I visited their shop having all my fluids changed on my bike. Very cool workplace atmosphere. Bunch of cool fella’s. Justin was kind enough to let me hang out in his office the time they worked on my bike. I was willing to hang outside. Watched Chris do his burnout from Justin’s office and was thoroughly impressed 😎 And briefly spoke with Vinny. Only downside was they finished working on my bike before I could meet the man himself, Blockhead. Definitely worth the hour ride out to have em work on my bike. They do outstanding work.
I feel more intelligent after listening to Chris' no holds barred mechanical specifications download - more of this please! Details like those about the conrod were fascinating to an ex engineer like me
Awesome build and congrats on building a motor for YOU! Killer low key exhaust on that bike. No overly large overcompensating annoying pipes. Looks great, simple & clean!
I have this kit with heads yet to be installed, can’t wait to see what happens when you add +2 heads another cam and bigger injectors. Nice build , Chris this was educational.
Congrats Chris! Honestly, I thought you were going to make more torque with the smaller TB. I built a stage four 107" stroker for my 2002 Electra Glide, started with a Mikuni 42, bought a new intake and mikuni 45, only to go back to the 42 and smaller TB because I made more torque with my 590 T man cam, of course I lost some top end but it hits so much harder with the 42.
You guys live the dream!!! Some of us will never and can never have the bikes you build. Its a pleasure watching your builds. You guys continue living it up for us who cant lol
i always kinda think these 2 cylinder engines can't have much to them but every time i see one disassembled i'm kinda blown away by all the parts that are in there
Just put together 2 fuel moto 128ci kits, one in my road glide and the other in my low rider s. Can’t be happier, the kits use fuel moto branded s&s cylinders and cp x forged pistons
Stoked for you Chris! Xmas in July and S&S Santa says you've been good this year. 🙂 Thanks for doing the comparison using stock heads etc so we can all see what we would get with what we have as a bolt in project. Not everyone does headwork. Healthy numbers. But how does it ride. 😁
I'm running A 132" kit on my '23 Breakout with a 540C cam and LOVIN' it. Not sure what I'd do to make it better really... the bike is already out to kill you if you're not paying attention from the cold start...👍
@tommym.1181 I got to 142HP, 145 torque with a ragged edge tune. Has to be 93 octane minimum to get there. 64MM throttle body, 6.3 injectors. Should be 130s with conservative tune...
8:20 Well, there's another huge difference between gear and chain driven cams, the whole shape is mirrored since they rotate in the opposite directions. Gear driven cams rotate in the opposite way than the flywheel.
Chris, I showed you my 2021 Road Glide Standard. After what you did to my 2020 Fat Boy...it's so hard to watch this video and not start dream'n again. I road the Glide "SilverBack" from here to Milwaukee, then the Dragon, over to Robert Simmons. I want what you got man. But this time with T-Max tune. I will wait on the Grudge Box, chain, fly wheel, and Barnet/Trask until after I do the MSH Comp of power, and radials front/back. I miss you guys. "SQUID" ET1(SS/SW/MTS) US Navy, Ret.
I'm happy for Chris I always see him working on your bikes and other people's bike but never his own so it's about time Chris got some toys 🧸 🔫 it's Christmas everyday at blockhead even more for Chris with his new toys 😊
That white Saddleman sets the bike off. Still dont like the bags but its w/e. I dont think youre going to notice much of a difference after 150 tbh. Larger injectors mixed with a different exhaust might get you a bit more hp but honestly, its at 133 and 151 with stock heads and injectors pretty much. The bagger can move out of its own way in a hurry. I think you want to keep it as a DD and not a track bike.
I am very interested in the 129 S&S kit for my M8. I was wanting to use the SE 64mm intake. I would love to see this updated with maybe the 6.2 injectors.
Averaging 218 miles between fill-ups on a six gallon tank thats 36 mpg but thats also not accounting for the gallon or 3/4 gallon of gas thats still in the tank upon fill up so lets say roughly 40mpg
Sick build Chris - I too have a 107 and looking to do a big bore kit. Would HDs 4 5/8 fly wheel enable the 131 to be put in the 107? Similar to what you just did.... Looking forward to see the build with higher injectors
As a Scotsman, it still makes me really happy to see block has a Scottish flag flying proudly in his shop, if I lived in America and had stupid money to spend, I know where I'd be taking my sportster 😂
I put my twin cam dyna 103 on a Dyno HP shootout and they were doing runs in 5or 6th gear. When my 4th gear is direct drive which would show better results and it kinda pissed me off
I'm genuinely wondering about the kind of longevity these big inch kits will see. I ride my M8 a lot and pretty hard usually. A lot of what I've seen seem to indicate the bigger the cylinder bore, the weaker the skirt and thus the less lifespan. I'd love to hear about guys seeing 50k+ on builds bigger than 128. Otherwise, I'll probably just "settle" on a 124" for my 107.
You need two presents under the X-Mas tree one labelled Horse Power and the other labelled Torque. And Yes hang parts off the three maybe the upgrades going on someone's bike hehe.
What’s something like this actually cost, start to finish? And how many days does it take? No body in south eastern South Dakota does this that I know of. So if I bring it down from Small Town South Dakota, what is a approximate number?
Non technical “end user” terminology. I’ll do my best…I’m going to explain why HD use’s what they use more than explaining the difference. Ok so there are a few major reasons for why a manufacturer might use chain instead of gear but here’s one basic example. Chain drive is safer, and cheaper for a manufacturer to use. It allows them greater wear limits and allows variances of up to .012” in manufacturing. It also doesn’t cost as much for them or even you if it were to ever fail. Btw: The .012” I referred to is the service wear limit that HD puts in the manual. .012” is the measure of how “round” or “not round” the end of the pinion shaft is while spinning. Gear drive requires a flywheel that is almost “true”. instead of .012” it’s service wear limit is .004”…basically thats the thickness of a human hair where as .012” is the thickness of 3 human hairs. Literally splittin hairs here, lol. There is no real significant advantage to run one vs the other on a Harley imo it’s a tomatoe tomatoe kinda thing. Hope that answers your question in a way you can understand
I visited their shop having all my fluids changed on my bike. Very cool workplace atmosphere. Bunch of cool fella’s. Justin was kind enough to let me hang out in his office the time they worked on my bike. I was willing to hang outside.
Watched Chris do his burnout from Justin’s office and was thoroughly impressed 😎 And briefly spoke with Vinny.
Only downside was they finished working on my bike before I could meet the man himself, Blockhead.
Definitely worth the hour ride out to have em work on my bike.
They do outstanding work.
I feel more intelligent after listening to Chris' no holds barred mechanical specifications download - more of this please! Details like those about the conrod were fascinating to an ex engineer like me
Chris gets to work on his own
Bike during shop time with all free 132. Win win. Best working environment ever!
You earned it your expertise on Harleys is one reason I like the channel so much. Those are great number.
Never ceases to amaze me how much you can learn on this channel!!!🤘
Awesome build and congrats on building a motor for YOU! Killer low key exhaust on that bike. No overly large overcompensating annoying pipes. Looks great, simple & clean!
I have this kit with heads yet to be installed, can’t wait to see what happens when you add +2 heads another cam and bigger injectors. Nice build , Chris this was educational.
You have to cover the tree in spider webs and halloween decorations!
Awesome! Good for you Chris I’m excited for you my guy. I enjoy seeing people get what they deserve after working so damn hard to get it.
Chris is legit. Puts that thing together out of his head.
Congrats Chris! Honestly, I thought you were going to make more torque with the smaller TB. I built a stage four 107" stroker for my 2002 Electra Glide, started with a Mikuni 42, bought a new intake and mikuni 45, only to go back to the 42 and smaller TB because I made more torque with my 590 T man cam, of course I lost some top end but it hits so much harder with the 42.
The Dyno tree giveth hopes of high numbers 🏍️💪🐎
You guys live the dream!!! Some of us will never and can never have the bikes you build. Its a pleasure watching your builds. You guys continue living it up for us who cant lol
Awesome! Definitely a kit I’ll be looking at doing in the future after seeing these kinds of numbers. Right on Block-Fam! ❤️🍻🤘🏼
Id have him work on my bikes anyday alot of knowledge
This is amazing! This is exactly what I've been researching for myself. 107 to 132 just with a few differences.
Such a good episode. Great to see you appreciated and valued as an employee and friend.
You had me at the end. I was typing”what we don’t get to hear that kitten purr”. Thanks for not disappointing 😂
I can't wait to drop my bike off on the 8th of april to get this kit installed. Going to be great meeting you guys. See you soon!!!
So good watching a master of his trade work. Killa vid
Life is good when you've been given a big bore kit!
That’s Awesome! You totally deserve it Chris. Great video as always
Heck yeah the dino tree is freaking awesome 😎👍
Chris is now Dyno Santa... I love it.
Fun video...nice job Chris. The manifold and TB will be more noticeable when you do your heads. Please come back and give us a real burnout.
i always kinda think these 2 cylinder engines can't have much to them but every time i see one disassembled i'm kinda blown away by all the parts that are in there
The Harbor Freight guy, that's funny!
Just put together 2 fuel moto 128ci kits, one in my road glide and the other in my low rider s. Can’t be happier, the kits use fuel moto branded s&s cylinders and cp x forged pistons
Stoked for you Chris! Xmas in July and S&S Santa says you've been good this year. 🙂 Thanks for doing the comparison using stock heads etc so we can all see what we would get with what we have as a bolt in project. Not everyone does headwork. Healthy numbers. But how does it ride. 😁
I got roped into buying those pliers because of the coin trick too 😂😂
Tree definitely makes the room sharp 🤙🏼 let’s see that build .. injectors and head work
Christmas year round always makes special moments.
I'm running A 132" kit on my '23 Breakout with a 540C cam and LOVIN' it. Not sure what I'd do to make it better really... the bike is already out to kill you if you're not paying attention from the cold start...👍
what are your numbers on the dyno? looking into something similar for my breakout 117
@tommym.1181 I got to 142HP, 145 torque with a ragged edge tune. Has to be 93 octane minimum to get there. 64MM throttle body, 6.3 injectors. Should be 130s with conservative tune...
8:20 Well, there's another huge difference between gear and chain driven cams, the whole shape is mirrored since they rotate in the opposite directions. Gear driven cams rotate in the opposite way than the flywheel.
Chris, I showed you my 2021 Road Glide Standard. After what you did to my 2020 Fat Boy...it's so hard to watch this video and not start dream'n again.
I road the Glide "SilverBack" from here to Milwaukee, then the Dragon, over to Robert Simmons.
I want what you got man. But this time with T-Max tune.
I will wait on the Grudge Box, chain, fly wheel, and Barnet/Trask until after I do the MSH Comp of power, and radials front/back.
I miss you guys.
"SQUID"
ET1(SS/SW/MTS) US Navy, Ret.
I'm happy for Chris I always see him working on your bikes and other people's bike but never his own so it's about time Chris got some toys 🧸 🔫 it's Christmas everyday at blockhead even more for Chris with his new toys 😊
Loving my 95 " s@s on my 99 tc . Cant beat 😊
Also corillo rods. spin at 9000 plus. But sweet A F
That white Saddleman sets the bike off. Still dont like the bags but its w/e.
I dont think youre going to notice much of a difference after 150 tbh. Larger injectors mixed with a different exhaust might get you a bit more hp but honestly, its at 133 and 151 with stock heads and injectors pretty much. The bagger can move out of its own way in a hurry. I think you want to keep it as a DD and not a track bike.
That's beyond belief, fact or fiction? Nice job Chris, that bike is cool as hell and that's a fact.
Seriously it would be fun to see someone port stock heads and see if it's worth it
It’s about time you do/get something for you 🙏 you deserve it you’re too kind that bike “714” is Bitchin thanks for sharing it with us 😎🍾🥃🥃🥃🥃🇺🇸🇺🇸
Guys , I enjoy your educational vids. Great work.
By the way, the tree needs to be there all year, brings good luck.
NICE! So damn jealous of you Chris. But, you earned it. Congrats!🤘
Loving this build, keep it going!
I am very interested in the 129 S&S kit for my M8. I was wanting to use the SE 64mm intake. I would love to see this updated with maybe the 6.2 injectors.
Hope Wilbers hooks it up with some suspension for Chris!! that would be a great vid!!
Sounds fantastic!
I am totally down for a seasonal holiday tree.
Love the Christmas tree
So thats what about 40 foot pounds and damn near 60 hoarses over stock! Damn!❤❤
If it improves moral and makes work fun. I love it!
Hands down to the Fucken Dyno Tree!!
131ci, 132ci, 134ci now the 135ci is here. Whooooooppppppiiiiiii dooooooooooo.
😮 did I miss something? No flyby so we can hear it ? Great post. Entertaining and informative. Thanks.
So much want in this build
Great teaching vid Chris & cool build
Awesome!! What compression did you settle on? Can’t wait to see the outcome once you put some gnarly ported heads on there.
I think you picked up a little higher numbers from the Christmas Tree in the Dyno-Room.
(Nice work on your bike, Chris)
You mentioned a hooligan kit on the sporty!? Is there a video of that?! 🙏🏼 ❤
Would love to hear what MPG he's getting just cruising the highway
Averaging 218 miles between fill-ups on a six gallon tank thats 36 mpg but thats also not accounting for the gallon or 3/4 gallon of gas thats still in the tank upon fill up so lets say roughly 40mpg
Love the tree. I spend a lot of time in an audio room and bought an inflatable palm tree.
Also, what’s better; gear drive or chain drive?
Still have to go a ways to keep up with my stock cruiser.
Awesome numbers similar to Fuelmotos 132 Beast!
Nice tree. Can’t wait to see this bike once it’s done
You and me both!
Sick build Chris - I too have a 107 and looking to do a big bore kit.
Would HDs 4 5/8 fly wheel enable the 131 to be put in the 107? Similar to what you just did....
Looking forward to see the build with higher injectors
I don’t bar hop and hot rod too much mostly long road trips
As a Scotsman, it still makes me really happy to see block has a Scottish flag flying proudly in his shop, if I lived in America and had stupid money to spend, I know where I'd be taking my sportster 😂
I put my twin cam dyna 103 on a Dyno HP shootout and they were doing runs in 5or 6th gear. When my 4th gear is direct drive which would show better results and it kinda pissed me off
Looks like the gear drive cam is out of stock, but they do have the chain drive cam in stock.
Would have thought the S&S would have been the stronger item.
Yea! We want injector content!
Thanks Very informative
Any guess on range of a tank of gas ? 160-200 ?
Nice, 150 on stock heads
Be interested to see stock vs ported heads, for sure
I'm genuinely wondering about the kind of longevity these big inch kits will see. I ride my M8 a lot and pretty hard usually. A lot of what I've seen seem to indicate the bigger the cylinder bore, the weaker the skirt and thus the less lifespan. I'd love to hear about guys seeing 50k+ on builds bigger than 128. Otherwise, I'll probably just "settle" on a 124" for my 107.
You need two presents under the X-Mas tree one labelled Horse Power and the other labelled Torque. And Yes hang parts off the three maybe the upgrades going on someone's bike hehe.
My Christmas tree is still up lmao in July😂
Next year tell Harley to send Chris with you to laguna Seca.
What’s something like this actually cost, start to finish? And how many days does it take? No body in south eastern South Dakota does this that I know of. So if I bring it down from Small Town South Dakota, what is a approximate number?
Very good question! I hope you get an answer soon.
A Touring model / version of the Hayabusa
My neighbors would really hate me at 4 AM
I said yeah. She'd have 2 more trees one of the front and then tour action free Moore either side to a 12. You know decor.
YOO! How about testing the S&S pipes on Goldzilla and throwing THAT into the exhaust shootout?? I wanna see how it stacks up.
No tempkin conversion? Another show says 1 to 3 thou on run out.
It needs drag race light red yellow and green on the bottom lol 😂
I love my 132
714 all day 😂 Santa Ana California
Gear drive cam has to be completely different because it runs backwards (reverse). Lift and duration can be the same... I like the tree...
Hmmmm, damn Chris your throwing a wrench in my Fueling/Zippers dilemma.
SQUID
ET1(SS/SW/MTS) US Navy, Ret.
The numbers are one thing chris but hows it ride ???
Yer do a video on injector sizes & why🙏♥️
Where is the DONT TREAD ON ME banner???
Hey block, can I put the 475 s@s cam in my 131 ? Would it take away from the power? Thanks !
Anyone know why guys are running screaming eagle heads with s&s valves? Does a& a have the best valves ?
Content on injectors would be cool.
What windshield are u running
Can someone explain the difference between the chain drive and a gear drive in non technical terms as an end user?
Non technical “end user” terminology. I’ll do my best…I’m going to explain why HD use’s what they use more than explaining the difference. Ok so there are a few major reasons for why a manufacturer might use chain instead of gear but here’s one basic example. Chain drive is safer, and cheaper for a manufacturer to use. It allows them greater wear limits and allows variances of up to .012” in manufacturing. It also doesn’t cost as much for them or even you if it were to ever fail. Btw: The .012” I referred to is the service wear limit that HD puts in the manual. .012” is the measure of how “round” or “not round” the end of the pinion shaft is while spinning.
Gear drive requires a flywheel that is almost “true”. instead of .012” it’s service wear limit is .004”…basically thats the thickness of a human hair where as .012” is the thickness of 3 human hairs. Literally splittin hairs here, lol. There is no real significant advantage to run one vs the other on a Harley imo it’s a tomatoe tomatoe kinda thing. Hope that answers your question in a way you can understand
@@sickwideglide wow. That was very well explained. Thank you
Great video and nice work. So what tuner are you using?
Why didn't you go for the next size up flywheel, the 4.5/8", then it would of been a 136" engine without case boring
Test ride!.... 😎🤟