I was one of maybe 30 white kids in a high school outside of Cleveland Ohio in the 70's out of about 735 students. The rest were black, mostly, some Latinos and Filipinos, but mostly black. It's not about skin. It's about power. You learn that from being the powerless.
Just a thought, but the Ferguson justice department investigation doesn't just reveal racism but class discrimination. Growing up in a poor south side Chicago neighborhood I can tell you it isn't just black people, it's everyone in a crappy car who gets pulled over and pays the fines. There are numerous economic studies on this. It isn't just neighborhoods that are below the poverty line, but also exists within small college towns like Charleston, IL who use tickets as a source of revenue to fund the town
Im surprised not many ppl clapped on how it is also a black vs black problem. Just because someone is black doesn't mean one isn't capable of racism and we yet have come to notice that blacks murdering other blacks in huge numbers is still a dilemma that needs attention.
Are you that ignorant ? Do you even know what racism is? A black cop vs. a black citizen is not racism it's power-ism. A black criminal vs. a black victim is not racism it's just a shithead committing a crime. Racism is a mindset by one race to feel superior to the other race. Would you call a white guy who assaults another white guy a racist? No you would just call him an asshole.
I've talked about this for years as I'm sure many others have as well and I'm glad the subject is beginning to get attention. There is a real problem with the police force being used as a means to generate revenue by shaking people down. I've often compared this to the story of robin hood, where the sheriff and prince collude to shake the populace down for additional funds. Too many people are having their hard earned money taken from them for petty offenses. While people who actually do harm, assault murder rape are draining the coffers as we invest more into them than we do our youth through education.
Love love love 💕 John Ridley. Thank you 🙏 for your support. I am honest out of love and pride in my people. We have it in us, we just need to stop being apathetic as a race and DO. I have already said too much. I am zipping it at the moment - and hopefully forever.
The question might be asked how are Crime Stats measured? The biggest crimes are seemingly being ignored or the law shifted to deregulate - and we see the results all around the world, daily.
Hill Street Blues looked at the plight of crime victims and the very things Bill touched on .They may not have done it to the extent that American Crime will but a tip of the hat to a really intelligent old show that was groundbreaking in many ways.
Speaking as a Naval Veteran....Bill is unfortunately wrong. Veterans are not entitled to medical care simply based upon service. Most veterans have private insurance just as most americans do. Only veterans with service rated disabilities receive medical care. Lastly, the VA has been an embarrassment in the way in which they treat veterans, which is why there has been shifts within the VA organization. Still a Bill Maher fan though...
Ferguson inspired me to read Matt Taibbi's "The Divide" and Radley Balko's "Rise of the Warrior Cop" in the same month. I am still reeling from the horrifying indictment of systemic oppression across the country and my own blind side. I was delighted to see Matt Taibbi would be on the panel right after release of DOJ's Ferguson report.. So why not let him talk, Bill?!!! He sat silent--someone who really knows something--while two ideologues, one reliably right and one reliable left, went at it.
I gotta admit, I am so shocked that Maher isn't aware about the problems of the VA and how many issues are being dealt with by veterans because of them.
GETTING CARE AT THE HOSPITALS IS NOT AN ISSUE AFTER PROVING THAT YOU QUALIFIED FOR IT. The doctors have been great and I got the care needed after fighting the qualifications gauntlet. THE POLITICIANS AND LAWYERS IS WHAT CAUSE THE PROBLEMS. CREATING WAYS TO MAKE MONEY OFF OF THE INJURIES OF THE VETS.
The argument about the quality of VA healthcare did not point out the real problem. I haven't gone to the VA hospital for 20 years. When I did, there was a long wait and the facility was run-down. But, I felt the doctor and care I got was very good. The problem with the VA is not that it is socialized healthcare. It is that it is underfunded. Congress will force the pentagon to buy tanks it says it doesn't need, but won't properly fund the VA.
"Reverse racism." I'm sorry, don't you mean racism? How does one act like a reverse racist? Isn't it just the same as, oh I don't know, acting like a racist? Racism: The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. There is no such thing as reverse racism, there is just racism. Doesn't matter if you're black, white, Asian, latino, or a fucking purple skinned creature who was born on mars, racism functions the exact same way, and is not limited to a single skin color, black people are just as racist as white people, and so on. To continue to act as though one race can be racist, but another cannot, completely undermines and damages any progress we have made, and continue to make.
You may be on to something, but your taking something out of the equation-- "Power relations", clearly the majority of middle-class and elitists in society are Caucasians and males, who have more of a cohesive identity( with one another), hence even if they are discriminated by other races, systematically and within our institutions it is much easier for them to navigate through the system to end up at the upper threshold of "class" society. So no,racism towards Caucasians doesn't systematically disadvantage them, even if it did, all you have is an extremely small fucking sample( that conveniently) you all jump on as an attempt to make racism towards Caucasians seem like it's an equivalency to the systematic discrimination that visible minorities endure.
There are a couple of guys here spreading lies/misinformation concerning the VA and I would advise anyone to go to a VA hospital/clinic/admin building and receive your VA Card if you haven't and have them assign you a primary doctor. Take some time to drop into the benefits office and ask the counselor what is available for you based upon your service time. If you're working some piss ass job don't sign up for their insurance but be clear first what VA services you have. If you're basically in good shape, no medical problems, you especially need to get this started bc you begin a medical record of yourself from the little to the major and then the VA will trace you medically as you get older. Preventive medicine in pushed greatly in the VA to promote you living a healthy life. We'll all vulnerable to health issues and many may be due to our lifestyle. Make an appointment to see a nutritionist, if you're having problems with drugs, alcohol or any mental/stress issues ask to be seen. None of this has to be military related. Homelessness: Let the VA know you're homeless and depending on where you're located you may be able to be housed and got at the root of what has you homeless particularly if you've been experiencing homelessness for years. Even if you've had criminal issues post military, there's assistance for you. Here where I live, the courts created a special court for vets bc veterans in large numbers are finding themselves on the wrong side of the law. Nobody is going to come looking to help you. So visit a VA facility and get the right info instead of listening to people on the internet with an agenda or airing their grievance and looking to form a group of mad angry bastards spiraling out of control to nowhere.
What is the surprise here? Police have quotas for fines everywhere! Cops don't like doing it, so they try to cram all the monthly quotas into one or two days. In Vancouver - about as multiracial a city as you can get - it's usually the second day of the month for subway fare evasion and the first Wednesday for speeding tickets. Again, it has nothing to do with race. But there is a culture in North America that vies to be so anti-establishment that they pride themselves on being scofflaws... any wonder why cops would target them when trying to fill quotas? It's not racism, it's being lazy!
You're right and you're wrong. It is about race and when cops have those two days to reach there quota, they hit the most vulnerable which is hit the Black people with the racist cops, complying court system and the compromising attorney if any. So it is about race. Ferguson is no surprise, read about the bust for marijuana in Orange County where there is no region with even 5% Black population but arrest are all double digits and in many cases border around 50% or more. But a course people like you think these are legitimate because apparently their criminal
Sophia Mefford Close... No one questions the arrest and/or charges of a poor man. Would you bat an eyelid at a 'trailer trash' white guy being hauled, or a latino guy in a tank top and hair net? Probably not, but if it's against blacks it must be racism... The political-racial divide is artificial; the wealth-class divide is very VERY real and in your face.
Relbl 'm not surprised of your statement "political-racial divide is artificial; the wealth-class divide is very real" this is the delusion most whites grow up with. Nothing is relevant until it happens to whites and believe me most Blacks knew this forever but poor whites continued to be suckered by those they suck up to. The growth of technology and the dismantling of blue collar jobs has effected uneducated whites, so now there's an issue they can relate to. Poor whites still are their own problem bc they rather blame everyone but themselves while voting for and kissing the ass of Blue bloods who fuk them raw. Your comment shows selfish ignorance and that you realize despite ur economic demise at the hands of people like you, ur still keep ur head up their ass and in the sand
Abby Nixon Bit racist of you to assume I'm white isn't it? I'm not, nor American. Is this where you tell me as an objective outside observer that I can't have any idea of what's actually happening there...?
This years BET Awards were an example of taking what’s yours and doing a better job than anything similar out there. They were black excellence and EVERYBODY knows that. Do that with everything else.
FreedomWorks and the Conservative Action Project said that the sequester should be replaced by defunding Obamacare; that is, eliminating: the refundable tax credits that form the basis of the federal health exchanges
It's people like this that piss me off, so against the affordable health care act but have no alternative. Until it's there family member. Senator Cruz!! Who is by the way signing up cuz of his wife
I though that the "original plan" was to have everyone on a version of medicare...but we had to make the insurance companies happy so now there is this mess which is Obama-care. Why can every civilized nation have health care for all citizens and we do not? It really is time to take our nation back before it is too late.
Am I the only one who thinks using the term "people of color" is uncomfortable? So the people who are NOT of color are... colorless? From my understanding using the term black is not offensive if used in a regular, polite context. I'm really curious if people do get offended by this term
Hang on a minute! Didn't I just hear Mr Maher say, "We all love money, we're Americans and there's nothing wrong with that." Then he starts criticising an American government for being... well, American. Using law enforcement to "generate revenue" is the logical result of a society that has no culture except the making money by any means possible. And of course you want to get your revenue from those who have the least possibility of successfully contesting their arrests and fines so the poor and the excluded are an excellent source.
Abby Nixon "He never mentioned making money by any means necessary" And I never said he did. What I said was, and I quote: "Using law enforcement to "generate revenue" is the logical result of a society that has no culture except the making money by any means possible." Seems that *you're* the only "A-Hole" in this discussion.
colourmegone Yes and you're basically calling him out that if making money is American than he legitimizes there actions. In the same since you agree with slavery as a legitimate means of revenue. Making money is guided by law. Are pimps legitimate businessmen?
fined for riding a bicycle the wrong way, you got to be kidding. but then less taxes, but then regressive sales taxes. I think the US Government need to restore the faith in income taxes for all tax brackets. I just hope they remember just out of college kids who have dept.
it's about time the talked about results of crime...Crime is down....abortion is up ..bad word...how about not having a baby you don't really want..can't afford and are tottaly incapable of raising a child...birth control would stop a lot of crime....lets go for quality instead of quantity..if most of the public have decent jobs racism and crime will go down..but poverty and crime are biiiiig business
Are you really still talking about decent Health Care for American citizens..been doing that for years and years...should be a basic tax payers right along with education...cancel the space progrem and educate our young people....next you will be talking about equal pay for women...hasn't happened yet no matter what party was in power
Homicides in Chicago; 1980- 863, 1990-851, 2000-663, 2014-463. So who is irrelevant? You are confusing access to information with increase in data. It is why people think the streets are more dangerous for their kids now than 20 years ago when there are half as many child abductions. You just hear about them unlike 20 years ago.
@ sophia mefford and miley luv- come on over to chicago. i'll drive you over to some spots on the west and south sides. let you out of the car and ask the people in the hood about all the safe zones that are needed to get kids to school and back and about the daily drive by shootings. and crime isn't just shootings. crime is worse than 50 years ago and i lived on the west side in those days during the riots. put up or you know what up.
I was one of maybe 30 white kids in a high school outside of Cleveland Ohio in the 70's out of about 735 students. The rest were black, mostly, some Latinos and Filipinos, but mostly black. It's not about skin. It's about power. You learn that from being the powerless.
That's why we have to stand for every one of us that has no power. And why our power comes from standing together..
Thank you Bill for discussing many subjects!
Just a thought, but the Ferguson justice department investigation doesn't just reveal racism but class discrimination. Growing up in a poor south side Chicago neighborhood I can tell you it isn't just black people, it's everyone in a crappy car who gets pulled over and pays the fines. There are numerous economic studies on this. It isn't just neighborhoods that are below the poverty line, but also exists within small college towns like Charleston, IL who use tickets as a source of revenue to fund the town
Im surprised not many ppl clapped on how it is also a black vs black problem. Just because someone is black doesn't mean one isn't capable of racism and we yet have come to notice that blacks murdering other blacks in huge numbers is still a dilemma that needs attention.
Totally agree. Media just loves the black vs white scenario.
Are you that ignorant ? Do you even know what racism is?
A black cop vs. a black citizen is not racism it's power-ism.
A black criminal vs. a black victim is not racism it's just a shithead committing a crime.
Racism is a mindset by one race to feel superior to the other race.
Would you call a white guy who assaults another white guy a racist?
No you would just call him an asshole.
But there is NO white on white murder. Oh Wait. . . . !!!!!!
Dobby san
Probably because racism is still an issue!
Congratulations you just won the second stupid award. *****
I've talked about this for years as I'm sure many others have as well and I'm glad the subject is beginning to get attention.
There is a real problem with the police force being used as a means to generate revenue by shaking people down.
I've often compared this to the story of robin hood, where the sheriff and prince collude to shake the populace down for additional funds.
Too many people are having their hard earned money taken from them for petty offenses. While people who actually do harm, assault murder rape are draining the coffers as we invest more into them than we do our youth through education.
Just finished the last episode of "American Crime." Amazingly, powerful show.
Love love love 💕 John Ridley.
Thank you 🙏 for your support.
I am honest out of love and pride in my people. We have it in us, we just need to stop being apathetic as a race and DO.
I have already said too much. I am zipping it at the moment - and hopefully forever.
The question might be asked how are Crime Stats measured? The biggest crimes are seemingly being ignored or the law shifted to deregulate - and we see the results all around the world, daily.
That last point was priceless.
Hill Street Blues looked at the plight of crime victims and the very things Bill touched on .They may not have done it to the extent that American Crime will but a tip of the hat to a really intelligent old show that was groundbreaking in many ways.
The VA is the best!!!!
Speaking as a Naval Veteran....Bill is unfortunately wrong. Veterans are not entitled to medical care simply based upon service. Most veterans have private insurance just as most americans do. Only veterans with service rated disabilities receive medical care. Lastly, the VA has been an embarrassment in the way in which they treat veterans, which is why there has been shifts within the VA organization. Still a Bill Maher fan though...
Hey bill,,when are you gona do a documentary on the police,,,l would like to hear your thought on this..
Ferguson inspired me to read Matt Taibbi's "The Divide" and Radley Balko's "Rise of the Warrior Cop" in the same month. I am still reeling from the horrifying indictment of systemic oppression across the country and my own blind side. I was delighted to see Matt Taibbi would be on the panel right after release of DOJ's Ferguson report.. So why not let him talk, Bill?!!! He sat silent--someone who really knows something--while two ideologues, one reliably right and one reliable left, went at it.
There is no reverse racism, just racism
More than just a game for ideologues to play- David Axelrod
People is people is people is people,...they know what it means to be left alone.
Jimi Hendrix said that.
We pay lots of taxes Bill...our taxes just go to support private business that feeds off poverty
All the time they were talking about the TV show all I could think was that this show sounds like The Wire.
I gotta admit, I am so shocked that Maher isn't aware about the problems of the VA and how many issues are being dealt with by veterans because of them.
GETTING CARE AT THE HOSPITALS IS NOT AN ISSUE AFTER PROVING THAT YOU QUALIFIED FOR IT.
The doctors have been great and I got the care needed after fighting the qualifications gauntlet.
THE POLITICIANS AND LAWYERS IS WHAT CAUSE THE PROBLEMS.
CREATING WAYS TO MAKE MONEY OFF OF THE INJURIES OF THE VETS.
The argument about the quality of VA healthcare did not point out the real problem.
I haven't gone to the VA hospital for 20 years. When I did, there was a long wait and the facility was run-down. But, I felt the doctor and care I got was very good.
The problem with the VA is not that it is socialized healthcare. It is that it is underfunded. Congress will force the pentagon to buy tanks it says it doesn't need, but won't properly fund the VA.
This is how and why bureaucracy owns the world whilst failing to protect anything or anyone.
"Reverse racism." I'm sorry, don't you mean racism? How does one act like a reverse racist? Isn't it just the same as, oh I don't know, acting like a racist?
Racism: The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
There is no such thing as reverse racism, there is just racism. Doesn't matter if you're black, white, Asian, latino, or a fucking purple skinned creature who was born on mars, racism functions the exact same way, and is not limited to a single skin color, black people are just as racist as white people, and so on. To continue to act as though one race can be racist, but another cannot, completely undermines and damages any progress we have made, and continue to make.
The "reverse" part refers to a reversal of the prevalent cultural, systematic, and institutionalized racism in the United States.
You may be on to something, but your taking something out of the equation-- "Power relations", clearly the majority of middle-class and elitists in society are Caucasians and males, who have more of a cohesive identity( with one another), hence even if they are discriminated by other races, systematically and within our institutions it is much easier for them to navigate through the system to end up at the upper threshold of "class" society. So no,racism towards Caucasians doesn't systematically disadvantage them, even if it did, all you have is an extremely small fucking sample( that conveniently) you all jump on as an attempt to make racism towards Caucasians seem like it's an equivalency to the systematic discrimination that visible minorities endure.
"Reverse racism" isn't a synonym for "racism". The term represents the absurd notion that the powerful are being oppressed by the powerless.
redirishmanxlt Anybody with ANY power can oppress someone with less, and just about nobody is "powerless."
Forgive me, I don't understand you're point.
There are a couple of guys here spreading lies/misinformation concerning the VA and I would advise anyone to go to a VA hospital/clinic/admin building and receive your VA Card if you haven't and have them assign you a primary doctor. Take some time to drop into the benefits office and ask the counselor what is available for you based upon your service time.
If you're working some piss ass job don't sign up for their insurance but be clear first what VA services you have.
If you're basically in good shape, no medical problems, you especially need to get this started bc you begin a medical record of yourself from the little to the major and then the VA will trace you medically as you get older. Preventive medicine in pushed greatly in the VA to promote you living a healthy life. We'll all vulnerable to health issues and many may be due to our lifestyle. Make an appointment to see a nutritionist, if you're having problems with drugs, alcohol or any mental/stress issues ask to be seen. None of this has to be military related.
Homelessness: Let the VA know you're homeless and depending on where you're located you may be able to be housed and got at the root of what has you homeless particularly if you've been experiencing homelessness for years. Even if you've had criminal issues post military, there's assistance for you. Here where I live, the courts created a special court for vets bc veterans in large numbers are finding themselves on the wrong side of the law.
Nobody is going to come looking to help you. So visit a VA facility and get the right info instead of listening to people on the internet with an agenda or airing their grievance and looking to form a group of mad angry bastards spiraling out of control to nowhere.
There is no such thing as reverse racism there is just racism.
Veterans dying on waiting lists, yeah the VA is a great example of government run healthcare.
What is the surprise here? Police have quotas for fines everywhere! Cops don't like doing it, so they try to cram all the monthly quotas into one or two days. In Vancouver - about as multiracial a city as you can get - it's usually the second day of the month for subway fare evasion and the first Wednesday for speeding tickets. Again, it has nothing to do with race. But there is a culture in North America that vies to be so anti-establishment that they pride themselves on being scofflaws... any wonder why cops would target them when trying to fill quotas? It's not racism, it's being lazy!
You're right and you're wrong. It is about race and when cops have those two days to reach there quota, they hit the most vulnerable which is hit the Black people with the racist cops, complying court system and the compromising attorney if any. So it is about race. Ferguson is no surprise, read about the bust for marijuana in Orange County where there is no region with even 5% Black population but arrest are all double digits and in many cases border around 50% or more. But a course people like you think these are legitimate because apparently their criminal
The issue is no one questions the arrest and/or charges of a black man.
Sophia Mefford Close... No one questions the arrest and/or charges of a poor man. Would you bat an eyelid at a 'trailer trash' white guy being hauled, or a latino guy in a tank top and hair net? Probably not, but if it's against blacks it must be racism... The political-racial divide is artificial; the wealth-class divide is very VERY real and in your face.
Relbl
'm not surprised of your statement "political-racial divide is artificial; the wealth-class divide is very real" this is the delusion most whites grow up with. Nothing is relevant until it happens to whites and believe me most Blacks knew this forever but poor whites continued to be suckered by those they suck up to. The growth of technology and the dismantling of blue collar jobs has effected uneducated whites, so now there's an issue they can relate to. Poor whites still are their own problem bc they rather blame everyone but themselves while voting for and kissing the ass of Blue bloods who fuk them raw.
Your comment shows selfish ignorance and that you realize despite ur economic demise at the hands of people like you, ur still keep ur head up their ass and in the sand
Abby Nixon Bit racist of you to assume I'm white isn't it? I'm not, nor American. Is this where you tell me as an objective outside observer that I can't have any idea of what's actually happening there...?
Former NIH head Dr. Elias Zerhouni argued that the sequester would have a substantial impact on the future of scientific research.
This years BET Awards were an example of taking what’s yours and doing a better job than anything similar out there.
They were black excellence and EVERYBODY knows that.
Do that with everything else.
I want to make a throne out of melted guns from corrupted cop departments.
glee is a beautyfull word
FreedomWorks and the Conservative Action Project said that the sequester should be replaced by defunding Obamacare; that is, eliminating: the refundable tax credits that form the basis of the federal health exchanges
It's people like this that piss me off, so against the affordable health care act but have no alternative. Until it's there family member. Senator Cruz!! Who is by the way signing up cuz of his wife
and around 16 million children are hungry every day..no one talks about them
I though that the "original plan" was to have everyone on a version of medicare...but we had to make the insurance companies happy so now there is this mess which is Obama-care. Why can every civilized nation have health care for all citizens and we do not? It really is time to take our nation back before it is too late.
a veteran getting health Care is not socialism
its not as much racism as it is a war on the lower class
Am I the only one who thinks using the term "people of color" is uncomfortable? So the people who are NOT of color are... colorless?
From my understanding using the term black is not offensive if used in a regular, polite context. I'm really curious if people do get offended by this term
zing! take that, republican apologist! haha good one, bill.
Hang on a minute! Didn't I just hear Mr Maher say, "We all love money, we're Americans and there's nothing wrong with that." Then he starts criticising an American government for being... well, American. Using law enforcement to "generate revenue" is the logical result of a society that has no culture except the making money by any means possible. And of course you want to get your revenue from those who have the least possibility of successfully contesting their arrests and fines so the poor and the excluded are an excellent source.
bill has no problem with people making money he has a problem with how they make money--he would agree with you.
He never mentioned making money by any means necessary A-Hole
Abby Nixon
"He never mentioned making money by any means necessary"
And I never said he did. What I said was, and I quote:
"Using law enforcement to "generate revenue" is the logical result of a society that has no culture except the making money by any means possible."
Seems that *you're* the only "A-Hole" in this discussion.
colourmegone
Yes and you're basically calling him out that if making money is American than he legitimizes there actions. In the same since you agree with slavery as a legitimate means of revenue. Making money is guided by law. Are pimps legitimate businessmen?
Abby Nixon
"Are pimps legitimate businessmen?"
They are in Nevada.
The Love of money is the root of all evil.
Bill, please stop saying "reverse racism". Racism is racism regardless the race that is spewing it.
fined for riding a bicycle the wrong way, you got to be kidding. but then less taxes, but then regressive sales taxes. I think the US Government need to restore the faith in income taxes for all tax brackets. I just hope they remember just out of college kids who have dept.
Bill, please never say "reverse racism" again. It's just racism.
God help anyone who is getting VA help which doesn't affect his point.
Bill is wrong on vets, the poor
Ferguson should have all african american cops DAH clarify what the hell is going on
They voted on a bill they had not read DAH...disgraceful and she said it as if it was a reason to vote the bill down...had not read it ...eeeeeeekkk
it's about time the talked about results of crime...Crime is down....abortion is up ..bad word...how about not having a baby you don't really want..can't afford and are tottaly incapable of raising a child...birth control would stop a lot of crime....lets go for quality instead of quantity..if most of the public have decent jobs racism and crime will go down..but poverty and crime are biiiiig business
Are you really still talking about decent Health Care for American citizens..been doing that for years and years...should be a basic tax payers right along with education...cancel the space progrem and educate our young people....next you will be talking about equal pay for women...hasn't happened yet no matter what party was in power
The guy in New York that couldn't breathe and Mike brown would be here today if only they OBEYED the law...Period~~~
I love Bill, but I apologize, I DO NOT FEEL SORRY FOR OLD, RICH, WHITE GUYS! And you can quote me. Sorry.
She got rzowned haha
this guy makes himself irrelevant when he says crime is down. check the news headlines every day in chicago. maybe in tuscaloosa but not in chicago.
Homicides in Chicago; 1980- 863, 1990-851, 2000-663, 2014-463. So who is irrelevant? You are confusing access to information with increase in data. It is why people think the streets are more dangerous for their kids now than 20 years ago when there are half as many child abductions. You just hear about them unlike 20 years ago.
@ sophia mefford and miley luv- come on over to chicago. i'll drive you over to some spots on the west and south sides. let you out of the car and ask the people in the hood about all the safe zones that are needed to get kids to school and back and about the daily drive by shootings. and crime isn't just shootings. crime is worse than 50 years ago and i lived on the west side in those days during the riots. put up or you know what up.
people of colour ????? so im invisible
Is Matt Taibbi constipated or something???? Why does he sound like he is?
The guy had an unplanned kid and couldn't afford it ..BC BC BC
MODESTO
Look at this decaffeinated African.
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