I agree, tactical isn’t it, as when you set up the perfect ambush, waiting until the ultimate moment to hit an enemy tank flank right into its weak side armor, hit it with a round that is 2 to 3 times the penetration power of the plate armor and it just goes, “bounce”. It’s arcade at best, just as rigged as any circus carnival game I’ve ever encountered.
I know most people will disagree with you but I am with you .. yesterday we lost a game because yes there was an invisible tank that non of the 8 tanks on my team could "outspot" him
I’ve had tanks sitting in the base circle well within my view range and be completely invisible with no objects to hide behind. Crazy. Also have experienced tanks going invisible after shooting my first round, re-aim and shoot exactly where they were sitting only to ghost round, then have the tank reappear in exactly the same spot, shoot me then disappear once again. It’s plain and simple as the game is either broken or rigged, believe what you will, it’s not right.
6 year player - done all the countries, finished all the tier 10's and now no longer play WW2 - CW is a breath of fresh air - no arty and no +2-2. After 6 months am sitting with 60 million in silver.
Like you I have found myself playing Cold War almost all of the time. Initially I thought the cost of upgrades was too much but I can’t moan as Silver earn rate more than covers upgrades. In addition to all your comments one of the major pluses is no ARTY!…
I always aked myself why the hell can I see the house in the distance but I can not see the tank right next to it even though I know it's there. I understand the spotting mechanic in WWII but it really never made sense...
I never play WW2. The starting tanks, while not as good as the top of the era tanks, are still way more fun to play than 8 tiers of WW2. I forgot how horrible that grind was when I moved to the console, as I had multiple tier tens for many many years on PC. I am all in on cold war, having fun in wot for the first time in YEARS, and completely agree with you post on the vision system. Any way I look at it, cold war is better.
In all seriousness though you should look up the spotting mechanics. Learn to use terrain to close the distance. Try blind firing tracers sometimes. Learn where tanks like to hide. There’s plenty of ways to skillfully deal with stealthy camping tanks that can out spot you. The spotting system is perfectly fine and within your ability to control.
I first downloaded this game in 2016, and didn’t like it, so I uninstalled it, and didn’t come back to it until just before Christmas last year. By then, CW mode was in full swing, and I enjoy it thoroughly. I have recently, thanks to Riki’s Arty Party stream, become an arty convert, but that’s about all I enjoy about WWII mode. Yes, the tanks in CW are way more expensive, but they are generally faster, have larger health pools, better guns, and earn way more silver than those in WWII. And as you pointed out, the vision systems in the two game modes are completely, frustratingly different. True Vision seems to be more realistic and more fair. If they were to adopt it into WWII, I’m sure those of us who play only occasionally would indeed play more. I hate to say it, but unless WWII mode adopts the same vision system, I agree with you, CW is the future of this game on console. Looking very much forward to the German and Israeli lines coming this summer.
wot blitz is awesome but in the old days i hate it so i uninstalled it and i install it again in 2022 cuz the resources are okay now in the old days my resources decrease every battle
Absolutely agree. Tru vision allows the players to actually use a tank more like it is in the real world. Long distance death. TD players rejoice you can snipe and support properly! WW2 vision is far more of video game feature then Tru vision, and mechanically is far more inspiring of yoloing. You can't detect the enemy unless it's in your bubble. Despite the player clearly seeing the bush the enemy is hiding behind from afar. I love watching a tank blink in and of existence because it's hiding behind a rock half a meter outside my view range. But WW2 is recommendable to people who prefer a competitive, but slower paced, game. I also prefer the era tech tree to the tier tech tree because a Maus facing an Strv 103B doesn't make sense to me.
@@wot1fan885 a td hiding behind a bush at 500m-700m, especially in Era 1, can go undetected ( CW tds still have the broken camo that was once shared by CW light tanks) and deliver quite a lot of damage. Obj. 268 and FV4005 can sit back and impede enemy tank movements well before anyone has been spotted. It's nice being able to actually set up an ambush outside of the enemies effective firing range. WW2 mode is playing chess with the handicap of seeing your opponents pieces when they're one square away from yours.
Great perspective video Riki Been playing since day 1 launch, so 8 years ago on Xbox 360 I'm totally hooked on Cold War, pretty much left WW2, apart from trying to grind the wheeled lights. Agree the vision system and lack of artillery makes, for me, the CW game mode more enjoyable. Over time now variety has been introduced, primarily lights and anti tank missiles. ERA 3 has a problem with variety given heavy tanks are fast and powerful, rendering the limited lights and TDs useless, but it is still an enjoyable game mode albeit it gets tired quite quickly. ERA 1 is similar in play style to WW2 except for the vision system, whilst ERA 2 is just a blast, anything goes arena - Armadillos, missiles and the overpowered FVs. On the CW costs, I started off just playing stock and not upgrading and, for the most part, it doesn't make a great deal of difference. I wish more people would take another look at CW...
The only comparison I can put ww2 and cw is like cw is Rock Paper Scissors and ww2 is Pokémon both have the same mechanics but one has effective value stats Long are the days of where a vanguard can be hiding in a bush 50m away from a chieftain who is proper bricking it wondering where they are being spotted ww2 there are a load of major factors that kick in to it with speed, camo, vision and effective skills/equipment to improve your overall stats and so many different versions of that can be disrupted cw is more balanced where tanks are nearly all similar to each other and even with upgrades from skills and equipment it’s not going to be a massive factor other than the heal mechanic in the mode With the first battle at the end you had line of sight but your sixth sense never went off so they could have been outside your proxy detection with em being right at the edge of the cap with the leo and t-43 might have the silent engine skill if they wasn’t moving it’s gonna be hard to pick up which that skill is meant to work At 5:23 you was out of the heavy tank/they was out of your radio range so you don’t know where they are the only thing you know is they are alive In ww2 every skill, equipment and load out matters in cw you can be picky in what you have on your tanks that’s going to benefit you more than the others End of the day they are 2 different 3rd person shooters with the play styles some enjoy one flavour some enjoy the other some enjoy both or some don’t like any at all :)
Even tho it’s true vision u realize that good players actually use the bush to hide in or behind when shooting. Soooo view range actually matters to see some tanks it’s not all pick whatever u want. Mr ww2 skills, equipment, load out matters. everything actually matters lol Camo matter in Cold War to give you that effect of being hidden while firing behind a object concealed while still being seen of course in the true vision aspect. But not detected, or actually having the tank shaped being seen if your using your terrain the right way. Bush, trees etc. Six sense good on Cold War can help utilize that strategy. To know when your seen through bushes. Not every map is always open. U don’t have to go brawl all the time. Not to mention the fact you actually have to take a concealed route to hide your attack scheme so a speed build can be used for that purpose or to take key terrain away by securing it 1st to make them have to fight you for it vs having a 50/50 of who gets it. or to have a rammer build set up so when your hull down the enemy can’t just rush you because main battle tanks can pull a Obi-wan and say I have the high ground and will take 1000 hp off your tank with a ram depending on if they are using a heavy beast like the m1a2 or leopard 2av5 So the plan of attack must change. And having spall liner might also give u the option along with prek crew skills to open options to take the hill even tho he’s got a elevated position so you won’t be so screwed when’s he coming down at you. The track protection cough could counter them tracking you coming down a hill so it matters. Your flawed and biased so stfu trying to be a saint saying they offer both good and then the next hate being a complete fool of your self and contradict yourself the next. An yes I was bored an had nothing to do for like 5 mins so suck it I responded to you lol An yes I have a life don’t use that because my response is just as long as yours Nate Diaz ARMY MOTHER FUCKER 🖕🏽 But uh yeah lol
I find myself in a similar position, having started the grind for the IS4 yesterday, after playing exclusively cold war to grind the machine contract & my god, are you right. I used to hate true vision, but now feel lost without it. Also, I'd say it's more fair, in that an M46A1 can pen a T95E3, but the disparity between tiers in WWII is often a big enough drop off to ensure you can't pen higher tiers. My tank rage is creeping back at pace!
Completely agree the tanks in the tiers are very similarly matched. WW2 mode playing a tier 6 medium against a tier 8 heavy premium mostly you cannot even pen. Plus WW2 has disappearing tanks
I have just finished grinding the Machine also Isaac, and for the most part I did this in CW. I have gone back to WW2 in the last 2 weeks and it so much more frustrating
Completely agree. On WWII, I enjoy playing in light tanks, but...when your tier 8 and your getting both outspotted and WAY outgunned by tier 9 & 10's, its just not fun at all. It's incredibly difficult to scout when they can outspot and literally one shot you! I feel like they only have to look at you and your dead 😖. I am very much enjoying staying alive alot longer in my Cold War tanks. Also, I love the fact there's no artillery! Currently grinding the American medium line, M60 etc. All the best!😊
I agree for WW2. The vision system is off. It’s hard to stay hidden when you’re hiding perfectly, but it’s even easier for lights to spot. It’s like as if the moment I am spotted, I am hit with a T92HMC firing golds.
@@cosmancho2959 I see with your comment that you don't play this games many times, or maybe you only play tier 3, it's ok. Personally I play tier 9 also, and I see tier 7 before they see me. so if I want to shoot them, I shoot them and he can do nearly nothing against that.
Since The Modern Armor Update.. The game delivered everything I hoped to see in the game.. I always wanted True Vision Mainly Because to me it is a Broken Game Mechanic and players who say they kNoW How tO PlAy tHe GaMe.. Knows how to expliot this mechanic... Seeing a tank Disappeared right in front of me is game breaking.. Alot of people hate CW is because of True Vision it requires real skill to play that and they will not have that mechanic to rely on.. and the game needed Modern Tanks because eventually the game would of reached a stalemate with no more new tanks to add.. There is alotttt of Tanks developed from 1950 to 2022...
Same here. An 8 year player. Moved on to Cold War. Didn’t see much potential at first but after seeing the M3A2 Bradley added made me want to play it (being my favorite tank from Battlefield Bad Company 2) and ever since then I’ve been hooked. I have tried going back to play a few of my old tanks but just can’t deal with the vision functionality anymore. Plus CW is more fast paced and just feels more balanced in a way. I know their are rockets but least their is an alternative to assist you in seeing those rockets incoming. Only thing I don’t agree with is the CW FV4005. I don’t think it should be in CW 😂.
Well said couldn't agree more! Been posting on forms and all comments from word gaming that they need to implement plus 1 - 1 With true vision in World War II mode for about 3 years.
Lol true vision is never coming to world war 2. They did a survey about it and they even trialed it for a week in ww2. It completely broke the game. 90%+ disliked it. Light tanks driving around in the enemy spawn completely unspotted, spotting everything, utterly broken
Totally agree. I don't even want to play WW2 anymore because you also have to add in that its harder to take control of the game when you have a majority of the team throwing their tanks away.
That’s why ww2 is better. It’s way more tactical. You yolo like everyone does in CW in WW2, and you’re dead in 5 seconds. CW is a meme mode. Mario kart with tanks
I dispise cold war because of the vision system I play on a 55 in TV which makes it difficult to see at long rage because everything I's blury and distorted but all I'm also a short sighted which further adds to the difficulty anther reason why I dispise it is the guided missiles especially tanks like the weasel
Its only "fun" becuse its too strong in cw in ww2 its perfectly balanced and thats the problem the community only likes overpowered tanks thats why wargameing introduces them so often
researching every same module on the next tank is just a rip off look at pc once you researched it it stays researched now i have to research the same gun on every T72 in era 3 is just ripping off players!
I enjoy both modes but from the very first time I played ww2 I could clearly see that the vision system is out dated . What I mean by outdated is that it's obvious that the ww2 vision system has been made a feature, mechanic because of technology restraints at the time it was originally designed. Most pcs were unable to keep rendering objects so for mass consumption it had to be limited rendering. It's always amazed me that players are so proud of being able to master the ww2 vision mechanics and how a tank you are fighting is able to move a metre back and become totally invisible . It's not re grinding tanks in cw it's grinding out a better version of the ww2 tanks As for cost of CW its costs are relative. Excellent video 👍
True, CW is only expensive to start, once you're earning it is pretty balanced. A couple of months back I would've argued against true vision, but now... I'm sold on it completely
@@isaachunt7107 m8 I got several issues with the game I'm general. The main one is having to lose 7 games in a row everyday when I play it for the 2nd time. Why 7?? Every day , its driving me crazy. Nothing I can do to win those games.
It takes more than “moving backwards one meter to become invisible” to master the spotting mechanics in WW2 That’s how the game has also been since day 1. And that’s how it will always be FailWar will never take off and will never be more popular, ever. And was a waste of time and resources that could have been spent better improving and balancing WW2
totally agree with you , im nearly 8 years playing . i no longer play ww2 , i dont even have any tanks any more , if they decide to change it to keep inline with cold war , then im sure ill return , ive banked over 11 mil in 2 days playing cold war , over 200,000 a game in the nm16 with no boosters either , best tank in cold war for me at era 1
That is true.👍 I sell almoust all my wwll tanks. I play only cw. Also it works against tanks of same level era1, era2, era3. WWIi you have to play with a tier 8 tank in tier 10.i dont think it's fear. Artillery is a story of its own.
I'm only playing cold war because WW2 mode is disgusting in the console. The matchmaking, weird camo system, stupid RNG and the FUCKING artillery... it just makes no sense for me then I guess I'll be playing cold war until I get a PC to play the real version of the game
I think the opposite. The camo system in WW2 is in my opinion a tactical feature to use, in CW you can get shot from the other side of the map. Not every map is made for CW, so ppl who know the dirty little spots own the game. Additionally I think there are too many broken tanks in CW, tiny fast rocket launchers who kill you our of nowhere etc… I just enter CW from time to time to earn silver. But there is no fun for me, playing against clan platoons with 3 gunmarks, they run the enemy or my team. I get your point, you enjoy CW. But I am a casual player, I don’t have all day to study the maps, learn each new OP CW premium tank and tbh is the gameplay in CW too fast for my taste sometimes. And since I often find the queue lobby empty or just 20 players waiting for a game, I think the majority of players are not having much fun in CW. So I personally think the opposite and I think that’s fine, different ppl have different tastes
I've been playing WoT for 8 years and I am making the switch to Cold War from WW2 because of your video! I had no idea you could earn SO MUCH SILVER, and it seems significantly more fair for everyone, thank you for the video!!
100% agree. I would love to see true vision in WWII. But WG will not bend on this. I prefer the Tanks from WWII, but the mechanics in CW are so much better. WG need to revisit True Vision in WWII again. Do it as an event once a month.
If you can recall, True Vision was HEAVILY panned by the community in WW2 during its testing phases. It may be okay in Cold War, but True Vision should NEVER come close to touching WW2. It would ruin a core mechanic of the game.
True vision doesn’t work in WW2 because tanks are balanced around the traditional spotting mechanics They should keep 💩 vision as far away from WW2 as possible because it’s garbage
@@jacobsekela8691 I was one of the people that really liked True Vision in WWII. They only thing that didn't work for me was that when the tank wasn't spotted it wasn't a silhouette like in cold was so premium Tank with loud camos like the Tiger Shark or Dragon stuck out like a sore thumb. I remember seeing a tiger shark on Malinovka Winter and due to the True Vision mechanic now greying out the tank when not spotted I could see it as clear as day on a white background. This isn't an issue with True Vision now, so the only negative I had for it originally has been fixed.
My biggest turn off for cold War starting off was the first tanks for every line. Especially the starting US tank which is absolutely horrible at everything and you get absolutely destroyed by every other tank if you don't sit in the back only pushing when the enemy is at a horrible disadvantage.
@@kekkonengaming it's a lower tier support tank imo. I usually work alongside a E3 or a heavy and have done very well with it in the past but haven't played it for a while now.
Interesting points. I didn't mind true vision. But I didn't enjoy playing cold war. And now they have missiles and it feels as though its a light tank game. Ww2 has quite a few issues particularly the rise of players that don't know how to play and just form trains, this is happening in tiers 9 and 10 now. I'm hoping that as they get more experienced it'll go back to player skill, strategy and tactics like it was before wargaming got rid of the veteran player base.
I really enjoyed CW until the lights were introduced. They are seriously op - see Riki's BMP video and now there are so many lines to grind it's lost its' focus. I'm really enjoying WWII at the moment although the disappearing tanks is a real thing. I think it's a bug rather than anything planned but does need investigating by Wargaming.
Not even a light tank game lol era 3 mbts not scared of lights. Era 2 bmp2 and armadillos are very good but not op. Just stick together and don’t stand still or in open to get hit by atgm if your tank doesn’t have the protection to guard you from it in the front
I've been playing the game for the year and I engore this because I shake off the pain with super heavy,super heavy make me happy then just sit there almost impenetrable
I recently got a series x and down loaded wot after 5 years of wot blitz. Instantly chose Cold War the moment I seen it. Plus I somehow got a free premium tank t95e3, the most op tank in the entire game and man is it fun blowing everything up
They should rebalance the perk system, remove the useless perks that no one uses, add 1 to 3 more perks to be used rather than 9 let's get 10 or 12 also rebalance the equipment (i loved before when you could have as many perks as your grind and level could handle, but i understand it can be broken, but after i lost crews with over 15 perks, man that hurt because those grinds weren't easy, plus the true vision system would also work on WW2.
I highly disagree with this mainly because of the FPS generalization, this game is not a FPS it is a team based, role based, strategy game. Where people have their roles that complement each other and aid in allowing others to do well to achieve victory. CW takes this and ruins the whole point making everything devolve into a system where everything becomes a 1 man army that does not rely on any team play to counter weaknesses as there really are none. 6.0 already fundamentally changed the balance of the game, and CW just makes it so they divert development away from the actual game that people signed up to play.
I prefer cold war far more than WW-2 mode but I do enjoy both modes from time to time. I do hate that in WW-2 something can shoot you in plain sight but "Uh oh your crew is blind so therefore he's invincible to your shells." Which is why I enjoy cold war a pretty good bit more than WW-2. Great video overall.
Totally spot on video, well done sir. I personally have been playing since the beta began. I would also like the match making to be +1/-1 all the time in WW2. To make it feel more balanced . Cold War , I my option feels this and I rarely play WW2 much anymore. Thank you for your continued work on these videos.
True, true and again true. Surprisingly (I won't find it now) but on the WG forum I have read the official info that they were doing a three times poll about introducing True Vision on WWII and the result was negative each time. I am a bit surprised, but WG claims that they has such data and they not going to ask for the 4th time
In WW2: You have a limited distance on the map and therefore you just have a limited viewrange. That seems logical to me. And the tanks all have their pros and cons. Better armor, better gun, but less speed and less viewrange. You have to decide what you can play better with. In Cold War even a light tank is a main battle tank. They are to strong and in this mode you really don‘t need a LT to spot the enemy. All the different classes of tanks don‘t make any sense. And than, there are missiles. These should have at least 100 meters to fly to make any damage. Missiles should only work as long range weapons - just as in reality. I played Cold War a lot, but I returned to WW2. In my opinion it is the better, more tactical playstyle. But that‘s just my thought. No matter what mode you play, have fun !!! 😃
@@BrbWifeYelling I've been thinking long & hard about cold war lights too, like the op said, they're unnecessary with true vision & definitely don't yolo around the battlefield taking the piss in the real world
Well, i like the veiw system, but you if you are looking at a hidden tank you should spot it. Maybe the health and name stuff should appear within the veiw range?
Stopped playing both because of the mario karts light tanks they have really killed it they pen heavy’s from gods know where then the artillery is beyond a joke
I hope they will add some day a ww2 Era with the same vision system as in cold war and ww2 tanks without fantasy guns. The top tanks should all be from the ww2 era. I love ww2 tanks, but the vision system and the arty is unnecessary.
Riki. Are your crew skills/perks different in Cold War as opposed to WW2? Since tanks aren't invisible are 6th sense, optics and camo enhancements less important? I can see an argument for them even though I'm always visible the spotting mechanic would draw more attention to me than if I wasn't lit. I'd be interested in your thoughts or a video about it. Thanks
In Cold War, I would say optics are of no use. Camo enhancements still have their place though. A misconception with Cold War is people tend to think that because you’re always visible, that means you’re easily seen. This is not the case. Staying hidden and undetectable by the spotting mechanics is still a priority.
It’s weird people saying that WW2 sucks when that’s what the core game has been since the very beginning Cold War will never take off and the queue numbers and player counts across both modes proves that. People didn’t want Cold War
They need to have it to were you on get uptier by on tier not double up tier. So many games were I'm in a tier6 facing tier 8 htf does that make sense I'm guna have a hard time penning those tanks
Thank you so much I was beginning to think I was going insane or losing the plot. Now I know you've noticed this nonsense gameplay. I call them Ghost Tanks or Invisible Tanks. All you said I've been experienced and felt like not playing the game anymore which is sad because I think it's a great game without the Invisibility cheats without the bots on both sides and the enemy seeing my team but we can not see them. Also I've been stuck on tier 6 for almost a year playing for free but with bots not real players not sure how or if I will ever make it to tier 7 I play free on the PS4 not sure if that's why? Thanks
Never played CW mode. I've been playing WoT for 8 years, since the start. I wasn't really that arsed about 6.0 but there were some issues I had that have never been addressed and probably never will. The constant snapshotting from half the map away from someone not even aiming at you really pisses me off, especially when you're 2 tiers down and in something with no armour. The problems with the game right now are the 3 Cs. Campers, morons who won't move up or off the spawn, lost count of the amount of games I've lost because you're basically playing on your own. Capping, people capping when you're massively in the ascendancy. Why? Clueless players, just utterly, utterly useless players who have no idea what they are doing and do fuck all. I've had a dozen games today where I'm coming top in a tier 10 lobby with a Tier 8 tank with barely 2k combined. How can the player base be consistently so bad? Just useless.
@@airwolfsniper8243 Yeah definitely. I've no idea why they got rid of it, or war stories. It wasn't perfect but it gave you the basics. I suppose in their infinite wisdom they just assume people watch their youtube "tutorials" or find out the hard way. I've not ground a single line since 6.0, I really can't be doing with playing lower tiers ever again. The forum was infested with twats but it was actually pretty good for tank/tactics/armour/ammo info once upon a time but they seem to have decided that had to go too.
@@rmurphy3435 Maybe, I've been playing less than usual. It's not much fun any more. It's literally a chore trying to coax half the team off the cap in most games, particularly some maps. I can predict a loss now within 30 seconds due to team placement. I'm 55k+ games deep, I should just walk really before I waste more of my life playing it.
Hey, WoTC could be worse! I mean, it could be full of frustrating glitches! It could be played by a player base whose collective IQ is in negative numbers! It could be mind-numbingly boring, unnecessarily tedious, expensive as hell, and a complete and total waste of time! Wait a minute... Nevermind!
Not defending WW2 because I do prefer Cold War over it every day, but WW2 has a camouflage mechanic that can even keep a tank invisible even if they are inside your tanks view range. Remember, there are things like camo netting as equipment that add to a tanks camo factor, and even paint jobs add some too. Then you have commander skills like green thumb, silent driving, ect that all enhance camo values to a tank on top of the paint jobs and camo net equipment. All those aspects will affect what you see and when you will see, beyond just a tank being within view range. Now you say you love the death barn in Cold War, I think it needs a speed nerf because I’ve seen them chase down light tanks and even turn on a dime to keep up with them. It can easily out maneuver even fully upgraded medium tanks. It needs to have the same maneuverability as a fully upgraded centurion 2 to keep it in line with other era 1 medium tanks that are not carrying a massive naval cannon as a main weapon.
8 year WOT veteran here. Love CW as there are no arty and who doesn't want to play tanks with rockets!! My only problem with CW is the team that races around in a pack always wins, so do miss the strategy of ww2. However hate how unbalanced arty is - so will stick to CW until Arty 2.0 (That's if it makes any difference - always said they should have brought in the stun mechanics of pc)
Have to agree... I have played for 4 years but not continuously, keep coming back to this game only to be disappointed by the WW2 mode. CW was naff at first, but now with some very good tanks it's great and what I prefer to play. WW2 tech tree grinds are shit for the most past, you're constantly outclassed and outmatched, even mid tier premiums are useless at times. 6 shots from the Minuteman using premium ammo for no pens, because it was a tier IX game. Useless. The tanks I was interested in grinding for like the top centurions, M48s, Sheridans etc are now all in CW so I've junked and sold almost all my WW2 stuff, except for a few tier X premiums and concentrate on CW mode. It's just far better balanced to me and seems to be the main focus for WG on the console, despite what they say. I have nowhere near the number of frustrating games in CW that I have had in WW2. I don't have time to waste on frustrating fruitless games - there's enough frustration in real life. I don't expect to win all the time but still want satisfying games. The inbuilt bias in WW2 as well as the unbalanced matchmaking is so ingrained in WW2 it cannot be fixed, the attitude we get is "there it is, deal with it. Git gud" and other such statements from morons.
I've been dabbling in WoT again for last week or two and I recently tried the CW mode and I believe it's still too grindy, I'm currently playing my Cent Mk.2 and just to put the 20pdr gun onto it the gun will cost 1.9mill silver lions and to spade the tank it'll cost over 4mill silver lions.
Hi Riki, Agree with your comments. Not only is true vision better but the Era system is what makes cold war so much better for me. The capability difference between the top "level" and bottom "level" tanks within a Cold War Era is much less than if you meet a tank 2 tiers higher in WW2. Grinding upgrades in Cold War is significantly less painful than in WW2.
That’s very false xD the fact that a bottom era tank can never face anything that is a “tier” lower than it makes the grind awful because as a bottom era tank it’s only +2-0 and a middle era tank would be +1-1 and a top era tank would be +0-2 so in fact the era system is worse than the tier system
WW2 is the most boring and slowest game mode that I ever played... Oh, wait, I forgot that we also have World of Warships which is definitely MUCH more boring)
It's called the concealment range if someone is sitting still in cover like brush you can't see them... plus you had 6hp and there is no way you could have reset that cap. Sorry nice opinion tho
I love the old school WW2 world of tanks, but that game is long dead. What we have now is something completely different, and if we’re going to have something totally different, I prefer Cold War. Reminds me of Armored Warfare (which is now completely dead) but more familiar since I’ve been playing this game on and off for over 7 years now.
I am in agreement with your comment about what inherently causes the toxicity within WW2 mode as a systemic problem within the core game itself. That problem is also then again compounded by the unbalanced matchmaking with too few skilled or veteran players from one side to the other. WW2 now has about 70-80% of the players more often than not on both the winning or losing team managing 3 or less penetrating shots before being destroyed. As such WW2 mode is playing more similar to checkers than the chess game it once was. Perhaps more accurately checkers with a queen in play on the board, the queen of course being artillery. I find WW2 frustrating to play coming back from CW now if I am in anything other than a light vehicle or tank with similar stats to a light tank, which provides the closest playstyle to that of CW for me.
Love the channel, BUT: this time it sounds like a unicum who had ground all the crew skills, learned the maps, tanks stats to master view ranges/camo and has been rinsing less experienced players for years responding to complaints of “its not fair” with “Git gud scrub” THEN spends weeks mastering COld war and truevision and when he returns to ww2 the shoe is on the other foot and he’s forgotten how to play the game without truevision…… ah well 😅
You're right. Only, it doesn't take weeks to master CW. People that were unicum in WW2 have it even easier in CW. The noobs are even easier to farm because they have bigger tanks to hit and more HP to eat...
@@paskeetje you’re right lmao I only play CW for silver. I’m super unicum. Cold War is so easy it isn’t even funny There’s nothing in it to master. You can see everything. Unicums already know the best areas on maps to go to avoid getting shot by noobs trying to snipe 800m distance using true vision LOL
back when the true vision tests happened pre 6.0 along side +1/-1mm i found that i started doing a whole alot better as a casual player, i was able to play smarter without putting myself at risk like i usually do, personally +1/-1 and true vision are needed in the original game mode.
True vision isn’t needed in the original game Because tanks are balanced around the normal spotting mechanics. That’s why borsig’s can remain unspotted basically all the time but they are slow as balls to compensate If you had 💩 vision you’d have to make every tank roughly the same speed otherwise all it does it further throw out the balance of tanks Don’t you remember when they tested it in WW2? It was heavily disliked and for good reason
@@CN7810-X He's trying to make a point that true vision doesn't work in WW2 because it would make roughly 50% of the tanks in that mode completely unplayable. And he's right. I have no problem with true vision in CW because all the tanks being brought into that mode are developed for it. They're all very similar which makes it more boring in my opinion, but that another discussion. The tanks in WW2 are not developed for this so true vision would wreck that mode. The two should remain the way they are and be kept separate, imo.
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On reflection I will concede that World of Tanks Console isn’t strictly an FPS. It’s more of a Tactical Shooter.
its arcade...warthunder is tactical, try that...you wont be dissapointed..
I agree, tactical isn’t it, as when you set up the perfect ambush, waiting until the ultimate moment to hit an enemy tank flank right into its weak side armor, hit it with a round that is 2 to 3 times the penetration power of the plate armor and it just goes, “bounce”. It’s arcade at best, just as rigged as any circus carnival game I’ve ever encountered.
@@dan-xxx-8713 I tried it it sucks
I play ww2 I enjoy it I already have a game I play and invest with Cold War/modern armor games armored warfare
@@dan-xxx-8713 and both realism mode and arcade in WT? It’s pay to win I literally get one shot in a tiger
I know most people will disagree with you but I am with you .. yesterday we lost a game because yes there was an invisible tank that non of the 8 tanks on my team could "outspot" him
I’ve had tanks sitting in the base circle well within my view range and be completely invisible with no objects to hide behind. Crazy. Also have experienced tanks going invisible after shooting my first round, re-aim and shoot exactly where they were sitting only to ghost round, then have the tank reappear in exactly the same spot, shoot me then disappear once again. It’s plain and simple as the game is either broken or rigged, believe what you will, it’s not right.
Def prefer cold war for that very reason, getting sniped by a ghost tank is the worst.
@@mrmarksman718 absolutely
@@rmurphy3435 I had that invisible tank thing on Heilbronn earlier today & to make matters worse it was an SU152 & tore me a new arse for my KV3
You lost the game because you didn’t take into account the spotting system in ww2. It’s not the game’s fault. It’s your lol.
You are so right, very rarely play WW2 for this exact reason
6 year player - done all the countries, finished all the tier 10's and now no longer play WW2 - CW is a breath of fresh air - no arty and no +2-2. After 6 months am sitting with 60 million in silver.
Like you I have found myself playing Cold War almost all of the time. Initially I thought the cost of upgrades was too much but I can’t moan as Silver earn rate more than covers upgrades. In addition to all your comments one of the major pluses is no ARTY!…
Agreed with you 100%. I like the ww2 era a lot, it was the reason i started playing, but left it because of the vision system
John Cena You Can't See me lmao
JOHN CENA YOU CANT SEE ME LMAO but i feel exactly the same as you.
I always aked myself why the hell can I see the house in the distance but I can not see the tank right next to it even though I know it's there. I understand the spotting mechanic in WWII but it really never made sense...
Because at times WG does screw around with the camo setting with certain vehicles and they make bugs to occur with both vision & getting spotted.
I never play WW2. The starting tanks, while not as good as the top of the era tanks, are still way more fun to play than 8 tiers of WW2. I forgot how horrible that grind was when I moved to the console, as I had multiple tier tens for many many years on PC. I am all in on cold war, having fun in wot for the first time in YEARS, and completely agree with you post on the vision system. Any way I look at it, cold war is better.
I also find atgm's more acceptable than WWII arty with satellite aiming, at least you can shoot back at whatever just fired a missile
@@isaachunt7107 and if u have smoke u can counter the ATGMs, is more balanced, there no splash dmg
@@kanttyk.o3148 I don't usually carry smoke, but yes, you're absolutely right
Doesn’t understand game mechanics after 5 years.
Riki: “game mode SUCKS!!!”
Lol
In all seriousness though you should look up the spotting mechanics. Learn to use terrain to close the distance. Try blind firing tracers sometimes. Learn where tanks like to hide. There’s plenty of ways to skillfully deal with stealthy camping tanks that can out spot you. The spotting system is perfectly fine and within your ability to control.
I first downloaded this game in 2016, and didn’t like it, so I uninstalled it, and didn’t come back to it until just before Christmas last year. By then, CW mode was in full swing, and I enjoy it thoroughly. I have recently, thanks to Riki’s Arty Party stream, become an arty convert, but that’s about all I enjoy about WWII mode. Yes, the tanks in CW are way more expensive, but they are generally faster, have larger health pools, better guns, and earn way more silver than those in WWII. And as you pointed out, the vision systems in the two game modes are completely, frustratingly different. True Vision seems to be more realistic and more fair. If they were to adopt it into WWII, I’m sure those of us who play only occasionally would indeed play more. I hate to say it, but unless WWII mode adopts the same vision system, I agree with you, CW is the future of this game on console. Looking very much forward to the German and Israeli lines coming this summer.
I believe cw was and is the aim of WOTC therefore imo ww2 has become an enigma to those wanting to still play it.
wot blitz is awesome but in the old days i hate it so i uninstalled it and i install it again in 2022 cuz the resources are okay now in the old days my resources decrease every battle
Absolutely agree. Tru vision allows the players to actually use a tank more like it is in the real world. Long distance death. TD players rejoice you can snipe and support properly! WW2 vision is far more of video game feature then Tru vision, and mechanically is far more inspiring of yoloing. You can't detect the enemy unless it's in your bubble. Despite the player clearly seeing the bush the enemy is hiding behind from afar. I love watching a tank blink in and of existence because it's hiding behind a rock half a meter outside my view range. But WW2 is recommendable to people who prefer a competitive, but slower paced, game. I also prefer the era tech tree to the tier tech tree because a Maus facing an Strv 103B doesn't make sense to me.
Agreed, except that in the real world light tanks do not yolo around taking the piss lol
@@isaachunt7107 you say that, but some of the video out of Ukraine make me wonder.
@@amomentarygenius I avoid video out of Ukraine ever since the "Ghost of Kyev" incident
dude how do tds play tds if they are lit all game . makes no sense .
@@wot1fan885 a td hiding behind a bush at 500m-700m, especially in Era 1, can go undetected ( CW tds still have the broken camo that was once shared by CW light tanks) and deliver quite a lot of damage. Obj. 268 and FV4005 can sit back and impede enemy tank movements well before anyone has been spotted. It's nice being able to actually set up an ambush outside of the enemies effective firing range. WW2 mode is playing chess with the handicap of seeing your opponents pieces when they're one square away from yours.
Great perspective video Riki
Been playing since day 1 launch, so 8 years ago on Xbox 360
I'm totally hooked on Cold War, pretty much left WW2, apart from trying to grind the wheeled lights.
Agree the vision system and lack of artillery makes, for me, the CW game mode more enjoyable. Over time now variety has been introduced, primarily lights and anti tank missiles. ERA 3 has a problem with variety given heavy tanks are fast and powerful, rendering the limited lights and TDs useless, but it is still an enjoyable game mode albeit it gets tired quite quickly. ERA 1 is similar in play style to WW2 except for the vision system, whilst ERA 2 is just a blast, anything goes arena - Armadillos, missiles and the overpowered FVs.
On the CW costs, I started off just playing stock and not upgrading and, for the most part, it doesn't make a great deal of difference.
I wish more people would take another look at CW...
The only comparison I can put ww2 and cw is like cw is Rock Paper Scissors and ww2 is Pokémon both have the same mechanics but one has effective value stats
Long are the days of where a vanguard can be hiding in a bush 50m away from a chieftain who is proper bricking it wondering where they are being spotted
ww2 there are a load of major factors that kick in to it with speed, camo, vision and effective skills/equipment to improve your overall stats and so many different versions of that can be disrupted
cw is more balanced where tanks are nearly all similar to each other and even with upgrades from skills and equipment it’s not going to be a massive factor other than the heal mechanic in the mode
With the first battle at the end you had line of sight but your sixth sense never went off so they could have been outside your proxy detection with em being right at the edge of the cap with the leo and t-43 might have the silent engine skill if they wasn’t moving it’s gonna be hard to pick up which that skill is meant to work
At 5:23 you was out of the heavy tank/they was out of your radio range so you don’t know where they are the only thing you know is they are alive
In ww2 every skill, equipment and load out matters in cw you can be picky in what you have on your tanks that’s going to benefit you more than the others
End of the day they are 2 different 3rd person shooters with the play styles some enjoy one flavour some enjoy the other some enjoy both or some don’t like any at all :)
Even tho it’s true vision u realize that good players actually use the bush to hide in or behind when shooting. Soooo view range actually matters to see some tanks it’s not all pick whatever u want. Mr ww2 skills, equipment, load out matters. everything actually matters lol Camo matter in Cold War to give you that effect of being hidden while firing behind a object concealed while still being seen of course in the true vision aspect. But not detected, or actually having the tank shaped being seen if your using your terrain the right way. Bush, trees etc.
Six sense good on Cold War can help utilize that strategy. To know when your seen through bushes. Not every map is always open. U don’t have to go brawl all the time. Not to mention the fact you actually have to take a concealed route to hide your attack scheme so a speed build can be used for that purpose or to take key terrain away by securing it 1st to make them have to fight you for it vs having a 50/50 of who gets it. or to have a rammer build set up so when your hull down the enemy can’t just rush you because main battle tanks can pull a Obi-wan and say I have the high ground and will take 1000 hp off your tank with a ram depending on if they are using a heavy beast like the m1a2 or leopard 2av5
So the plan of attack must change. And having spall liner might also give u the option along with prek crew skills to open options to take the hill even tho he’s got a elevated position so you won’t be so screwed when’s he coming down at you. The track protection cough could counter them tracking you coming down a hill so it matters. Your flawed and biased so stfu trying to be a saint saying they offer both good and then the next hate being a complete fool of your self and contradict yourself the next. An yes I was bored an had nothing to do for like 5 mins so suck it I responded to you lol
An yes I have a life don’t use that because my response is just as long as yours
Nate Diaz ARMY MOTHER FUCKER 🖕🏽
But uh yeah lol
The good thing is WG didn't close the game down when the rebooted it 6.0 and we now have a game that a player can play either mode.
I find myself in a similar position, having started the grind for the IS4 yesterday, after playing exclusively cold war to grind the machine contract & my god, are you right.
I used to hate true vision, but now feel lost without it.
Also, I'd say it's more fair, in that an M46A1 can pen a T95E3, but the disparity between tiers in WWII is often a big enough drop off to ensure you can't pen higher tiers.
My tank rage is creeping back at pace!
Completely agree the tanks in the tiers are very similarly matched. WW2 mode playing a tier 6 medium against a tier 8 heavy premium mostly you cannot even pen.
Plus WW2 has disappearing tanks
@@davewedgbury1583 Yes & yes
I have just finished grinding the Machine also Isaac, and for the most part I did this in CW. I have gone back to WW2 in the last 2 weeks and it so much more frustrating
@@peterjanssen7573 I did the same with the chisel & machine contracts back to back & just finished on Friday... what a long grind that was
Completely agree. On WWII, I enjoy playing in light tanks, but...when your tier 8 and your getting both outspotted and WAY outgunned by tier 9 & 10's, its just not fun at all. It's incredibly difficult to scout when they can outspot and literally one shot you! I feel like they only have to look at you and your dead 😖.
I am very much enjoying staying alive alot longer in my Cold War tanks. Also, I love the fact there's no artillery! Currently grinding the American medium line, M60 etc.
All the best!😊
I agree for WW2. The vision system is off. It’s hard to stay hidden when you’re hiding perfectly, but it’s even easier for lights to spot. It’s like as if the moment I am spotted, I am hit with a T92HMC firing golds.
you have absolutely right about the -2 matchmaking. your only meat for the higher tier. what's the point to be a heavy tier vii against tier ix?
How about you use your damn brain?. You don't have to engage solo a tier 9.
@@cosmancho2959 I see with your comment that you don't play this games many times, or maybe you only play tier 3, it's ok. Personally I play tier 9 also, and I see tier 7 before they see me. so if I want to shoot them, I shoot them and he can do nearly nothing against that.
@@ericst-yves3107 I'm a super uni with 22k games.Been playing for 7 years. +2-2 is fine as it is.
@@cosmancho2959 so,. no life beside that, or have a second account to flash your Uni
Maybe it's right for you, but your are not alone
If artillery can see me from the end of the map i will be sad and mad all the time 😂
Since The Modern Armor Update.. The game delivered everything I hoped to see in the game.. I always wanted True Vision Mainly Because to me it is a Broken Game Mechanic and players who say they kNoW How tO PlAy tHe GaMe.. Knows how to expliot this mechanic... Seeing a tank Disappeared right in front of me is game breaking.. Alot of people hate CW is because of True Vision it requires real skill to play that and they will not have that mechanic to rely on.. and the game needed Modern Tanks because eventually the game would of reached a stalemate with no more new tanks to add.. There is alotttt of Tanks developed from 1950 to 2022...
Same here. An 8 year player. Moved on to Cold War. Didn’t see much potential at first but after seeing the M3A2 Bradley added made me want to play it (being my favorite tank from Battlefield Bad Company 2) and ever since then I’ve been hooked.
I have tried going back to play a few of my old tanks but just can’t deal with the vision functionality anymore. Plus CW is more fast paced and just feels more balanced in a way. I know their are rockets but least their is an alternative to assist you in seeing those rockets incoming.
Only thing I don’t agree with is the CW FV4005. I don’t think it should be in CW 😂.
Well said couldn't agree more! Been posting on forms and all comments from word gaming that they need to implement plus 1 - 1 With true vision in World War II mode for about 3 years.
Lol true vision is never coming to world war 2. They did a survey about it and they even trialed it for a week in ww2. It completely broke the game. 90%+ disliked it. Light tanks driving around in the enemy spawn completely unspotted, spotting everything, utterly broken
Totally agree. I experienced the same once I started playing Cold War.
Totally agree. I don't even want to play WW2 anymore because you also have to add in that its harder to take control of the game when you have a majority of the team throwing their tanks away.
That’s why ww2 is better. It’s way more tactical. You yolo like everyone does in CW in WW2, and you’re dead in 5 seconds. CW is a meme mode. Mario kart with tanks
@@TescoRoadman Seethe.
Very well said. Exact reason why i only play cold war. Another great video.. Thank you.
I dispise cold war because of the vision system I play on a 55 in TV which makes it difficult to see at long rage because everything I's blury and distorted but all I'm also a short sighted which further adds to the difficulty anther reason why I dispise it is the guided missiles especially tanks like the weasel
Totally agree on the 4005. CW variant is so much more fun, and what the 4005 should have been like in ww2.
Its only "fun" becuse its too strong in cw in ww2 its perfectly balanced and thats the problem the community only likes overpowered tanks thats why wargameing introduces them so often
researching every same module on the next tank is just a rip off look at pc once you researched it it stays researched now i have to research the same gun on every T72 in era 3 is just ripping off players!
It wasn’t always that way
I enjoy both modes but from the very first time I played ww2 I could clearly see that the vision system is out dated . What I mean by outdated is that it's obvious that the ww2 vision system has been made a feature, mechanic because of technology restraints at the time it was originally designed. Most pcs were unable to keep rendering objects so for mass consumption it had to be limited rendering.
It's always amazed me that players are so proud of being able to master the ww2 vision mechanics and how a tank you are fighting is able to move a metre back and become totally invisible .
It's not re grinding tanks in cw it's grinding out a better version of the ww2 tanks
As for cost of CW its costs are relative.
Excellent video 👍
True, CW is only expensive to start, once you're earning it is pretty balanced.
A couple of months back I would've argued against true vision, but now... I'm sold on it completely
@@isaachunt7107 m8 I got several issues with the game I'm general. The main one is having to lose 7 games in a row everyday when I play it for the 2nd time. Why 7?? Every day , its driving me crazy. Nothing I can do to win those games.
I'd never thought of the hardware restrictions being the reason for the WW2 vision system, interesting point.
@@cloraformsgood5340 I think WG bought all properties in the Twilight Zone lol
It takes more than “moving backwards one meter to become invisible” to master the spotting mechanics in WW2
That’s how the game has also been since day 1. And that’s how it will always be
FailWar will never take off and will never be more popular, ever. And was a waste of time and resources that could have been spent better improving and balancing WW2
totally agree with you , im nearly 8 years playing . i no longer play ww2 , i dont even have any tanks any more , if they decide to change it to keep inline with cold war , then im sure ill return , ive banked over 11 mil in 2 days playing cold war , over 200,000 a game in the nm16 with no boosters either , best tank in cold war for me at era 1
Ughhh I hate that dam little shit tank...that little fucker is always lurking somewhere 😅😅
Introducing true vision would be the only way I would go back to WW2
That is why I play only CW in wot console
That is true.👍 I sell almoust all my wwll tanks. I play only cw. Also it works against tanks of same level era1, era2, era3. WWIi you have to play with a tier 8 tank in tier 10.i dont think it's fear. Artillery is a story of its own.
I completely agree. Also doesn't help that your up against tanks that didn't even exist between 1939-45.
Cold War is much better. No arty, more party 👍
And u can counter ATGM's
absolutely agree with your opinions about ww2 vs cw
I'm only playing cold war because WW2 mode is disgusting in the console. The matchmaking, weird camo system, stupid RNG and the FUCKING artillery... it just makes no sense for me then I guess I'll be playing cold war until I get a PC to play the real version of the game
I 100% agree....I've always thought it was stupid that you couldn't see tanks right in front of you
I think the opposite. The camo system in WW2 is in my opinion a tactical feature to use, in CW you can get shot from the other side of the map. Not every map is made for CW, so ppl who know the dirty little spots own the game. Additionally I think there are too many broken tanks in CW, tiny fast rocket launchers who kill you our of nowhere etc…
I just enter CW from time to time to earn silver. But there is no fun for me, playing against clan platoons with 3 gunmarks, they run the enemy or my team.
I get your point, you enjoy CW. But I am a casual player, I don’t have all day to study the maps, learn each new OP CW premium tank and tbh is the gameplay in CW too fast for my taste sometimes. And since I often find the queue lobby empty or just 20 players waiting for a game, I think the majority of players are not having much fun in CW.
So I personally think the opposite and I think that’s fine, different ppl have different tastes
I agree. Rike loves the Cold War system likely because they are still new to the classic WoT.
I've been playing WoT for 8 years and I am making the switch to Cold War from WW2 because of your video! I had no idea you could earn SO MUCH SILVER, and it seems significantly more fair for everyone, thank you for the video!!
100% agree. I would love to see true vision in WWII. But WG will not bend on this. I prefer the Tanks from WWII, but the mechanics in CW are so much better. WG need to revisit True Vision in WWII again. Do it as an event once a month.
If you can recall, True Vision was HEAVILY panned by the community in WW2 during its testing phases. It may be okay in Cold War, but True Vision should NEVER come close to touching WW2. It would ruin a core mechanic of the game.
True vision doesn’t work in WW2 because tanks are balanced around the traditional spotting mechanics
They should keep 💩 vision as far away from WW2 as possible because it’s garbage
@@jacobsekela8691 I was one of the people that really liked True Vision in WWII. They only thing that didn't work for me was that when the tank wasn't spotted it wasn't a silhouette like in cold was so premium Tank with loud camos like the Tiger Shark or Dragon stuck out like a sore thumb. I remember seeing a tiger shark on Malinovka Winter and due to the True Vision mechanic now greying out the tank when not spotted I could see it as clear as day on a white background. This isn't an issue with True Vision now, so the only negative I had for it originally has been fixed.
My switch is basically also to cold war I have a lot of ww2 tanks but don't feel motivated to grind anything in ww2 till my grinds are done in cw.
My biggest turn off for cold War starting off was the first tanks for every line. Especially the starting US tank which is absolutely horrible at everything and you get absolutely destroyed by every other tank if you don't sit in the back only pushing when the enemy is at a horrible disadvantage.
The CW Patton is excellent once upgraded. The first tank I got 4 marks on.
@@cloraformsgood5340 In my opinion the 150 alpha, slow speed and no armour just makes it a uncompetitive vehicle
Lol I just replied to you thinking you were someone else about the ontos lol.
The Patton's dpm is excellent
@@cloraformsgood5340 That is true but dpm isn't going to save you in most situations
@@kekkonengaming it's a lower tier support tank imo.
I usually work alongside a E3 or a heavy and have done very well with it in the past but haven't played it for a while now.
I agree, the only reason I play ww2 is because I love playing ww2 tanks.
Is the Spottingmechanic working the same way for WWII as on the PC Version?
Interesting points.
I didn't mind true vision. But I didn't enjoy playing cold war. And now they have missiles and it feels as though its a light tank game.
Ww2 has quite a few issues particularly the rise of players that don't know how to play and just form trains, this is happening in tiers 9 and 10 now.
I'm hoping that as they get more experienced it'll go back to player skill, strategy and tactics like it was before wargaming got rid of the veteran player base.
I really enjoyed CW until the lights were introduced. They are seriously op - see Riki's BMP video and now there are so many lines to grind it's lost its' focus. I'm really enjoying WWII at the moment although the disappearing tanks is a real thing. I think it's a bug rather than anything planned but does need investigating by Wargaming.
Not even a light tank game lol era 3 mbts not scared of lights. Era 2 bmp2 and armadillos are very good but not op. Just stick together and don’t stand still or in open to get hit by atgm if your tank doesn’t have the protection to guard you from it in the front
I've been playing the game for the year and I engore this because I shake off the pain with super heavy,super heavy make me happy then just sit there almost impenetrable
Good. Yes, agree totaly re the WW2 vis sys. Its ALWAYS been the problem and always will. Well explained
I don’t like the true vision system in Cold War because I enjoy the spotting mechanics in WW2. Therefor I don’t play Cold War. Simple isn’t it!
I recently got a series x and down loaded wot after 5 years of wot blitz. Instantly chose Cold War the moment I seen it. Plus I somehow got a free premium tank t95e3, the most op tank in the entire game and man is it fun blowing everything up
They should rebalance the perk system, remove the useless perks that no one uses, add 1 to 3 more perks to be used rather than 9 let's get 10 or 12 also rebalance the equipment (i loved before when you could have as many perks as your grind and level could handle, but i understand it can be broken, but after i lost crews with over 15 perks, man that hurt because those grinds weren't easy, plus the true vision system would also work on WW2.
I highly disagree with this mainly because of the FPS generalization, this game is not a FPS it is a team based, role based, strategy game. Where people have their roles that complement each other and aid in allowing others to do well to achieve victory. CW takes this and ruins the whole point making everything devolve into a system where everything becomes a 1 man army that does not rely on any team play to counter weaknesses as there really are none.
6.0 already fundamentally changed the balance of the game, and CW just makes it so they divert development away from the actual game that people signed up to play.
Just one thing. Have you played CW and if so, how many games?
I prefer cold war far more than WW-2 mode but I do enjoy both modes from time to time. I do hate that in WW-2 something can shoot you in plain sight but "Uh oh your crew is blind so therefore he's invincible to your shells." Which is why I enjoy cold war a pretty good bit more than WW-2. Great video overall.
learn the mechanics get good noob
Totally spot on video, well done sir. I personally have been playing since the beta began. I would also like the match making to be +1/-1 all the time in WW2. To make it feel more balanced . Cold War , I my option feels this and I rarely play WW2 much anymore. Thank you for your continued work on these videos.
The cold war FV4005 can be unlocked in a day or two. The WW2 version takes about a month or two.
True, true and again true.
Surprisingly (I won't find it now) but on the WG forum I have read the official info that they were doing a three times poll about introducing True Vision on WWII and the result was negative each time. I am a bit surprised, but WG claims that they has such data and they not going to ask for the 4th time
Yes! Preach it! I will back out of Games if there is more than one super hellcat
You're literally saying things I had figured out a year ago when the mode first came out
In WW2: You have a limited distance on the map and therefore you just have a limited viewrange. That seems logical to me. And the tanks all have their pros and cons. Better armor, better gun, but less speed and less viewrange. You have to decide what you can play better with.
In Cold War even a light tank is a main battle tank. They are to strong and in this mode you really don‘t need a LT to spot the enemy. All the different classes of tanks don‘t make any sense.
And than, there are missiles. These should have at least 100 meters to fly to make any damage. Missiles should only work as long range weapons - just as in reality.
I played Cold War a lot, but I returned to WW2. In my opinion it is the better, more tactical playstyle. But that‘s just my thought.
No matter what mode you play, have fun !!! 😃
I think it just goes to show how much play styles differ... it really is "horses for courses"
Giving missiles a minimum arming distance is a great idea.
@@BrbWifeYelling I've been thinking long & hard about cold war lights too, like the op said, they're unnecessary with true vision & definitely don't yolo around the battlefield taking the piss in the real world
I agree with you! Played WOT for 8yrs gg
How do u go to ww2 gamemode
Well, i like the veiw system, but you if you are looking at a hidden tank you should spot it. Maybe the health and name stuff should appear within the veiw range?
Totally agree. Cw is what wot used to be like. I play cw way more than ww2. Maybe wg is doing this on purpose????
I dunno what world of tanks you were playing if CW resembles what the game used to be like
Not even close
What are you saying, man? The original WOT is based for like 80% on the view range/camo/detection mechanic. How could CW be like that in any way?
Stopped playing both because of the mario karts light tanks they have really killed it they pen heavy’s from gods know where then the artillery is beyond a joke
I watched one team lose 3 heavy’s to a single light buzzing around like a Ferrari on ice skates, pathetic.
@@rmurphy3435 sounds like a skill issue
@@TescoRoadman possibly but could be a rng issue as well.
I agree, the vision system is nonsense in ww2.
I hope they will add some day a ww2 Era with the same vision system as in cold war and ww2 tanks without fantasy guns. The top tanks should all be from the ww2 era. I love ww2 tanks, but the vision system and the arty is unnecessary.
Riki. Are your crew skills/perks different in Cold War as opposed to WW2? Since tanks aren't invisible are 6th sense, optics and camo enhancements less important? I can see an argument for them even though I'm always visible the spotting mechanic would draw more attention to me than if I wasn't lit. I'd be interested in your thoughts or a video about it. Thanks
In Cold War, I would say optics are of no use. Camo enhancements still have their place though. A misconception with Cold War is people tend to think that because you’re always visible, that means you’re easily seen. This is not the case. Staying hidden and undetectable by the spotting mechanics is still a priority.
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It’s weird people saying that WW2 sucks when that’s what the core game has been since the very beginning
Cold War will never take off and the queue numbers and player counts across both modes proves that. People didn’t want Cold War
Also in my super sneaky TD’s like the striker I can tactically outplay tier X’s
W video. Also NO ARTY! I love the newer tanks in Cold War too
They need to have it to were you on get uptier by on tier not double up tier. So many games were I'm in a tier6 facing tier 8 htf does that make sense I'm guna have a hard time penning those tanks
Thank you so much I was beginning to think I was going insane or losing the plot. Now I know you've noticed this nonsense gameplay. I call them Ghost Tanks or Invisible Tanks. All you said I've been experienced and felt like not playing the game anymore which is sad because I think it's a great game without the Invisibility cheats without the bots on both sides and the enemy seeing my team but we can not see them. Also I've been stuck on tier 6 for almost a year playing for free but with bots not real players not sure how or if I will ever make it to tier 7 I play free on the PS4 not sure if that's why? Thanks
Never played CW mode. I've been playing WoT for 8 years, since the start. I wasn't really that arsed about 6.0 but there were some issues I had that have never been addressed and probably never will. The constant snapshotting from half the map away from someone not even aiming at you really pisses me off, especially when you're 2 tiers down and in something with no armour. The problems with the game right now are the 3 Cs. Campers, morons who won't move up or off the spawn, lost count of the amount of games I've lost because you're basically playing on your own. Capping, people capping when you're massively in the ascendancy. Why? Clueless players, just utterly, utterly useless players who have no idea what they are doing and do fuck all. I've had a dozen games today where I'm coming top in a tier 10 lobby with a Tier 8 tank with barely 2k combined. How can the player base be consistently so bad? Just useless.
Your 3 Cs likely stem from a lack of tutorial. It took me years to learn and still learning.
@@airwolfsniper8243 Yeah definitely. I've no idea why they got rid of it, or war stories. It wasn't perfect but it gave you the basics. I suppose in their infinite wisdom they just assume people watch their youtube "tutorials" or find out the hard way. I've not ground a single line since 6.0, I really can't be doing with playing lower tiers ever again. The forum was infested with twats but it was actually pretty good for tank/tactics/armour/ammo info once upon a time but they seem to have decided that had to go too.
The game is just a mess and after 7 years still the same poor players, same poor programming, same poor incentives, just uninstall and be over it.
@@rmurphy3435 Maybe, I've been playing less than usual. It's not much fun any more. It's literally a chore trying to coax half the team off the cap in most games, particularly some maps. I can predict a loss now within 30 seconds due to team placement. I'm 55k+ games deep, I should just walk really before I waste more of my life playing it.
Hey, WoTC could be worse!
I mean, it could be full of frustrating glitches! It could be played by a player base whose collective IQ is in negative numbers! It could be mind-numbingly boring, unnecessarily tedious, expensive as hell, and a complete and total waste of time!
Wait a minute...
Nevermind!
When ww2 mode started there were only 2 tech tree lines. Usa heavy and td Germany heavy and td
I agree 💯%.
I also agree Riki see you on the battlefield
Not defending WW2 because I do prefer Cold War over it every day, but WW2 has a camouflage mechanic that can even keep a tank invisible even if they are inside your tanks view range. Remember, there are things like camo netting as equipment that add to a tanks camo factor, and even paint jobs add some too. Then you have commander skills like green thumb, silent driving, ect that all enhance camo values to a tank on top of the paint jobs and camo net equipment. All those aspects will affect what you see and when you will see, beyond just a tank being within view range. Now you say you love the death barn in Cold War, I think it needs a speed nerf because I’ve seen them chase down light tanks and even turn on a dime to keep up with them. It can easily out maneuver even fully upgraded medium tanks. It needs to have the same maneuverability as a fully upgraded centurion 2 to keep it in line with other era 1 medium tanks that are not carrying a massive naval cannon as a main weapon.
8 year WOT veteran here. Love CW as there are no arty and who doesn't want to play tanks with rockets!! My only problem with CW is the team that races around in a pack always wins, so do miss the strategy of ww2. However hate how unbalanced arty is - so will stick to CW until Arty 2.0 (That's if it makes any difference - always said they should have brought in the stun mechanics of pc)
Have to agree... I have played for 4 years but not continuously, keep coming back to this game only to be disappointed by the WW2 mode. CW was naff at first, but now with some very good tanks it's great and what I prefer to play. WW2 tech tree grinds are shit for the most past, you're constantly outclassed and outmatched, even mid tier premiums are useless at times. 6 shots from the Minuteman using premium ammo for no pens, because it was a tier IX game. Useless. The tanks I was interested in grinding for like the top centurions, M48s, Sheridans etc are now all in CW so I've junked and sold almost all my WW2 stuff, except for a few tier X premiums and concentrate on CW mode. It's just far better balanced to me and seems to be the main focus for WG on the console, despite what they say. I have nowhere near the number of frustrating games in CW that I have had in WW2. I don't have time to waste on frustrating fruitless games - there's enough frustration in real life. I don't expect to win all the time but still want satisfying games. The inbuilt bias in WW2 as well as the unbalanced matchmaking is so ingrained in WW2 it cannot be fixed, the attitude we get is "there it is, deal with it. Git gud" and other such statements from morons.
Get gud with pathetically rigged rng is laughable.
Tottaly agree after 10yrs of playing..
Taran right now is ripping the tier x to 8 apart
I've been dabbling in WoT again for last week or two and I recently tried the CW mode and I believe it's still too grindy, I'm currently playing my Cent Mk.2 and just to put the 20pdr gun onto it the gun will cost 1.9mill silver lions and to spade the tank it'll cost over 4mill silver lions.
Hi Riki, Agree with your comments. Not only is true vision better but the Era system is what makes cold war so much better for me. The capability difference between the top "level" and bottom "level" tanks within a Cold War Era is much less than if you meet a tank 2 tiers higher in WW2. Grinding upgrades in Cold War is significantly less painful than in WW2.
That’s very false xD the fact that a bottom era tank can never face anything that is a “tier” lower than it makes the grind awful because as a bottom era tank it’s only +2-0 and a middle era tank would be +1-1 and a top era tank would be +0-2 so in fact the era system is worse than the tier system
its now just my tank mussem
Im playing since 7 years and i like ww2 more and the vision system but you do you
5 years? Wow... The game says I have 8 years but in truth I played for a while on the xbox 360 and never played it again for a few years
Good point
WW2 is the most boring and slowest game mode that I ever played...
Oh, wait, I forgot that we also have World of Warships which is definitely MUCH more boring)
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I'm with you 5years and not positive how it works
It's called the concealment range if someone is sitting still in cover like brush you can't see them... plus you had 6hp and there is no way you could have reset that cap. Sorry nice opinion tho
Yes WW2 game mode does suck. I get so much hate online for saying so.
I love the old school WW2 world of tanks, but that game is long dead. What we have now is something completely different, and if we’re going to have something totally different, I prefer Cold War. Reminds me of Armored Warfare (which is now completely dead) but more familiar since I’ve been playing this game on and off for over 7 years now.
matchmaking needs working on overall
I may be the weird one but I enjoy both game modes changes it up a bit but I do feel like cold war is a bit more fair bc of the vision system
I am in agreement with your comment about what inherently causes the toxicity within WW2 mode as a systemic problem within the core game itself. That problem is also then again compounded by the unbalanced matchmaking with too few skilled or veteran players from one side to the other. WW2 now has about 70-80% of the players more often than not on both the winning or losing team managing 3 or less penetrating shots before being destroyed. As such WW2 mode is playing more similar to checkers than the chess game it once was. Perhaps more accurately checkers with a queen in play on the board, the queen of course being artillery. I find WW2 frustrating to play coming back from CW now if I am in anything other than a light vehicle or tank with similar stats to a light tank, which provides the closest playstyle to that of CW for me.
I play cold war most of the time
Love the channel, BUT: this time it sounds like a unicum who had ground all the crew skills, learned the maps, tanks stats to master view ranges/camo and has been rinsing less experienced players for years responding to complaints of “its not fair” with “Git gud scrub” THEN spends weeks mastering COld war and truevision and when he returns to ww2 the shoe is on the other foot and he’s forgotten how to play the game without truevision…… ah well 😅
I like that well said
You're right. Only, it doesn't take weeks to master CW. People that were unicum in WW2 have it even easier in CW. The noobs are even easier to farm because they have bigger tanks to hit and more HP to eat...
@@paskeetje you’re right lmao I only play CW for silver. I’m super unicum. Cold War is so easy it isn’t even funny
There’s nothing in it to master. You can see everything. Unicums already know the best areas on maps to go to avoid getting shot by noobs trying to snipe 800m distance using true vision LOL
back when the true vision tests happened pre 6.0 along side +1/-1mm i found that i started doing a whole alot better as a casual player, i was able to play smarter without putting myself at risk like i usually do, personally +1/-1 and true vision are needed in the original game mode.
True vision isn’t needed in the original game
Because tanks are balanced around the normal spotting mechanics. That’s why borsig’s can remain unspotted basically all the time but they are slow as balls to compensate
If you had 💩 vision you’d have to make every tank roughly the same speed otherwise all it does it further throw out the balance of tanks
Don’t you remember when they tested it in WW2? It was heavily disliked and for good reason
@@TescoRoadman well im sorry for liking something that you don't lmao move on bozo 😂
@@CN7810-X He's trying to make a point that true vision doesn't work in WW2 because it would make roughly 50% of the tanks in that mode completely unplayable. And he's right.
I have no problem with true vision in CW because all the tanks being brought into that mode are developed for it. They're all very similar which makes it more boring in my opinion, but that another discussion. The tanks in WW2 are not developed for this so true vision would wreck that mode.
The two should remain the way they are and be kept separate, imo.
bro this is an arcade and real time strategy game not an FPS game 💀