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@@wizzergd Xilonen and Bennett can be used for pretty much everybody that just leaves Citlali and she’s BIS for every pyro too so that’s not saying much
It's worth remembering that Mavuika is tied to Natlan supports to power her burst, so if they release a better Xilonen and/or Citlali that are not from Natlan then they could buff Arlecchino without buffing Mav
Highly unlikely, Mavuika who is able to be a support and a DPS, future Natlan units would most probably buff Mavuika more, maybe a little for Arlecchino but since Mavuika is an archon and she fits the bill for future buffs, future characters would buff her more.
@@josephusaquila I forgot which characters coming up are actually gonna be from Natlan, isn’t it just that one electro girl and the other dude? I know I’m wrong bc there has to be more but like I forgot.
@@Kuro-sensei Likewise with Arlecchino, though she would probably gain minimal buff like I said previously. And I was mentioning future Natlan characters, since they're the closest than Nod-Krai or Snezhnaya's supports. But even then, Arlecchino and Mavuika would probably be forgotten to be buffed.
4:05 One of Arlecchino's most standout qualities (in my experience, and Jamie also talked about this in a video back before Mavuika released) is her rotation/uptime flexibility. Effectively infinite duration on her infusion/damage, total swap flexibility, fast attacks-these make it really easy to deal with stuff like newly spawning waves, bosses that dash away or go underground, etc. With a lot of other carries, missing a few seconds of your dps window, for whatever reason, can mean that "ope, there goes the rest of my rotation, guess I have to start setting up the next one". Whereas with Arle you can just wait, run after the enemy, swap off, renew some buffs, swap back on, and keep hitting. Or, if you do "miss" a rotation or part of one, you can build up more bond of life for the next rotation and effectively save some of that damage.
THIS is the best information that i really wanted in a good guide! Plus the fact that she is still very strong without all those Natlan Easy-Mode-Carries! Speaking of rotation, in most case u have this problem to start at the beginning or like u said if more waves a coming. Arlecchino says: No problem i can handle it 😂🥰
Mavuika C1 also has infinite infusion damage(you can switch freely between hold/tap skill), fast attacks, swap flexiblity (even more since she becomes an off field sub-dps when you switch) and can tear between waves of enemies even if they spawn far away. And she has no crappy bond of life mechanic (re-set impact)
no doubt that mavuika is a hyper powercreep, i think she should be stronger as the pyro archon, but nothing will ever get close to character design, voice acting and animations that arlecchino has.
I have almost the opposite opinion lmao, she does power creep Mavuika but not so much that Arlechino is forgotten, but on the other hand, I absolutely love her design, voice acting, and animations. Flamestrider looks so cool, I love both her Sunset outfit from the trailer and her biker outfit, and doing donuts on Hilichurls is both funny and fun… Plus Super Saiyan Archon is so cool lol
Agreed, but the main take away people have from Mavuika as a powercreep is that she shouldn't be a main dps but a support instead, but like sure, let's make a god of war be on thr backlines instead, like Kratos should have been cheerleading while his son Atreus is bashing enemies. I suspect Mavuika is the FINAL pyro main dps we will have in a long time and the pinnacle of pyro main dps. From then on, pyro would be on the sidelines as support or off fielders, or become a rarely released element like geo before Fontaine or cryo before Citlali. Arlecchino still comes out with peak voicelines, burst animation, and drip.
not trying to be overly critical as this video is more "casual" relatively speaking 1:58 If you want the "optimal" way of arle melt w/ citlali, zajef77 has a vid all about arle titled "Is Arlecchino still a good pull?". The gist of it is you can dash cancel your CA but still get your BoL, this is to avoid applying pyro with your CA as you don't want to do that (optimally speaking). If you have signature, you just do a CA before you cast your E, then proceed with the rotation. 18:40 Chiori, or Albedo, or Zhongli's pillar, or Kachina etc. will not interfere with your melts, they only interfere in vape teams (explanation after timestamps for those curious) 21:42 "Candace is also a nice hydro option" very minor correction, just need to specify C6 Candace, without C6, candace can't apply off-field hydro for arle. why doesn't solo geo interfere with melts? this is going into elemental gauges in genshin, but at the most basic explanation when you apply geo to cryo (or any crystallizable element), it doesn't use all cryo, it only uses "half" of it and that is still enough for your pyro to melt, and it also doesn't matter if geo uses half of the cryo cause even with a "full cryo" it's also just 1 pyro melt. That's why it's specifically "solo geo" as using double off-field geo, it can start to consume all the cryo. For vaporize, pyro consumes half the hydro, this enables you to potentially vape 2 hits with just 1 full hydro on an enemy. But if you recall, geo uses half an element when it reacts, this is why in vape, geo can potentially interfere, but in melt it doesn't matter cause half or full cryo, pyro will always use all the cryo. (if you watch zjeff77 vid i mentioned earlier, this topic is also there around 21mins)
Yea I feel like jello’s understanding in some part of the game is not as in depth. Especially when it comes down to specific elemental gauge understanding in team building and rotations. Or maybe he just couldn’t find a solution and decided not to dive further in.
Yeah, Jello is more of a practical testing guy then a spreadsheet guy, and then when he is asked a question that’s more of a spreadsheet question he just refers to what the spreadsheet people have concluded but doesn’t fully get the context. It’s a little rough because as a TH-camr who wants to keep his audience he can’t really outright say “that’s not a good question for me, ask Zajge.”
@@Shane_A_Mfrankly the last thing I want is another genshin CC who quibbles at me over spreadsheets. I watch jello specifically because he’s not that. As a player in the middle between causal and meta, I want someone who spends hours testing teams to just tell me what feels best in practice, because 9/10 times that will trump a technically more optimal rotation
So Fischl has standard icd, so she only applies electro every 4 Oz hits. Her c6 provides coordinated attacks that share icd with Oz, so since Arlecchino normal attacks a lot, the electro app goes insane
@@dany08122 She also has A4 which triggers when an on-fielder triggers an Electro reaction and it always applies Electro (no icd) when it hits (up to once every 0.5s). This is why she's so good in Aggravate (+ it even counts as skill damage so it's buffed by 4GT).
If you dash cancel the charged attack it absorbs her BOL while also letting you hit that first normal with max BOL and you don't have to wait for the cryo aura With Sig, you just start the rotation with a non-cancelled charged attack and stack the BOL to carry on like normal
Coping. Arlecchino had Furina, Xilonen, Citlali, Kazuha, Yelan, Bennett and you are still saying she needs a dedicated support? Man, she already had the best support of the entire game.
@@RinHimeevelyn he meant dedicated support. The ones u mentioned are mostly universal lol. Mavuika has dedicated supports like xilonen, citlali tht works on nighsoul. But bond of life doesnt have enought buff.
@@RinHimeevelyn Lmao seems like you're the one coping, mavuika litterly has support dedicated to her unique mechanic, while theres no supports that help with bond of life(at least currently) Furina,Bennett etc. aren't dedicated to her and if you're gonna compare mavuika and arlecchino with those universal supports that don't help with mavuika's machanic(xilonen, citlali etc.) arlecchino is obviously gonna be outclassing her
What I'm optimistic about is that Mavuika's best team is more or less set. Arlecchino for now shares the same best team with Mavuika but there is still room for growth since she doesn't have the Natlan "restriction" in team building. Flexibility is always a plus. Snezhnaya will eventually come. The Cryo archon will be interesting. I just hope that they don't follow the region restrictions trend like Natlan in team building for the forseeable future.
Honestly, I do like the region uniqueness that comes with it. Natlan characters are already great outside their region, but within they do even better, so having Shneznaya characters do the same would be fine by me. Unless it’s something similar to Dragonspine cold buildup in which case fuck outta here with that lmao
Also for those that still don't know how BoL works, it's basically a reverse shield, instead of soaking up damage, it soaks up healing; if you have 200 BoL you need 200 in healing to clear it. (Basically, the way its applied is different but thats the basic explanation).
@@sladevalenif you have a character with 20,000 hp, and 100 BoL, you need to heal 20,000 to clear the BoL. Likewise, at 200 BoL you need to heal 40,000 hp. It’s not about instances of healing rather how much you heal
Even though I have Citlali, I’m gonna get Arle instead of Mavuika anyway just because I like Arle more as a character. I dislike the playstyle and aesthetic of the bike combat haha
Reading comments the whole Mavuika Vs Arlecchino thing kinda makes me hate a very vocal minority of the player base. I love both characters, and their play styles. But both sides are incredibly toxic and obnoxious and just blatantly lie to justify why their favorite is better. One doesn’t need to tear down someone else’s favorite to justify their own. Play the characters you like, the game isn’t hard enough to justify prioritizing Meta. How characters rank on a tier list shouldn’t dictate who you play. Additionally they can be played together and these are genuinely my favorite teams. They synergize really well and aren’t mutually exclusive due to Mavuika’s role flexibility. Imo if you had to choose only one yeah I’d recommend Mavuika but really I don’t think having one excludes getting the other. Play who you like, pull the characters you love. Games are meant to be enjoyed. There’s nothing wrong with factoring in meta into your decision but when it gets to the point to ruining your enjoyment are leading you to act outwardly hostile towards people who’s opinion differs from your own you’ve gone too far and need to touch grass. If your first response to that is to complain about either character, don’t, I’ve heard them all before and they’re all boring/ bad takes Imo it goes like this, Arle is easier to play optimally, Mavuika is stronger and more flexible in terms of role, both need certain supports to feel their best but have a ton of options when it comes to team building. Mavuika has more mechanical depth but Arle has more flexibility when it comes to how you play her rotations due to preserving BOL between switches. Arle feels snappier, mavuika feels more powerful. Mavuika is easier to farm/ build for but you probably already have a decent Glad set for Arlecchino. They can use similar supports in their best teams but we have enough options to run both. Together I’ve gotten some of my fastest abyss times and separately they still feel amazing. You’ll have an easier time using NA related buffing characters like Yelan and XQ with Arle, but Mavuika can actually use Furina. Arlecchino has better self sustain with her Panic heal but Mavuika has a better nuke. There is more but my point is they both have their strengths and weaknesses. They play very different so don’t feel like you HAVE to pick one if you can’t decide. Don’t buy into the negativity on either side. If you like them, Get them, if not, don’t. They’re both strong enough that you won’t regret pulling either or both.
For real... they're both amazing characters and super fun. I'm pulling for Arlecchino after I just got Mavuika because they're both just awesome characters mechanically and design-wise. I don't know why this has to be a competition.
the part i dislike about this powercreep is that not only is mav better by a significant margin but she also steals all of arles best team's supports, on top of that she is a support for multiple teams, like wtf hoyo ( arle is still my favourite character across all hoyo games, hoping to get her c2 this rerun with 20 pulls, all hail father) Edit : the same people who bitch about hsr by saying it has powercreep are now defending the same thing in genshin, gacha players are certainly people of all time
They're both bound to share the same team since, they're both pyro, they're both ATK scaling, and they both have nuke bursts. What do you expect? The only difference between them is their playstyle and additional mechanics like Phlogiston and Bond of Life. Your preference about them will be the deciding factor who you'd want to play with. So 'sharing' is a more appropriate word than 'stealing' since you're not forced to play both of them with their best teams, unless you're extremely petty about damage numbers.
@@josephusaquila ah yes i love "sharing" my teammates on both sides of abyss, also i love "sharing" my teammates with a character that will inherently output less dps than the other character with same investment, make it make sense. also about the first part of "what do we expect" will be to make her numbers in line with arle as she already has upsides in terms of being a support and can be healed as well, this way she wont be overpowered while still have upsides but now she is just overpowered and has all the upsides too, anyways you can have your own perspective, ima not argue further, peace
About melt combo: ypu actually can cancel your charged attack with dash. This way Arli still gets BoL, but does not consume cryo with her charged attack. So, you can do your 5 normals right away. It needs practice and does not save you too much time, but maybe it will help someone =)
Quick heads up as I didn't see you mention it in the video so far (I haven't fully finished it yet, and probably won't have the time to do so in 1 go): Instead of charged attack-ing to claim the BoL and waiting for the cryo aura to reappear, I've found it much better to cancel the charged attack halfway through the animation, thus claiming the BoL without applying pyro, allowing you to start attacking, without having to wait and idly sit by. Also, as someone who isn't much of a Xilonen fan, to anyone that isn't either, replacing her with Sucrose can be a good alternative
It was going to happen lol. No shot they release a stronger pyro dps before Natlan's own pyro unit. I see the same thing happening with Skirk if they make her a Cryo dps instead of an early access element for Nod Krai (doubt), Snezhnaya will have their own Cryo power creep dps.
@@HarshitSinghRajput And I'm all for it. I'm waiting for my Cryo DPS. Got Ayaka in her first banner, will never use her. Considered Wrio, but may change my mind (I dunno). I have a DPS for every element by now, I just need a Cryo one, I hope they release a drippy and fun Cryo DPS in Snezhnaya.
@@josephusaquila I am pretty much the Same. I have Ayaka, Ganyu and I just don't find the Opportunity to use them. If Only they allow Shatter to Auto trigger on boss since those can't be frozen.
Hu Tao main for the longest time. Then Arlechinno and now Mavuika. I still use all 3 and rotate among them for fun , they have their own artefacts built and do not share the artefacts. Hu Tao by virtue of being longest with me, has 3 full sets of artefacts : Crimson, Shimenawa and Marechaussee with Furina. Shim is the most consistent damage and overall stats, but I like the MH build with Furina although a bit weird. The MH built could be put on my Neuv but best longest time girl gets the prettiest shiniest things. I am just a pyro main and a simp for red fiery ladies.
At this point the powercreep conversation needs to be had in genshin. It does exist. Though it barely affects gameplay, it makes you jump through multiple hoops in the form of teambuilding/elemental restrictions for the end game. It's the opposite of HSR, where characters are unusable in one game mode but great in the other, and difficulty is managed via hp increases. You could argue that a straight up dps increase is harder to keep up with. On the other hand, you could also argue that having annoying mechanics that arbitrarily lower your potential dps is equally frustrating, since the abyss is meant to test your account's strength, and some bosses stop you from doing that. In any case, I want people to stop ruling out powercreep in genshin, because ignoring it doesn't help.
@ACatThatCantSing ima be honest and people are really gonna dislike this one but I've never had problem keeping up with endgame in hsr Or any frustration at all being completely f2p no eidolons but in genshin, to this day i get frustrated by them putting these stupid bosses that want you to have exact elements or now it's even absurd with these matlan units, in hsr for me, once I was able to get two teams after that it was smooth sailing since getting new teams and characters is infinitely easier ngl. That's just my perspective, people can argue what they want for their favourite game but as someone who enjoys both I say this in most unbiased way as possible.
@@hachiman205 you say its absurd with the natlan units, do you mean the characters or the papilla boss with the shield? If the latter then you don't even need natlan characters for it. Not saying it's you in particular, but Abyss is fine, so many players complain they want tough then those same players complain when it's hard.
@vgnrnr well because the difficulty that players want is not elemental or unit checks and time gating shit but rather having enemies that atk frequently and hit hard and you get rewarded for doding. Now genshin is not wuwa or zzz type of game but you can't defend the fact that they purposely make these bosses to sell new units, how blatant they gotta be till people see it lmao, look at abyss blessings and bosses, they all want specific elements or natlan units that are featured on banner every patch my guy, don't even get me started on theatre, it's the worst mode ever released, if that's your concept of "difficulty" then be it but to me it screams greed on their part.
Chiori/Albedo dont interfere with your melts. Since pyro clears cryo with one hit, even if you crystallize and weaken your cryo, youre still getting one melt out of every cryo application. Citlali is totally fine in an arlecchino team.
dont understand why people upset about other characters are being stronger than their favourite character. its not like arlechino's damage reduced by mavuika or some shit, isnt it even better that you can go for another stronger character when you want to ? i love arlechino, but i didnt like mavuika at all. And if there is stronger character came out that i really like! im definetely gonna get that character since my arlechino wont just disapear bcos of that
thanks for making this video Jello, i've been wondering about the finer differences between mavuika and arlecchino. i really don't like mavuika's bike and considering to get arlecchino instead, so it's nice to have this comparison. my only other reliable pyro dps is yoimiya and as much as i love her she struggles so much with mobs. (there's also the badly built yanfei and slapdash gaming but they're mostly only there for IT at this point, can't really keep up with abyss with them even when i steal good artifacts for them from other characters...)
7 months ago when i first started to play i once stumbled upon a short of Arlechinno and i loved her ever since. Mavika is beautiful and kind but i just love Arlechinno's design and play style more even if she is power creeped . Skipped mavuika for her and i regret nothing. Arlechinno's White/silver hair , her clothes and her red black eyes , her heels , her idle her attack animation and the colors, the snap during her burst i love everything about her .
I think people forget the fact as well that arle can instantly get into range of the enemies whereas many other main dps Carrie’s struggle with that (except neuvy)
3:44 sounds like wherever you managed to get this conclusion is very much stretching their finding to the moon there. C0 Mavuika being closer to C2 Arlecchino is just untrue. The last time I do spreadsheet impact on the two at C0R1 + Citlali Xilonen Bennett, the difference between them is like 1.9m DPR for mav(18s rot, 4ca melt) and 1.4m DPR for arlecc(16s rot, 6 melt). accounting for the rotation time, the overall dps between the two is like less than 20% apart. Arlecchino C1 worth about 25% at the very very least, so that alone already make up for the difference. Also regarding Whimsey vs Gladiator, the difference is only about 5-7% dps, on citlali sigr1+ bennett(c6) + xilo team. Just 1 or 2 substat roll could be the tiebreaker between which of the two is better for your account.
Well, you said it yourself. Spreadsheet Impact. Or better said, the place where Arlecchino scams the most out of every other character and everybody knows it (but sure, 80K DPS with White Tassel and KQMS levels of investment, suuuuuuuure). There is a reason why C0 Arlecchino is considered overrated even by those who speedrun with her. In speedruns, Mavuika C0R1 is beating C1R1 Arlecchino without the 75% DMG bonus and she also doesn't scam with constellations on her supports like Arlecchino has always done since her release (Kazuha, Furina, Yelan... all C2 "somehow"). And just as a note: before Citlali, Arlecchino was nowhere near Navia's best times, yet if you tell people that Navia is a monster they would laugh because Excel Impact doesn't show it.
@@gamesdivision6511 he himself is using data from spreadsheet calculation to make this very conclusion. so it's only fair to question it with the same methodology.
If you ever read this, I i do appreciate that even though you are still firmly positive overall for Genshin, you are not afraid to call out the problems and negatives in Hoyo's approach with releasing and designing characters. These issues also apply to the other Hoyoverse games, but are especially magnified when they affect Genshin since it's the poster child of their brand. I do enjoy Genshin still, but my enthusiasm is definitely much more tempered over the last year due to their decisions.
There’s power creep- but if you are doing Mauv signature team on one side, you can do Arl on the other with her aggravate team. They don’t necessarily need to compete
Going GT with Yae Miko along Chevreuse and Arlec doesn't require you a Fischl since you don't care about her burst, therefore you can use bennet, if you are using Fischl plus Yae you can use GD instead. Also unlike many weakness of Fischl in Arlechinno's team, Yae does not need you to pre-summon Oz to gain the bullet for Chevy because you are placing the 3 turrets anyways, the amount of field time used will be the same for the first rotation. The second thing is Yae's random turret hits and burst helps you to overload Shred everything not just the target you are hitting without range issues.
@@joeltoomer3332 that bike is ridiculously goofy, and so out of place. Speaking as someone with C2R1 Mavuika, she's great for meta, but doesn't feel as fun as someone like Tartaglia or Arlecchino. In my opinion of course.
In melt with citlali you can do 5NA D or 3NA D (second has more consistent cryo aura, but more stamina consuming), also you can dash cancel her CA to not apply pyro and you don't have to waste time waiting for cryo aura. Source: zajef's video
My favorite Arle comp to run is the wheel chair comp with Xilonen and C1 Chiori. Last slot is either Bennet or TTDS Charlotte depending on the content. Xilonen empowers both Arlecchino and Chiori with her res shred, especially Chiori since she hits harder while Arle destroys everything on-field. As for Mavuika vs. Arle...well despite of Mavuika powercreeping everyone, I'm still going to use her as a sub dps holding cinder for my Kinich or Mualani as a replacement for Xiangling. No need to worry about er issue from Xiang anymore ^^
In a game where you can clear the abyss using only 4 star characters, power creep although present is very subtle so if you like a character wish on it and if you don’t just save. Build well, understand the kit and practice. Jello always makes sure to show the highs and lows of every character and in the end highlight that you should pull for the character you like. 36 stars with 10s more or less will get you the same amount of rewards in the end.
I saw a vid of someone clearing with 3 four star characters using 4 star weapons both sides, there is powercreep on genshin but its very low in comparison to hsr
@@skyfires4499 ahh yeah i double checked they were c6 but its still 3 characters each side, most people have a few cons on their 4 stars and have some 5 stars theyve pulled. Theres no excuse not to beat both sides with a 4 man team as long as you figure out what to do
@@skyfires4499 right im just saying its possible even without c6 four stars, of course you need well built characters to beat it or there would be no point to farming artifacts. You can definitely beat it without broken characters too with enough knowledge, nobody should expect to beat the end game content with a newish account
I think you're underselling 4pc Glad on arle - you can easily be in the top of the akasha leaderboards with a 4pc Glad build (current highest is 3rd). I've been passively farming glad for 4 years, other people have been at it longer, it will be a looooooooong time in the BoL domain to beat my glad pieces. (i did farm it until 5.0 came out)
the reasons i hold back to pull for her is: 1.with release of mavuika next meta dps's would be stronger to convince ppl for pulling 2.already have c2 r1 mavuika in main account and c0r0 arlechino in secound account 3.dosent have infinite primos so i must planing for spend but i love arlechino,she is insanly strong,her sound effects and fighting style is amazing and for me she stand side by side with mavuika. and i think she is better for f2p players,she works with alot of teams and can work with future characters. thats my opinions,have a nice day❤
the reason i got mavuika ( also citlai ) aside form the fact that she has some supporting capabilities is that i can play her in her best team on one side and still play hutao on her best team on the other because both of their supports don't crash ( like with arlecchino ) teams, hutao yelan furina xilonen and mavuika citlali kazuha bennet ( also kazuha and bennet got some use on my account now )
The person who asked "is it guaranteed that you loss you 50/50 to other signature weapon?", I think they meant if u lose the 5050 r u guaranteed to lose it to the other sig weapon featured on the banner and not to another 5 star weapon that isn't featured
Arlecchino's future prospects are greater than mavuikas since mavuika uses natlan characters. Who many new natlan character are going to come out? I have enjoyed arlecchino citlali bennett rosalia team. That team uses two 4 stars who could get 5 star versios in future especially in cryo nation. Sure mavuika is clearly stronger but as someone who has arlecchino c1s1 getting one mavuika is same as c2 arlecchino. If mavuika had normal energy then I could have used mavuika with raiden since my only two 5 star dps characters are arlecchino and raiden. I have cyno too but let's not count that. I have both citlali and xilonen but my habit is use them separately. Citlali with arlecchino and xilonen with raiden double hydro teams. If abyss is hard counter to hydro then I use chevreuse c6 team with than floor. I think I'm not going to pull any main dps characters anymore good thing I have all support that I need finally.
Arle future aspect would be sitting in the bench because her dumarse cant compete with the other dpses. While mav will be a solid off field pyro and cinder bot
@@gautham6981 Only with natlan characters. Any new supports after natlan does nothing to her. We have her best team which is going to be her best team to game's end. Arlecchino at least have change to get new supports who work well with her. For examble bond of live support or next cryo off-field with citlali who grands crit damage buffs for normal attacks.
ill just say this, I have a Hu Tao that I got during her first banner and she is so well built and high invested in that she easily outperforms my arle who I got today. Both of them have 240+ artifact CV with hu tao's being slightly higher. As a F2P I would say for sure that if u hv a character that u well invest in, build teams around it, get Constellations and weapons they become really good. Not to be mean or anything but I feel power creep matters when u r speed running n setting world records and at that point u r a C6R5 person, for an avg player both Mavuika and Arle r gonna clear the abyss within 90s with a gap of barely 5-10s which honestly u can't even notice so ATP I feel everyone is freaking out abt Arle getting power crept, which honestly doesn't matter.
I got really lucky and pulled two copies of Lumidouce Elegy back to back giving me the ultimate Arle-Emilie burning team. I can highly recommend getting a super lucky double pull of Emilie’s weapon lol.
Timestamps would be awesome. Because i don't have Mavuika or Citlali and Xilonen(the Easy-Mode-Carries). And it's hard to see/hear everything is fine or perfect if u have both of them. So the only informations i need is about F2p and not whale stuff. Even your old footage is with a Arlecchino higher than c0, right?! What really helps was the Teambuilding and Artefactsection of the video! I mean this is very important! A big thank u for this sections. ^^
i think the person who would skip skirk if she has a vision is either saying they want her to have abyss powers or for whatever reason want her to have a delusion or just have a reason to have vision powers without the vision
As someone who had Arlecchino before Mavuika, Arlecchino is still my second best dps so I still use her without question. Since I use both of them in the abyss I need to balance their teams since they share teammates in their bis teams, so I use: Mavuika, Xilonen, Furina, and Citlali, and Arlecchino, Yelan, Bennett, and Sucrose. Which is the original Arlecchino team I built after getting her that got me through the abyss. Having c0r1 Mavuika and c1r0 Arlecchino, Mavuika's rotation feels so much easier to play especially since she can't be interrupted and can be healed. Arlecchino's inability to heal without her burst imo in the leading factor to Mavuika feeling way more comfy to play. I really hope than Lan yan is able to bring up the qol of a vv vaporize Arlecchino team, especially since it's a lot less premium of a team that is still insanely good.
9:46 Yes, Arle can be buffed without mauvika getting buffed. Mauvika have natlan support which she needs, Arle would get **Bond of life** supports at some point
Thanks for the guide! I have c2 mauv but ima get arlec anyway because Father. Mauv will prob be a really good sub dps/support for her anyway with res shred ring and buffs
For the topic of an unit that can buff Arlecchino and not mavuika, I was thinking about it the other day, and all we need is actually an electro unit made for overload and bond of life. That would buff both clorinde and Arlecchino in cheveroise team. Mavuika Is harder to buff. Unless they made a natlan only 5*Bennet.
You also can dash from charged atk and if you have signature use charged before skill it’s better rotation and that’s the reason why you couldn’t play kaeya melt And the better combo is N3D and then if you are out of stamina N5D
I just like the fact that Arlecchino has no self-rotation and her BoL is not affected by time. I can still 36-star the current abyss without Mavuika, Xilonen, Ororon, Neuvillette.
@@cbrudder84 either suanni or the whole second half pwns him, unfortunately. I tried various non-natlan combinations, but doesn't seem possible to time it good. Maybe with Raiden, dunno, don't have her.
@alexmelik4030 hyperbloom works amazingly for 2nd half, even the f2p 4 star versions don't have an issue with it. The only natlan units that can deal well with papilla are kinich and chasca.
regarding double cryo with rosaria, i don't know for sure but i guess that you think other people overestimate rosaria dmg, because you don't use her with 5* crit Weapon, and also because you don't count citlali's weapon that will buff rosaria's dmg also . and very probable (if using ttds citlali) you rotation doesn't allow rosaria to obtain Cinder city buff, or citlali doesn't melt, or rosaria doesn't have bennet buff.... with citlali weapon i think that best character rotation order is bennet, citlali, rosaria and arle - with ttds on citlali you cannot do it, and rosaria will not have at least CC buff but also citlali weapon buff. i guess that at C0R1 levels (c6 for rosaria) it all depends on the enemy, if it has 30%+ resistances than xilonen is better, if 20%- resistances - than rosaria is better. i will find out myself when i will obtain and build arle during this banner.
I rolled on her banner just to get c6 chevreuse, at zero pity, i got father at 40 pulls, then THE VERY NEXT PULL got her again. now i have c2 arlecchino, and her weapon. all i wanted was chev, ended up with the strongest dps with one her best constellations. Genshin loves me more than you, ama
Tbh at this point it feels like we need Yunjin Pro Max for extra ASPD and Normal Attack DMG in order to bring Arle and Ayato back to relevance. And in Ayato's case I guess having a really good Normal Attack sword could work too, but we literally just got one and it didn't really change much. And it's hard to make something that is somehow better than Jade Cutter or Haran, or in Arlecchino's case better than PJWS, Homa or her sig. Personally I still like Arlecchino a lot. The freedom to just swap off of her whenever without losing uptime is insane QoL. And Mavuika's reliance on Natlan characters is kind of crippling in my eyes, even if I do have the characters she needs. I just wish they didn't both need Benny. I guess you could run Arle in a Chev comp without Benny? Idk, it feels like her dmg would drop off a cliff though
Tbh I think the worst issue with her is just that you can't heal her and have to constantly wander around with an incomplete health bar. Just give her a thirty second and very significant damage cut if you heal her. Solves it.
For buffing Arlecchino in future they can introduce a character which gives BOL (bond of life) to the Arlecchino, as 200% Arle can easily comparable with Mavuika
It's tough that Arle and Mavuika overlap so much. Thankfully either can play melt, vape or Chevy. Mav wanting Natlan chars but also the only one who can utilize Furina makes it even more tough lol.
Hey! Thanks for all these tips! I have her and love to use in an Overload team. My team is Chevruse, Raiden and Thoma. I saw you made some comments in this team. Do you have another video explaining this comp better? I don't know how to build the Raiden in particular (atack or EM? Which artifact?) It's okay to refer another video of yours, someone else or link some reference that I can look for
Could someone please explain to me why Bennet is considered broken when his value relies so heavily on his burst? I have managed to get his EM and ER to a point where he would burst every rotation but he still needs to normal attack a bunch to get it there which is both wasteful and dangerous when he’s on field hitting giant bosses with a tiny stick while I wait for his burst to fill up.
Only thing matters Arle is SS character power creep or not. A difference of 5 sec clear don't rly matter I'm a Dehya main Don't know I have these Pyro monsters with signature weapon.Arle at C1
6:54 the reasoning behind if arlecchino ever feels bad in the abyss then so does every other DPS in the abyss do too, while it is kinda true but most of the time not exactly. They can just put an 80% pyro resistance enemy on the abyss and it will only affect Mavuika and Arlecchino. That's the genuis behind Mavuika evil but Genuis she has Xilonen and Citlali while reaching higher DPS than arlecchino. But if Hoyo ever wants to shut her down in favor of other elements they can just make citlali not able for proc Freeze or Melt on the enemy and Xilonen not able to use the cinder city buff for pyro and in that case if would just be close to even with Arleccino and Mavuika This is when a "Mid" character like Clorinde even tho not reaching the highest high but is an Electro and versatile element which would not care much for the Pyro resistance Or needing Citlali. As example Clorinde plays well Vs papilla better than Arlecchino without the pyro buff. Also Navia vs Geo shield with her claymore and Geo element.
Personally, i have both, mavuika has her weapon and arle has the PJWS, and arlecchino feels more comfortable ~overall~. Because mavuika is a bit less amazing at multi-target and against enemies that move a lot (in case you miss her burst hit orz), and arlecchino doesn't hit like a truck but does go around like a racing car bumping on everyone without much effort. I feel like mavuika is stronger! But arle is just easier for me. Also, my arle fav team is C6 Benny, C6 Candace and a shielder (citlali is good, but zhongli or layla with tenacity are good enough that the abyss slips by no problem), with mavuika I feel like she's a bit more attached to having either xilonen or citlali. This is just how i feel, the overall comfort and not about just the damage, I love them both soooo much
Please, advise: - 2 week old acc, AR 34 - zero 5* - out of good 4* Bennet, Sucrose + free ones - no 5* artifacts, barely any decent 4* - am far from Natlan content Who is better in this situation, Arle or Mav?
it really doesn't matter. genshin doesn't become challenging until very late into the game, and your circumstances will have changed by then. you are far away from having to worry about meta and tier lists and who's stronger/better. literally just pull for anyone you like more
Since you’re far from Natlan, I’d say arlecchino. Mavuika is a bit reliant on having natlan characters on the team(although there is the free kachina and pyro traveler as options) If you want long term versatility, I’d say mavuika, since she’s able to be both on and off field damage dealer. But if you go mavuika I’d say you want to get xilonen or Citlali eventually. You could go with this team for either pyro dps: Arlecchino/mavuika Sucrose(use VV set and swirl pyro. Could also use Lanyan for that since she’s on arlechino’s banner and during lantern rite) Bennett (A couple different options, id recommend a hydro, cryo, or electro off field character for reaction damage) If you see this too late to pull mavuika during this banner, I’d say arlecchino is definitely a more versatile option for where you are in the game at the moment. If you still want mavuika on her rerun(could be around banners 5.6-5.7?) you’ll be able to make the decision then Edit: to repeat what the previous commenter said, pull for who you want more, this is just to help you if you are completely undecided
@@m_milos you say that, but my units are getting 2-3 shot even at just world level 3 because I don't have enough mats to level them/their artifacts to a decent level
@helicopterhatguy thank you! I lost my 50/50 to Keqing on 78 pulls on Mavuika. Is it realistic to get 90 pulls in the time Arle banner will be up for f2p?
@@Seikenguy since your account is new, it should be enough time and there’s plenty of primos to be found from exploration. Plus, lantern rite is coming up so that will be more primos. I also recommend you look into redeem codes to get some easy primos if you haven’t already. You should be able to find info on TH-cam about them.
Well, we are going next to Snezhnaya, so I think we could have some Bond of Life buffers, we don't have support for that yet, so that could raise the bar for Arle without touching Mavu. I don't care, I don't like Arle, but that's what I think would be the easiest way to give a strong buff, if other carries will use Bond of Life there too (although I'm not a fan of the mechanic).
It's like if you owned the highest-rated theme park in the world, and then you debuted another really cool roller coaster the same day a competitor opened down the street with a new theme park that makes yours look outdated and replaces it as the highest-rated theme park. Was it a good day for your park?
I did pull Clorinde on her 1st banner and got her C1 almost by accident and I'm so happy with her gameplay that I think I will go for her C2 while trying to get chev C6
Why do you hate Kujou Sara so much? Talked about all these overload teams, but didn't bring her up as even a sub-optimal option even once, even as a replacement for Bennet. I know some people find her clunky, but esp at C6 she's absolutely not weak, especially in OL teams.
C6 Sara is excellent in Raiden teams including OL and TCers complaining about her clunkiness have skill issue. People should get out of the EQ mindset.
Acheron is way more unusable without her premium team and is struggling to clear endgame while Arle still clears pretty effortlessly, we're not quite there yet
Unrelated to the video question, but how much resin does one need to spend on average to have a somewhat good build I am asking this because I started playing a little before natlan release and got a lot of characters I want to build but not much time to do so! To name a few: Mavuika, Clorinde, Nahida, Neuvilette. (I currently have 0 primogems because i used all on clorinde which is my fav character playstyle wise but I intend to futurely get Citlali, Furina and Xilonen if I manage to get enough primos) So far I only have "decently" built Kazuha, Raiden, and some 4 stars like bennett and xingqiu.
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hello i know this is like a comment about the video but i really think you should do that if you have these 5 stars you win the game that guide is really helping me to have a baseline on what to do + is more content for you
I watched a dps showcase and mavuika was better even without citlali and xilonen so she is fully powercrept.
41 minute guide damn
You said to build Thoma on Tenacity at 17:30 ish. Tenacity doesn’t work on him so you’re probably thinking Nobless.
Nice video
Well at least it's safe to say that Arlecchino will never be powercrept in drip
@@sandra_de_gl true asf, let me see mav pull out a scythe and then we talk 😤
Preach🔥
someone's salty
@@demoncloud6147it’s true tho, Arlecchino is the drippiest character (maybe Furina is a bit more but I’m also a Furina Stan so like)
Never say never, bro 👀
“Man Arlecchino is so trash now she went from the 2nd best DPS to the 3rd best!!”
Me who mains Eula:
Other dpses at least doesn't have a unit which is used in the same teams, has the same element and is 30% better.
@@wizzergd Xilonen and Bennett can be used for pretty much everybody that just leaves Citlali and she’s BIS for every pyro too so that’s not saying much
@@MrBigBazinga
Hu Tao still has similar sheeting teams to Arlecchino while not having a single unit in common with Mavuika, just saying.
@@mayukhmondal5552 Mavuika and Arlecchino use the same team lol
Navia hu tao chasca mualani kinich clorinde are all better than arlechino , arle fans cope hard lol
It's worth remembering that Mavuika is tied to Natlan supports to power her burst, so if they release a better Xilonen and/or Citlali that are not from Natlan then they could buff Arlecchino without buffing Mav
Yeah but at most buff her to top 2, since Xilonen and Citlali can be on Neuvillettes best team, so they would be buffing him too
Highly unlikely, Mavuika who is able to be a support and a DPS, future Natlan units would most probably buff Mavuika more, maybe a little for Arlecchino but since Mavuika is an archon and she fits the bill for future buffs, future characters would buff her more.
@@josephusaquila future supports that don't have nightsoul mechanics would buff other units more than they would buff Mavuika
@@josephusaquila I forgot which characters coming up are actually gonna be from Natlan, isn’t it just that one electro girl and the other dude? I know I’m wrong bc there has to be more but like I forgot.
@@Kuro-sensei Likewise with Arlecchino, though she would probably gain minimal buff like I said previously.
And I was mentioning future Natlan characters, since they're the closest than Nod-Krai or Snezhnaya's supports. But even then, Arlecchino and Mavuika would probably be forgotten to be buffed.
4:05 One of Arlecchino's most standout qualities (in my experience, and Jamie also talked about this in a video back before Mavuika released) is her rotation/uptime flexibility. Effectively infinite duration on her infusion/damage, total swap flexibility, fast attacks-these make it really easy to deal with stuff like newly spawning waves, bosses that dash away or go underground, etc. With a lot of other carries, missing a few seconds of your dps window, for whatever reason, can mean that "ope, there goes the rest of my rotation, guess I have to start setting up the next one". Whereas with Arle you can just wait, run after the enemy, swap off, renew some buffs, swap back on, and keep hitting. Or, if you do "miss" a rotation or part of one, you can build up more bond of life for the next rotation and effectively save some of that damage.
THIS is the best information that i really wanted in a good guide! Plus the fact that she is still very strong without all those Natlan Easy-Mode-Carries!
Speaking of rotation, in most case u have this problem to start at the beginning or like u said if more waves a coming. Arlecchino says: No problem i can handle it 😂🥰
Mavuika C1 also has infinite infusion damage(you can switch freely between hold/tap skill), fast attacks, swap flexiblity (even more since she becomes an off field sub-dps when you switch) and can tear between waves of enemies even if they spawn far away. And she has no crappy bond of life mechanic (re-set impact)
Rage bait used to be believable 🤦🤦@@Marc-w1f5x
Arle : Only DPS
Mav : Both DPS and Support
Mav wins🎉❤
@@chrisevans9882 yes, I got her for support and for me DPS is a bonus but it's so good that I use it.
no doubt that mavuika is a hyper powercreep, i think she should be stronger as the pyro archon, but nothing will ever get close to character design, voice acting and animations that arlecchino has.
I have almost the opposite opinion lmao, she does power creep Mavuika but not so much that Arlechino is forgotten, but on the other hand, I absolutely love her design, voice acting, and animations. Flamestrider looks so cool, I love both her Sunset outfit from the trailer and her biker outfit, and doing donuts on Hilichurls is both funny and fun… Plus Super Saiyan Archon is so cool lol
definetly, i love mavuika but i want to get arrle just because of what an amazin character she is
Agreed, but the main take away people have from Mavuika as a powercreep is that she shouldn't be a main dps but a support instead, but like sure, let's make a god of war be on thr backlines instead, like Kratos should have been cheerleading while his son Atreus is bashing enemies.
I suspect Mavuika is the FINAL pyro main dps we will have in a long time and the pinnacle of pyro main dps. From then on, pyro would be on the sidelines as support or off fielders, or become a rarely released element like geo before Fontaine or cryo before Citlali.
Arlecchino still comes out with peak voicelines, burst animation, and drip.
I made her as a main dps in the abyss with citlali, furina and xilonen
Her artifact set is actually 8% increase over Gladiator. Still worth it IMO but smaller than I said
So is it not worth farming for?
You were probably remembering the difference between Whimsy and TF/Glad for Clorinde
so the 20% extra bonus dmg equates to just 8 % increase?
@@Nishant2108 glad's 36% damage bonus is constant but wimsey's 56% damage bonus isn't constant, at an average it's 8% better
@@Mumelele0 ah makes sense
Arlecchino doesn't bounce on a goofy ass bike and that's more than enough for me
what a gay!
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arle mains be mad as hell lol
@@MO-zk8qsNah, he's right it feels so goofy.
@@eddy_is_a_squidpotatoe471 I like it 🤷♀️
not trying to be overly critical as this video is more "casual" relatively speaking
1:58 If you want the "optimal" way of arle melt w/ citlali, zajef77 has a vid all about arle titled "Is Arlecchino still a good pull?". The gist of it is you can dash cancel your CA but still get your BoL, this is to avoid applying pyro with your CA as you don't want to do that (optimally speaking). If you have signature, you just do a CA before you cast your E, then proceed with the rotation.
18:40 Chiori, or Albedo, or Zhongli's pillar, or Kachina etc. will not interfere with your melts, they only interfere in vape teams (explanation after timestamps for those curious)
21:42 "Candace is also a nice hydro option" very minor correction, just need to specify C6 Candace, without C6, candace can't apply off-field hydro for arle.
why doesn't solo geo interfere with melts?
this is going into elemental gauges in genshin, but at the most basic explanation when you apply geo to cryo (or any crystallizable element), it doesn't use all cryo, it only uses "half" of it and that is still enough for your pyro to melt, and it also doesn't matter if geo uses half of the cryo cause even with a "full cryo" it's also just 1 pyro melt. That's why it's specifically "solo geo" as using double off-field geo, it can start to consume all the cryo.
For vaporize, pyro consumes half the hydro, this enables you to potentially vape 2 hits with just 1 full hydro on an enemy. But if you recall, geo uses half an element when it reacts, this is why in vape, geo can potentially interfere, but in melt it doesn't matter cause half or full cryo, pyro will always use all the cryo. (if you watch zjeff77 vid i mentioned earlier, this topic is also there around 21mins)
Yea I feel like jello’s understanding in some part of the game is not as in depth. Especially when it comes down to specific elemental gauge understanding in team building and rotations. Or maybe he just couldn’t find a solution and decided not to dive further in.
Yeah, Jello is more of a practical testing guy then a spreadsheet guy, and then when he is asked a question that’s more of a spreadsheet question he just refers to what the spreadsheet people have concluded but doesn’t fully get the context. It’s a little rough because as a TH-camr who wants to keep his audience he can’t really outright say “that’s not a good question for me, ask Zajge.”
@@Shane_A_Mfrankly the last thing I want is another genshin CC who quibbles at me over spreadsheets. I watch jello specifically because he’s not that. As a player in the middle between causal and meta, I want someone who spends hours testing teams to just tell me what feels best in practice, because 9/10 times that will trump a technically more optimal rotation
8:18 i never realized how good fischl’s application is. literally every time overload was triggered electro was immediately applied again.
So Fischl has standard icd, so she only applies electro every 4 Oz hits. Her c6 provides coordinated attacks that share icd with Oz, so since Arlecchino normal attacks a lot, the electro app goes insane
@@dany08122 She also has A4 which triggers when an on-fielder triggers an Electro reaction and it always applies Electro (no icd) when it hits (up to once every 0.5s). This is why she's so good in Aggravate (+ it even counts as skill damage so it's buffed by 4GT).
@@dany08122don't overlook her A4 which has 0 ICD, so an electror reaction causes more electro application so its reactions upon reactions.
If you dash cancel the charged attack it absorbs her BOL while also letting you hit that first normal with max BOL and you don't have to wait for the cryo aura
With Sig, you just start the rotation with a non-cancelled charged attack and stack the BOL to carry on like normal
Yeah this
im pretty sure you should always start with a CA with sig then do e cause the 14s (i think) with allow you to get more bol per rotation?
Me with Hu Tao Vape, Mavuika Melt and Arlechino Overload.
Perfectly Balanced, as all thintgs should be. :D
Furina Yelan Xianyun Hu Tao
Mavuika Bennett Xilonen Citlali
Arlecchino Thoma Fischl Chevreuse
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Hu Tao, Xingqiu, Yelan, Zhongli
Mavuika, Rosalina, Bennet, Citlali
Arlecchino, Fischl, Chevreuse, Beidou
@Jello, wanted to say thanks for going through the rotation as part of the build guide. Appreciate it.
I think Alreechino could also catch up to Mavuika if there would be a dedicated bond of life support for her
What sigewinne was meant to be :(
Coping.
Arlecchino had Furina, Xilonen, Citlali, Kazuha, Yelan, Bennett and you are still saying she needs a dedicated support? Man, she already had the best support of the entire game.
@@RinHimeevelyn he meant dedicated support. The ones u mentioned are mostly universal lol. Mavuika has dedicated supports like xilonen, citlali tht works on nighsoul. But bond of life doesnt have enought buff.
@@SRIHARIS-zi1ngliterally
@@RinHimeevelyn Lmao seems like you're the one coping, mavuika litterly has support dedicated to her unique mechanic, while theres no supports that help with bond of life(at least currently) Furina,Bennett etc. aren't dedicated to her and if you're gonna compare mavuika and arlecchino with those universal supports that don't help with mavuika's machanic(xilonen, citlali etc.) arlecchino is obviously gonna be outclassing her
What I'm optimistic about is that Mavuika's best team is more or less set. Arlecchino for now shares the same best team with Mavuika but there is still room for growth since she doesn't have the Natlan "restriction" in team building. Flexibility is always a plus. Snezhnaya will eventually come. The Cryo archon will be interesting. I just hope that they don't follow the region restrictions trend like Natlan in team building for the forseeable future.
You can replace xilonen with tsaritsa in mavuika team if she ends up better then yeah, arlecchino will still below mavuika
Mavuika off field is insane, glad I pulled c1. Gonna make future melt cryo dps teams insane
I cannot imagine not having similar restrictions like in natlan. That's how they force players to pull. They won't drop that.
@ You're right. Unless they release a normal attack dedicated support for her.
Honestly, I do like the region uniqueness that comes with it. Natlan characters are already great outside their region, but within they do even better, so having Shneznaya characters do the same would be fine by me.
Unless it’s something similar to Dragonspine cold buildup in which case fuck outta here with that lmao
Also for those that still don't know how BoL works, it's basically a reverse shield, instead of soaking up damage, it soaks up healing; if you have 200 BoL you need 200 in healing to clear it. (Basically, the way its applied is different but thats the basic explanation).
Is it 200 healing or 200 instances of healing in this example? I've never had a BoL character before
@@sladevalen 200% of arles hp as healing
@@sladevalenif you have a character with 20,000 hp, and 100 BoL, you need to heal 20,000 to clear the BoL. Likewise, at 200 BoL you need to heal 40,000 hp. It’s not about instances of healing rather how much you heal
@@Fuzzer126 gotcha thanks for the heads up!
Even though I have Citlali, I’m gonna get Arle instead of Mavuika anyway just because I like Arle more as a character. I dislike the playstyle and aesthetic of the bike combat haha
I’m with you 100%. Arle is way cooler.
yah she looks goofy hha.
if she was in a busling sci fi city. that would have make more sence.
The reason why im grabbing my C2 Arle instead of Mauv, plus the drip is way better adnd also if you got her Sig, Scythe..... SCYTHE!
That’s fine but I think Mavs bike is awesome
Me tooooo @@damousx6860
Reading comments the whole Mavuika Vs Arlecchino thing kinda makes me hate a very vocal minority of the player base. I love both characters, and their play styles. But both sides are incredibly toxic and obnoxious and just blatantly lie to justify why their favorite is better.
One doesn’t need to tear down someone else’s favorite to justify their own. Play the characters you like, the game isn’t hard enough to justify prioritizing Meta. How characters rank on a tier list shouldn’t dictate who you play.
Additionally they can be played together and these are genuinely my favorite teams. They synergize really well and aren’t mutually exclusive due to Mavuika’s role flexibility.
Imo if you had to choose only one yeah I’d recommend Mavuika but really I don’t think having one excludes getting the other. Play who you like, pull the characters you love. Games are meant to be enjoyed. There’s nothing wrong with factoring in meta into your decision but when it gets to the point to ruining your enjoyment are leading you to act outwardly hostile towards people who’s opinion differs from your own you’ve gone too far and need to touch grass.
If your first response to that is to complain about either character, don’t, I’ve heard them all before and they’re all boring/ bad takes
Imo it goes like this, Arle is easier to play optimally, Mavuika is stronger and more flexible in terms of role, both need certain supports to feel their best but have a ton of options when it comes to team building. Mavuika has more mechanical depth but Arle has more flexibility when it comes to how you play her rotations due to preserving BOL between switches. Arle feels snappier, mavuika feels more powerful. Mavuika is easier to farm/ build for but you probably already have a decent Glad set for Arlecchino. They can use similar supports in their best teams but we have enough options to run both. Together I’ve gotten some of my fastest abyss times and separately they still feel amazing. You’ll have an easier time using NA related buffing characters like Yelan and XQ with Arle, but Mavuika can actually use Furina. Arlecchino has better self sustain with her Panic heal but Mavuika has a better nuke. There is more but my point is they both have their strengths and weaknesses. They play very different so don’t feel like you HAVE to pick one if you can’t decide. Don’t buy into the negativity on either side. If you like them, Get them, if not, don’t. They’re both strong enough that you won’t regret pulling either or both.
For real... they're both amazing characters and super fun. I'm pulling for Arlecchino after I just got Mavuika because they're both just awesome characters mechanically and design-wise. I don't know why this has to be a competition.
King you dropped this: 👑
the part i dislike about this powercreep is that not only is mav better by a significant margin but she also steals all of arles best team's supports, on top of that she is a support for multiple teams, like wtf hoyo ( arle is still my favourite character across all hoyo games, hoping to get her c2 this rerun with 20 pulls, all hail father)
Edit : the same people who bitch about hsr by saying it has powercreep are now defending the same thing in genshin, gacha players are certainly people of all time
They're both bound to share the same team since, they're both pyro, they're both ATK scaling, and they both have nuke bursts. What do you expect?
The only difference between them is their playstyle and additional mechanics like Phlogiston and Bond of Life. Your preference about them will be the deciding factor who you'd want to play with.
So 'sharing' is a more appropriate word than 'stealing' since you're not forced to play both of them with their best teams, unless you're extremely petty about damage numbers.
@@josephusaquila ah yes i love "sharing" my teammates on both sides of abyss, also i love "sharing" my teammates with a character that will inherently output less dps than the other character with same investment, make it make sense. also about the first part of "what do we expect" will be to make her numbers in line with arle as she already has upsides in terms of being a support and can be healed as well, this way she wont be overpowered while still have upsides but now she is just overpowered and has all the upsides too, anyways you can have your own perspective, ima not argue further, peace
@@hachiman205tbf you don’t normally want the same element on both sides, or it’s very rare that you do. But I do agree it’s annoying
BoL niche support copium atp
you will get it bro 🔥
About melt combo: ypu actually can cancel your charged attack with dash. This way Arli still gets BoL, but does not consume cryo with her charged attack. So, you can do your 5 normals right away. It needs practice and does not save you too much time, but maybe it will help someone =)
People seem to forget that Theater exists. You want both characters.
Quick heads up as I didn't see you mention it in the video so far (I haven't fully finished it yet, and probably won't have the time to do so in 1 go): Instead of charged attack-ing to claim the BoL and waiting for the cryo aura to reappear, I've found it much better to cancel the charged attack halfway through the animation, thus claiming the BoL without applying pyro, allowing you to start attacking, without having to wait and idly sit by. Also, as someone who isn't much of a Xilonen fan, to anyone that isn't either, replacing her with Sucrose can be a good alternative
It was going to happen lol. No shot they release a stronger pyro dps before Natlan's own pyro unit. I see the same thing happening with Skirk if they make her a Cryo dps instead of an early access element for Nod Krai (doubt), Snezhnaya will have their own Cryo power creep dps.
Snezhnaya is bound to Be Cryo Powercreep.
I don't even think many people will complain considering the state of Cryo.
@@HarshitSinghRajput And I'm all for it. I'm waiting for my Cryo DPS. Got Ayaka in her first banner, will never use her. Considered Wrio, but may change my mind (I dunno).
I have a DPS for every element by now, I just need a Cryo one, I hope they release a drippy and fun Cryo DPS in Snezhnaya.
@@josephusaquila I am pretty much the Same.
I have Ayaka, Ganyu and I just don't find the Opportunity to use them.
If Only they allow Shatter to Auto trigger on boss since those can't be frozen.
@HarshitSinghRajput Well of course not, cryo is ass
Hu Tao main for the longest time. Then Arlechinno and now Mavuika. I still use all 3 and rotate among them for fun , they have their own artefacts built and do not share the artefacts. Hu Tao by virtue of being longest with me, has 3 full sets of artefacts : Crimson, Shimenawa and Marechaussee with Furina. Shim is the most consistent damage and overall stats, but I like the MH build with Furina although a bit weird.
The MH built could be put on my Neuv but best longest time girl gets the prettiest shiniest things.
I am just a pyro main and a simp for red fiery ladies.
> c6'ed the character when it came out
> anything i saw would just fking die
> left playing in natlan coz still no skip button
Make longer guides like these! We love these!!
At this point the powercreep conversation needs to be had in genshin. It does exist. Though it barely affects gameplay, it makes you jump through multiple hoops in the form of teambuilding/elemental restrictions for the end game. It's the opposite of HSR, where characters are unusable in one game mode but great in the other, and difficulty is managed via hp increases. You could argue that a straight up dps increase is harder to keep up with. On the other hand, you could also argue that having annoying mechanics that arbitrarily lower your potential dps is equally frustrating, since the abyss is meant to test your account's strength, and some bosses stop you from doing that. In any case, I want people to stop ruling out powercreep in genshin, because ignoring it doesn't help.
Not a pc cuz dat would mean peruere is obsolete
@ACatThatCantSing ima be honest and people are really gonna dislike this one but I've never had problem keeping up with endgame in hsr Or any frustration at all being completely f2p no eidolons but in genshin, to this day i get frustrated by them putting these stupid bosses that want you to have exact elements or now it's even absurd with these matlan units, in hsr for me, once I was able to get two teams after that it was smooth sailing since getting new teams and characters is infinitely easier ngl. That's just my perspective, people can argue what they want for their favourite game but as someone who enjoys both I say this in most unbiased way as possible.
@@hachiman205 you say its absurd with the natlan units, do you mean the characters or the papilla boss with the shield? If the latter then you don't even need natlan characters for it.
Not saying it's you in particular, but Abyss is fine, so many players complain they want tough then those same players complain when it's hard.
@vgnrnr well because the difficulty that players want is not elemental or unit checks and time gating shit but rather having enemies that atk frequently and hit hard and you get rewarded for doding. Now genshin is not wuwa or zzz type of game but you can't defend the fact that they purposely make these bosses to sell new units, how blatant they gotta be till people see it lmao, look at abyss blessings and bosses, they all want specific elements or natlan units that are featured on banner every patch my guy, don't even get me started on theatre, it's the worst mode ever released, if that's your concept of "difficulty" then be it but to me it screams greed on their part.
@@vgnrnr also what units can even break papilla? C6 fischl? Lol
Chiori/Albedo dont interfere with your melts.
Since pyro clears cryo with one hit, even if you crystallize and weaken your cryo, youre still getting one melt out of every cryo application.
Citlali is totally fine in an arlecchino team.
Arlecchino's and Clorinde's Drip needs to be studied
dont understand why people upset about other characters are being stronger than their favourite character.
its not like arlechino's damage reduced by mavuika or some shit, isnt it even better that you can go for another stronger character when you want to ?
i love arlechino, but i didnt like mavuika at all. And if there is stronger character came out that i really like! im definetely gonna get that character since my arlechino wont just disapear bcos of that
thanks for making this video Jello, i've been wondering about the finer differences between mavuika and arlecchino. i really don't like mavuika's bike and considering to get arlecchino instead, so it's nice to have this comparison. my only other reliable pyro dps is yoimiya and as much as i love her she struggles so much with mobs. (there's also the badly built yanfei and slapdash gaming but they're mostly only there for IT at this point, can't really keep up with abyss with them even when i steal good artifacts for them from other characters...)
7 months ago when i first started to play i once stumbled upon a short of Arlechinno and i loved her ever since. Mavika is beautiful and kind but i just love Arlechinno's design and play style more even if she is power creeped . Skipped mavuika for her and i regret nothing. Arlechinno's White/silver hair , her clothes and her red black eyes , her heels , her idle her attack animation and the colors, the snap during her burst i love everything about her .
I think people forget the fact as well that arle can instantly get into range of the enemies whereas many other main dps Carrie’s struggle with that (except neuvy)
3:44 sounds like wherever you managed to get this conclusion is very much stretching their finding to the moon there.
C0 Mavuika being closer to C2 Arlecchino is just untrue.
The last time I do spreadsheet impact on the two at C0R1 + Citlali Xilonen Bennett, the difference between them is like 1.9m DPR for mav(18s rot, 4ca melt) and 1.4m DPR for arlecc(16s rot, 6 melt).
accounting for the rotation time, the overall dps between the two is like less than 20% apart.
Arlecchino C1 worth about 25% at the very very least, so that alone already make up for the difference.
Also regarding Whimsey vs Gladiator, the difference is only about 5-7% dps, on citlali sigr1+ bennett(c6) + xilo team.
Just 1 or 2 substat roll could be the tiebreaker between which of the two is better for your account.
You test in abbys. Not on Excel
@@DanielDwiCahyaPutraAnggaraThis made me chuckle too hard for my own good.
Well, you said it yourself. Spreadsheet Impact. Or better said, the place where Arlecchino scams the most out of every other character and everybody knows it (but sure, 80K DPS with White Tassel and KQMS levels of investment, suuuuuuuure).
There is a reason why C0 Arlecchino is considered overrated even by those who speedrun with her.
In speedruns, Mavuika C0R1 is beating C1R1 Arlecchino without the 75% DMG bonus and she also doesn't scam with constellations on her supports like Arlecchino has always done since her release (Kazuha, Furina, Yelan... all C2 "somehow").
And just as a note: before Citlali, Arlecchino was nowhere near Navia's best times, yet if you tell people that Navia is a monster they would laugh because Excel Impact doesn't show it.
I think i would rather listen to the guy who build and test every single character to help me decide who to wish for and build
@@gamesdivision6511 he himself is using data from spreadsheet calculation to make this very conclusion.
so it's only fair to question it with the same methodology.
I fear we get the Star Rail powercreep
If you ever read this, I i do appreciate that even though you are still firmly positive overall for Genshin, you are not afraid to call out the problems and negatives in Hoyo's approach with releasing and designing characters. These issues also apply to the other Hoyoverse games, but are especially magnified when they affect Genshin since it's the poster child of their brand. I do enjoy Genshin still, but my enthusiasm is definitely much more tempered over the last year due to their decisions.
Getting her Signature weapon does change the gameplay in that it alters how you do the rotations for Citlali melt!
"I just cooked" the revelation was hilarious as it dawn on him.
The impromptu yun jin sneak (pretty good tho ngl)
The 5 frames of hydration at 6:24 lmao
There’s power creep- but if you are doing Mauv signature team on one side, you can do Arl on the other with her aggravate team. They don’t necessarily need to compete
Aggravate? Did you mean Overload perhaps?
@@doug3454 He got brain-deaded; by Jello's glazing of Clorinde.
Going GT with Yae Miko along Chevreuse and Arlec doesn't require you a Fischl since you don't care about her burst, therefore you can use bennet, if you are using Fischl plus Yae you can use GD instead. Also unlike many weakness of Fischl in Arlechinno's team, Yae does not need you to pre-summon Oz to gain the bullet for Chevy because you are placing the 3 turrets anyways, the amount of field time used will be the same for the first rotation. The second thing is Yae's random turret hits and burst helps you to overload Shred everything not just the target you are hitting without range issues.
Sorry I dont need a father, I need a queen. My Clorinde
Power creep this power creep that. I pulled for both and I’m ABSOLUTELY loving them
Didnt pull for mavuika because her gameplay and kit are so boring. Im enjoying the game with my arle so im the winner.
Her personality is boring af too 😭
Because normal attack simulator is more fun than a literal bike…
@@joeltoomer3332 mfw people have opinions
@@joeltoomer3332 that bike is ridiculously goofy, and so out of place. Speaking as someone with C2R1 Mavuika, she's great for meta, but doesn't feel as fun as someone like Tartaglia or Arlecchino. In my opinion of course.
@@NyanihyonI feel so out of place in this community for loving the hell out of that bike lol, it’s just so much fun. idk
In melt with citlali you can do 5NA D or 3NA D (second has more consistent cryo aura, but more stamina consuming), also you can dash cancel her CA to not apply pyro and you don't have to waste time waiting for cryo aura. Source: zajef's video
My favorite Arle comp to run is the wheel chair comp with Xilonen and C1 Chiori. Last slot is either Bennet or TTDS Charlotte depending on the content. Xilonen empowers both Arlecchino and Chiori with her res shred, especially Chiori since she hits harder while Arle destroys everything on-field.
As for Mavuika vs. Arle...well despite of Mavuika powercreeping everyone, I'm still going to use her as a sub dps holding cinder for my Kinich or Mualani as a replacement for Xiangling. No need to worry about er issue from Xiang anymore ^^
In a game where you can clear the abyss using only 4 star characters, power creep although present is very subtle so if you like a character wish on it and if you don’t just save.
Build well, understand the kit and practice. Jello always makes sure to show the highs and lows of every character and in the end highlight that you should pull for the character you like. 36 stars with 10s more or less will get you the same amount of rewards in the end.
I saw a vid of someone clearing with 3 four star characters using 4 star weapons both sides, there is powercreep on genshin but its very low in comparison to hsr
u mean c6 4stars right no way u clear abyss with c0 4 stars its easier to get c0 5 star than c6 4 stars
@@skyfires4499 ahh yeah i double checked they were c6 but its still 3 characters each side, most people have a few cons on their 4 stars and have some 5 stars theyve pulled. Theres no excuse not to beat both sides with a 4 man team as long as you figure out what to do
@ well u can definitely do it but after a million resets , busted arifacts and more importantly c6 4 stars but y struggle so much just get 5 star dps
@@skyfires4499 right im just saying its possible even without c6 four stars, of course you need well built characters to beat it or there would be no point to farming artifacts. You can definitely beat it without broken characters too with enough knowledge, nobody should expect to beat the end game content with a newish account
I think you're underselling 4pc Glad on arle - you can easily be in the top of the akasha leaderboards with a 4pc Glad build (current highest is 3rd). I've been passively farming glad for 4 years, other people have been at it longer, it will be a looooooooong time in the BoL domain to beat my glad pieces. (i did farm it until 5.0 came out)
the reasons i hold back to pull for her is:
1.with release of mavuika next meta dps's would be stronger to convince ppl for pulling
2.already have c2 r1 mavuika in main account and c0r0 arlechino in secound account
3.dosent have infinite primos so i must planing for spend
but i love arlechino,she is insanly strong,her sound effects and fighting style is amazing and for me she stand side by side with mavuika.
and i think she is better for f2p players,she works with alot of teams and can work with future characters.
thats my opinions,have a nice day❤
the reason i got mavuika ( also citlai ) aside form the fact that she has some supporting capabilities is that i can play her in her best team on one side and still play hutao on her best team on the other because both of their supports don't crash ( like with arlecchino )
teams, hutao yelan furina xilonen and mavuika citlali kazuha bennet ( also kazuha and bennet got some use on my account now )
you can jump cancel the first charged attack so you dont have to wait for the cryo application.
The person who asked "is it guaranteed that you loss you 50/50 to other signature weapon?", I think they meant if u lose the 5050 r u guaranteed to lose it to the other sig weapon featured on the banner and not to another 5 star weapon that isn't featured
Is Shev's c6 buff gonna work on Arle? Written that it needs to heal proc to have buff, but arle cant be healed
3:06 they both want Neuvillette?!
They both desire him in bed
its xilonen i think
Yeah, xilonen. Probably misspoke.
A wise man once said," Oh don't forget this the staff of the scarlett sands. It's a very powerful weapon...try it
Arlecchino's future prospects are greater than mavuikas since mavuika uses natlan characters. Who many new natlan character are going to come out? I have enjoyed arlecchino citlali bennett rosalia team. That team uses two 4 stars who could get 5 star versios in future especially in cryo nation. Sure mavuika is clearly stronger but as someone who has arlecchino c1s1 getting one mavuika is same as c2 arlecchino. If mavuika had normal energy then I could have used mavuika with raiden since my only two 5 star dps characters are arlecchino and raiden. I have cyno too but let's not count that. I have both citlali and xilonen but my habit is use them separately. Citlali with arlecchino and xilonen with raiden double hydro teams. If abyss is hard counter to hydro then I use chevreuse c6 team with than floor. I think I'm not going to pull any main dps characters anymore good thing I have all support that I need finally.
Arle future aspect would be sitting in the bench because her dumarse cant compete with the other dpses. While mav will be a solid off field pyro and cinder bot
@@gautham6981 Only with natlan characters. Any new supports after natlan does nothing to her. We have her best team which is going to be her best team to game's end. Arlecchino at least have change to get new supports who work well with her. For examble bond of live support or next cryo off-field with citlali who grands crit damage buffs for normal attacks.
Is arle c1 worth it if you have Citlali with sig?
Clorinde update guide soon
"Why would skirk not have a vision?" Someone wasn't paying attention to the story
They wish she has quanta powers as if she's from HSR where they don't have visions lol
Why tho
ill just say this, I have a Hu Tao that I got during her first banner and she is so well built and high invested in that she easily outperforms my arle who I got today. Both of them have 240+ artifact CV with hu tao's being slightly higher. As a F2P I would say for sure that if u hv a character that u well invest in, build teams around it, get Constellations and weapons they become really good. Not to be mean or anything but I feel power creep matters when u r speed running n setting world records and at that point u r a C6R5 person, for an avg player both Mavuika and Arle r gonna clear the abyss within 90s with a gap of barely 5-10s which honestly u can't even notice so ATP I feel everyone is freaking out abt Arle getting power crept, which honestly doesn't matter.
If you’re doing a team with arle Benny xilo and Citlali it’s super beneficial to use archaic Petra on Xilo so you don’t have the two on cinder city
I got really lucky and pulled two copies of Lumidouce Elegy back to back giving me the ultimate Arle-Emilie burning team. I can highly recommend getting a super lucky double pull of Emilie’s weapon lol.
I love Arle with Emilie! Maybe not her strongest meta wise, but who cares, for me it is the most fun.
Timestamps would be awesome. Because i don't have Mavuika or Citlali and Xilonen(the Easy-Mode-Carries). And it's hard to see/hear everything is fine or perfect if u have both of them.
So the only informations i need is about F2p and not whale stuff. Even your old footage is with a Arlecchino higher than c0, right?!
What really helps was the Teambuilding and Artefactsection of the video! I mean this is very important! A big thank u for this sections. ^^
i think the person who would skip skirk if she has a vision is either saying they want her to have abyss powers or for whatever reason want her to have a delusion or just have a reason to have vision powers without the vision
As someone who had Arlecchino before Mavuika, Arlecchino is still my second best dps so I still use her without question. Since I use both of them in the abyss I need to balance their teams since they share teammates in their bis teams, so I use: Mavuika, Xilonen, Furina, and Citlali, and Arlecchino, Yelan, Bennett, and Sucrose. Which is the original Arlecchino team I built after getting her that got me through the abyss. Having c0r1 Mavuika and c1r0 Arlecchino, Mavuika's rotation feels so much easier to play especially since she can't be interrupted and can be healed. Arlecchino's inability to heal without her burst imo in the leading factor to Mavuika feeling way more comfy to play. I really hope than Lan yan is able to bring up the qol of a vv vaporize Arlecchino team, especially since it's a lot less premium of a team that is still insanely good.
9:46 Yes, Arle can be buffed without mauvika getting buffed. Mauvika have natlan support which she needs, Arle would get **Bond of life** supports at some point
Thanks for the guide! I have c2 mauv but ima get arlec anyway because Father. Mauv will prob be a really good sub dps/support for her anyway with res shred ring and buffs
Ooh I like the idea of Raiden with Arle! For an EM Bot tenacity with Raiden, would you want an EM goblet as well or electro damage goblet still?
For the topic of an unit that can buff Arlecchino and not mavuika, I was thinking about it the other day, and all we need is actually an electro unit made for overload and bond of life. That would buff both clorinde and Arlecchino in cheveroise team.
Mavuika Is harder to buff. Unless they made a natlan only 5*Bennet.
Arlechinno playstyle is so much more fun, easy to understand, and versatile though
Zajef77's opinion about Clorinde -
"She just exists. She's the best mid character"
You also can dash from charged atk and if you have signature use charged before skill it’s better rotation and that’s the reason why you couldn’t play kaeya melt
And the better combo is N3D and then if you are out of stamina N5D
I just like the fact that Arlecchino has no self-rotation and her BoL is not affected by time. I can still 36-star the current abyss without Mavuika, Xilonen, Ororon, Neuvillette.
who tf needs Ororon to 36 star?? Neuv isn't even good this abyss. Not like he can't clear, but not like he's the meta for this one...
@@cbrudder84 either suanni or the whole second half pwns him, unfortunately. I tried various non-natlan combinations, but doesn't seem possible to time it good. Maybe with Raiden, dunno, don't have her.
@alexmelik4030 hyperbloom works amazingly for 2nd half, even the f2p 4 star versions don't have an issue with it. The only natlan units that can deal well with papilla are kinich and chasca.
@@me-me3126 I know, I used Nahida for that. I was talking specifically about Neuvilette.
@@cbrudder84 Exactly.
your video are awesome thx you so much
Razor language : skill > mark on enemies> switch to others > mark becomes bigger > charged atks for big dmg> Burst to reset ... repeat !
regarding double cryo with rosaria, i don't know for sure but i guess that you think other people overestimate rosaria dmg, because you don't use her with 5* crit Weapon, and also because you don't count citlali's weapon that will buff rosaria's dmg also . and very probable (if using ttds citlali) you rotation doesn't allow rosaria to obtain Cinder city buff, or citlali doesn't melt, or rosaria doesn't have bennet buff.... with citlali weapon i think that best character rotation order is bennet, citlali, rosaria and arle - with ttds on citlali you cannot do it, and rosaria will not have at least CC buff but also citlali weapon buff.
i guess that at C0R1 levels (c6 for rosaria) it all depends on the enemy, if it has 30%+ resistances than xilonen is better, if 20%- resistances - than rosaria is better. i will find out myself when i will obtain and build arle during this banner.
I rolled on her banner just to get c6 chevreuse, at zero pity, i got father at 40 pulls, then THE VERY NEXT PULL got her again. now i have c2 arlecchino, and her weapon. all i wanted was chev, ended up with the strongest dps with one her best constellations. Genshin loves me more than you, ama
Tbh at this point it feels like we need Yunjin Pro Max for extra ASPD and Normal Attack DMG in order to bring Arle and Ayato back to relevance. And in Ayato's case I guess having a really good Normal Attack sword could work too, but we literally just got one and it didn't really change much. And it's hard to make something that is somehow better than Jade Cutter or Haran, or in Arlecchino's case better than PJWS, Homa or her sig.
Personally I still like Arlecchino a lot. The freedom to just swap off of her whenever without losing uptime is insane QoL. And Mavuika's reliance on Natlan characters is kind of crippling in my eyes, even if I do have the characters she needs. I just wish they didn't both need Benny. I guess you could run Arle in a Chev comp without Benny? Idk, it feels like her dmg would drop off a cliff though
Tbh I think the worst issue with her is just that you can't heal her and have to constantly wander around with an incomplete health bar. Just give her a thirty second and very significant damage cut if you heal her. Solves it.
For buffing Arlecchino in future they can introduce a character which gives BOL (bond of life) to the Arlecchino, as 200% Arle can easily comparable with Mavuika
It's tough that Arle and Mavuika overlap so much. Thankfully either can play melt, vape or Chevy. Mav wanting Natlan chars but also the only one who can utilize Furina makes it even more tough lol.
Hey! Thanks for all these tips!
I have her and love to use in an Overload team. My team is Chevruse, Raiden and Thoma. I saw you made some comments in this team. Do you have another video explaining this comp better? I don't know how to build the Raiden in particular (atack or EM? Which artifact?)
It's okay to refer another video of yours, someone else or link some reference that I can look for
use 4pc tenacity of the millileth on raiden, and go em/em/em for main stats and dragons bane
@@codeinefiendjay7704
+ Chevruse on cinder city artifacts with 40k hp
Thanks!!!
Could someone please explain to me why Bennet is considered broken when his value relies so heavily on his burst? I have managed to get his EM and ER to a point where he would burst every rotation but he still needs to normal attack a bunch to get it there which is both wasteful and dangerous when he’s on field hitting giant bosses with a tiny stick while I wait for his burst to fill up.
if youre pulling a dps for meta, this might not be the best time when (i PRAY) a new element is coming out with skirk
why would they release a new element in the middle of a region/version? that makes 0 sense
Only thing matters Arle is SS character power creep or not. A difference of 5 sec clear don't rly matter I'm a Dehya main Don't know I have these Pyro monsters with signature weapon.Arle at C1
Saved the most important question for last
6:54 the reasoning behind if arlecchino ever feels bad in the abyss then so does every other DPS in the abyss do too, while it is kinda true but most of the time not exactly.
They can just put an 80% pyro resistance enemy on the abyss and it will only affect Mavuika and Arlecchino. That's the genuis behind Mavuika evil but Genuis she has Xilonen and Citlali while reaching higher DPS than arlecchino.
But if Hoyo ever wants to shut her down in favor of other elements they can just make citlali not able for proc Freeze or Melt on the enemy and Xilonen not able to use the cinder city buff for pyro and in that case if would just be close to even with Arleccino and Mavuika
This is when a "Mid" character like Clorinde even tho not reaching the highest high but is an Electro and versatile element which would not care much for the Pyro resistance Or needing Citlali. As example Clorinde plays well Vs papilla better than Arlecchino without the pyro buff.
Also Navia vs Geo shield with her claymore and Geo element.
"If you don't have Citlali, she will rerun"
Jello come on man, don't jinx it like that. You know how Hoyo treats Cryo units.
Personally, i have both, mavuika has her weapon and arle has the PJWS, and arlecchino feels more comfortable ~overall~. Because mavuika is a bit less amazing at multi-target and against enemies that move a lot (in case you miss her burst hit orz), and arlecchino doesn't hit like a truck but does go around like a racing car bumping on everyone without much effort. I feel like mavuika is stronger! But arle is just easier for me. Also, my arle fav team is C6 Benny, C6 Candace and a shielder (citlali is good, but zhongli or layla with tenacity are good enough that the abyss slips by no problem), with mavuika I feel like she's a bit more attached to having either xilonen or citlali. This is just how i feel, the overall comfort and not about just the damage, I love them both soooo much
Please, advise:
- 2 week old acc, AR 34
- zero 5*
- out of good 4* Bennet, Sucrose + free ones
- no 5* artifacts, barely any decent 4*
- am far from Natlan content
Who is better in this situation, Arle or Mav?
it really doesn't matter. genshin doesn't become challenging until very late into the game, and your circumstances will have changed by then. you are far away from having to worry about meta and tier lists and who's stronger/better. literally just pull for anyone you like more
Since you’re far from Natlan, I’d say arlecchino. Mavuika is a bit reliant on having natlan characters on the team(although there is the free kachina and pyro traveler as options)
If you want long term versatility, I’d say mavuika, since she’s able to be both on and off field damage dealer. But if you go mavuika I’d say you want to get xilonen or Citlali eventually.
You could go with this team for either pyro dps:
Arlecchino/mavuika
Sucrose(use VV set and swirl pyro. Could also use Lanyan for that since she’s on arlechino’s banner and during lantern rite)
Bennett
(A couple different options, id recommend a hydro, cryo, or electro off field character for reaction damage)
If you see this too late to pull mavuika during this banner, I’d say arlecchino is definitely a more versatile option for where you are in the game at the moment. If you still want mavuika on her rerun(could be around banners 5.6-5.7?) you’ll be able to make the decision then
Edit: to repeat what the previous commenter said, pull for who you want more, this is just to help you if you are completely undecided
@@m_milos you say that, but my units are getting 2-3 shot even at just world level 3 because I don't have enough mats to level them/their artifacts to a decent level
@helicopterhatguy thank you! I lost my 50/50 to Keqing on 78 pulls on Mavuika. Is it realistic to get 90 pulls in the time Arle banner will be up for f2p?
@@Seikenguy since your account is new, it should be enough time and there’s plenty of primos to be found from exploration. Plus, lantern rite is coming up so that will be more primos.
I also recommend you look into redeem codes to get some easy primos if you haven’t already. You should be able to find info on TH-cam about them.
Well, we are going next to Snezhnaya, so I think we could have some Bond of Life buffers, we don't have support for that yet, so that could raise the bar for Arle without touching Mavu. I don't care, I don't like Arle, but that's what I think would be the easiest way to give a strong buff, if other carries will use Bond of Life there too (although I'm not a fan of the mechanic).
Got Mona. I can't handle this anymore. 🛌
It's like if you owned the highest-rated theme park in the world, and then you debuted another really cool roller coaster the same day a competitor opened down the street with a new theme park that makes yours look outdated and replaces it as the highest-rated theme park. Was it a good day for your park?
But I don’t like the ride that makes me spin around in a circle, so that theme park is dead to me 🤷♂️
It's not dat bad yet not like hsr💀💀💀
I did pull Clorinde on her 1st banner and got her C1 almost by accident and I'm so happy with her gameplay that I think I will go for her C2 while trying to get chev C6
Doesnt arlecino get a vape team buff with anemo shielder
Why is there no time stamps😭
Why do you hate Kujou Sara so much? Talked about all these overload teams, but didn't bring her up as even a sub-optimal option even once, even as a replacement for Bennet. I know some people find her clunky, but esp at C6 she's absolutely not weak, especially in OL teams.
C6 Sara is excellent in Raiden teams including OL and TCers complaining about her clunkiness have skill issue. People should get out of the EQ mindset.
6:23 Water bottle jumpscare
Arlecchino got Acheron'd.
Both waifus, both are red, black and white, both are associated with death
Both got powercrept💪
Acheron is way more unusable without her premium team and is struggling to clear endgame while Arle still clears pretty effortlessly, we're not quite there yet
@@T-------- Just saying she's got powercrept before her first rerun.
Unrelated to the video question, but how much resin does one need to spend on average to have a somewhat good build I am asking this because I started playing a little before natlan release and got a lot of characters I want to build but not much time to do so! To name a few: Mavuika, Clorinde, Nahida, Neuvilette. (I currently have 0 primogems because i used all on clorinde which is my fav character playstyle wise but I intend to futurely get Citlali, Furina and Xilonen if I manage to get enough primos) So far I only have "decently" built Kazuha, Raiden, and some 4 stars like bennett and xingqiu.