Excellent video. I have read about the above methods but it was very helpful to watch someone go through them on a video. Just bought two my first two dual lands for my collection and it was great to examine them after watching this video.
Thank you for this! I sold my Tropical Island on ebay and the buyer is now claiming it's a fake. Thanks to this video, and high quality pictures, I can prove it's genuine, assuming the buyer isn't just looking to scam.
Your video helped a lot. I recently purchased a Scrubland and when I investigated it under my loupe I was very shocked to see that the rosette pattern within the land-colored border had rosettes with dark circles in the middle; when i compared this to my Savannah, Plateau, and Tundra I was not seeing rosettes that had black dots in the center of them. I began to panic. Everything else on the card looked legit. Well it just so happens you were good enough to show the rosette pattern on your graded Scrubland and lo and behold they are the same! It passes all tests in this video so I am now convinced. But how interesting? You would think all lands from Revised would have the same border and therefore the same rosette pattern but this is not the case! Thanks for taking the time out to help us sniff out the fakes.
Good info. Can't imagine a seller being thrilled with the idea of letting someone perform the "bend test" on their thousand dollar Beta card, however. :)
When you do the light test you can tell if it's blue core - because the light that shines through will be predominantly blue. I have a bunch of Revised Duals and was unsure because the backs are quite dark compared to Modern cards - but they passed the Line, Mana Symbol, and Light tests using a jewelers loupe, so I feel much better now.
When it comes to card feel, what's your opinion? I've bought many cards. My brother bought 4 dual lands and I dont have a jewelers loop, but everything seems good about the looks. Light test is good. The feel is different. I compared my scrubland to the lands he bought and the main difference was his lands felt more rough. Harder to slide between my fingers. I ended up concluding they were real after taking out some random revised commons and saw some had a similar feel. I can only assume that its the print runs/manufacturers. Do you have duals that have a thicker/rougher feel compared to other duals?
For sure! MTG cards have a pretty solid card stock and are quite sturdy, especially compared to proxies. I already had a revised Savannah that I used as reference for my Underground Sea, so that was super helpful. The proxy I have isn’t flimsy necessarily, but it feels thinner and not as sturdy as the real deal. Not tryna put down the creator of the proxy cause it looks really good tho. Overall, how do your dual lands feel in your hand? Also, if there is an LGS that you go to, it could be worthwhile to maybe have them take a look!
what about newer borders? is there ever a time when you can see dots or pixels in the border at certain angles? or could that be the rosette under the border?
You may be able to see some bleeding from the rosette pattern but the black line should be completely solid. You can also check the back of the card on all of the black text. That should have no rosette pattern on it at all. Hope this helped!
@@ProfessorPicklezMTG How are the borders of modern cards put on? I was looking at a card with my microscope and saw lines of pixels in the border so I immediately thought it was fake. Everything else seems to pass
Just got a wheel from one of the famous online guys and was questioning slightly greyer than black back edges... i only have beta to compare to, but light goes through and feels similar so i think its okay
I just purchased a Tundra and it passes all sorts of test you just mentioned (color on the back, Black line is clear and has no floral pattern, light test) but the circle around the plains symbol (which is on the white part) is hard to distinguish, though you can see it with a zoomed in camera (I have no loop, sorry). Is this normal with the tundra, since the mana symbols are on the white part rather than the Red part with the plateau?
Congrats on the purchase! What you are describing is due to the mana symbol being printed on the white/beige colored line. If it passes all the other tests and doesn't feel super weird you almost certainly have a real card. You should go buy a loupe, they are only around $5! :D
@@ProfessorPicklezMTG I intend to. Thank you for the response! It's my first dual and I bought it for my most tuned commander deck. As a sort of cherry on top 😎
A fake one would have a lot of the same signs as the English version. See if you can find some pictures of rosette patterns on confirmed real cards to compare yours to. Thanks for commenting!
Real magic cards have 4 red dots along the shading ridge of the green dot on the back of the card. The red dots form an L. You can see it with the loupe. I’ve yet to see a fake card pass that test.
I got a tropical island from a buddy my other buddy said it was fake passes all the test it passed bend light and feel test but didn't have solid border i got enough balls to actually rip it in half 🤞had a black core tank god.. but im minus 1 friend now
The solid black border isn’t actually true, I’ve looked at a lot of real cards that the rosette pattern is under it and even incorporated into the border. I wouldn’t go by that specific detail
While I agree with you that you shouldn't just look at one detail (which is exactly why I show and recommend using many others when authenticating), old reserved list MTG cards will. have the solid black border. While I have seen some that seem more blended into the rosette pattern, (which is what I assume you are talking about) if it is a rosette black line you definitely have a fake card.
More interesting video: How to Make Fake Dual Lands Look Close Enough to Real Dual Lands to Abate Any Ultranerds Who Might Actually Care If You're Proxying Or Not in a Casual Commander Game. Though maybe not, I suppose a video saying "use double sleeves, smile and save $750" wouldn't be long enough for ads
So magic has never been consistent your color difference isn’t a good one. I can have 4 of the same card from the different sets and they are all different shades.
Why do idiots still promote the, "rip test?" It was created as a joke not a real test. You use a loupe and look at the sides, there is always some glue exposed and you check its color.
‘Real’ card: ridiculously expensive piece of cardboard printed by wotc. ‘Fake’ card: somewhat rationally priced piece of cardboard not printed by wotc. End of story.
You can be for or against the Reserve List but fake cards hurt the Magic community as a whole. It's not a fun experience to buy a card only to find out when you go to sell it that it is worth nothing.
Totally agree. Just make sure all your fake cards have proxy written on it or a large X on the back with permanent marker. What the community does not want is people selling them at the price of real cards and scamming players who don't know what to look for.
@@ProfessorPicklezMTG yeah instead of tearing dem up yuh cud sign dem and den give Dem away fi yuh subscribas, kids inna africa Wud fuckin luv dem cards and haff plenty fun n Nuh care if di cards legit or countafit yuh dig? Tink bout it man, I'd legit pay di shipping fi si di cards still be playable, wi used fi write wit permanent marker pon numbered playing cards just suh wi cud play magic even when di schools banned it, real or Nuh real cna still put it inna deck n haff fun, and signing di front Wud devalue it authentic or Nuh suh nuhbaddi cud get ripped off if sumone went fi sell dem anyway mon
plot twist: ripping up the scrublands reveals a blue core; it was a real
There are actually some blue core fakes, but that would have been quite the turn of events! :D
if you use a fiber microscope(60x magnification) you can see the blue layer on the edge without having to tear it.
really helpful! buying my first revised duals tomorrow :)
Glad to hear you found the video useful. Congrats on getting into the Revised Dual game!
This was amazing. i bought 3 dual lands and now i can see if they are fake before i send the money!!! Thank you!
Excellent video. I have read about the above methods but it was very helpful to watch someone go through them on a video. Just bought two my first two dual lands for my collection and it was great to examine them after watching this video.
Thank you for this! I sold my Tropical Island on ebay and the buyer is now claiming it's a fake. Thanks to this video, and high quality pictures, I can prove it's genuine, assuming the buyer isn't just looking to scam.
Your video helped a lot. I recently purchased a Scrubland and when I investigated it under my loupe I was very shocked to see that the rosette pattern within the land-colored border had rosettes with dark circles in the middle; when i compared this to my Savannah, Plateau, and Tundra I was not seeing rosettes that had black dots in the center of them. I began to panic. Everything else on the card looked legit. Well it just so happens you were good enough to show the rosette pattern on your graded Scrubland and lo and behold they are the same! It passes all tests in this video so I am now convinced. But how interesting? You would think all lands from Revised would have the same border and therefore the same rosette pattern but this is not the case! Thanks for taking the time out to help us sniff out the fakes.
Good info. Can't imagine a seller being thrilled with the idea of letting someone perform the "bend test" on their thousand dollar Beta card, however. :)
I just bought a couple revised dual lands and this will help me out a lot when I receive them. Thank you!!
Glad to hear it! Welcome to the wonderful world of Revised Duals!
Haha I'm in the same boat, kinda nervous but this vid will help a lot!
When you do the light test you can tell if it's blue core - because the light that shines through will be predominantly blue. I have a bunch of Revised Duals and was unsure because the backs are quite dark compared to Modern cards - but they passed the Line, Mana Symbol, and Light tests using a jewelers loupe, so I feel much better now.
Super interesting!!!! I didn't know any of those
Glad you enjoyed the video and learned something. Thank you for your support!
You don't check the green dot?
When it comes to card feel, what's your opinion?
I've bought many cards. My brother bought 4 dual lands and I dont have a jewelers loop, but everything seems good about the looks. Light test is good.
The feel is different.
I compared my scrubland to the lands he bought and the main difference was his lands felt more rough. Harder to slide between my fingers.
I ended up concluding they were real after taking out some random revised commons and saw some had a similar feel.
I can only assume that its the print runs/manufacturers. Do you have duals that have a thicker/rougher feel compared to other duals?
Without seeing it in person it is very hard for me to make an accurate assessment. I would highly recommend you buy a loupe, they are very cheap!
@@ProfessorPicklezMTG sorry. I know that. I mostly wanted to get your input on feel/thickness differences on revised cards.
Buying cards for couple of hundreds of dollars and no loupe... I also recommend black light to detect hidden ink. Get a loupe!!!
Got a revised Underground Sea recently and I thankfully had a proxy and other revised cards to compare it against. *PHEW*
Can you help me? I just bought some and many more lands, kinda nervous.
For sure! MTG cards have a pretty solid card stock and are quite sturdy, especially compared to proxies. I already had a revised Savannah that I used as reference for my Underground Sea, so that was super helpful. The proxy I have isn’t flimsy necessarily, but it feels thinner and not as sturdy as the real deal. Not tryna put down the creator of the proxy cause it looks really good tho. Overall, how do your dual lands feel in your hand? Also, if there is an LGS that you go to, it could be worthwhile to maybe have them take a look!
Thanks for the video. What magnification is your loop?
what about newer borders? is there ever a time when you can see dots or pixels in the border at certain angles? or could that be the rosette under the border?
You may be able to see some bleeding from the rosette pattern but the black line should be completely solid. You can also check the back of the card on all of the black text. That should have no rosette pattern on it at all. Hope this helped!
@@ProfessorPicklezMTG How are the borders of modern cards put on? I was looking at a card with my microscope and saw lines of pixels in the border so I immediately thought it was fake. Everything else seems to pass
Just got a wheel from one of the famous online guys and was questioning slightly greyer than black back edges... i only have beta to compare to, but light goes through and feels similar so i think its okay
I just purchased a Tundra and it passes all sorts of test you just mentioned (color on the back, Black line is clear and has no floral pattern, light test) but the circle around the plains symbol (which is on the white part) is hard to distinguish, though you can see it with a zoomed in camera (I have no loop, sorry). Is this normal with the tundra, since the mana symbols are on the white part rather than the Red part with the plateau?
Congrats on the purchase! What you are describing is due to the mana symbol being printed on the white/beige colored line. If it passes all the other tests and doesn't feel super weird you almost certainly have a real card.
You should go buy a loupe, they are only around $5! :D
@@ProfessorPicklezMTG I intend to. Thank you for the response! It's my first dual and I bought it for my most tuned commander deck. As a sort of cherry on top 😎
Thank you for this!
thanks for the vid i was mad scared i got a fake
My pleasure! Glad you found the video helpful!
I just bought a fwb dual land in Italian, what signs should I look for
A fake one would have a lot of the same signs as the English version. See if you can find some pictures of rosette patterns on confirmed real cards to compare yours to. Thanks for commenting!
Well done thanks!!
Real magic cards have 4 red dots along the shading ridge of the green dot on the back of the card. The red dots form an L. You can see it with the loupe. I’ve yet to see a fake card pass that test.
I got a tropical island from a buddy my other buddy said it was fake passes all the test it passed bend light and feel test but didn't have solid border i got enough balls to actually rip it in half 🤞had a black core tank god.. but im minus 1 friend now
What a gamble! Haha, glad it worked out for you and wasn't a real card.
@@ProfessorPicklezMTG He probably got ripped off on the card.
Nice video!
The solid black border isn’t actually true, I’ve looked at a lot of real cards that the rosette pattern is under it and even incorporated into the border. I wouldn’t go by that specific detail
While I agree with you that you shouldn't just look at one detail (which is exactly why I show and recommend using many others when authenticating), old reserved list MTG cards will. have the solid black border. While I have seen some that seem more blended into the rosette pattern, (which is what I assume you are talking about) if it is a rosette black line you definitely have a fake card.
@@ProfessorPicklezMTG ok. Didn’t realize you made magic cards lol
I just proxy all my dual lands. Ask someone if there ok with that. If not. I take them out and swap them with fetch lands.
Your proxy must be clearly identifiable as a proxy when looking at the card. Never, ever use indistinguishable proxies.
Scrubland did look old on fake
More interesting video: How to Make Fake Dual Lands Look Close Enough to Real Dual Lands to Abate Any Ultranerds Who Might Actually Care If You're Proxying Or Not in a Casual Commander Game. Though maybe not, I suppose a video saying "use double sleeves, smile and save $750" wouldn't be long enough for ads
So magic has never been consistent your color difference isn’t a good one. I can have 4 of the same card from the different sets and they are all different shades.
For sure, that is why it is VERY important to do more than one test. Hence the reason I show multiple different ways :)
Why do idiots still promote the, "rip test?" It was created as a joke not a real test.
You use a loupe and look at the sides, there is always some glue exposed and you check its color.
‘Real’ card: ridiculously expensive piece of cardboard printed by wotc.
‘Fake’ card: somewhat rationally priced piece of cardboard not printed by wotc.
End of story.
You can be for or against the Reserve List but fake cards hurt the Magic community as a whole. It's not a fun experience to buy a card only to find out when you go to sell it that it is worth nothing.
Totally agree. Just make sure all your fake cards have proxy written on it or a large X on the back with permanent marker. What the community does not want is people selling them at the price of real cards and scamming players who don't know what to look for.
@@ProfessorPicklezMTG yeah instead of tearing dem up yuh cud sign dem and den give Dem away fi yuh subscribas, kids inna africa Wud fuckin luv dem cards and haff plenty fun n Nuh care if di cards legit or countafit yuh dig? Tink bout it man, I'd legit pay di shipping fi si di cards still be playable, wi used fi write wit permanent marker pon numbered playing cards just suh wi cud play magic even when di schools banned it, real or Nuh real cna still put it inna deck n haff fun, and signing di front Wud devalue it authentic or Nuh suh nuhbaddi cud get ripped off if sumone went fi sell dem anyway mon
fake ones are sold by wizards themself by now so who cares?