Few things I want to say before people leave comments. A) I have not finished this tier yet, I still need to figure out the final names of all the tiers. B) If I missed speaking about any of the character's actions, please let me know and I can redo said character in part 2 Edits - Need to add 7 points for Len for trying to get Daryl killed.
@@raikkel9516 I could MAYBE see T-Dog having zero points, but for Beth, it’s a different story. She would probably have a point for killing O’Donnell in the hospital and another for the attempted murder of Dawn.
the group did not attack the saviours unprovoked, there were two attacks on them by two groups of saviours before they even met Jesus and the hilltop and nearly a third one on Daryl when Dwight and Sherry and her sister ran away, Negan was dealing with his wife passing, that could be considered a mental illness since he named his bat after her but i don't know what you would call it
No, I know. I mean, from Paula's perspective, there's nothing to suggest she was involved in those attacks. She knew about Daryl blowing up the bikers, but she didn't know the said group was the same group attacking them, plus she didn't know the details of that exchange. All I'm saying from their perspective is that a bunch of strangers came in and attacked them randomly. Maybe I'd minus one point from Negan for going through some shit.... But I'd be more likely to take that point from the murders of the Valek Vipers, not anything following it. Naming the bat after his wife is telling but It's not the same level as Beta and Lizzie's experiences.
@@MagnusRobertok i get all that but he had a huge reaction to Rick lighting his bat on fire and he cried when he found the bat broken in the ground but that might of been over other things and not the bat its self
@@gerardmcquade9102 Well it's not unusual. People have possessions that remind them or represent deceased loved ones and when they break it's traumatic for them. That's all I see it as. It's like some men and their cars. Thing gets a scratch they cry like children.
Also Lizzie should be on -1. She started off on 16 but minus 10 for her obvious mental issues. She also saved Tyreese during the fall of the prison so minus 3. Another minus 3 for being a radicalised child (even though she technically radicalised herself). Her father died from a walker bite which was hard for her to deal with so that takes her to minus 1. Ik points are points but being prepared to fully snap the neck of an infant should immediately place Martin at too far gone.
Who were the library community again? They seem to have been wiped from my memory. I thought Simon just killed a random Hilltop person. I don’t remember watching and hearing of a library community.
@@HenzoW-cf3mh Yeah, so the guy Simon beats up in the season 6 finale is a part of the Library community. Morgan and Carol also stay a night in the community. Rewatch the finale and you'll see.
what time are you talking about when you say he was mass murdering the hilltop? is it the time they put the locked car with speakers in it in the hilltop or the guts attack?
@@gerardmcquade9102 To quote Simon from The Key "It's time we come to accept that. And once we do, it'll become crystal clear there's only one thing left for us to do. We must expunge them. We must redact them! They are a mistake that we shall now erase. We are moving on."
@@gerardmcquade9102 Yeah it’s a weird part… Negan seemingly forgives him for it too and makes him bow to him later on. Obviously later revealing he knows about the scavengers massacre.
Beale had to less screen time in the spin off. Maybe Between Evil but there is some good and Evil for sure. He looks more like a good guy than a villian. Thorne should be deranked on one place Merle is not evil and not good. Jadis schould be on your rank "evil but there is some good"
I’d argue that Pope may have mental illness from war and that’s why his view on mass murder is so twisted. Believing he has orders from God to kill people is not very sane - Gabriel does the same thing but it doesn’t quite count with him bc he doesn’t just slaughter people randomly throughout the day. (I’ll admit that I haven’t made it to the end of the video yet so if this gets acknowledged later then nvm).
But in reflection the show does kind of retcon this fact just for the simple reason that he kills his own men despite preaching brotherhood. He isn’t fully stuck on his beliefs so I’m not quite sure if that excuses him.
Why does everyone do tier lists now? Just rank them worst to best the old fashioned way. Idk what it is about tier lists but they just aren't as satisfying to watch. It's better getting to hear someone's definitive conclusion as to why one is above the other where as with tier lists you have some right next to one another in the same category so you don't have that factor of each of them having their own slot in the ranking order.
Few things I want to say before people leave comments.
A) I have not finished this tier yet, I still need to figure out the final names of all the tiers.
B) If I missed speaking about any of the character's actions, please let me know and I can redo said character in part 2
Edits - Need to add 7 points for Len for trying to get Daryl killed.
You forgot that Shane saved Carl with the musical supply but kills Otis in the process
@@chaytonrash2008 thanks
@ ofc brother, love the content
I'd put slavery at least on par with grape
Fair
i would actually like to see this from the side of the heros once the villains teir list is done
The only person I could think of who would have ZERO points is probably Dale.
@@swagytonyy Yeah maybe I will
@@the.salamancas T Dog? Beth?
@@raikkel9516 I could MAYBE see T-Dog having zero points, but for Beth, it’s a different story. She would probably have a point for killing O’Donnell in the hospital and another for the attempted murder of Dawn.
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the group did not attack the saviours unprovoked, there were two attacks on them by two groups of saviours before they even met Jesus and the hilltop and nearly a third one on Daryl when Dwight and Sherry and her sister ran away, Negan was dealing with his wife passing, that could be considered a mental illness since he named his bat after her but i don't know what you would call it
No, I know. I mean, from Paula's perspective, there's nothing to suggest she was involved in those attacks. She knew about Daryl blowing up the bikers, but she didn't know the said group was the same group attacking them, plus she didn't know the details of that exchange. All I'm saying from their perspective is that a bunch of strangers came in and attacked them randomly.
Maybe I'd minus one point from Negan for going through some shit.... But I'd be more likely to take that point from the murders of the Valek Vipers, not anything following it. Naming the bat after his wife is telling but It's not the same level as Beta and Lizzie's experiences.
@@MagnusRobertok i get all that but he had a huge reaction to Rick lighting his bat on fire and he cried when he found the bat broken in the ground but that might of been over other things and not the bat its self
@@gerardmcquade9102 Well it's not unusual. People have possessions that remind them or represent deceased loved ones and when they break it's traumatic for them. That's all I see it as.
It's like some men and their cars. Thing gets a scratch they cry like children.
Do I have your permission to make a channel just like yours with the TWD Character profiles?
Well if you're making your own profiles, sure. Not if you're uploading mine tho haha.
@MagnusRobert oh no that would just be stealing I mean characters that you haven't covered
@@swiftcoupon Uhhh like alive characters?
@@MagnusRobert dead and alive
@@swiftcoupon Well I'm gonna be covering all the dead ones eventually haha. But I can't stop you lol.
Also Lizzie should be on -1. She started off on 16 but minus 10 for her obvious mental issues. She also saved Tyreese during the fall of the prison so minus 3. Another minus 3 for being a radicalised child (even though she technically radicalised herself).
Her father died from a walker bite which was hard for her to deal with so that takes her to minus 1.
Ik points are points but being prepared to fully snap the neck of an infant should immediately place Martin at too far gone.
@@HenzoW-cf3mh good point on Lizzie and might be controversial but the life of a baby isn’t any higher than that of a adult for me.
Who were the library community again? They seem to have been wiped from my memory. I thought Simon just killed a random Hilltop person. I don’t remember watching and hearing of a library community.
@@HenzoW-cf3mh Yeah, so the guy Simon beats up in the season 6 finale is a part of the Library community. Morgan and Carol also stay a night in the community. Rewatch the finale and you'll see.
since when was john locke in the walking dead
Ones who live
what time are you talking about when you say he was mass murdering the hilltop? is it the time they put the locked car with speakers in it in the hilltop or the guts attack?
Noooo Simon wanted to wipe out all of the Hilltop when he attacked with Dwight, after they thought Negan "died". It failed, but the intent was there.
@@MagnusRobert i don't remember him saying or doing that after Negan crashed
@@gerardmcquade9102 To quote Simon from The Key
"It's time we come to accept that. And once we do, it'll become crystal clear there's only one thing left for us to do.
We must expunge them.
We must redact them! They are a mistake that we shall now erase. We are moving on."
@@MagnusRobert ok ill take your word for that but it's not in my memory at all
@@gerardmcquade9102 Yeah it’s a weird part… Negan seemingly forgives him for it too and makes him bow to him later on. Obviously later revealing he knows about the scavengers massacre.
Beale had to less screen time in the spin off. Maybe Between Evil but there is some good and Evil for sure. He looks more like a good guy than a villian.
Thorne should be deranked on one place
Merle is not evil and not good.
Jadis schould be on your rank "evil but there is some good"
Its based on scores the ranks change in part 2
I’d argue that Pope may have mental illness from war and that’s why his view on mass murder is so twisted. Believing he has orders from God to kill people is not very sane - Gabriel does the same thing but it doesn’t quite count with him bc he doesn’t just slaughter people randomly throughout the day.
(I’ll admit that I haven’t made it to the end of the video yet so if this gets acknowledged later then nvm).
But in reflection the show does kind of retcon this fact just for the simple reason that he kills his own men despite preaching brotherhood. He isn’t fully stuck on his beliefs so I’m not quite sure if that excuses him.
@@HenzoW-cf3mh Yeah PTSD could be argued but It’s not the same as Lizzie and Beta
Fair
Rick would be at like 250 if he was here
@@Rxare Nah, most of Rick’s kills are ethical murders
still probably higher then simon tho
Why does everyone do tier lists now? Just rank them worst to best the old fashioned way. Idk what it is about tier lists but they just aren't as satisfying to watch. It's better getting to hear someone's definitive conclusion as to why one is above the other where as with tier lists you have some right next to one another in the same category so you don't have that factor of each of them having their own slot in the ranking order.
@@pyroAdapt I mean its not a simple
ranking I’m giving each character an evil score haha.