn 1 and 2 hehe. Seems almost impossible to stay in the lead off the start
Yeh, it is quite a silly design
All the yellow flags are very annoying, I hate when they slow down karts over minor incidents. This is why gas karting is better 🔥🔥🔥
I have been there once and got lap of the year with a lap time around 43.133 but overall it’s a good bit of fun (I have done outdoor racing for 8 years going on 9)
Nice one
I get that the skill level is usually very low in rental karts but its insane to me how much people crash, its so so hard to crash in a rental kart 💀 half the time is usually spent with yellow flags in all indoor
The constant yellow flags is very common for indoor rentals and make the experience pretty boring. It's the main reason I don't do indoor any more other than rare situations like this where there's a cool new track to try.
My issue, is that it is £70 for arrive and drive.
When you can go teamsport Edmonton and do a proper race or lakeside
£70 only gets you the reduced speed version. The elite session is £85! Crazy prices. It's cheaper to do a 40 min outdoor karting race and a lot more fun
@@Rahullll what! i can do a 5 hour test day a PFI in my rotax for that much
@@sam-sj1nc the key thing is though, your rotax doesn't talk to you like these karts do 😎 but yeh, these are absolutely bonkers prices
Whenever a yellow flag gets turns into green you should pop the ERS immediately if you can so you can get the pull on the guy behind
That's a good idea
Amazing video! The track looks super cool 🤩 what was your favourite bit?
Being able to get a full lap in without a yellow flag
🔥🔥🔥
Those wheels dont look connected, its like your holding an ipad taped to some old telephones. And why are the buttons so high?
Outdoor karting circuits are so much better. I don’t think I’d cope in this environment.
100%. Most of the time they're cheaper as well.
This looks fun
it is quite cool and worth giving a go at least once I'd say
Nice driving mate 🙌 What camera did you use? The quality is amazing!
Thank you! Your track guide helped quite a lot. Just wish I had more full green laps at the end to try and beat my time. Your time was insane though! You smashed Hulkenberg's and were still the all time fastest when I went.
For the camera, I use the go pro hero 12. Recorded at 4k60. I had to bump up the ISO though as it was quite dark inside so it added some grain to the video. When karting outdoors where there is a lot more light, I like to use 4k30 with a shutter speed of around 1/96 to give some motion blur and add to the sense of speed. Normally need to use an ND filter though so to not over expose the shot.
@@Rahullll Awesome! I didn't know Hulkenberg drove the track but it's nice to know there's been some F1 drivers there now. Btw, did you have to ask permission to use your GoPro? I recorded my session using a CAMBOX but would have loved to use my GoPro for better quality!
@@kartingtips they were saying that he was there on the Saturday I think. Got a 44 second lap I believe.
I just had the go pro on my helmet and no one said anything. Thinking about it, I didn't actually check if I needed permission to record.
@@Rahullll Nice! Your footage is really clear and if anything it's going to encourage people to book sessions at the track :)
@@Rahulllllove cockpit cams in any racing real or sim
Nice race pace👍 What was your fastest lap time on the track on that day?
Thank you! 😄 I wish I had some more full green flag racing at the end to try and beat my time. My fastest was a 45.31 but I think there was at least a second for me to gain on that.
i got ptsd from hearing yellow flag in this video DAMN. just as you would line up for overtakes as well, jesus
also: the desperate DRS button pressing lmao
Timing of them was so frustrating.
And yeh lol, I didn't know if the drs had activated so was just spamming it to make sure it worked
honestly i personally feel like gokarting is controlled and they can make whoeever they want to win
Lol I doubt the people working there care that much. Not much riding on a public race
They should also have a button where you can talk to race control!! 😂
I definitely would have been abusing that button near the end of this race haha
Looks fun but why the full racing suit?
I go karting every couple of weeks so it's easier having my own gear. Especially wet weather bits.
Is that David Croft announcer in F1 Drive London?
It's a recording of him yeh. Also they have Naomi Schiff
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Bunch of first timers that think it’s bumper cars lol
To be fair, the skill level was alright. Yeh there was some dodgy racing etiquette but that's always expected in open sessions. Overall it was a good set of drivers
Hold on. Isn’t it supposed to be a 15min session? From start to finish, that was only 11m 44s! Did you cut anything out of the video or was the race really 3mins shorter? Because that’s like a fifth of the race cut and for the money, that’s a liberty!
It's 15 minutes of on track time, not from the start of the race. So all the time getting to the grid and waiting for others is part of the 15 minutes
What a con
Especially as it says it’s a 15min race on the website!
It's the same for all tracks at least across the UK. The advertised time is on track time rather than actual racing time
14:21 through goes HAMILTON!
Does F1 Drive needs more locations like Texas and more European states
Ca avait l'air sympa au début! Mais au final une session comme ça tu ressors frustré mdrr
Trop de yellow inutile + les relance full aleatoire ^^
oui
he mentioned 3:25 was the start of the race
I dont know if its because of the camera fov or the framerate but it kinda seemed not that fast to be honest, i would like to try it but im too far away from it
It's the shutter speed for a sense of speed. I normally go for around 1/96 with 24fps to get some nice motion blur and sense of speed. As it was quite dark on here, I upped the ISO and set the shutter speed to auto. This makes each frame sharper and so the sense of speed is reduced. The karts themselves aren't that fast as well but no less than other indoor tracks. They're electric biz karts, commonly found at other indoor tracks. The elite session runs them at speed 4 with other sessions at 3 or below.
That was a slow reaction to the lights however, not your fault because they've put P1 on the outside of the grid which means every one can dive bomb you into the first corner. That's well stupid!
They have changed it now, so P1 is on the inside.
May I confirm the camera provided by the them or by your own?
My own
What’s the difference between elite and sprint super?
Kart speeds, track size and grid start
Looks gimmicky but really fun!!
It is a fun one. I still prefer outdoor karting but this was a good one to experience.
I’m gonna say your at the tottenham football stadium?
Yep. This is pretty much underneath the stadium I believe
Lap record? Looks nice.
I think 43 seconds
fire the steering wheel designer.
Is it possible to turn off the artificial noise
No though that's all part of the reason you go here. It is trying to build an F1 atmosphere. If you want an experience that is more focused on the karting, an open race at one of the many outdoor tracks would be money better spent
Do the cars automatically slow down on yellow flags?
In theory they should be as you can see from the video, it's not that consistent across the karts
Can ypu use a gopro while driving?
No, not allowed
@@Rahullll do you need a special permit? Coz i see youtubers like you using go pro while driving.
The website says that you are not allowed to use filming equipment on your helmet. You will have to speak with the staff there to see if you can get permission to record.
@@Rahullll yeah I read that. But how do you guys differ from other people? Just wondering
We don't. Have to ask like anyone else.
Is steering as heavy ad the petrol karts?
Does engine type affect the steering weight? I thought it'd be more to do with tyre/track grip, chassis, weight distribution etc.
@@Rahullll just wanted to know if there was a difference with the steering.
@@Shads187 no idea
@@Rahullll I meant as in how heavy the steering is, because normal karts steering gets heavy after a long session. But I suppose 15 mins ain't that long 🤣
@@Shads187 I've never found karting steering to get heavy but the longest I've raced is only 1 hour so not that long
why do u hit the throttle so hard like chill
Maximum acceleration
why would you give up p1 for drs
Because I paid £85 and wanted to get my money's worth and have some fun rather than a lonely race at the front lol
Buttons seem awkward on wheel
They're not in the most easily accessible locations
that yellow flags are annoying...was super hyped up from the start...it actually sucks!!
Yeh, they were at the worst times as well. Just as I was lining up for an overtake
how did you record this?
With a go pro
nice that you got allowed to use your racing suit, may I ask you how and why?
I used my own racing suit as I know it fits exactly as I want compared to rental suits which never seem to be right for me. You are allowed to wear your own suit at pretty much all rental karting venues in the UK as long as they meet the track's specification. Mine is a Sparco karting suit which is suitable for all rental karting.
mmm maybe they changed, I went on the first day and me and some others weren't allowed to use it @@Rahullll
@@WesleyXXIII could have just been new staff who weren't 100% sure on the rules and so didn't want to take any chances
also yea@@Rahullll
Rahul Bhai jalde se f1 main stream driver Bano yrr
Haha yeh man
Is there DRS?
There is a drs button that gives your kart a little boost in dedicated zones. It's not a real drs and there are no moving parts changing the aero of the kart.
You use the drs on the two drs straights any time during the quali and when you're 1 second behind the kart in front during the race.
Electric?
Yep, that's pretty much the way all indoor karting is moving towards. At least in the UK
@@Rahullll gotta say it's quite wierd, I personally don't like eletric cars/motors in general, but in an F1 Drive?!? Feels kinda funny
Jeez, electric karts, with fake engine noise?! No thanks!
TBH the circuit itself looks fairly interesting, but as for the karts & WTF is that "DRS"?!
Nope, will definitely stick to proper karts & motors thanks!
These dirty drivers, how they going full speed during a yellow flag.
I don't think it's really their fault. The track had an auto slowdown system for yellow flags so when there is one, you can keep your pedal fully pressed and your kart will slow to a yellow flag pace. It was just that for some kart, this system seems to be delayed so they would be able to carry a lot more speed during a yellow flag.
@@Rahullll oh damn I thought they did it on purpose
The fake engine noises is fucking stupid but looks fun
It's all part of trying to create the F1 atmosphere
some non existent racing etiquette all around 😀
It's what to be expected in an open race
Doesn't look like an 'elite session' in terms of some of the drivers!
Lol yeh, I guess this was not an elite skilled lobby
pole position
yes!
Poor driving it was more like bumper cars!
Classic public indoor karting session
shit like 14:40 is what ruins the whole thing. when the system is poorly implemented it ruins the whole experience
This sucks. Just give me a kart and let's race.
I wouldn't say it sucks. There are definitely better karting experiences you can have for much less money but this one didn't suck.
F1 2026
If the budget cap was £1,000
Steering wheel angle is bad 👎
It's alright. The main issue is the button placement.
You have to sit there for two minutes listening to all that drivel? Gees christ that's well annoying.
these karts look horrible
I've been in worse. These aren't that bad.
Imo this is not enjoyable at all
I found there to be some enjoyment in it. Albeit not as much as other karting experiences but still some there.
I wonder what the owners of REAL karting tracks will say when they see this video.
In my humble opinion, the circuit and karts are an absolute piece of shit
What makes something a real karting track?