Why Qimir is a FALSE Sith Apprentice & Enemy to Darth Plagueis - Star Wars Theory

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  • @omorales81
    @omorales81 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +94

    Agree with your theory. I recently finished the Plagueis novel and when I heard Qimir say “you may call me Sith,” I started thinking he was illegitimate and discarded by the real Sith master and apprentice. I hope they keep the Muun and Bith species intact.

    • @naehafgh
      @naehafgh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Nope Qimir is just Apu from the Simpsons :S

    • @plokoon9619
      @plokoon9619 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      They won't, these Star Wars shows don't have the ability to write "Alien" characters, if the Acolyte even goes into the Plagueis territory and uses them as characters with relevant screen time, they will be made into human minorities. I personally see Plagueis being a woman, because behind every great man (Palpatine) is a Woman!

    • @frogalex8915
      @frogalex8915 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@plokoon9619you could have saved yourself some typing and just said you were a sexist pos

    • @CloudedinSanity1
      @CloudedinSanity1 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Well the Sith are by no means boy scouts. If he was "discarded" by a Sith Master, wouldn't the Sith Master just kill him (and ensure he is actually dead) rather than just "discarding" him and risking their discovery? If I wanted to stay in stealth, I probably would ensure there isn't somebody floating around who knows about me who might spill my secret.

    • @andremiller4863
      @andremiller4863 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@CloudedinSanity1the last episode showed Darth Plagues in the shadows following or watching…seeming to be spying on Qimir…and remember Qimir never referred to himself as Darth anything…

  • @darylsdesigns6679
    @darylsdesigns6679 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    Plagueis disliking martial combat and his dedication to studying the mysteries of the Force always led me to believe that the Muun mainly used Form VI Niman as his chosen lightsaber style

    • @TheStupendousWave
      @TheStupendousWave  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      I agree with this.

    • @legionforce1374
      @legionforce1374 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      In the book, it says he was trained and proficient/ mastered all forms of LS combat

    • @darylsdesigns6679
      @darylsdesigns6679 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@legionforce1374 based on Plagueis’ character, “proficient” in the seven forms seems most appropriate

    • @JDStone20
      @JDStone20 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not sure if that is correct, but it is a reasonable deduction.

    • @jamesbrigham1299
      @jamesbrigham1299 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheStupendousWave i believe Plagueis was a Form 5 user. in chapter 3, of the novelization, on the Wobegon, when battling the crew, it included all the main features of the form. In the rare times he used the lightsaber, he didn't really combine Force movements with it, A main feature of form 6.

  • @neusyns
    @neusyns 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    That low key shot u fired about "her equally naive sister" was hilarious

    • @roninwilson2406
      @roninwilson2406 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      100% But I kinda think both being naive is intentional...they each have half the picture. One kept naive by the Jedi, the other by the Sith teachings I suppose.

    • @Veganmilkdrinker
      @Veganmilkdrinker 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @neusyns 24 year Olds are naive , also almost all our heroes are naive at the beginning , Luke , Anakin all throughout his life, etc

    • @neusyns
      @neusyns 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Veganmilkdrinker naive is a nice way to call someone dumb.
      No, everyone is not naive and trust absolute strangers especially ones that just killed like 6 of your allies

    • @Veganmilkdrinker
      @Veganmilkdrinker 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @neusyns 6 of the people who took her away from her family then discarded her , he offered her the opportunity to kill him , did you just not pay any attention to what happened in the episode ?

    • @Veganmilkdrinker
      @Veganmilkdrinker 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@neusyns and naive is not synonymous with dumb , people can be intelligent but also naive

  • @Kaizen712
    @Kaizen712 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    unless they're planning a 2nd season, I doubt they'll introduce another baddie. The way it looks to me is that qimir is a dark jedi, the green skinned leader's padawan. I'm not expecting anything more complicated than that.

    • @jrhanna7485
      @jrhanna7485 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They haven't confirmed or denied a second season, but I am wondering if that is cause they will have a new spinoff show once they introduce the other Sith that is confirmed to be in the show. Kind of like it can't be confirmed cause it will give it away type of deal?

  • @jonloomis5210
    @jonloomis5210 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    The only other random new character to ever announce themself as a sith was Ventress when she met Dooku, and he corrected her. The only thing that does make Qimir lean towards the real deal is the apparent knowledge of the sith code which he almost says a part of before Mae cuts him off when he is the alchemist.

  • @ednamodee
    @ednamodee 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    Qimir: I really don't have a name...oh, wait yes I do. The name is Venamis, Darth Venamis.

    • @jaylm4112
      @jaylm4112 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Sith is the closest name he could come up with.. Did to watch it or rely on these guys to get your ideas I mean no offense but he said you'd call me sith..
      Think about this they live in the high Republic era when you don't even know you can reach the force through hate and anger.. this guy is so isolated he thinks he figured it out of course he knows he's not a sith he just knows they're gonna consider him one because he wants to use his power in any way he wishes and decides to do it

  • @hydromancer4916
    @hydromancer4916 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +453

    the reality: the acolyte's writers have no idea who darth tenebrous or plagueis are

    • @merv3139
      @merv3139 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      That’s what it seems like lol

    • @darthpaul490
      @darthpaul490 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Do you really think dave filoni would allow a storyline that has no base in lore to get thru?(

    • @hydromancer4916
      @hydromancer4916 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      @@darthpaul490 Yes, all he has done for his entire stay at Star Wars is dismantle the Clone Wars multimedia project.

    • @user78405
      @user78405 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@merv3139 @hydromancer4916 i find both of you lacking in confidence when dave filoni know more than audience knows ...it means the script is quite good for dave filoni to get a pass

    • @Spike-ex5bp
      @Spike-ex5bp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      You mean it's not going to match up with your oh so inspiring and jaw dropping fan fiction that you spent hours tweaking out on in your mommy's basement

  • @albertlamar5938
    @albertlamar5938 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I would prefer if Qimir is his own thing, rather than repeating another Sith drama.
    My head canon is that he may have had contact with the Sith, but is so focused on personal freedom that he could not be a seervant to anyone...as he said the Jedi, he wants to do what he wants without answering to anyone.
    So, definitely a dark side wielder, but one setting his own agenda.
    Does not want to be limited by either the Sith or Jedi.

    • @Byronic19134
      @Byronic19134 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And yet he wants an Acolyte?

  • @fazbrogaming7776
    @fazbrogaming7776 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    If we are to take the opening crawl for episode 1 of the acolyte seriously, (100 years before the rise of the empire) the. this show is actually not 100 years before ep 1 but before ep 3, which means it’s about 87 years before ep 1.

    • @carsonbode6640
      @carsonbode6640 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      So you're saying this takes place in 119 BBY rather than 132 BBY?

    • @devincrenshaw4865
      @devincrenshaw4865 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Do those 13 years actually matter? That would mean that the death of the witches and the fire happened 100 years before ep1

    • @cloudmaster182
      @cloudmaster182 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@devincrenshaw4865 I mean it's just a matter of being specific w the timeline. Does any of this matter? Do the prequels matter?

    • @devincrenshaw4865
      @devincrenshaw4865 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@cloudmaster182 No they actually don't matter. I'm the prequels, Anakin becomes a Jedi and his mom died which is a major event. If the show starts at 87 BBY and then we flash back to when they were kids it's covering back to 100BBY. So it literally doesn't matter because they show spans the entire time range of the discrepancy, which is 13 years.

    • @EagleLeader1
      @EagleLeader1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I swear that even Legends counts the rise of the Empire as starting from Episode I. So while it makes sense the count should start as III it may not be considered so.

  • @OtandaGaming
    @OtandaGaming 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    In the words of Disparu, you’re putting way more thought into this than the writers.

    • @Byronic19134
      @Byronic19134 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not everybody likes to be as angry as that guy is all the time.

  • @JackPitmanNica
    @JackPitmanNica 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I love Qimir in this show, hes played really really well. Maybe escept for that one awkward head twitch. Seems like a great villian ! Best part of the show lol

  • @gonzovolo
    @gonzovolo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This makes so much sense that it’s all but guaranteed Disney won’t do it

  • @OptimumGaming149
    @OptimumGaming149 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    This train of thought it too well put together for Disney 😂

    • @TheLuconic
      @TheLuconic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Exactly. As much as this theory sounds good, it’s just bad story writing….

    • @cloudmaster182
      @cloudmaster182 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So you think they set all this stuff uo just like for no reason to not have a payoff?

    • @user-rp6gl7zh1b
      @user-rp6gl7zh1b 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@cloudmaster182 No the writers definitely have something big planned for the finale

    • @cloudmaster182
      @cloudmaster182 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-rp6gl7zh1b agreed

    • @tbct4619
      @tbct4619 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-rp6gl7zh1b hopefully cool-aid potions.

  • @jacksonbrummett2074
    @jacksonbrummett2074 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    This is exactly why I thought he was thanks for the theory

  • @tguice76
    @tguice76 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I like this Theory most, out of all of the theory's that have come before. I totally didn't know about the story of Venemous before now.

  • @isaacmartinez7557
    @isaacmartinez7557 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’ve said it once about this show, I’ll say it again: You’re giving it far too much credit with these awesome theories.

    • @Byronic19134
      @Byronic19134 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I love when people say “I said it once and I’ll say it again…” like just say it again or shut up we don’t care that you said it before. Making me read extra words for no reason.

  • @grimthehaunter1330
    @grimthehaunter1330 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is exactly what I thought The Stranger was the Canon version of Darth venomous

  • @aidanglenane8330
    @aidanglenane8330 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Been a fan of yours since your channel started thanks for bringing great stuff

  • @Gor85
    @Gor85 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is great story. It's possible Qimir is imposter. Duel between Plagueis and Venemous is great! May the Force be with you too😊

  • @maxbarber2341
    @maxbarber2341 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    THANK YOU! Ive said it for weeks now. I also think the teeth on the mask is similar to Venoms in Spiderman and also he made poison for Mae which is handmade venom. Bosh

  • @krazyk18
    @krazyk18 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    You're giving Disney too much credit. They're going to have a dumb backstory for Qimir. They won't use any pre-existing lore that most fans enjoy.

    • @tardarsauce3355
      @tardarsauce3355 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I hope you’re wrong, but you’re likely to be right

    • @scottboa2738
      @scottboa2738 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If either Jon Favreau or Dave Filoni are involved with The Acolyte, then Tenabrous or Plagueis will be involved. Both men were fans of the Expanded Universe.

    • @tardarsauce3355
      @tardarsauce3355 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@scottboa2738 if Filoni is such a fan of the EU, he wouldn’t be contradicting it left right and center with TCW, and making Leland Chee rip his hair out. The man is overrated

    • @scottboa2738
      @scottboa2738 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tardarsauce3355 Dave Filoni said in an interview that he was a fan of the Star Wars EU. Look at how many EU storylines that are now Canon because of Filoni. How many of the Legendary Sith Lords are now Canon? They are Canon because of Filoni.

    • @tardarsauce3355
      @tardarsauce3355 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@scottboa2738 you mean like Darth Bane? They couldn’t even get his armor and appearance right! Anyone who has read the Bane trilogy knows what the guy is supposed to look like. Just because he says he is an EU fan doesn’t mean he actually is one. Even before the Disney acquisition and the concepts of canon and Legends became a thing, TCW was retconning and changing all the EU context it could: Anakin was never supposed to have a padawan (he’s not mentally stable enough), Asajj and Maul’s species and origins were changed, Grievous became a complete joke; they even contradict the movies by having Anakin and Dooku fight each other every second Tuesday.
      Maybe the stories of TCW are decent, and that’s why people like to defend it, but that doesn’t change the fact that Filoni has been changing and contradicting the EU even before Disney bought Star Wars

  • @alittlewasted3869
    @alittlewasted3869 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I too like the idea he is not a Sith but a fallen Jedi/padawan or something else. Seems that the only people that would know about Sith at this time would be Jedi, Sith , or Witches. A bit camp to burn the Witches thought. I feel like the idea we would know who all the Sith are in Cannon is weird. Not to mention all the force users that are out there in a whole galaxy.
    It is fun to speculate but I often have to remind myself to let the storyteller tell their story.

    • @Byronic19134
      @Byronic19134 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He recited half the Sith code in the chem shop.

  • @JasonCGuitarOfficial
    @JasonCGuitarOfficial หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Well this aged like fine wine didnt it .....LMAOO

  • @jacklongley5932
    @jacklongley5932 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That Theory was what I always kinda assumed. I thought that he himself was an acolyte who either needed to kill Jedi without a weapon to become a full time apprentice ( manipulating Maye- is a way of killing without a weapon) or he had already been cast aside.

  • @ritauchiha15
    @ritauchiha15 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    my theory is that quimir is Imri Cantaros who was the pupil of Venestra because in the final episode when Vanestra senses Quimir she says ¨ youre alive¨ this makes sense

  • @amb-yz9ee
    @amb-yz9ee หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Plagueis pops up because he senses all the madness.

  • @JosephKleingebbinck
    @JosephKleingebbinck 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    How have I never heard this

    • @TheStupendousWave
      @TheStupendousWave  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      It’s not a story the Jedi would tell you….

    • @Aurleis
      @Aurleis 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      With Venamis being trained even in secret from Plagueis, it's not a story the Sith would tell you either 😝

    • @carsonbode6640
      @carsonbode6640 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Pretty much everything about Venamis (and Tenebrous) comes from James Luceno's 2012 "Darth Plagueis" novel, which is now Legends material and not part of the current canon.

    • @cloudmaster182
      @cloudmaster182 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gotta read legends. Ice been knowing how this story would go down since the first trailer. Obviously some kinks were added, but even those seem heavily informed by Legends content. We'll see how these last 2 episodes play out

  • @Jaimethepanda
    @Jaimethepanda 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    “Artificial high ground”

  • @DarthRevanDarthMalak
    @DarthRevanDarthMalak หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Would love to see Tenebrous and Plageuis.
    One thing I wish was different in the Acolyte is they haven’t showed many aliens that look sufficiently different than a human (Bith, Rodian, Ithorian, Muun, etc); most of the Jedi are all humans (except the Green skinned one and Jecki; but they really just have makeup and there’s no puppet / mask). Similarly how in the Kenobi show they made the Grand Inquistor just have white makeup instead of making him look like the guys on Utapau in episode 3. Using actual masks / prosthetics

  • @danieltyson2865
    @danieltyson2865 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Acolyte is a worthy Pre-Galactic Civil War story.Very interesting hypothesis though and commendable.

  • @sylar747
    @sylar747 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sadly, you're assuming the writers actually know the lore to for this to be a possibility. They're a bunch of hacks who were told to actually not watch the old movies or get familiar with the lore.

  • @Trick-Framed
    @Trick-Framed 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I agree with the title however I do not agree with the subject matter in the video nor do I believe he was trained by Tenebrous. They said there would be no larger characters in The Acolyte. Mundi is the most we are getting so I am going to have to figure he either started down the Darkside alone and bumped into Sith artifacts and training material (Hence the cortosis) or was trained as a Jedi for a time and then left to figure his own way which included finding a Sith of some sort and training with them. I know the purple whip carrying woman has something to do with it, maybe she turned and taught him and then somehow came back to the light and ditched him. It would make so much sense that she was a Sith Acolyte or assassin, infiltrating the Jedi ranks to see what they have and what's going on.

  • @mehren5379
    @mehren5379 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I mean Vanamis kinda sounds like venom as in posion and he made the posion for Mae

  • @chuckrothans7535
    @chuckrothans7535 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wish that this theory would be true but honestly I highly doubt that the people who are in charge of the acolyte are going to incorporate this. After all everyone who was recruited to make the acolyte ( including the writers, producers, directors, and even the cast ) haven't ever seen any of the original 6 star wars movies, or any of the shows, or even read any of the books or graphic novels, so it's wishful thinking.

  • @chicagorillaz1741
    @chicagorillaz1741 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Qimir is Venamis!!! i just watched the finale

  • @shkotayd9749
    @shkotayd9749 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I say he is a Fallen Jedi who was either partly trained by a false master, or found a Sith holocron after he fell and learned how to bleed his crystal. He has some very powerful skills and aspects of the dark side, but he is notably completely missing others, such as Sith lightning (Plagueis taught this to Sidious some years in), creating fear in others via the force and more, while being able to sense thoughts, and more like force glide to meet the jedi. 16 years with an apprentice, and all he could muster in her was a lot of skill with a knife and a kind of assassins skill in the force. He could not pass on the right skills because he did not have many of them himself, even as he had MUCH more power.
    He is like an incomplete puzzle with several of the needed pieces, but clearly missing others. This is why he dances around the proper terms and titles. He doesnt have much, or any knowledge of several aspects of Sith life.

  • @alexzanderking1556
    @alexzanderking1556 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    interesting theory but disney lack crsativity

  • @DJ_Joe_DC
    @DJ_Joe_DC 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Qimir is the acolyte!

  • @thatoneskatekid
    @thatoneskatekid 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for FINALLY saying this since people couldn’t put these pieces together on their own

  • @jamesconway8173
    @jamesconway8173 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’m just happy that he Is skill not only in lightsaber but also manipulate in such a way that you haven’t seen since add ting so from knight old republic after all, he says there’s a way of drugging them gassing them lust impatient and all that if he can just combine all that with much more, I believe you can be more

  • @EmperorCaligula_EC
    @EmperorCaligula_EC 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It may be so. But then, I fear the show's developers did not think that far. Remember how many theories we had about Snoke.

  • @zackfolkestad8746
    @zackfolkestad8746 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good for you for trying to make Acolyte a semi-cohesive, good addition to Star Wars lore!

  • @aarons.8161
    @aarons.8161 หลายเดือนก่อน

    While this may be an good theory, I do question one thing. Supposedly Plagues is/was the Sith master to Palpatine, right? Yet The Acolyte series takes place 100 years before Episode 1 (about 110 years before Ep 2). So, how young would Plagues be then if he was in The Acolytes time? For that mater, what about the age of Venomous? What is the lifespan of Muuns and Biths?
    Given that, I doubt Qimir is either of them, given that well... he's human, so would have likely died of old age (if not by some other means) before Palpatine is born.
    Also, I find it a bit odd how so many have seemingly jumped onto what is effectively still a fan theory, that Qimir even is a Sith of any kind. Just cause he said that the Jedi might call him a Sith, doesn't mean that he is claiming to be one. Its just a generalization. As far as we know from the show, he is just a Dark Jedi. Likely fed up with the lies and restrictions of the Jedi order (as shown, the Jedi do cover up and lie about a lot of things, even to those within the Order) and so left to study the force on his own and use it as he sees fit. Which is also something he said, he wanted the freedom to use the force how he wanted.

  • @lucasmeyer6802
    @lucasmeyer6802 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Leslie Headland watching this video: "WRITE THIS DOWN!!! WRITE THIS DOWN!!!!"

  • @jeremybandley96
    @jeremybandley96 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I Love listing to the videos, I have been pointed to so many comic titles that I would had never read. But is seems to me that the ones making the movies have never even looked at any of the thousands of books, comics, etc out there. You would think it would be better to bring to life charters that have searchable back stores to them, rather they make some charter up and going with a funky story line, when there is already SO many that are great they can pull from. Thanks all for listening.

  • @caldos1213
    @caldos1213 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think Qimir was trained by Ro (based on the whip like scar) and became a dark Jedi. Perhaps doing his own research on the dark side. Regardless of how the writers are deviating from what we consider as fans to be cannon or "hard facts", I don't think they'd stray that far as to replace a character like Venomous (spell check, I never read the books lol). But we'll see won't we? 😅

  • @thehalfricanguy
    @thehalfricanguy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If we’re throwing out random theories. What if Qimir is just the Son in human form?

  • @user-ol5ru8pk1z
    @user-ol5ru8pk1z หลายเดือนก่อน

    this held up very well after the finale. Don't think he'll be slapped as venamis, more maybe as Plagueis' first apprentice.

  • @king.khisson3168
    @king.khisson3168 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video is better than the whole acolyte show (they really dropped the ball with that one)

  • @USNJedi23
    @USNJedi23 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like to think of The Stranger as more of a dark Jedi than a Sith. He seems to be basically the Star Wars equivalent of a Libertarian. He wants to be left alone by every organization so he can do what he wants unmolested.

  • @Tom-wm8qs
    @Tom-wm8qs 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome theory 🤩 I’d love to see an ending to the acolyte where the true Sith come in and slap him up

  • @Twillek1019_
    @Twillek1019_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have you ever heard the tragedy of Qimir the “Venamis”? It’s a sith legend. Qimir wore a Cortosis helmet that could short out lightsabers and he also stabbed 4 Jedi, one of them was a padawan who he stabbed 3 times just to piss off one of the Jedi masters.

  • @ryanrichards6693
    @ryanrichards6693 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Literally just read that chapter today while reading Plagueis LOLS

  • @maykolee
    @maykolee 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If someone killed a whole Jedi task force, the Sith would know and they would like to find out who did it

  • @Xsorus
    @Xsorus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tenabrous wouldn’t train qimir though. He did not like humans. His entire plan centered around taking over the body of his apprentice as well in the later years, which is why he trained his second bith apprentice.

  • @damonross8400
    @damonross8400 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He didn't own the title, or he'd be calling himself Darth. He said he has no name, the jedi "might" call him sith because he utilizes the dark side.

  • @redjirachi1
    @redjirachi1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    With this in mind I like to think of Qimir's Sith name as another disease themed name. Darth Prionis

  • @Deathound13350
    @Deathound13350 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is before plagueis. Yoda was alive for 900 years. Plagueis was alive for around like 120. It’s a different with all together

  • @lordgong4980
    @lordgong4980 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    We will find out the truth this week or next
    Hopefully

  • @wintermute1
    @wintermute1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I suspect he may be a lapsed Jedi who briefly trained with a Sith lord and decided to dip out over the Rule of Two nonsense as he wanted to be truly free

  • @Bifrost14
    @Bifrost14 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hardly an enemy, a curiosity or a tool at best.

  • @tavistrosen1155
    @tavistrosen1155 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really hope this is what they are doing. I think it would give me hope that they would fix some of the issues with season 1 and be more focused on this story line going into season 2

  • @smoothoperator3739
    @smoothoperator3739 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree, he feels more like a Dark Jedi than a Sith Lord, I think Qimir is the true acolyte

  • @station7thedoor
    @station7thedoor หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sith do not gain the Darth moniker by killing their master. Darth Vader and Darth Maul are both examples.

  • @CambodiaResounding
    @CambodiaResounding 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A well considered theory.

  • @user-bq8ll9od8n
    @user-bq8ll9od8n 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Okay, so, you can force levitate a starfighter or heavier object, right? So why couldn't any strong jedi/sith levitate themselves essentially creating flight? I always wondered about this. I know it would take a great deal of concentration but if you were strong in the force and practiced it should become subconscious.

  • @cameronhermann9400
    @cameronhermann9400 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good theory. But have too say that I doubt anyone planned this

  • @TheFly212
    @TheFly212 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Qimir is Venamis and Plagueis is stalking him and going to try and capture him just like the novel. Not kill. Plagueis could do that easily. But capture. Which would be tough, even for a Dark Lord of the Sith, as Qimir is very talented and skilled, obviously, dude killed more Jedi at once than 99 percent of Sith Lords in canon. So Plagueis must watch and observe his prey!!!!

  • @gwEmbassy
    @gwEmbassy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If this was the story I think it would be so interesting. But I have doubts about Disney’s willingness to pull that story off

  • @user-qp2jp7zb6l
    @user-qp2jp7zb6l 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm waiting for the full season to drop but from what I've gathered qimir is the acolyte and the girl is caught in between

  • @DaNewWaveLee
    @DaNewWaveLee 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t think no they’ll bring any over to be a bad guy. It will be someone new. I think there is only enough time to really dig into what happened on brendok and clean up the murders.

  • @ChoseeComprende
    @ChoseeComprende 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here is another theory ... one i actually like:
    Qimir is neither a Master, nor the Apprentice ... he is just a Jedi who found some kind of Sith teaching, and started to teach himself ... and Plagueis, or Tenebrous will appear sooner or later to kill him, since he is not part of Rule of Two.
    Wich would explain why he wanted to get an Acolyte ... 2v2 is better than 2v1. ;)

  • @Dj18thstr
    @Dj18thstr 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I feel like Qimir is more of a dark jedi that just wants to be a sith master

  • @nodatastored684
    @nodatastored684 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tenebrous and Venamis were proof clones could have force potential and are not outside of the ftce

  • @scottboa2738
    @scottboa2738 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't think that Qimir is a Sith. In episode 5, he NEVER said that he was; he told Master Sol that "Jedi would call me Sith". I think that Qimir is a member of a dark side faction or cult. Also, I believe that we may see Darth Tenabrous or Plagueis in next week's finale. Sith Lords tend to kill those who say they are Sith and are not.

  • @JackPitmanNica
    @JackPitmanNica 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What do people think about the beat the jedi without a weapon thing? I wonder why Qimir is so insistent on that...

  • @BH-ci1xo
    @BH-ci1xo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If a fully trained Sith apprentice started murdering Jedi, then the order would obviously know the Sith still exist….
    This storyline seems like a waste of time either way unfortunately. Great analysis though!

  • @blackhelm5773
    @blackhelm5773 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This theory is what i was thinking after watching the series. I really hope that they make a longer second season, hopefully with different writers and really dive into proper sith lore.

  • @amonke4u
    @amonke4u 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro I put this theory out on Twitter a few days ago!

  • @TF0145
    @TF0145 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Qimir didn’t even have Sith eyes, Anakin did after the Jedi temple purge, the Mustafar slaughter and the decapitation of his limbs. The Acolyte is piss weak, waste

  • @nilesrodriguez4343
    @nilesrodriguez4343 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He's just like venemis - he's gonna die yo

  • @theboldthebrazen3147
    @theboldthebrazen3147 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A legends-like telling would be preferred, but these are the same individuals who doesn’t know the difference from Anakin or Luke, chooses lightsaber colors for aesthetic, changed their original idea for their “Darth” figure to better show of the actor’s “hot” body, the same people who don’t care to understand what the “Dark Side” is but rather drool over the baddie & have main characters be “seduced” by a murderous wrench…. So probably not going that route

  • @o19g78e
    @o19g78e 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Quimir only said he was what the Jedi called a Sith. He never confirmed that he was. Ventress in legends did claim she was a Sith, and Dooku laughed at that. Legends Aurra Sing was a dark Jedi even as she had killed Jedi. Set Harth considered himself a dark Jedi.

  • @Thaumh
    @Thaumh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not a bad theory. I do not think he is Sith. He's had Sith training, yes, but I'm not sure he views himself as one. He even says to Sol, *"You* would call me Sith," by the default fact of their narrow minded point of view of him being a Dark Side user. All that said, ScreenCrush believes that Qimir may be a Knight of Ren, since Kylo's theme has played a few times when he was on screen.

  • @heavydevy-c5630
    @heavydevy-c5630 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like these. Even though it's just spewing nonsense, it gives a damn good story of what really could've been...

  • @MetalVampire91
    @MetalVampire91 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm still going to hold out on my theory that Qimir is going to be the Dark Jedi that was defeated and have let the Jedi know the Sith Rule of Two. Which Yoda repeats later in The Phantom Menace.

  • @ClarkwBrunson
    @ClarkwBrunson หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another banger even though I’m late

  • @JackPitmanNica
    @JackPitmanNica 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Finally!! I think this is probably accurate. After all, Qimr cant be an actual sith, it has to end with revealing that he wasnt really a sith, and was impersonating one, for some reason... that would keep it legit storyline wise right? The dead jedi are explained because it wasnt a sith who killed them, only "an impersonator" which would make Ki-Adi-Mundi not a lier

  • @Endrgamr262
    @Endrgamr262 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My personal theory is that qimir is a banished sith apprentice after he attempt to overthrow tenebrus

    • @CloudedinSanity1
      @CloudedinSanity1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you were trying to keep the SIth a secret, would you banish you apprentice and risk him exposing you exist, or would you kill him? The Sith are by no means morale people.

  • @Haseo55
    @Haseo55 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I personally don't know were are they headed with this.
    The impretion I have using legends as reference is that Qimir is not a sith of the rule of 2.
    He was a jedi padawan that found something he shouldn't. We knowcthe jedi archives have information on the sith.
    He may have been enamored by them and when he was foubd out he was cast out.
    The reason hecwan'ts an apprentice is to continue the rule of 2 as he like all belive the sith are gone unaware they are biding their time.
    My ideal finally would be an almost death Qimir who is abandoned belived yo be dead is killed byvthe current sith master for nearly ruong their plan.
    Yet I know this won't happen and is more likly someone in the show is or becomes Plagueis.

  • @923crono
    @923crono 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lucasfilm was probably contractility obligated to shove out a live action show as soon as possible, so they used their CW level writers to create the acolyte

  • @aodhhanswtor7252
    @aodhhanswtor7252 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We learned in the Bane novels false Sith/Dark Side or even fallen Jedi began to train in the Dark Side. Bane would very quickly dispose of them before they made themselves known to the Jedi. It's likely, many more false Sith would come about during the rule of two.
    I don't believe Headland and the current writers took any time to really dig into this to create a good story. More likely is the fact she's just trying to make Jedi look bad from an outsiders point of view. This is something she could have done easily, as it was this period where the Senate was using Jedi against those who would oppose them on their home planet. Creating distrust between the people and Jedi. She didn't. She either doesn't care for current lore, or was just too lazy and incompetent to create a good story using these facts.

  • @timnebilton9209
    @timnebilton9209 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I appreciate this theory. Sadly, I think it's being held hostage for a season 2

  • @orionlynch7592
    @orionlynch7592 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    With respect to everyone who dislikes it, I actually like the new show.
    I’ve been a fan of Dune for decades so I’m predisposed to an entire universe carried on by someone other than the original creator. There’s been a divide in the Dune fandom for many years over the same thing but personally I just enjoy the new stories since I personalize many stories.

  • @roycehuepers4325
    @roycehuepers4325 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sure it makes sense... and im sure if Filoni was more involved in the project, something like this would have happened. Hes very good at bringing legends back into canon.... but they don't want a good story, just a message about how "from my point of view the jedi are evil"

  • @Chronic_Gainz
    @Chronic_Gainz หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really don’t think Qimir is a sith. He never calls himself one.
    He believes in freedom and using the force for what he wants.
    I think he might be a progenitor to the Knight of Ren.
    Rey is getting a solo film in the next few years so maybe they could work that in?
    Like not all the Knights of Ren were killed by Kylo and they’re causing a problem while Rey is trying to rebuild the Jedi Order.
    🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️
    Edit: or the acolyte sets up a new cult that opposes structure in way of the force… there are multiple force user groups in the galaxy far far away.
    I just don’t think he’s a sith but he wants an apprentice… he wants a group of people like him.

  • @dreadrath
    @dreadrath 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If Qimir ever took the Darth title, it'd probably be Darth Seducious.

  • @venkelos6996
    @venkelos6996 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So, at the risk of sounding dumb, I often have this question about Darth Maul, even, and it could equally apply here; why do our Ro2 Sith train their Operatives in focusing on lightsaber combat, specifically? Palpatine totally intended to use Maul as his tool; send him out to deal with issues he couldn't, and risk exposure, but even for Sidious, who might have been approaching a time when sone of that secrecy wasn't mandatory, he still wasn't necessarily just hoping to scream "the Sith are back!", so why didn't he push Maul to learn practically any other weapon? Maybe killing people with the Dark Side won't always attract Jedi, but lightsabers do make rather unique wounds, and whether you cut someone in half, decapitate them, or simply hack off some limbs, before running them through, it will be clear a lightsaber was used,and lightsabers are used by precious few, outside the Jedi, and their ancient foes. A slugthrower gun, with cortosis rounds, and a vibro-weapon, could do much if the same work, and while it still might look like means tailored to kill Jedi, they do know that they have enemies, even in the modern day. Explosives, and other less identifying means can also work. I get that it's important for us, the audience watching, to see lightsaber duels, for the fate of the galaxy, but inverse, it seems odd both Maul and Teeth are so well-trained to use the one weapon that, while I get it is efficient against the Jedi, with their identical weapons, also so advertise who had to be using it.

    • @KillerChickn
      @KillerChickn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When Plageuis and Palpatine were still a thing, they both planned the entire Sith plot that takes place in the prequels, the Clone army, Separatists, rising thru political ranks to become Emperor, etc. To that end, Jedi destruction and final revelation of Sith rule of the galaxy. This means Sidious, Maul, Dooku, etc were at the point where the Sith plans were reaching their peak and there wasn't a need to hide anymore.

  • @BattleF08
    @BattleF08 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it possible he was Venamis' secret apprentice instead or something? Changing his race would be quiiiite the retcon. Honestly that feels even worse than being a fully separate lineage.

  • @nerdwatch1017
    @nerdwatch1017 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I heard they canceled the acolyte I feel it didn’t need be. Just bring in someone new that truly knows Star Wars and won’t twist things in the wrong direction. He’ll let George come in and redirect things the true way