This lookd far less than whait I would have expected, even if there’s still a massive (MASSIVE) gap with Tennis, which is hard to understand considering how Badminton is popular in Asia…
Lovely video. But this just shows that badminton is just a very underpaid, undervalued and underestimated sport. Such a shame considering it’s probably one of the most fascinating sport to watch.
I kind of want to make videos of badminton content, but dunno where to start. I just got back to it after many years. Im sad i did not get very into it early on in my life, such an interesting and fun sport. And also got back due to some reasons of me needing to keep away from Physical and Contact Sports
Loved this video, nice to see a thorough breakdown on how much badminton players earn. And as far as I've seen from the video, it's not that easy becoming a professional badminton player, keep it up, you guys are the best! Also, it's quite sad to see that other sports pay so much better salaries to low ranked players than higher ranked players in badminton. Hopefully one day badminton will get the same attention like the other sports in the future.
Probably the most insightful badminton video for any young aspiring badminton player there is out there. As a coach i will definitely be passing this video on to my club junior players to hopefully enspire them further. You guys continue to impress me, will def join patreon. Great work guys and look forward to the next one.
Interesting take with your videos👍😊 Many cool and in depth details that you only might now if you are in the game. Thanks for the insights and honesty 🙏🙏
P V Sindhu was ranked 7 in Forbes list of top earning female atheletes in 2018 and 2020. She was the only badminton player in top 10 of Forbes list since then.
Look players in india earn a lot of money. Just look at neeraj chopra he won india 2nd individual olympic gold and first olympics atheletics medal . And his brand value increased by 20 times now .😂😂😂😂.
The most surprising part in my school life was that sindhu studied in the same school. She was 5 year’s junior and we realized that after she won Olympic silver.
I really like your videos and helped me to improve my game significantly at Amateur level. However, I like the part where you talk about your situation, and that is the most impressive part of the video for me. This is because, your channel belongs to one of the top 10 sites that provide a total efficient content for small badminton community. Thank you for your efforts and consistency in keeping up the content useful things and your precious time.
You are consistently the only channel I leave comments on. You guys are simply amazing. Factual, yet super accessible and friendly. Love your channel and have watched many of your videos. If I could make a suggestion, if there’s players like me getting back into badminton after some years away from the sport, some basic breakdowns of even just the core shots would be great. I watched your forehand video and it’s great but wonder if you could find or use footage of people sending you clips if they are okay with you using them where you could analyze their swing. I know you offered that service on your website as a whole match analysis but I was more wondering about individual shots examples. For me, I’ve lost some of the techniques where I feel like I don’t generate enough power even on the clear nor smash and it would be great to see examples of players following you that you could us to illustrate how to hit proper shots. Sorry for the rambling post but keep up your amazing work. So happy you guys are creating all this content.
Thank you so much! 🤗 Your comment means a lot! And thanks for the suggestion, we've done 2 subscriber analysis videos in the past few months - have you seen those?
@@BadmintonInsight I have and those have been great. But from what I remember they focused more on general shot selection and placement. Not as much their technique. Anyway not a bit deal. Love all your content.
thanks for the great insight! personally, i feel that badminton players should be rewarded more due to the hard work they put in. badminton is definitely not an easy sport and players are definitely underpaid. but i hope that in the future, badminton could get more recognition around the world as a remarkable sport and hopefully lead to an increase in prize/sponsorship money. great video!
unfortunately players of any sport don't get paid for the hard work that they put in, they get paid for the viewers that they draw. badminton is popular only in southeast asia (low income countries) so sponsorships and ads don't pay as well as tennis (popular in high income countries) even though badminton is played by more number of people.
Wow.. this is really insightful.. Although the top players make really good money, the lower ranked players below rank 32 really play for the love of the game than earning a good living. With all the sacrifices of time and other career and finding a spouse, we really salute all you great badminton players performing throughout the year and giving us so much enjoyment. thanks all you great players and hope that you will be blessed with many good things in life.
Makes me feel a bit sad seeing how much less top players of badminton earn compare to other sports 😢 I feel like there is so much untapped potential when the players have to do part time jobs to fund their careers.
Very interesting, thanks for being so transparent. Hearing your estimation on Axelsen's income just makes me think whether LCW or Lin dan would've made more money in today's economy.
Your channel is so good. In every technical badminton video, there is so much to learn. My advice is to start analysing more games of players across the world. More indian players content please.
I really admire players like you too. As I knew most of the players from my contry don't need to care about the spendings. After retired they can find positions in government. For badminton players in England, it's hard to make money like footballers and tennis players. But there are still players like you two keep fighting and received such a good performance. Good luck in your badminton career!
Super interesting, unique and transparent video. Well done the two of you and I hope it inspires some UK talented people to double their efforts to break into the top 33. I also hope it powers you to a million subscribers and the returns you deserve. 😊
What an informative post!! You did great research as usual. Surprised and sad to know that elite badminton players are earning much less than Premier league footballers or tennis players. Expenses are too much for lower ranking players and cannot expect sponsorship money for their tournaments. How do you expect the earning of the badminton players in the near future? Thank you so much for sharing great video again!
Very sad that this is the reality of a professional badminton Player. Good to see you raising awareness, hopefully things will change with more transparency. Good video!
Very nice video about the monetary side of a badminton player. One interesting thing that I found from Japan’s national team and players is that they have company teams that sponsor them with the national team for international tournaments. And if they decide to retire or not haven’t a lot of participated tournaments in the season due to circumstances, they can work for their company at least to get make a living.
Another differential with Tennis is that in badminton, singles, doubles and mixed get the same prize money, which is muvh more inclusive of different disciplines than tennis is where it’s all about singles. And that regardless of the fact that not that long ago prize money for women were far lower than for men…
This is my view, this depends on country to country. In India, most of the Badminton players within top 100 ranking are well to do and they have sponsors these days unlike 10 years ago. Time is changing and we will see changes in Badminton too. Huge fan of badminton, I wish this happen soon in future.
In China, national team players get paid from country so they are not worried about their living or training at all. Players retired from national team can easily find jobs in badminton academy or universities because badminton is very very popular in China.
I can provide some examples from the players I know. In China, some provincial team players(ranked 200+) do part-time jobs as badminton coaches. Their individual courses usually take 300-400 RMB per hour(which equals 50-66 $). Every weekend they can earn 600-800$ with their part-time jobs.
Another super enlighting video. Is there a big differential between Europe and Asia players (Sindhu and TTY being stellar obviously)? I would expect there would be considering the popularity gap of the sport between the continents…
It was reported that the Indonesian WD Olympic champions got land, houses and even a business retail shop after their win (can't remember exactly if that's accurate though)
@@happywolfie1980 I think its more down to the fact that those countries are much cheaper to live in and a lower income in Europe would be considered a high income in Indonesia etc
Well of course the fame of winning in Badminton tournaments are way bigger in Asia than Europe But Europe are often way more expensive than Asia - well not sure about Taiwan or Hongkong :)
@@laktho lakshya sen made fun of european hotel rooms in the antonsen interview. He said they are extremely small and expensive. In Malaysia you would get a luxury suite for a cheaper price than that lol
A family friend of ours "worked" for the military, but all he did was play badminton at a high level. I dont think that structure exsists anymore, but it was apparantly how athletes of lesser-paying sports were supported in this country for decades. thanks for the video. Im just going to stick to my dayjob as a teacher and play badminton for fun :D
I saw somewhere Badminton has more "in play" time than a Men's tennis match. It's a sport that can be played (at recreation & club level) fairly inexpensively and something I look forward to enjoy till my limbs cannot move. However, it is a shame that there is not much money for a pro. It's hard to make it a career, esp. given that most of the revenue streams dry up by mid-30s. What's the reason? It's such a beautiful, fast game. Has enough thrilling minutes per game. A few breaks to sneak in commercials. Asians love it (ergo: more people & hence commercially should be attractive). Why? Why Why?
It is not spectator friendly as tennis. In tennis, spectators are right next to the court but very strange that badminton courts are sort of isolated from crowd. There is no variation in badminton, all indoors, same surface. Tennis has various surfaces, you need more skills to succeed on all surfaces. It is played both indoors and most importantly outdoors too. Tennis is famous in richer countries. Tennis has perhaps richer history then badminton, iconic players iconic matches. Badminton is too short to earn TV money.
Thanks again, it also would be nice to see how you Greg and Jenny are now making considering the very well deserved success of your channel and how that impacts your sponsorship?
Very interesting! It feels like a cultural shift is needed for the sport to see any significant increase in money for players. If you live in a high income society, outside the top 32, there's really no financial incentive to pursue badminton.
I really enjoy badminton i judt started on Friday but its the most fun ive had in a couple of years and i feel really motivated to practice everyday and try my hardest to become a professional, but the nesrest court is 1hour and 25 min away and ive judt been playing a little with my sibling but he doesn't really want to play badminton. Do im going to have to quit i really feels sad but there are no clubs no courts or players near me. So thabks for all of the tutorials ive watched these past few days from you guys and have a good one.
One thing I learned... Badminton needs to get more popular ;/ . I love badminton and hope there's more attention to it in the future, thank you for trying to make it more widespread!
Guys, thank you so much for this video - I always wondered what are the earning rates in badminton. Money is not everything as long as you do what you love! Personally I love many sports! I've loved playing football, baskeball and now badminton (all on recrational/amatour level) and can't imagine living without sport and I think that this is the most important... I love your channel - keep up the good work. I can't imagine one of you delivering pizza though :)
A very informative video highlighting the greater rewards for those at the peak of the game. If English players are going to return to that platform BE will need a thorough overhaul. The engagement of Morten Frost is a good sign, but only if he has the authority and clearance for a root and branch restructuring of people and processes.
The prize information, although public, are mostly scattered across the web. Thanks for gathering them and providing your own insight on top of the numbers. Considering how popular badminton is, compared to tennis, it really doesn't do justice for the prize money. Could it be related to badminton being more of a "National sport" than an individual sport, like tennis? btw, "Tsang" has a tricky pronunciation, and its not the same as tang😉
Tennis is historically a rich man sports like golf which also attracts huge sponsors and media coverage. Badminton has become an asian sport, and is not all linked to the white rich people of Europe and the US. The same goes for table tennis
Was considering going all in in my training, thank you for opening my eyes :D I rather continue with my software engineering job. Better paid profession even in 3rd world countries.
Hey Jenny, Greg, Great content as always and Merry Christmas! Question - if you had known the earnings potential back then would you both have gone down this road? Its personal so won't blame you if there is no answer! Good luck from Paris (said hi on Reddit! :)
@@BadmintonInsight I can see that you love the sport, apart from being pro and creating insight videos, the way you both conduct yourselves shows it in truckloads! I hope you guys will come to France for 2024.🍀 Idea - I would love to see guest interviews from the ENG team and/or other high level players! I think your dialogue makes it work.
This is very insightful, thanks. The numbers read terrible and it's a courageous career pursuit. The coaching and logistics cost more to get to top 50 than the revenue.
I've also heard that for some countries in the past, they may pay a pension or reward for players that bring home podium finishes at major tournaments/events like Olympics.
Hi Greg 👋 Hi Jenny 👋 Thank you for such an inspiring video 😊😊 If you don’t mind me asking… “Do you actually earn money from playing in the University league or wining the BUCS competitions?”
Congrats to this video, I hope this will get a movement started! Unfortunately it is the image of Badminton that needs to be fixed as the percetion is very often "casual, recreational activity with friends in the garden". Being the second-most popular sport in the world, only after Soccer, it is selling way behind it's full potential. Thanks to you guys we now have excellent material to start infiltrating the masses :-)
Don't certain countries offer big extra bonus for winning big tournaments like world champ and Olympics? I'm sure I've seen Indonesia do it, and some others like Singapore for Loh (publicly funded though).
Wow - mid tier badminton players must have a passion for their sport. It is hardly lucrative... But cheers to all you're doing with the channel! Best of luck moving forward.
For winning the Yonex all England the male singles player gained 70000 pounds/ dollars.The winner of Wimbledon earns 2000,000 pounds.Badminton players are paid a derisory amount of money for the hard work that goes into it.The Yonex all England is the in the highest tier of competition with the exception of the World tour finals.That is a disgrace.You all seriously deserve better.
Regarding national leagues, obviously a lot of this is going to be hearsay, but for many asian countries, the domestic amateur league can get pretty brutal. I once heard a friend tell me when he went back to china to play in one of these leagues, he saw Bao Yi Xin playing. This was after she already retired from international badminton. The word on the grapevine was that the charge out rate was something like 100k RMB, though I wasn't sure if that was a daily or rate for the entire league. Obligatory take with a huge grain of salt, but I don't think this is entirely unbelievable.
Very poor players. See the income of top 100 football players, tennis players or even in cricketers. But salute to badminton players for their passion, dedication and love for the game.
lucky for you that both of you are intelligent and likeable…and most likely figured out that this channel will help you financially more than anything. but yeah, the money below 32 is really really bad…given that it is such a hard work, you are amongst the bestin the cou try and the world and have dedicated to it your entire life….makes me always f furious when I see some wanker bankers who believe they deserve six figures for pressing buttons…..and yeah, this video earned a sub from me.
how can you increase your stroke speed in every shot and how can you increase your racket speed for Example how do i increase the speed of me bringing the racket from down in defensce to up quick for flat shot
Depends on your level .. Playing intermediate level .. I! ;p simply never lower my racket .. keep it up most of the time Learned to swing down the racket if need to be .. otherwise prefer to intercept and counter attack every attack from my opponents Than attacking .. I go in fast and hard :) and simply continue this movement until my racket is back up again (kinda 360° rotation) which I really do unaware moste of the time For pro level .. please consult your trainer .. Don't know if that would be a viable approach on pro level .. But watch the video to common mistakes by Greg and Jenny .. "normal" players usually having the raket to low .. costing them precious time to raise and adapt the racket every singe shot!
Viktor is with the World Tour Finals win, $400.000 plus. In a way I had hoped Ginting would get the money because I think he needs them the most! But apart from that, I wonder how Axelsen will do next year and who had the confidence to challenge him. Can he stand the pressure from Kodai, LKY, the Indian players etc! He showed he is not unbeatable, but maybe he can up his game again and hold the contenders of again! Going to be very interesting! Thanks for the video guys!
I think Axelsen is amazing! Because he has this pressure from ton of Asian players In Denmark 360.000 active badminton players are registered. That's just a percentage of Asian players in every single country ;) BUT mental training is imperative at this level and Axelsen makes the most of it Saying that .. I prefer watching / playing doubles / mixed .. but I think everyone who train fights wins but also loses deserves our respect! because it's often harder than anyone's day job.
If I were a multimillionaire, I would sponsor both of you, Greg & Jenny. There’s no reason why each of you should not receive $50,000 each, per year. Your ambassadorship towards badminton is unequaled by anyone.
51-100 could make decent money teaching old people classes in my experience. For those that charge low they can get class twice each day if they play in big public hall with tons of casual but dedicated players. Also I think the number is way too low if you move to rich but low ranked countries for example. My friend ranked 30 something and 50 something and they managed to buy a few homes (yes even the 50+ guys) in Indonesia by moving to a weaker country and becoming part of their national team. Unless you mean ranked 50-100 in the country and not international
Very informative. The income from playing badminton is worth a lot more to a player who lives in a country with a lower standard of living and vice versa.
Totally unrelated, but wondering, have you guys tried the Mizuno Tech Feather 03? I would like to think we as a human species can make a more sustainable shuttlecock.
Hi badminton insight, i have been sick so i could touch on badminton for atleast a week, i feel like i have became rusty, what can i do at home to stay in form
I think it’s not that badminton players are paid way less but rather the other sports are paid way too much crazy money. Having said that badminton players shud be paid more.
Hope you found this video interesting and informative! Was the money more or less than you expected? 👀
To be honest less
Yeah, alot less...
Time to pick up tennis. 🎾😅
And the giveaway?
That is sooooo much money 💰 !
This lookd far less than whait I would have expected, even if there’s still a massive (MASSIVE) gap with Tennis, which is hard to understand considering how Badminton is popular in Asia…
Lovely video. But this just shows that badminton is just a very underpaid, undervalued and underestimated sport. Such a shame considering it’s probably one of the most fascinating sport to watch.
We agree! 💯
I love badminton but even I get bored of watching it or other sports for that matter
I think it depends on which country you’re in and that’s super normal.
@@jennythegiant Then badminton isn't the problem here then.. It's you not liking watching sports, comment poster's point still stands.
I kind of want to make videos of badminton content, but dunno where to start. I just got back to it after many years. Im sad i did not get very into it early on in my life, such an interesting and fun sport. And also got back due to some reasons of me needing to keep away from Physical and Contact Sports
Loved this video, nice to see a thorough breakdown on how much badminton players earn. And as far as I've seen from the video, it's not that easy becoming a professional badminton player, keep it up, you guys are the best! Also, it's quite sad to see that other sports pay so much better salaries to low ranked players than higher ranked players in badminton. Hopefully one day badminton will get the same attention like the other sports in the future.
Thank you so much Justin! 😄
legendary commenter
Haha! I haven’t seen your comments in a while!
@@madameeggnot the real one
@@BadmintonInsight what do you think about injecting more ads and raising ticket prices?
I love this kind of transparency. Especially useful for up and coming players who need to convince themselves or their guardians to pursue this life.
Probably the most insightful badminton video for any young aspiring badminton player there is out there. As a coach i will definitely be passing this video on to my club junior players to hopefully enspire them further. You guys continue to impress me, will def join patreon. Great work guys and look forward to the next one.
Interesting take with your videos👍😊
Many cool and in depth details that you only might now if you are in the game. Thanks for the insights and honesty 🙏🙏
Thanks Mads! 😊
Ayeee
An amazing video! Your offcourt vids are equally entertaining, great job Greg and Jenny!💖
Thanks 😀 Glad you enjoyed it!
P V Sindhu was ranked 7 in Forbes list of top earning female atheletes in 2018 and 2020. She was the only badminton player in top 10 of Forbes list since then.
We'll look at her :) She is a role model - and model ;) for whole India and every India related playeress around the world - and then some.
How much of that earning was from tourney purse vs endorsements
I clicked cuz the guys face is very good
Look players in india earn a lot of money. Just look at neeraj chopra he won india 2nd individual olympic gold and first olympics atheletics medal . And his brand value increased by 20 times now .😂😂😂😂.
@@AmanSingh-lw1ne Plus we have sports Kota and government jobs so that helps.
hope you guys are making a lot of money through youtube! you guys are killing it and doing a lot for the badminton community
The most surprising part in my school life was that sindhu studied in the same school. She was 5 year’s junior and we realized that after she won Olympic silver.
Thanks for this honest video!
You’re very welcome! Thanks for the support - we really appreciate it 😀😀
I really like your videos and helped me to improve my game significantly at Amateur level. However, I like the part where you talk about your situation, and that is the most impressive part of the video for me. This is because, your channel belongs to one of the top 10 sites that provide a total efficient content for small badminton community. Thank you for your efforts and consistency in keeping up the content useful things and your precious time.
Wow thank you so much, that means a lot to us 😊
You are consistently the only channel I leave comments on. You guys are simply amazing. Factual, yet super accessible and friendly. Love your channel and have watched many of your videos.
If I could make a suggestion, if there’s players like me getting back into badminton after some years away from the sport, some basic breakdowns of even just the core shots would be great. I watched your forehand video and it’s great but wonder if you could find or use footage of people sending you clips if they are okay with you using them where you could analyze their swing. I know you offered that service on your website as a whole match analysis but I was more wondering about individual shots examples. For me, I’ve lost some of the techniques where I feel like I don’t generate enough power even on the clear nor smash and it would be great to see examples of players following you that you could us to illustrate how to hit proper shots. Sorry for the rambling post but keep up your amazing work. So happy you guys are creating all this content.
Thank you so much! 🤗 Your comment means a lot! And thanks for the suggestion, we've done 2 subscriber analysis videos in the past few months - have you seen those?
@@BadmintonInsight I have and those have been great. But from what I remember they focused more on general shot selection and placement. Not as much their technique. Anyway not a bit deal. Love all your content.
thanks for the great insight! personally, i feel that badminton players should be rewarded more due to the hard work they put in. badminton is definitely not an easy sport and players are definitely underpaid. but i hope that in the future, badminton could get more recognition around the world as a remarkable sport and hopefully lead to an increase in prize/sponsorship money. great video!
We hope so too 😆🏸
unfortunately players of any sport don't get paid for the hard work that they put in, they get paid for the viewers that they draw.
badminton is popular only in southeast asia (low income countries) so sponsorships and ads don't pay as well as tennis (popular in high income countries) even though badminton is played by more number of people.
We love ur videos 💙 every Sunday we will be waiting ❤
Super informative. I didn’t think the top earners would be so high, and then I hadn’t expected such a big drop off outside the top 10 in the world.
Thats bad i make more at a regular job
Wow.. this is really insightful.. Although the top players make really good money, the lower ranked players below rank 32 really play for the love of the game than earning a good living. With all the sacrifices of time and other career and finding a spouse, we really salute all you great badminton players performing throughout the year and giving us so much enjoyment. thanks all you great players and hope that you will be blessed with many good things in life.
Makes me feel a bit sad seeing how much less top players of badminton earn compare to other sports 😢 I feel like there is so much untapped potential when the players have to do part time jobs to fund their careers.
You guys are so good. Brilliant video.
Thank you so much guys! 🙏🏼😄
Very interesting, thanks for being so transparent. Hearing your estimation on Axelsen's income just makes me think whether LCW or Lin dan would've made more money in today's economy.
They would have done yes but we’re sure they also did pretty well financially!
Don't remember the numbers correctly but Lin Dan was 35 million income over time while LCW made about 70 million .. due to advertising of course :)
Awesome video Greg and Jenny! Very informative!
Your channel is so good. In every technical badminton video, there is so much to learn. My advice is to start analysing more games of players across the world. More indian players content please.
I really admire players like you too. As I knew most of the players from my contry don't need to care about the spendings. After retired they can find positions in government. For badminton players in England, it's hard to make money like footballers and tennis players. But there are still players like you two keep fighting and received such a good performance. Good luck in your badminton career!
Super interesting, unique and transparent video. Well done the two of you and I hope it inspires some UK talented people to double their efforts to break into the top 33. I also hope it powers you to a million subscribers and the returns you deserve. 😊
What an informative post!! You did great research as usual. Surprised and sad to know that elite badminton players are earning much less than Premier league footballers or tennis players. Expenses are too much for lower ranking players and cannot expect sponsorship money for their tournaments. How do you expect the earning of the badminton players in the near future? Thank you so much for sharing great video again!
Badminton is an underrated sport
Very sad that this is the reality of a professional badminton Player. Good to see you raising awareness, hopefully things will change with more transparency. Good video!
Very useful and informative video. Thank you very much!
Thanks Steve 😀
Thanks for the info 👍🏻👍🏻
You guy's provided really important information thankyou your video's are awesome
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it 😀🏸
Badminton players are in the sport for the love of it. It is never about getting big bucks. Of course big financial support is a plus.
Definitely!
Everyone loves their sports and everyone needs money. That is truth :)
4:05 Jenny: we brought our average down. Greg: wah wah wahhhhhhhhhh. Love that 🤣
Very nice video about the monetary side of a badminton player.
One interesting thing that I found from Japan’s national team and players is that they have company teams that sponsor them with the national team for international tournaments. And if they decide to retire or not haven’t a lot of participated tournaments in the season due to circumstances, they can work for their company at least to get make a living.
Yes very interesting! A few other countries do this too across different sports!
@@BadmintonInsight In India the government will provide govt jobs for athletes after their retirement.
Another differential with Tennis is that in badminton, singles, doubles and mixed get the same prize money, which is muvh more inclusive of different disciplines than tennis is where it’s all about singles. And that regardless of the fact that not that long ago prize money for women were far lower than for men…
Very Informative video 👍 I wish badminton players to earn more money especially European players
Thanks, and we hope so too! 😃
Cool video ! Thanks for sharing your experience!😊
This is my view, this depends on country to country. In India, most of the Badminton players within top 100 ranking are well to do and they have sponsors these days unlike 10 years ago. Time is changing and we will see changes in Badminton too. Huge fan of badminton, I wish this happen soon in future.
We hope so too!!
In China, national team players get paid from country so they are not worried about their living or training at all. Players retired from national team can easily find jobs in badminton academy or universities because badminton is very very popular in China.
Very insightful 👏👏
Thanks 😀😀
I can provide some examples from the players I know. In China, some provincial team players(ranked 200+) do part-time jobs as badminton coaches. Their individual courses usually take 300-400 RMB per hour(which equals 50-66 $). Every weekend they can earn 600-800$ with their part-time jobs.
Another super enlighting video. Is there a big differential between Europe and Asia players (Sindhu and TTY being stellar obviously)? I would expect there would be considering the popularity gap of the sport between the continents…
It was reported that the Indonesian WD Olympic champions got land, houses and even a business retail shop after their win (can't remember exactly if that's accurate though)
@@happywolfie1980 I think its more down to the fact that those countries are much cheaper to live in and a lower income in Europe would be considered a high income in Indonesia etc
Well of course the fame of winning in Badminton tournaments are way bigger in Asia than Europe
But Europe are often way more expensive than Asia - well not sure about Taiwan or Hongkong :)
@@laktho lakshya sen made fun of european hotel rooms in the antonsen interview. He said they are extremely small and expensive. In Malaysia you would get a luxury suite for a cheaper price than that lol
If you are from Malaysia and top badminton player, you can become very very rich. Lee Chong Wei is one example.
Very true!
Important video to start badminton as a career
We hope it can be 😃
Repping lboro! Congrats on making that top 33 range, keep it up!
A family friend of ours "worked" for the military, but all he did was play badminton at a high level. I dont think that structure exsists anymore, but it was apparantly how athletes of lesser-paying sports were supported in this country for decades. thanks for the video. Im just going to stick to my dayjob as a teacher and play badminton for fun :D
In Germany and Austria Sport-Solduers are still a thing
Lamsfuss and Isabell ??;) are sports soldiers afaik
Very interesting insights guys thanks
I saw somewhere Badminton has more "in play" time than a Men's tennis match. It's a sport that can be played (at recreation & club level) fairly inexpensively and something I look forward to enjoy till my limbs cannot move. However, it is a shame that there is not much money for a pro. It's hard to make it a career, esp. given that most of the revenue streams dry up by mid-30s.
What's the reason? It's such a beautiful, fast game. Has enough thrilling minutes per game. A few breaks to sneak in commercials. Asians love it (ergo: more people & hence commercially should be attractive). Why? Why Why?
It is not spectator friendly as tennis. In tennis, spectators are right next to the court but very strange that badminton courts are sort of isolated from crowd.
There is no variation in badminton, all indoors, same surface. Tennis has various surfaces, you need more skills to succeed on all surfaces. It is played both indoors and most importantly outdoors too.
Tennis is famous in richer countries.
Tennis has perhaps richer history then badminton, iconic players iconic matches.
Badminton is too short to earn TV money.
So put your kids into tennis 😉
You both are always my favourite ❤️
Keep growing ahead✌️
Thanks again, it also would be nice to see how you Greg and Jenny are now making considering the very well deserved success of your channel and how that impacts your sponsorship?
Very interesting! It feels like a cultural shift is needed for the sport to see any significant increase in money for players. If you live in a high income society, outside the top 32, there's really no financial incentive to pursue badminton.
Love your videos ❤
Thank you so much! 🤗
I really enjoy badminton i judt started on Friday but its the most fun ive had in a couple of years and i feel really motivated to practice everyday and try my hardest to become a professional, but the nesrest court is 1hour and 25 min away and ive judt been playing a little with my sibling but he doesn't really want to play badminton. Do im going to have to quit i really feels sad but there are no clubs no courts or players near me. So thabks for all of the tutorials ive watched these past few days from you guys and have a good one.
Very interesting and informative video……. Thanks 🙏
Glad you enjoyed it 😃
hope badminton grows more in the next years 😢😁
Us too!
One thing I learned... Badminton needs to get more popular ;/ . I love badminton and hope there's more attention to it in the future, thank you for trying to make it more widespread!
That's our hope too 🙏🏼
Amazing video, was surprising to be honest but keep it up 👍👍
Thanks Rahul ☺️
Cool video!!
Guys, thank you so much for this video - I always wondered what are the earning rates in badminton. Money is not everything as long as you do what you love! Personally I love many sports! I've loved playing football, baskeball and now badminton (all on recrational/amatour level) and can't imagine living without sport and I think that this is the most important... I love your channel - keep up the good work. I can't imagine one of you delivering pizza though :)
You’re welcome Jan! It certainly isn’t, enjoyment is the most important 😀
Thanks for the transparency and insights! Is there a difference in prize money for male and female players at the same tournaments?
You're welcome! No difference 😊
Informative video, thank you..
Also one more thing to note here is the value of the amount of money they make differs in different country (Purchasing Power Parity).
I don't usually comment on any video but
This is great.
A very informative video highlighting the greater rewards for those at the peak of the game. If English players are going to return to that platform BE will need a thorough overhaul. The engagement of Morten Frost is a good sign, but only if he has the authority and clearance for a root and branch restructuring of people and processes.
The Germans got another Dane trainer for doubles/mixed. Soon Danemarken will be sold out :) :) :)
The prize information, although public, are mostly scattered across the web. Thanks for gathering them and providing your own insight on top of the numbers.
Considering how popular badminton is, compared to tennis, it really doesn't do justice for the prize money.
Could it be related to badminton being more of a "National sport" than an individual sport, like tennis?
btw, "Tsang" has a tricky pronunciation, and its not the same as tang😉
Tennis is historically a rich man sports like golf which also attracts huge sponsors and media coverage. Badminton has become an asian sport, and is not all linked to the white rich people of Europe and the US. The same goes for table tennis
Yea, this is unfortunately true. Hopefully the success of Axelson/Marin can raise the status of the sport in europe. [U.S. has basically no hope...]
Was considering going all in in my training, thank you for opening my eyes :D I rather continue with my software engineering job. Better paid profession even in 3rd world countries.
Oh dear that’s not the reaction we were hoping for from this video 😬
Hey Jenny, Greg,
Great content as always and Merry Christmas!
Question - if you had known the earnings potential back then would you both have gone down this road? Its personal so won't blame you if there is no answer!
Good luck from Paris (said hi on Reddit! :)
Thanks Fabian, and Merry Christmas to you too! To be honest, yes - we both love the sport 🏸
@@BadmintonInsight I can see that you love the sport, apart from being pro and creating insight videos, the way you both conduct yourselves shows it in truckloads! I hope you guys will come to France for 2024.🍀
Idea - I would love to see guest interviews from the ENG team and/or other high level players! I think your dialogue makes it work.
This is very insightful, thanks. The numbers read terrible and it's a courageous career pursuit. The coaching and logistics cost more to get to top 50 than the revenue.
Glad it was interesting!!
And viktor just added the price money of the world tour finals
Crazy 🤯 What a year he's had! 👏
It is very proud to see the Indian player Sindhu to be on thumbnail ❤️🔥🔥🇮🇳
She's an incredible player!
@2:49 You two are now very marketable
Iam a professional badminton player .. it is very useful for me to know about the earning to budget my career...
interesting topic. Always wondered about this.
Awesome research
Thank you! 🤗
I've also heard that for some countries in the past, they may pay a pension or reward for players that bring home podium finishes at major tournaments/events like Olympics.
Yes, you’re correct. It’s in Malaysia. You get a pension when you win any Olympic medal. Of course the better the medal, the higher the pension.
Hi Greg 👋 Hi Jenny 👋
Thank you for such an inspiring video 😊😊
If you don’t mind me asking… “Do you actually earn money from playing in the University league or wining the BUCS competitions?”
Congrats to this video, I hope this will get a movement started! Unfortunately it is the image of Badminton that needs to be fixed as the percetion is very often "casual, recreational activity with friends in the garden". Being the second-most popular sport in the world, only after Soccer, it is selling way behind it's full potential. Thanks to you guys we now have excellent material to start infiltrating the masses :-)
Don't certain countries offer big extra bonus for winning big tournaments like world champ and Olympics? I'm sure I've seen Indonesia do it, and some others like Singapore for Loh (publicly funded though).
Wow - mid tier badminton players must have a passion for their sport. It is hardly lucrative... But cheers to all you're doing with the channel! Best of luck moving forward.
Amazing video. Really helped me. But what about coaching?
For winning the Yonex all England the male singles player gained 70000 pounds/ dollars.The winner of Wimbledon earns 2000,000 pounds.Badminton players are paid a derisory amount of money for the hard work that goes into it.The Yonex all England is the in the highest tier of competition with the exception of the World tour finals.That is a disgrace.You all seriously deserve better.
absolutely shocked , I really thought it was much much higher than this 🤔. wish i chose Tennis instead
great video as always guys 👏👏👏
Nice walk through. I'm curious about how much would 35+ age category international players earn?
Regarding national leagues, obviously a lot of this is going to be hearsay, but for many asian countries, the domestic amateur league can get pretty brutal. I once heard a friend tell me when he went back to china to play in one of these leagues, he saw Bao Yi Xin playing. This was after she already retired from international badminton. The word on the grapevine was that the charge out rate was something like 100k RMB, though I wasn't sure if that was a daily or rate for the entire league. Obligatory take with a huge grain of salt, but I don't think this is entirely unbelievable.
In terms of coats, what about training costs? Gym usage, players, coaching, supplies?
definitely interesting, thank you for sharing!
and curse you, tennis!!
Haha absolutely 😂
Very poor players. See the income of top 100 football players, tennis players or even in cricketers. But salute to badminton players for their passion, dedication and love for the game.
Is badminton shoes very important or running shoes will cut it for beginners? Thank you
Thanks for the information. Tennis prize money are mind blown
The video I did not now I needed, but glad I saw it !🙏❤
lucky for you that both of you are intelligent and likeable…and most likely figured out that this channel will help you financially more than anything. but yeah, the money below 32 is really really bad…given that it is such a hard work, you are amongst the bestin the cou try and the world and have dedicated to it your entire life….makes me always f furious when I see some wanker bankers who believe they deserve six figures for pressing buttons…..and yeah, this video earned a sub from me.
how can you increase your stroke speed in every shot and how can you increase your racket speed for Example how do i increase the speed of me bringing the racket from down in defensce to up quick for flat shot
Depends on your level ..
Playing intermediate level .. I! ;p simply never lower my racket .. keep it up most of the time
Learned to swing down the racket if need to be .. otherwise prefer to intercept and counter attack every attack from my opponents
Than attacking .. I go in fast and hard :) and simply continue this movement until my racket is back up again (kinda 360° rotation) which I really do unaware moste of the time
For pro level .. please consult your trainer ..
Don't know if that would be a viable approach on pro level ..
But watch the video to common mistakes by Greg and Jenny .. "normal" players usually having the raket to low .. costing them precious time to raise and adapt the racket every singe shot!
Viktor is with the World Tour Finals win, $400.000 plus. In a way I had hoped Ginting would get the money because I think he needs them the most!
But apart from that, I wonder how Axelsen will do next year and who had the confidence to challenge him. Can he stand the pressure from Kodai, LKY, the Indian players etc! He showed he is not unbeatable, but maybe he can up his game again and hold the contenders of again! Going to be very interesting! Thanks for the video guys!
I think Axelsen is amazing!
Because he has this pressure from ton of Asian players
In Denmark 360.000 active badminton players are registered. That's just a percentage of Asian players in every single country ;)
BUT mental training is imperative at this level and Axelsen makes the most of it
Saying that .. I prefer watching / playing doubles / mixed .. but I think everyone who train fights wins but also loses deserves our respect! because it's often harder than anyone's day job.
PV sindhu highest paid badminton player in the world
How much she earns?
If I were a multimillionaire, I would sponsor both of you, Greg & Jenny. There’s no reason why each of you should not receive $50,000 each, per year. Your ambassadorship towards badminton is unequaled by anyone.
Really interesting.
51-100 could make decent money teaching old people classes in my experience. For those that charge low they can get class twice each day if they play in big public hall with tons of casual but dedicated players.
Also I think the number is way too low if you move to rich but low ranked countries for example. My friend ranked 30 something and 50 something and they managed to buy a few homes (yes even the 50+ guys) in Indonesia by moving to a weaker country and becoming part of their national team. Unless you mean ranked 50-100 in the country and not international
Very informative. The income from playing badminton is worth a lot more to a player who lives in a country with a lower standard of living and vice versa.
Totally unrelated, but wondering, have you guys tried the Mizuno Tech Feather 03? I would like to think we as a human species can make a more sustainable shuttlecock.
Let’s be honest badminton players do not earn enough for all the hard work they put in and that is why yt is good to boost money
Hi badminton insight, i have been sick so i could touch on badminton for atleast a week, i feel like i have became rusty, what can i do at home to stay in form
In france they make like 2000 euro for a top one . It's basically less than a manager .
I think it’s not that badminton players are paid way less but rather the other sports are paid way too much crazy money. Having said that badminton players shud be paid more.