The Bryce Harper at First Base Experiment

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  • @griffinhays2053
    @griffinhays2053 ปีที่แล้ว +517

    Harper at 1B should be a +8 run value just for getting Schwarber out of left

  • @thomasg2488
    @thomasg2488 ปีที่แล้ว +485

    Harper hit 21 HRs, .293 avg, .401 OBP and 146 OPS+ in just a little over 120 games coming off this surgery. That's pretty damn impressive

    • @37willdog
      @37willdog ปีที่แล้ว +72

      Even more impressive when you consider there was a two-month stretch this season where he hit 0 homers

    • @bradywright0408
      @bradywright0408 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      And he only had 5 homers entering August too, he was pretty much just an OBP + Singles guy until then

    • @sneersh9107
      @sneersh9107 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@37willdog Longest stretch of his whole career without a HR

    • @Ohjgfdghjfu
      @Ohjgfdghjfu ปีที่แล้ว

      Overrated player

    • @anthonyestrada8262
      @anthonyestrada8262 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      21 HRs after getting none for like 3 months is remarkable

  • @DniawSirhc
    @DniawSirhc ปีที่แล้ว +865

    I can’t believe Ichiro’s throw on Terrence Long isn’t a throw that you just think about Bailey, very disappointed

    • @ThomasBaxter
      @ThomasBaxter ปีที่แล้ว +79

      When someone says "throw" that's the one that always jumps to mind.

    • @extraclone
      @extraclone ปีที่แล้ว +16

      fr, it's iconic

    • @bcb76
      @bcb76 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Yup - that throw and Bo Jackson's throwing out Reynolds.

    • @vranthis
      @vranthis ปีที่แล้ว

      Bo jackson too, monster throw a bit flat footed. (he is not fully behind the pitch) Shit is crazy. That throw really makes you understand how strong he was. th-cam.com/video/m4CHqb-CHJI/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=MLB
      Edit: I added the link. Enjoy !

    • @coopershira7504
      @coopershira7504 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      And all the cespedes throws

  • @raymondbaum5410
    @raymondbaum5410 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    Same thing for Mookie Betts at 2nd base. With Mookie being able to play 2B when a RHP starts, it allows the Dodgers to put their best lineup on the field by putting Jason Heyward in RF. He's been both fantastic offensively and defensively this year for LA.

    • @carsonpicard1973
      @carsonpicard1973 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Exactly what I was thinking the whole time, in the Acuna vs Betts debate, Betts’ versatility greatly helps roster construction and that aspect can’t be measured by WAR
      I still think it’s Acuna though

    • @TryPuttingItInRice
      @TryPuttingItInRice ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@carsonpicard1973Betts so much better

    • @briansolo
      @briansolo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As a Braves fan, I've really enjoyed J-Hey's resurgence this season. The fact that he gets to spend it with Freddie makes it more than that; it makes the idea heartwarming 🙂

  • @laynecouri4182
    @laynecouri4182 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    rojas has been great as a rookie too. not just defensively but had a lot of timely hits along with hitting for average and great at running the bases.

    • @fatdingo8251
      @fatdingo8251 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ik he’s slowed down lately, but Pache has been great too tbh

    • @wesfry03
      @wesfry03 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fatdingo8251pache has been a beast against lefties. Marsh needs to start but I’m torn between who should be in center

    • @Chris-xt8io
      @Chris-xt8io ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@wesfry03marsh will be in left and Rojas will be in center to help Casty

    • @sawmill035
      @sawmill035 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Let's put it this way -- Rojas could have an OPS of .600 and still be a net positive player. He is that outstanding in center.
      Honestly, it has been incredible to watch. He is better than a young Shane Victorino, and I do not say that lightly.

  • @Andrew-bd8dc
    @Andrew-bd8dc ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Another note on Harper is that his power hadn’t returned basically at all until mid-August. He’s been crushing the ball ever since then and is peaking at the perfect time for the Phils to make another run at the World Series.

    • @sneersh9107
      @sneersh9107 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Bryce is HUNGRY I have no doubt about it

  • @aaronstreitenberger6012
    @aaronstreitenberger6012 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    This is the type of stuff you can only dream happens. A star player gets injured and then learns a new position so the whole team can be better. Harper has always been a stud, this just adds to his continuing legend. I have no dog in the fight anymore but Harper will be fun to watch!

  • @DixieRect
    @DixieRect ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Harper's power also came back not too long after switching to 1B. Dude had a couple monstrous power surges these past 2-3 months

  • @craned
    @craned ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Another banger of a main channel vid. Keep it up, Bailey.

  • @JamieAtSLC
    @JamieAtSLC ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I think it might be unprecedented for someone to make a video about a player learning 1B without making a Ron Washington reference.

    • @zaviera-b1617
      @zaviera-b1617 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Would you say that doing so is...incredibly hard?

  • @kennythekid130
    @kennythekid130 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    1:30 Ichiro throwing a laser beam to 3rd is the greatest outfield throw i will ever see

  • @aiz1941
    @aiz1941 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great way to explain concisely, towards the end, how Bryce Harper playing First Base helps the team, but not neccesarily himself. People always talk about how valuable it is to have players who can play different positions, but it's rare to see such a clear example of why it is valuable.

    • @garak55
      @garak55 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah and for a guy who is/was consistently derided as a primadona, that's a real team first move, especially now that he already signed the big contract.

    • @aiz1941
      @aiz1941 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@garak55 I agree that Harper has been at times unfairly criticized. But I don't know about the last part of your statement.
      I would argue it is easier to sacrifice your own stats for the team when you already got paid. Coming back faster from injury and playing an unfamiliar position can potentially make your stats look worse and give you disadvantage negotiating a free agent deal. But he doesn't need to worry about that and all that is left is to win a world series.

  • @Ethan_Coble
    @Ethan_Coble ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It makes me happy to see Harper on the Phillies... His energy just perfectly suits the energy that the whole crowd brings and that his team has. Can't help but feel like he's the catalyst that causes ALL of the hype. He truly has tthe perfect competetor's mindset when out on the field man, and it's damn fun to watch. Rooting for the Phils this post season.

  • @no_reason2755
    @no_reason2755 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    you should consider doing a video about Brenton Doyle and Nolan Jones for the rockies, outfield assist record for a rookie duo and the hardest throwing center and left fielder by a mile. Doyle hit 105.7 to hold a runner, and Jones hit 102.7 to throw someone out

    • @no_reason2755
      @no_reason2755 ปีที่แล้ว

      Doyle's defensive numbers in general are insane, hes a 99 99 99 and overall 100 on baseball savant for defense

    • @chinopinowarrior9022
      @chinopinowarrior9022 ปีที่แล้ว

      Doyle is the funniest player in MLB right now. He's singlehandedly the best non-cactcher defender and worst hitter in baseball. They balance each other out to 0.9 in both WARs.
      He's last in wRC+ for his number of PA and it's not even close
      43 wRC+ - Doyle
      60 wRC+ - Tim Anderson
      60 wRC+ - Brice Turang
      61 wRC+ - Javy Baez

  • @austinjohnson9059
    @austinjohnson9059 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Yoenis Cespedes throw when he was on the A’s was insane too

  • @jacobjuenger4454
    @jacobjuenger4454 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great video Bailey! love the more direct narrative style you do here on your main channel, you've gotten way better at it since I started watching you a couple years ago :)

  • @dannytrainor5834
    @dannytrainor5834 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is my Super Bowl. Thank you Bailey

  • @TheTEN24
    @TheTEN24 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No vlad senior or ichiro throws mentioned is wild. Harper at 1st has worked out really well for the Phillies.

  • @jasonapearlman
    @jasonapearlman ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another interesting layer to the whole thing is that this change probably wouldn't have happened without Rhys Hoskin's injury. Harper moved to first not only because it was the only defensive position he could possibly play this year, but also because the Phillies had a real need for it. Before Harper came back they were playing Alec Bohm at first a lot, with Edmundo Sosa in the infield (and of course Schwarber in left) and it just wasn't close to ideal

  • @Supadupasebas
    @Supadupasebas ปีที่แล้ว +176

    I know this is an obvious 20/20 captain hindsight situation but the Yankees definitely should’ve went for Harper

    • @stephenperez5735
      @stephenperez5735 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      We get it

    • @mx4159
      @mx4159 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      It was obvious back then too

    • @Chooch4mvp
      @Chooch4mvp ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You could say that for every team, without hindsight😂

    • @Supadupasebas
      @Supadupasebas ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Chooch4mvp yeah but the “reasons” they didn’t sign which you’re 100% right about btw were bad then and outright dumb now

    • @caseypeanuts3222
      @caseypeanuts3222 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Harper was apparently volunteering to learn first base for the yankees. This is a great video but it also makes me depressed as a Yankee fan

  • @DannyOboy
    @DannyOboy ปีที่แล้ว +10

    As a Phillies fan having schwarber and Castellanos in the OF has been a painful experience I love Bryce at first for this team

    • @Tilt_TM
      @Tilt_TM ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Castellanos has been amazing in RF this season

    • @KLil37
      @KLil37 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Tilt_TMonly outfielder with no errors

  • @steampunk_willy
    @steampunk_willy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My problem with positional run adjustments has always been how it places too much trust in the competence of the manager to field the best team they can and punishes versatile players for offering roster flexibility.
    Take for instance the rookie Yainer Diaz (Astros) who can play C & 1B, but played 38 of his 104 games at DH. Dusty Baker played him only as a backup catcher and refused to bench Jose Abreu to work Diaz into the lineup. Bear in mind that Jose Abreu and Martin Maldonado have a combined 0.2 bWAR & -2.0 fWAR over a total of 257 games between them this year while Yainer Diaz has 3.2 bWAR & 2.0 fWAR in just 104 games playing primarily as a backup catcher and DH. Obviously, there's no way to credit a player for 40+ games they could have played if their manager wasn't benching them for being a rookie. However, penalizing a player for playing DH because that's the only other way his manager will give him playing time is absurd.

  • @sojournern
    @sojournern ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice, informative video. Thanks. Harper is the ultimate team player. The guy just wants to win, with every single thing that's all that's on his mind.

  • @wesfry03
    @wesfry03 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Idk the exact numbers but I’m pretty sure Harper is also #1 or 2 in wpa for the Phillies all season which is crazy considering everything he’s had to do

    • @lukecihak9860
      @lukecihak9860 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He’s #2 in the entire league

  • @bobbymoniz7657
    @bobbymoniz7657 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bailey, i just discovered your channel. I am hooked! You are the best! The best throw was in 1967. Jose Tartabul threw out Ken Berry at home, from right field. This led to the Boston's pennant.

  • @OJsOtherGlove
    @OJsOtherGlove 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When you were talking about amazing right field throws, the first two that came to mind was of course the Ichiro throw, but also the Jose Guillen throw in Coors field. Also, a bunch of Vlady throws are coming to mind now too

  • @dylanmcdowell3894
    @dylanmcdowell3894 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I also think it helps Harper in the long term to play 1B. He can't field forever, but he definitely play until 40 at first. Ryan Zimmerman style, but with a bigger bat.

  • @Tswiz7
    @Tswiz7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love how many “those throws” there are. Didn’t even include Ichiros throw Vs Oakland, Vlad Sr. Vs Toronto, and Cespedes Vs the Angels

    • @JurassicParker13
      @JurassicParker13 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or Brantley in playoffs. Although that was more of a catch then throw I guess

  • @jesalbov
    @jesalbov ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love that you don't just throw numbers around. You truly have a data scientist mind ❤

  • @IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar
    @IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’m a Met fan, but I have to say, I freaking love watching Bryce Harper play. And I know he didn’t have a great reputation when he was in DC, but let’s face it, he came up as a 19-year-old. Most people are kinda jerks when we’re 19, generationally talented or not. I just don’t think he’s that guy anymore; he’s a husband and dad in his 30s, his teammates seem to love him (as do Phillies fans), he’s still killing it on the field, and he’s doing something a lot of players wouldn’t do in service of his team. It annoys me because of the team he plays for, but then again, the Mets are utter trash, and likely will remain so for a while, so whatevs. 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @neal3489
    @neal3489 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid! I'f im not mistaken before Rojas took over center field, Schwarb's WAR was about negative 0.2, so that speaks of how well has he has done as a DH despite the value cut from the lack of field play

  • @R2-DTu
    @R2-DTu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love when Bailey uploads on his main channel

  • @BotkinMusic
    @BotkinMusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lets go phils thank you fir doing a video on the phillies Bailey

  • @arttorres439
    @arttorres439 ปีที่แล้ว

    -Mookie Betts throw to 3rd vs Arizona a few years back
    -Cespedes from the warning track to home vs the Angels ~2010s
    -Vlad Guerrero throw home vs the Mets in the late 90s

  • @jackrafter5303
    @jackrafter5303 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    bailey as a phil’s fan this made me emotional

  • @alexisborden3191
    @alexisborden3191 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I came back to this vid on a whim and I just realized, this is the utility factor that's so hard to quantify about Ben Zobrist, Chris Taylor, and in a different way, Shohei Ohtani. Because the positional spectrum assumes a competently built team, or rather defense, the Phillies have defense issues, but different teams come in different shapes and sizes. We're saying something along the lines of "Bryce Harper deserves credit for freeing up the DH spot so Schwarber doesn't have to play the field". However, we're talking about WAR, and it has to contextualize production for any player on any team. Bryce Harper playing 1B instead of DH on a team without a capable full-time DH like say the Cubs, just isn't as valuable to the Phillies where him playing DH makes Schwarber play the field. To that extent how much is this just Harper saving the Phillies from a problem of their own making.
    Another thing is how valuable is it to play any position, because sometimes its down to bats than anything, I'm thinking more with Zobrist, but that 16 Cubs team had a stacked infield with Bryant, Baez, Russell. Drop one of Baez or Russell to fit Zobrist at 2nd, or drop the struggling Heyward or defensive liability in Schwarber, and Schwarber can DH in the AL games. There is value there, however its very hard to quantify because many teams don't have problems like this. We can't give credit to Harper or Zobrist, for helping their managers out of self created jams in the first place. We can't really make a factor for just Bryce Harper.
    We can however make a factor just for Shohei Ohtani, because he is the most unique player in baseball, and adding an element to WAR that appreciates this would be good. Because WAR treats Shohei the pitcher as a regular old pitcher, which is fine I don't think this needs to change. However Shohei the hitter is treated like a DH, which is incorrect, he's not a DH, the least valuable defensive position, he's a pitcher, the most important defensive position, to replace Shohei in the lineup you need a pitcher that hits, like they all did in the NL. Replacement level hitting for Shohei Ohtani, is horrendous, batting sub 150avg etc. I think that would help quantify Shohei's value and unique skillset at least in the context of WAR.
    Anyways, I think the TL:DR is that Bryce Harper's numbers are better, he gets +5.5 runs switching from DH to 1st base, and the added flexibility is assumed and baked into those numbers.

  • @jamesweldon8118
    @jamesweldon8118 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A team composed of designated hitters: No defense, just homers and vibes
    Excellent writing Bailey

  • @paulready8897
    @paulready8897 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wonder what will happen when Rhys Hoskins comes Back. Does Harper go back to RF and move Marsh to LF. What happens to Castellanos then. Would he be a bench player or would he be traded. Or does Schwarber get traded and Harper becomes the DH. Definitely raises some questions that will have to be answered in the off season.

  • @Thedownboysfan
    @Thedownboysfan ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Maybe it’s your age, but Bo Jackson should be on there for the throws!

  • @MrTakaMOSHi
    @MrTakaMOSHi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bailey reminding us that the DH not only helps the offense by taking the pitcher out of the lineup, but helps the defense by taking guys like Schwarber out of the field

  • @sambmackenzie
    @sambmackenzie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jose guillen from the wall is the throw I always think about.

  • @eliteague4324
    @eliteague4324 ปีที่แล้ว

    Foolish Bailey! Me and my group of friends did early season predictions with the 2023 season. A full scale in depth point system for all types of stats. HR/Hits/RBI leaders AL/NL. Strikeout leaders AL/NL, Division Champs, Wild card, WS teams, WS winner, Manger of the year, ROY, MVP, Cy Young the whole kitchen sink. We would love to share this with you if you are ever free and would like to included in a video maybe one day. We are all big fans of your channel and Atlanta Boys and Braves fans ourselves. Thanks for all the great content you make. GO BRAVES!

  • @baseballdude779
    @baseballdude779 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thats why you gotta love Bryce, he will do whatever he can to help the team win, including learning a new position overnight.

  • @nickfisher8569
    @nickfisher8569 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This might be the one time I’m rooting for a Philly team to win the title. I just want to see Harper, a guy who has really become one of the most likable players in baseball, win a title

  • @syoung_io
    @syoung_io ปีที่แล้ว

    The throw that stuck with me from recent years has gotta be pitcher Vince Velasquez in the outfield during a position pitcher moment perfectly fielding the ball and throwing out Jose Abreu at the plate on one hop.

  • @thomasreithmeier5405
    @thomasreithmeier5405 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Harper worth every penny and then plenty more after the 13yr/330mil deal. He and Machado reshaped the market. And now teams are giving 10+ year deals and more annual average to lower value players. Everyone now is aware that a Red October can be scary for basically any opponent

  • @TylerShanks
    @TylerShanks ปีที่แล้ว +1

    just type in "Jose Guillen's mutant throw from the warning track" it is the greatest throw from right field ive ever seen and it isnt even close

  • @chardude36m12
    @chardude36m12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I came to the exact same final conclusion regarding WAR's positional adjustment while looking at Mookie Betts. Everything that applies to Harper being able to move to first is true for Mookie being able to play good second base, Heyward being able to play great right field, without sacrificing JD Martinez's DH spot or letting Heyward's glove or bat ride the bench

  • @roman_is_gone
    @roman_is_gone ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally, a post on the main channel

  • @epps8686
    @epps8686 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    more phillies videos! fantastic one, thanks for making it :)

  • @WallStreet06
    @WallStreet06 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rick ankiels throw. And Barry bonds. Love those two

  • @LukeDwornikComedy
    @LukeDwornikComedy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hearing a Braves fan be so straightforward and (frankly) insanely kind to Harper is awesome.
    As a phillies fan I sort of loved watching Kyle in the field. He's clearly a DH playing left field, and he didn't complain about it. Those awful plays reminded me of his commitment.

  • @bradleybalsters2078
    @bradleybalsters2078 ปีที่แล้ว

    My outfield throw is Rick Ankiel in RF to Troy Glaus at 3B against the Rockies (twice in the same game if I recall correctly)

  • @tdk95
    @tdk95 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is damn good and almost should have been reformatted into a Baseball Bits. Tidy piece of content here, Bailey.

  • @jasonleino590
    @jasonleino590 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i would love to see a video like this on Tatis playing RF this year. dude transitioned from being a pretty bad defensive SS to a gold glover out in RF.

  • @castlevaniaking5
    @castlevaniaking5 ปีที่แล้ว

    For outfield throws the first ones that come to mind for me are Rick Ankiel's canon shots. The one keeping Jordan Schafer at 3rd when he hit the catcher in the chest from center was amazing.
    As for Harper he deserves all the credit for this. It's a selfless move and with Philadelphia losing Hoskins for the year they had a pretty big hole over there at first. Also for what it's worth it could add some years to Harper playing the field as he ages. It also keeps Bohm at third. All in all a win win for Philly it seems.
    I'm sure Harper at first base is a lot better than Schwarber at first base, some of those plays in Boston were rough.

  • @theJUBMonster
    @theJUBMonster ปีที่แล้ว

    The Yoenis Cespedes throw is definitely the first throw that comes to mind for me

  • @jaqqqqqqattack
    @jaqqqqqqattack ปีที่แล้ว

    "You ever just think about a throw..."
    For me, that's Andy Van Slyke in Game 6 of the 1985 WS. Didn't get Sundberg out, but good Lord, was it ever a good throw, in an iconic ninth inning of an iconic series. (Can argue Porter wasn't positioned well too!)

  • @connorking3523
    @connorking3523 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:30 gotta include the Jose Guillen mutant throw from RF

  • @JMH3106
    @JMH3106 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn man just found you on here through pitching ninja. Very very good stuff

  • @thomasmgill1
    @thomasmgill1 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Roberto Clemente is an underrated defensive outfielder!

    • @SilhouetteLifter
      @SilhouetteLifter ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Is he lol? I think he's pretty widely considered one of the best right fielders ever with one of the best arms of all time

    • @Supadupasebas
      @Supadupasebas ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SilhouetteLifter Clemente was so good that you guys might both be right lol

    • @MegaNocab
      @MegaNocab ปีที่แล้ว

      So good. In fact, his name should be on something bigger than a bridge.

  • @charlesoconnor4053
    @charlesoconnor4053 ปีที่แล้ว

    Austin Jackson throwing out Kosuke Fukudome at home to end the game and keep Jose Valverde's perfect season alive is the one I always just think about. Det v Cle 8/21/2011

  • @jamesweldon8118
    @jamesweldon8118 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used to be the biggest Bryce hater but damn I respect him for sacrificing his stats so the team wins. He's really grown up a lot since coming into the league

  • @LocallyConstantDuck
    @LocallyConstantDuck ปีที่แล้ว

    I think this gets to the main conceit with WAR, that a league average player is available at all positions at all time for teams to sub in. You have to play with the guys you got, and Harper should get major cred for making the Phillies lineup make more sense especially with the Hoskins injury.

  • @jl3782
    @jl3782 ปีที่แล้ว

    Random thought / question I had (which I thought you might be willing to explore): what would happen if Shohei, at least for the next couple years, converted into being a DH plus dedicated opener? Or perhaps even an opener plus 1B a la Harper??
    I wonder how that would impact his value, especially if he were to join a team like the Phillies with roster construction limitations (eg Bryce moves back to outfield, want to keep Schwarber at DH as much as possible)

  • @johnnymoondog9474
    @johnnymoondog9474 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Give me Jose Guillen's throw off the wall to 3rd any day. Just an insane throw.

  • @michaeldriscoll8537
    @michaeldriscoll8537 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dave Parker, 1979 All-Star Game at the Seattle Kingdome. And where is the Yoenis Cespedes throw from left field?

  • @chriswalkey2050
    @chriswalkey2050 ปีที่แล้ว

    The manny machado throw from where the 3rd base coach stands

  • @ob_gynkenobi4014
    @ob_gynkenobi4014 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a Pirate fan, nice to see Tony Womack on there

  • @bradleybalsters2078
    @bradleybalsters2078 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cardinals did the same OF relay thing with Albert Pujols in the early 2000s

  • @mandobrownie
    @mandobrownie ปีที่แล้ว

    This really is a story about how contemporary metrics are just clearly better at exactly explaining why changes in lineup have the impact they do as compared to the eye test. I'd bet the eye test done by even some real baseball nerds would overestimate the individual value of Harper at 1B, underestimate the value of Rojas at CF, and rate the the net difference of Schwarber going from LF to DH as really positive and not basically undoing the negative value he had while at LF. The eye test isn't usually bad at getting the right valence, but the eye test is often quite bad at estimating magnitude.

  • @CBuiscuit
    @CBuiscuit ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ozzie Guillen and Ichiro. Those are the throws I think of

  • @gosato
    @gosato ปีที่แล้ว

    Johan Rojas’s defense reminds me Mike Cameron.

  • @ndsufan6439
    @ndsufan6439 ปีที่แล้ว

    Main channel upload let's go!!!

  • @shorebreakcards
    @shorebreakcards ปีที่แล้ว

    Great deep dive, thanks for the fun-ucation!

  • @raydomenech7646
    @raydomenech7646 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just found your channel, excellent analysis, subscribed.

  • @ARMTOAST
    @ARMTOAST ปีที่แล้ว

    0:25 my first appearance in a foolish baseball video for approximately 4 frames

  • @freeparking301
    @freeparking301 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Peace. Love. Rojas.

  • @brennonbaker4605
    @brennonbaker4605 ปีที่แล้ว

    I personally think about the Yoenis Cespedes throw often

  • @bopete3204
    @bopete3204 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the adjustment is fine because not every lineup has a Schwarber that needs to DH. The positional adjustment has to consider the average jump from DH to 1B, not just the jump in this once scenario.

  • @joshuapatrick682
    @joshuapatrick682 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Crazy that Harper swings his bat so hard it caused his arm to start falling apart…hes the Jacob deGrom of hitting?

  • @tohuvavohu
    @tohuvavohu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HEY Foolish Bailey.... Just wanted to say you're so cool 😎

  • @hvalleydude922
    @hvalleydude922 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm probably wrong, but I take issue with the values at the positional spectrum regarding first base and the corner outfield positions. I would think that 1B and the corners would be the same (say, -8). Whereas 1B is generally easier from an athletic point of view, the position is among the most involved on the field and has a considerable finesse requirement and teamwork factor (turning bad throws from teammates into outs, cleaning up bad throws, making double plays, etc), also, it is the other hot corner so they have to play balls hit to them as well. The corner positions have a higher athletic requirement, but they are much less involved and are mostly unable to help teammates. Anyway just my stupid thoughts.

  • @Grimmes12
    @Grimmes12 ปีที่แล้ว

    You completely forgot about the Bo Jackson Vlad Guerrero Sr. and Yoenis Cespedes throws

  • @bryantsteury8910
    @bryantsteury8910 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not telling Foolish anything he doesn't already know but this is more for the rest of us: Schwarber was also a career catcher at Indiana U, played LF for the Cubs occasionally until game 1 of 2016 tore his knee up in an outfield collision, making it back for the World Series shockingly. So he already wasn't an outfielder made worse by injury sadly. Probably still shouldn't be in the field in any capacity whenever possible, but it isn't his fault entirely

  • @acerola3576
    @acerola3576 ปีที่แล้ว

    love the “butcher is too nice a word, butchers are actually really competent” bit. reminds me how people use “vanilla” to mean basic or bland when it’s really the most elite flavor. we as a species owe it to ourselves to stop the butcher and vanilla slander

  • @JoeyNDot
    @JoeyNDot ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unintended consequence of Harper learning first is that now Rhys Hoskins is likely out as 1B for the Phillies as he’s a free agent at the end of the year. Very tough decisions to be made by the front office. As a Phillies fan I love Rhys but idk if he comes back

    • @n8_n
      @n8_n ปีที่แล้ว +2

      why can't Bryce, with his newly healed UCL, move to the outfield again? I guess you already have Casty/Rojas/Marsh and don't really need Hoskins' bat with how well that roster can hit.

    • @duckiesae
      @duckiesae ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not healed, iirc he still wears the brace on base, and risking someone who throws as hard as him next season with another injury is a bad idea@@n8_n

    • @JoeyNDot
      @JoeyNDot ปีที่แล้ว

      @@n8_n he can! But if Schwarbwr DHs, marsh Rojas Castellanos Pache and harper will fight for 3 OF spots

    • @n8_n
      @n8_n ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JoeyNDot Pache shouldn't be starting games with his bat so I'd take him out of that, but yeah, agreed on the rest.

  • @andrewaaberg482
    @andrewaaberg482 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another Foolish video? I'm there! It's about Bryce?! Dude I already said I'm there!

  • @tristanzemtseff9435
    @tristanzemtseff9435 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how could you snub the ichiro throw like that bailey

  • @flatearthtruthband
    @flatearthtruthband ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome vid, Bailey!

  • @bricebagley5238
    @bricebagley5238 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bailey I think you’re forgetting Harper having to lob the ball around the infield between innings

  • @orubas
    @orubas ปีที่แล้ว

    Im surprised i havent seen any mentions of rick ankiel for the throws i think about section

  • @Roysorb
    @Roysorb ปีที่แล้ว

    It's the Jose Guillen throw in Coors. It's the only one.

  • @ThatOneCanadianKidEh
    @ThatOneCanadianKidEh ปีที่แล้ว

    Missed Yonies Cespides throw to home.

  • @sneersh9107
    @sneersh9107 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol as a Phils fan I think a lot of the people questioning how Schwarber's WAR could be so low haven't been watching him play the field all season... it really was so bad that I can easily believe it negated most of his offensive value, easy outs turning into hits was pretty routine. Love Schwarb and glad he isn't sent out there in left to die every game anymore, our young outfielders have dazzled.

  • @andrewbair7810
    @andrewbair7810 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a loyal Phillies fan, I can fully support picking on Kyle Schwarber's defensive ineptitude.

  • @michaelklein95
    @michaelklein95 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m a Phillies fan and without the DH allowing Harper to hit they don’t make the wild card let alone a World Series run.

  • @dixonnormous
    @dixonnormous ปีที่แล้ว

    Showing that castellanos clip in PGH as an example isn’t fair imo, he’s been just fine out there this year

  • @TheNookOfficial
    @TheNookOfficial ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How do you have Schwarber's catch probability data on specific plays? Curious to see it for myself

    • @FoolishBailey
      @FoolishBailey  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      scroll down on this page baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/kyle-schwarber-656941?stats=statcast-r-fielding-mlb

    • @al1976-v7m
      @al1976-v7m ปีที่แล้ว

      Apart from his poor defendive movement, how good or bad is his hose?

    • @duckiesae
      @duckiesae ปีที่แล้ว

      From the eye test as someone who's watched his games this season, he's innacurate and average on speed, more relays as a result rather than long throws. Good defensive shortstops and 2b make up for those relays.@@al1976-v7m

    • @Chooch4mvp
      @Chooch4mvp ปีที่แล้ว

      @@al1976-v7mHe throws lollipops😂

    • @al1976-v7m
      @al1976-v7m ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Chooch4mvp haha

  • @stuffbenlikes
    @stuffbenlikes ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love him or hate him, you know Harper's going to give it his all.