Exactly. However my snap on ones have still outlasted harbor freight. Great for DIYers, but in the last year I've broken 7 snap on swivels. I now own two of each so if one breaks I have a second. When they break it can be scary too.
@@SteampunkDreamthey’re useless for anyone working on cares doesn’t matter what brand you get if that bolts got even a little torque on it it’s breaking
I have an old matco impact rated swivel. it's lasted almost 15 years of decent use and abuse, now my father whos a mechanic has a snapon one that gets used all the time but it's only 10 years old with no issues. it's all in how you use the stuff
He said someone replaced it. He probably had other brand in it’s place and another tech lost it and replaced it with a cheapo. Happens to me every other time I leave my box unlocked
I had 2 kobalt ones snap on me but i was taking off bolts that were 30mm heads that take an excess of 250 ft/lbs to break loose. Full beans on the impact.
@@HuntsWorkshop for 95% of mechanic workers, that Pittsburgh will be more than enough. Ima DIY mechanic so its ok for me but I have a cousin who is a mechanic for GM. He said the Snap On truck don't even bother coming by their job anymore because literally everyone has HF/Milwaukee tools. Especially the Milwaukee power tools like the 12v rachet, impact gun..ect. but the hand tools. All of them literally get it from HF and never have any problems. Although he said he did buy a Snapon Tool chest for 8k when he was entry level mechanic
@@HuntsWorkshop i get ya, but most people don’t need more than that for most typical vehicles things. The highest torque i’ve had to break was like 175. (not a mechanic but work on my own car) . Now at the power plant that i work at i’ve definitely blown through my fare share of swivels from all different kinds of makers. Oddly enough my Pittsburg ones last the longest. They all break though.
It's a skill issue. My harbor freight sockets(wobbles, swivels, deep, short etc.) have withstanded use(not abuse) from my 1/2 in. Matco pneumatic impact on shop air and my 1/2 milwaukee high torque impact. Maybe rethink your approach if you're exploding sockets and afraid to be "unalived" by them 🤡
@@SteampunkDream Simple. U joint sockets are not meant to break free fasteners. They are not for high torque applications in other words. I've broken every brand of these. They all suck and I do not use them any longer. Use a wobble extension and a hand ratchet to break it free then go for the gun.
It appears to me the socket had been well used and abused. These tool truck brain washed mechanics always put down cheaper tools. Wouldn’t say you were abusing while you were using it were you?
"I just reached into my toolbox and accidentally grabbed a socket that I definitely didn't put in it and is obviously not a standard, non-swiveling, impact-rated socket. Then I didn't ask any questions as to why it was a swivel socket. Then I made it explode by likely putting way too much torque through it and damaged a car and had to make this video and blame it on the boogey man who put the socket in my toolbox."
Standard torque range for torque wrenches is 20-250 ft.lbs on 1/2”. 10-100ft.lbs on 3/8” I say that’s a fair measure of how much you should send through a drive of an impact gun through a socket. Going on this logic, never broke a socket or any other drive tool (extension swivel etc) Now I have broke a 3/8 extension by going over 200 lbs and I expected it to break even sooner than it did.
I've beaten my pittsburg 1/2 swivel for a while. Somehow it hasn't broken yet, but I also recently got the tekton pinless swivel. Sunex, I believe, has a steel collar around the pin instead of a spring and holds up very well.
This is why no matter the brand I typically only use swivel sockets with compact impacts. However I have used my tekton pinless with my high torque impacts and its been fine. Part SIA22102
Hey man I have had my Pittsburgh pro barrel swivel for 11 years now in the industrial machinery maintenance world used on my m12 impact every day never broke it
I used one of those with an air impact for several minutes with the air pressure cranked up well above the recommended maximum to get an extremely stubborn fitting loose. The swivel ended up so hot that I couldn't hold it in my bare hands, but it held up to the abuse, and I still use it.
Dude I bought a brand new snap on, impact, 1/2in drive metric shallow socket set, the 13 15 and 17 split in half while using them, the 13 cut my face, the best tools fail, seen cars fall off brand new lifts, seen brand new Toyotas catch fire while working at the dealership, the cheapest tools fail! Always pay attention to what your doing,
😂 all tools can do this man, its not just harbor freight. Ive had snap-on sockets crack with a hand wrench. Ive also had their impact sockets grenade too. Sometimes tools have defects. Ive broken harbor freight sockets too. In my experience nothing is unbreakable. In my opinion the Pittsburgh stuff does just fine, not as pretty as snap-on, blue point, matco, Milwaukee, or DeWalt, but theyll get the job done. Especially the newer stuff they sell. Quality over the last couple years has gone up dramatically. Compare the Hercules tools to the red brand they sell, its crazy. If i didnt already have a lot of Milwaukee tools and batterys, when the hercules stuff came out id have went with the Hercules, just to save money. The Hercules stuff isnt quite a Milwaukee or snap-on, but for the price they are a hell of a good tool.
My dad just got me a full toolbag of tools from harbor freight and I couldn't be happier, well he is, he's happier that he was able to buy it all for me at once and give it to me for my birthday 🥳 The same day he got me those tools I was able to replace my intake manifold and tune up my car. Really great birthday present. I recommend Pittsburgh tools to anyone on a budget who *needs* a job done. If you have time to order your tools online and have them one at a time, you don't need them as bad as someone who's gonna buy Pittsburgh.
I remember getting a set of non brand impact sockets. First rattle was on flywheel bolts. The socket blew up. The gun rolled across the surface and scraped my hand on the ring gear. I was heated and turned in the whole set for my money back. That was 46 years ago. Haven't forgotten.
As a heavy duty mechanic I learnt and started following the doctrine of If it’s something that if it fails will hurt me, I don’t buy it from canadian tire or princess auto. They’re basically our harbour freights.
This is also why you have multiple sets of certain tools. Just in case one breaks, you need to have a tool to get fixed while you need a spare to keep going. And I'm not saying you have multiple sets of tools. There are certain tools that you want to have. Multiple replacements impact. Wobblies are definitely one of those very common sockets that seem to break or go missing a lot you want to have multiples
Best impact U joints are pinless, astro has a really good hex socket design, gearwrench makes a 4 spline pinless design but the splines tend to fold over fairly often.
How did you get it to spin so violently that it snapped on you???? Can you recreate the scene ??? I’m having a lot of trouble following your story pal?
I hooked two airlines together with two male couplers threaded together and the ASE tech couldn't figure it out and a windshield got cracked when he tried to disconnect them. I told the boss I wasn't paying for that. If you can't figure that out you don't need to be in a shop.
I bought a harbor freight air conditioning manifold set, the high side coupler blew apart in my hand while i was trying to disconnect it. I threw both couplers out and bought yellow jacket couplers
I've used just about every tool under the sun. They all do this if you get after them enough. I bet you had a 3/8 to 1/2 inch adapter and the 1400 ft lbs torque wrench just a slamming that thing until it broke.
What bolt or nut were you trying to loosen when part of the socket hit the paint? Unless the part flew out and did a 180 to come back to hit the car, i know of no nut that would require a swivel and be in line with the cars finish...
I have been beating on my old chrome sidchrome ball swivel for a couple years the pin come loose at one point so i welded it on each end and its been beaten to hell and back. One thing i cant recommend enough is tack weld the ends of the pin so it cant work its way out.
But Snap-on and Maco brake’s also, then you got to wait until they show up. Or ship it to them and the customer is waiting longer at that point. Just buy 2 from harbor freight and return the broken one later.
If I remember high school automotive class correctly you never use a swivel socket on an impact. And I’ve broken swivel socket with a regular ratchet, it’s no were as chaotic or devastating as breaking one with an impact.
Yhea that might be a good example on one item. However, some of their tool is exactly the same such as the snap on jack that is 10 x the price as the harobor freight upper end daytona jack and some icon sockets are made in the same factroy as Cornwell sockets. The moral of my and your example is to know what you are buying.
@Hunt's Workshop I knew about them, and most ppl I know knew about them. I doubt those were made in the same factory as the upper end snap on jacks. However, it's like the point I said earlier you have to know what you are buying. If you buy without research, it's like shooting from hip. You may hot your target you may not.
@@HuntsWorkshop There probably isn’t a person alive who knows about Harbor Freight having jack stands and DOESN’T know about the recall. “Silent?” What planet are you on?!
@@HuntsWorkshop thier jackstands didnt kill people. thier 3 ton jackstand failed in testing below 2x the rated weight so they recalled them. the avetage was about 10,500, i forget the exact weight. that didnt meet thier safety margin so they recalled them amd added the new lock pin, and now the average fail is closer to 3x the rated weight people heard they were being recalled and made up stories online about it to get views
My harbor freight is used every day since I bought it in a pinch 2 years ago. 3/8 and 1/2. Dude must be putting it in a big bind with the big impact on full speed.
Pittsburgh tools have held up just fine for me and I have built several cars from the ground up with them without any issues also even the high end tools Break if you use them enough. My theory is buy the cheap tool and when it breaks or wears out after a few years of use then you have proven that you use it enough to make the expensive tool worth it so you can consider replacing it with the high end tool. Too many guys take out a second mortgage to buy snap-on or other high end everything and use a lot of those tools one or two times and then they sit in the drawer never to be used again.
It’s a good theory if you’re not using them everyday. A cheap ratchet breaks and your hand punches into something one time you’re all done with that garbage though.
@@HuntsWorkshop I mean that can happen on the expensive tools too I have had high price tools Break as well. Also it's always good to have a set of cheap tools around as occasionally when you are working on stuff you need to modify or make a tool and I'd rather hack up a cheap harbor freight tool than an expensive snap-on or other higher end tool.
well the main reason snap on and Mac are so expensive is because they know the tool is going to fail eventually in a shop with alot of use. so they gladly replace with no questions asked on warranty stuff like that.
I like the Pittsburgh impact swivel because you take that spring around it off and weld the pin in place and its not as bulky as my mac or sunnex its been 4 years and its still holding strong... but yes that pin will fly out of that sping
How strong was that impact!? I use a 1/2" 500ft-lbs blue point and have had those Pittsburg swivels for YEARS. But i also have a 1/2" 1,200ft-lbs impact that i wouldn't use on any impact swivel. A hammer is a hammer until it's clearly too big, you won't see that on any "hammer instructions"
Snap on swivels and universal ball swivels will bind and get tight before they explode. When they get tight warranty it out. Not one time in over 20 years of daily use have I ever had a snap on one explode on me.
Snap-on truck is usually sitting outside bc the franchisee is inside having to beg everyone to pay the bill they agreed to but now try to hide from haha
I bought snap-on wrenches from Facebook long story short snap-on would not replace broken ratchet if your not the original owner. And the gear cost was more than a complete set of 1/2 harbor freight set
I've used that exact swivel on a high output impact tons of times with no failures. This design isn't unique to Harbor Freight. If the story is true, I'm wondering if someone set you up. That impact swivel def isn't gonna kill you.
That would never happen to a Koken impact swivel.. you're right you can't get away with spending $4 at harbor freight on everything that's so dangerous. I'm glad you weren't hurt.
That’s what most don’t understand, they say “oh you can get a replacement it’s eazy and free” but when you have a customer waiting and a deadline to meet you don’t have time to go back and make that warranty. For me I do have a harbor freight impact set with a swivel but it’s the Quinn set and it works great for Heavy diesel repair. I don’t trust those Pittsburg swivels, maybe there sockets but I’ve seen multiple broken swivels from Pittsburg. (I know Quinn and Pittsburg are basically the same but the swivels are different on both sets Quinn is built better)
The only brand swivel I haven't had break are very old MAC tools swivels 3/8 and 1/2 inch, but I do have a 1/4 snap-on but it doesn't see impact or high torque
I have the same problem.. When a tool I'm using breaks and causes a problem, it's always a tool that, 'somebody slipped into my toolbox'.. I just happened to grab and use it without noticing that I didn't put it there. If I even catch that SOB, we're going to have some words.
I'm a home mechanic and I would say a pretty good one. I've hand no problem with Harbor Freight sockets and hand wrenches. My double swivel ratchet I would rate only as fair but it does work. The torque wrenches are better than people think but I use them for wheel nuts and such. I would rather have something else for moire exact work though. In general, the more moving parts it has, the more moving parts it has, the less you can trust it. Harbor Freight does honor its lifetime warrantees, and I have collected on them. I cannot speak to Harbor Freight's high end tool line, but I would shop around before I bought them. Harbor Freight gets hacked but it's not always deserved. The cheap power tools are for one time or occasional use. Harbor Freight sells three grades of many items. The top grade is comparable in price to the name brands. It has to be.
I am a retired mechanic and I Do by what works for me and I don't have any problems at all with Harbor Freight Tools none they are affordable and they work great
I have all pin universals from matco and some Mac. Deep, short, 6 point, etc and they all do this. My gear wrench xcore have taking a decent beating and havnt broke on me yet.
Snap-on tools literally do this exact same thing, ask me how I know...
How do you know?
Exactly. However my snap on ones have still outlasted harbor freight. Great for DIYers, but in the last year I've broken 7 snap on swivels. I now own two of each so if one breaks I have a second. When they break it can be scary too.
@@SteampunkDreamthey’re useless for anyone working on cares doesn’t matter what brand you get if that bolts got even a little torque on it it’s breaking
Sike ive been beating my snap on for over a 1 year and nothing hasnt gave out
I have an old matco impact rated swivel. it's lasted almost 15 years of decent use and abuse, now my father whos a mechanic has a snapon one that gets used all the time but it's only 10 years old with no issues. it's all in how you use the stuff
So wait a minute you just reached into a well organized toolbox and grabbed a Pittsburg universal joint? The lie’s people tell.
i've got a pittsburg and a snap on swivel in my box. they dont have the same dimensions and they're hard to confuse.
Not to mention, where was the nut or bolt located that the swivel would be in line to hit the paint
He said someone replaced it. He probably had other brand in it’s place and another tech lost it and replaced it with a cheapo. Happens to me every other time I leave my box unlocked
The other times they don’t bother replacing whatever they lost or left on a truck.
20k on the box and 1k on tools
Your sample size of one is really valuable, thanks for that
He took it out he looks like the type of guy to charge u 1500 for a pad change 😂
That’s a deal I’d charge 2k per side. And reuse the pads.
Make sure you use impact tools on impact guns. The more you know.
That is a impact swivel.
My Craftsman swivel socket exploded on me last week with a hand powered ratchet. Its not always the Harbor Freight tools.
When was that socket made because it matters in terms of quality. In this day and age craftsman is junk
@@NuKe0clan0cod0videosRip old Craftsman 😔 Still have USA stuff, 30 years later
Craftsman is made in china if it doesn't say made in USA
I had 2 kobalt ones snap on me but i was taking off bolts that were 30mm heads that take an excess of 250 ft/lbs to break loose. Full beans on the impact.
Craftsman is even worse than harbor freight. If Craftsman was the only thing on the shelf I wouldn't fix my car.
I had a harbor freight swivel like that and use it everyday for 5 years and had no problem.
If 282 ft lbs is all you ever need, I ain’t mad at ya.
@@HuntsWorkshop for 95% of mechanic workers, that Pittsburgh will be more than enough. Ima DIY mechanic so its ok for me but I have a cousin who is a mechanic for GM. He said the Snap On truck don't even bother coming by their job anymore because literally everyone has HF/Milwaukee tools. Especially the Milwaukee power tools like the 12v rachet, impact gun..ect. but the hand tools. All of them literally get it from HF and never have any problems. Although he said he did buy a Snapon Tool chest for 8k when he was entry level mechanic
@@HuntsWorkshop i get ya, but most people don’t need more than that for most typical vehicles things. The highest torque i’ve had to break was like 175. (not a mechanic but work on my own car) . Now at the power plant that i work at i’ve definitely blown through my fare share of swivels from all different kinds of makers. Oddly enough my Pittsburg ones last the longest. They all break though.
100%
I’ve had my set for ever and have been pounding them
No problems yet
But you know what they say 99% of the time it’s operator error
it's the bad way they held the pin in. I tack welded both sides and it's been solid for years
It's a skill issue. My harbor freight sockets(wobbles, swivels, deep, short etc.) have withstanded use(not abuse) from my 1/2 in. Matco pneumatic impact on shop air and my 1/2 milwaukee high torque impact.
Maybe rethink your approach if you're exploding sockets and afraid to be "unalived" by them 🤡
I can vouch for that. We probably have the same swivels and the same impact lol.
Morale of the story is mechanic blames tool for his own stupidity.
How is it his own fault? Other than he didn't pay attention to the universal he grabbed. They are impact rated.
@@SteampunkDream Simple. U joint sockets are not meant to break free fasteners. They are not for high torque applications in other words. I've broken every brand of these. They all suck and I do not use them any longer. Use a wobble extension and a hand ratchet to break it free then go for the gun.
@@nhbountyhunterYou're right, but he ain't exactly wrong either.... "They are impact rated".
It’s an “impact swivel “ just never use it on an impact 😂
Who puts a pinned universal on an impact... All pinned swivels are easily identified as such and just as easily thrown in the garbage.
Harbor freight be hittin when you broke asf, your ride breaks down, and your only option is to become your own mechanic.
fk yeah
this guy prolly charges 200 an oil change
I’ve had that exact same socket on an impact when I was taking a transmission out. It didn’t break.
moral of the story, look at your tools before you use them.
It appears to me the socket had been well used and abused. These tool truck brain washed mechanics always put down cheaper tools. Wouldn’t say you were abusing while you were using it were you?
"I just reached into my toolbox and accidentally grabbed a socket that I definitely didn't put in it and is obviously not a standard, non-swiveling, impact-rated socket. Then I didn't ask any questions as to why it was a swivel socket. Then I made it explode by likely putting way too much torque through it and damaged a car and had to make this video and blame it on the boogey man who put the socket in my toolbox."
No Snap On guy would grab a Pittsburg and mistake it for their Snap On. Blindfolded and drunk, I could still pick out my Snap On
Fax
Facts *
Haha yep
Yep, them bastards got me as a kid. Those tools haunt me like a nightmare lmao.
You mean a fap off guy?
Standard torque range for torque wrenches is 20-250 ft.lbs on 1/2”.
10-100ft.lbs on 3/8”
I say that’s a fair measure of how much you should send through a drive of an impact gun through a socket. Going on this logic, never broke a socket or any other drive tool (extension swivel etc)
Now I have broke a 3/8 extension by going over 200 lbs and I expected it to break even sooner than it did.
See the CR-V on there? Chrome vanadium. That's a hand tool, not an impact tool. This one's on you for using the wrong tool, my guy.
I don’t argue, I just state facts. This is sold as impact grade. Also cr-v and cr-mo are the most common for impact use.
@@HuntsWorkshopplease show the paint damage
You never mentioned if it was over torqued past its rating.
You never mentioned it’s torque limit was only 282 ft.lbs. whereas a $5 one on Amazon is 500 🤷♂️
@@HuntsWorkshopim sure that Amazon rating is accurate 😂 you're more of a tool than anything you buy thats for sure
@@HuntsWorkshopreally?? Did you really just say that?
Lol, just pull the video down man… swing and a miss
Also, Pittsburgh is the low end side of tools at harbor freight, and if you compare an icon swivel, I bet it will match snap on longevity at 1/4 cost.
I've beaten my pittsburg 1/2 swivel for a while. Somehow it hasn't broken yet, but I also recently got the tekton pinless swivel. Sunex, I believe, has a steel collar around the pin instead of a spring and holds up very well.
Tekton painless is garbage
I couldn't imagine picking up a frequent used socket and not realizing it was swapped with a Harbor Freight socket
Dudes acting like it wasn't his swivel 😂
This is why no matter the brand I typically only use swivel sockets with compact impacts. However I have used my tekton pinless with my high torque impacts and its been fine.
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Sounds like you bought that Pittsburgh bud
Hey man I have had my Pittsburgh pro barrel swivel for 11 years now in the industrial machinery maintenance world used on my m12 impact every day never broke it
There is a use case there. 282 ft lbs goes a long way without WI road salt.
Fair to point out however, that this is not a pro version. He's holding the standard Pittsburgh version which aren't traditionally excellent.
I used one of those with an air impact for several minutes with the air pressure cranked up well above the recommended maximum to get an extremely stubborn fitting loose. The swivel ended up so hot that I couldn't hold it in my bare hands, but it held up to the abuse, and I still use it.
if the customer is paying me under $20 an hour, the customer can wait. I love my disposable tools.
Dude I bought a brand new snap on, impact, 1/2in drive metric shallow socket set, the 13 15 and 17 split in half while using them, the 13 cut my face, the best tools fail, seen cars fall off brand new lifts, seen brand new Toyotas catch fire while working at the dealership, the cheapest tools fail! Always pay attention to what your doing,
Avoid swivels and univerals at all costs
But was this a u joint that is rated/intended for use on an impact wrench (like the black, impact rated sockets) ?
😂 all tools can do this man, its not just harbor freight. Ive had snap-on sockets crack with a hand wrench. Ive also had their impact sockets grenade too. Sometimes tools have defects. Ive broken harbor freight sockets too. In my experience nothing is unbreakable. In my opinion the Pittsburgh stuff does just fine, not as pretty as snap-on, blue point, matco, Milwaukee, or DeWalt, but theyll get the job done. Especially the newer stuff they sell. Quality over the last couple years has gone up dramatically. Compare the Hercules tools to the red brand they sell, its crazy. If i didnt already have a lot of Milwaukee tools and batterys, when the hercules stuff came out id have went with the Hercules, just to save money. The Hercules stuff isnt quite a Milwaukee or snap-on, but for the price they are a hell of a good tool.
Been using Harbor Freight tools for years and had minimal failures, I've had more failures from SK then I have Harbor Freight.
My dad just got me a full toolbag of tools from harbor freight and I couldn't be happier, well he is, he's happier that he was able to buy it all for me at once and give it to me for my birthday 🥳
The same day he got me those tools I was able to replace my intake manifold and tune up my car. Really great birthday present. I recommend Pittsburgh tools to anyone on a budget who *needs* a job done.
If you have time to order your tools online and have them one at a time, you don't need them as bad as someone who's gonna buy Pittsburgh.
I remember getting a set of non brand impact sockets. First rattle was on flywheel bolts. The socket blew up. The gun rolled across the surface and scraped my hand on the ring gear. I was heated and turned in the whole set for my money back. That was 46 years ago. Haven't forgotten.
As a heavy duty mechanic I learnt and started following the doctrine of If it’s something that if it fails will hurt me, I don’t buy it from canadian tire or princess auto. They’re basically our harbour freights.
They are just useful for hood shocks and walking around on sundays in
How Canadian of you to put a u in harbor freight. Lol that’s awesome
@@knewt0 Looool my bad. I never would have noticed.
@@knewt0it’s Horrible Fright
Please show the paint damage
This is also why you have multiple sets of certain tools. Just in case one breaks, you need to have a tool to get fixed while you need a spare to keep going. And I'm not saying you have multiple sets of tools. There are certain tools that you want to have. Multiple replacements impact. Wobblies are definitely one of those very common sockets that seem to break or go missing a lot you want to have multiples
Best impact U joints are pinless, astro has a really good hex socket design, gearwrench makes a 4 spline pinless design but the splines tend to fold over fairly often.
How did you get it to spin so violently that it snapped on you???? Can you recreate the scene ??? I’m having a lot of trouble following your story pal?
I hooked two airlines together with two male couplers threaded together and the ASE tech couldn't figure it out and a windshield got cracked when he tried to disconnect them. I told the boss I wasn't paying for that. If you can't figure that out you don't need to be in a shop.
I bought a harbor freight air conditioning manifold set, the high side coupler blew apart in my hand while i was trying to disconnect it. I threw both couplers out and bought yellow jacket couplers
Never use a universal joint without a collar to hold the pin inside.
That old style is legitimately deadly no matter the brand
I've used just about every tool under the sun. They all do this if you get after them enough. I bet you had a 3/8 to 1/2 inch adapter and the 1400 ft lbs torque wrench just a slamming that thing until it broke.
What bolt or nut were you trying to loosen when part of the socket hit the paint? Unless the part flew out and did a 180 to come back to hit the car, i know of no nut that would require a swivel and be in line with the cars finish...
I have been beating on my old chrome sidchrome ball swivel for a couple years the pin come loose at one point so i welded it on each end and its been beaten to hell and back. One thing i cant recommend enough is tack weld the ends of the pin so it cant work its way out.
But Snap-on and Maco brake’s also, then you got to wait until they show up. Or ship it to them and the customer is waiting longer at that point. Just buy 2 from harbor freight and return the broken one later.
When mechanics try justifying the mortgage payments in their tool box. The money you saved with Pittsburg can pay for paint if it ever happens
As soon as I open my toolbox I can spot an imposter
Every swivel socket has the same possibility of doing exactly what that one did.
If you’ve never seen a snap on tool fail, you’re probably not using your tools enough.
That is very likely to happen with almost every tool brand especially an item that has moving parts. Buy what you can afford to get the job done.
If I remember high school automotive class correctly you never use a swivel socket on an impact. And I’ve broken swivel socket with a regular ratchet, it’s no were as chaotic or devastating as breaking one with an impact.
I’ve snapped 3-4 over the years never had anything fly at me or the car usually gets tossed a few inches and falls to the ground
Ive been using the 1/2 powertool one from oreillys almost everyday and its still intact plus life time warranty
Yhea that might be a good example on one item. However, some of their tool is exactly the same such as the snap on jack that is 10 x the price as the harobor freight upper end daytona jack and some icon sockets are made in the same factroy as Cornwell sockets. The moral of my and your example is to know what you are buying.
What about their jack stands that killed people until they did a quiet recall most people don’t know about?
@Hunt's Workshop I knew about them, and most ppl I know knew about them. I doubt those were made in the same factory as the upper end snap on jacks. However, it's like the point I said earlier you have to know what you are buying. If you buy without research, it's like shooting from hip. You may hot your target you may not.
@@HuntsWorkshop if you want to compare recent apples to apples google snap-on ratcheting tie downs.
@@HuntsWorkshop There probably isn’t a person alive who knows about Harbor Freight having jack stands and DOESN’T know about the recall. “Silent?” What planet are you on?!
@@HuntsWorkshop thier jackstands didnt kill people. thier 3 ton jackstand failed in testing below 2x the rated weight so they recalled them. the avetage was about 10,500, i forget the exact weight. that didnt meet thier safety margin so they recalled them amd added the new lock pin, and now the average fail is closer to 3x the rated weight
people heard they were being recalled and made up stories online about it to get views
Anecdotally, I'm halfway through a frame off restoration of my truck with Harbor Freight tools and I haven't had a single issue?
I have the ICON swivel socket sets in both 3/8 & 1/2 and work amazing!!
icon is some good stuff, quinn is also suprisingly nice
Oh! Bro, I get what you're saying but you use harbor freight sparingly, like a universal joint.
Snap on swivels to this as well
My pitsburg half swivel has been in my box for 5 years now and hasn't broken, and I use a milwake half inch gun
I've never had luck with Universal joints... Tight space means one of many different style of Box Wrench.
Where are you using a swivel impact to hit the cars paint with shrapnel
Is the tool rated for an impact gun?
Not all tools are.
don’t let harbor freight unlife you.
My harbor freight is used every day since I bought it in a pinch 2 years ago. 3/8 and 1/2. Dude must be putting it in a big bind with the big impact on full speed.
Pittsburgh tools have held up just fine for me and I have built several cars from the ground up with them without any issues also even the high end tools Break if you use them enough. My theory is buy the cheap tool and when it breaks or wears out after a few years of use then you have proven that you use it enough to make the expensive tool worth it so you can consider replacing it with the high end tool. Too many guys take out a second mortgage to buy snap-on or other high end everything and use a lot of those tools one or two times and then they sit in the drawer never to be used again.
It’s a good theory if you’re not using them everyday. A cheap ratchet breaks and your hand punches into something one time you’re all done with that garbage though.
@@HuntsWorkshop I mean that can happen on the expensive tools too I have had high price tools Break as well. Also it's always good to have a set of cheap tools around as occasionally when you are working on stuff you need to modify or make a tool and I'd rather hack up a cheap harbor freight tool than an expensive snap-on or other higher end tool.
Those Swivels are also known to be slippery on cement.
Idk what’s worse, replacing an expensive tool with a cheap duplicate or adding random hardware to a coworkers active job’s hardware pile 😂
I have HF swivel socket and never had a problem. I used it with impact many times 🤷♂️
well the main reason snap on and Mac are so expensive is because they know the tool is going to fail eventually in a shop with alot of use. so they gladly replace with no questions asked on warranty stuff like that.
I like the Pittsburgh impact swivel because you take that spring around it off and weld the pin in place and its not as bulky as my mac or sunnex its been 4 years and its still holding strong... but yes that pin will fly out of that sping
How strong was that impact!? I use a 1/2" 500ft-lbs blue point and have had those Pittsburg swivels for YEARS. But i also have a 1/2" 1,200ft-lbs impact that i wouldn't use on any impact swivel. A hammer is a hammer until it's clearly too big, you won't see that on any "hammer instructions"
was it impact rated?
That’s why you only use impacts to put bolts on
Snap on swivels and universal ball swivels will bind and get tight before they explode. When they get tight warranty it out. Not one time in over 20 years of daily use have I ever had a snap on one explode on me.
Of you weld each hole it's a hell of a swivel, mines going 18yrs no problem
The matco swivel sockets with the 4 fins instead of that bar work better i feel like also if you throw aome molly grease in them they last longer
Its almost like the snapon truck is parked outside waiting to warranty a tool for some of these mechanics.
Snap-on truck is usually sitting outside bc the franchisee is inside having to beg everyone to pay the bill they agreed to but now try to hide from haha
cold day in hell before a little pin flying 35 mph is going to kill me.
I bought snap-on wrenches from Facebook long story short snap-on would not replace broken ratchet if your not the original owner. And the gear cost was more than a complete set of 1/2 harbor freight set
My Milwaukee 1/2 bit driver adapter shattered using my M12 impact and nearly lost my thumb
I've used that exact swivel on a high output impact tons of times with no failures. This design isn't unique to Harbor Freight. If the story is true, I'm wondering if someone set you up. That impact swivel def isn't gonna kill you.
looks like a well used socket. maybe replace things before they break?
That would never happen to a Koken impact swivel.. you're right you can't get away with spending $4 at harbor freight on everything that's so dangerous. I'm glad you weren't hurt.
That’s what most don’t understand, they say “oh you can get a replacement it’s eazy and free” but when you have a customer waiting and a deadline to meet you don’t have time to go back and make that warranty. For me I do have a harbor freight impact set with a swivel but it’s the Quinn set and it works great for Heavy diesel repair. I don’t trust those Pittsburg swivels, maybe there sockets but I’ve seen multiple broken swivels from Pittsburg. (I know Quinn and Pittsburg are basically the same but the swivels are different on both sets Quinn is built better)
Moral of the story is literally any tool can break and harbor freight is just fine.
Harbor freight lol 😂
The only brand swivel I haven't had break are very old MAC tools swivels 3/8 and 1/2 inch, but I do have a 1/4 snap-on but it doesn't see impact or high torque
I've had my cheap socket break in -75 out we were replacing the tires and the peaces broke off
I got the greys pneumatic ones and I’ve had them for a few years. $100 seems to be worth it as they haven’t exploded with an impact lol.
I have the same problem.. When a tool I'm using breaks and causes a problem, it's always a tool that, 'somebody slipped into my toolbox'.. I just happened to grab and use it without noticing that I didn't put it there. If I even catch that SOB, we're going to have some words.
If you’ve never had people use your shop, you’re the lucky sob haha
I have seen MAC impact sockets break in two. But I have not seen a tool truck swivel separate like that one.
Ive broken mac snapon pittsburg sunnex and tekton all the same. When you abuse the tool long enough itll fail
You NEVER use impact guns on universal joints. Most will fail if you do.
I have this tool and have used it plenty with an impact wrench without an issue.
I'm a home mechanic and I would say a pretty good one. I've hand no problem with Harbor Freight sockets and hand wrenches. My double swivel ratchet I would rate only as fair but it does work. The torque wrenches are better than people think but I use them for wheel nuts and such. I would rather have something else for moire exact work though. In general, the more moving parts it has, the more moving parts it has, the less you can trust it. Harbor Freight does honor its lifetime warrantees, and I have collected on them. I cannot speak to Harbor Freight's high end tool line, but I would shop around before I bought them. Harbor Freight gets hacked but it's not always deserved. The cheap power tools are for one time or occasional use. Harbor Freight sells three grades of many items. The top grade is comparable in price to the name brands. It has to be.
sometimes after I fix something for someone. they asked me why did that break.
I SAY BECAUSE THESE DAYS STUFF DON'T LAST FOREVER
The best universals I have found are the GEARWRENCH x-core, I can hardly seem to break them
That tool has been road long and hard. The groove marks don't lie 🤥😂
I am a retired mechanic and I Do by what works for me and I don't have any problems at all with Harbor Freight Tools none they are affordable and they work great
I have all pin universals from matco and some Mac.
Deep, short, 6 point, etc and they all do this. My gear wrench xcore have taking a decent beating and havnt broke on me yet.