My Favorite Baseball Reference Page
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00:00 - Favorite Baseball Reference Page?
0:33 - Connie Marrero
1:55 - Short King
3:40 - Born 1911, Died 2014
5:58 - Age-39 to Age-43
8:37 - Player Finder
10:15 - Baseball Background
12:09 - Refuses To Elaborate
The Ringer on Baseball Reference Pages:www.theringer.com/mlb/2020/3/...
Connie Marrero SABR Bio: sabr.org/bioproj/person/conni... - กีฬา
Hold on. Did anyone else see that in his age 37 minor league season Marrero had TWENTY-FOUR HBP in just 31 games???? That's triple any of his other seasons!
Maybe they would bring him in as an enforcer, lol
He also had a 56 K/BB in one of those years aswell
I suspect some data errors in that season. He had 168 Ks to only 3 BBs, which sounds really unlikely. I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned in the video.
@@Joe23590 I think anyone who got to 3 balls against him would have to watch out for the HBP.
“Different era different style” or whatever lol
I’ma go with statisticians not knowing wtf they’re adding up lol
My favorite Baseball Reference page is Rangers at Royals, June 6th 1991. The game goes 6 and a half hours and 18 innings. Future Hall of Famer George Brett has the best hitting game ever without contributing to the outcome in any way. He went 4-6 with 3 walks while having no runs scored or RBIs.
How the hell is it not helping his team despite getting on base? Is it it his own fault that his own teammates can't bring them in. Hits is still an improtant stat to see whose a good baseball player. Not whatever nerd stat of the month you come up with
@@tylerbennett5282 1. He’s a Hall of Famer so he doesn’t care about this anomalous performance
2. The Royals won the game so he didn’t care, even then
3. I’ve edited my comment to be more concise
@@tylerbennett5282 Agreed. I've been formulating a statistic, tentatively called Share of Runs Scored. If you single, take third on a single and then score on a Sac fly, you're credited with .25 SRS, the guy with the following single gets .5 SRS and the guy who drove you in gets .25.
@@JayTempleI love that idea
@@JayTempleI imagine stealing second would give the scorer 0.5, just as a double would. Rickey Henderson's 1989 ALCS performance against the Blue Jays is a good test case for the stat
Pitcher Jack Quinn has a great page, having his best seasons deep into his 30's and 40's and getting MVP votes in his age-47 season.
Also born in Slovakia which is sick
@@havenharris1793
It wasn’t even Slovakia at that time, it was still the Austro-Hungarian Empire
He also had no relation to the other famous Jack Quinn who was a near contemporary
My favorite is my grandfather's page. He played two seasons in the minors in the 1950s as a leftie pitcher.
thats really cute
I don't think I've ever seen someone spell lefty like that. Hell ya keep doing you. Gold jacket green jacket...who gives a shit!
Name?
I can look at Barry Bonds Baseball reference page and i will never get tired
My favorite thing to do is to compare Bonds' pre-Giants years to Alfonso Soriano's first 7 seasons to notice how similar they are, and then wonder how our opinion of Soriano would have changed if he started taking steroids partway through his career like Bonds did
@@SilhouetteLifter Soriano had terrible OBP’s. Bonds would walk every game
Indimidation factor
@@SilhouetteLifter Soriano's _peak_ 7 years: 120 OPS+, 26.4 bWAR
Bonds first 7 years: 147 OPS+, 50.3 bWAR
Soriano was, quite literally, half the ballplayer Bonds every was at any point in either of their careers. which says a lot more about Bonds than Soriano, mind you.
Agreed, I like looking at all the steroid needles and pitchers careers he ruined through cheating
Back in November, I asked Bailey a question on his Patreon a question about the best short pitchers and he brought up Marrero. It's cool to see it become a full video.
Hoyt Wilhelm is a Hall-of-Famer who debuted at 29 years old! Retired at 49 with a 2.52 career ERA
I absolutely love Julio Franco's Baseball Reference page, there's really nothing else like it on the entire website or in MLB history
He’s the Hoyt Wilhelm/Jack Quinn of hitters
The Joe Horn of MLB players
I recently discovered another player akin to Franco as part of an exploration on some of the most influential players in MLB history. Nick Altrock played his first MLB game at the age of 21 with the 1898 Louisville Colonels (a team that featured Honus Wagner at first base, as well as 3 guys named Clarke) and while he pitched his last game with the 1924 World Series-winning Washington Senators at 48, he had 1 plate appearance for the Senators in each of the 1929, 1931, and 1933 seasons at the ages of 53, 55, and 57-meaning that over the course of 36 seasons he participated in 19 of them, or just over half, finishing his career with 1,514 innings pitched, an 83-75 record and 2.67 career ERA, a .176 average in 609 career plate appearances, and a 96 ERA+, 40 OPS+, and 9.2 career WAR. His SABR biography (sabr.org/bioproj/person/nick-altrock/) really ties his BR page together.
I would highly recommend the book The Pride of Havana: A History of Cuban Baseball by Roberto González Echevarría, the history of the game there is fascinating and the book talks about a bunch of really interesting players like Marrero.
I’m partial to King Kelly’s page. First thing that draws your eye is he had an OBP of .483 in 1886, which makes you go “what the heck happened in 1886?” The National League increased the number of balls for a walk from 6 balls to 7 balls, and the guy had the best OBP of his career. It’s interesting to track his career as the number of balls for a walk changed. Didn’t get to the modern 4 balls for a walk until 1889.
Learning about how much the rules of pitching changed in the first few decades of professional baseball makes you wonder how guys managed to stay consistently good when the rules kept changing on them
Elmer Valo.
One of only 3 players to appear in MLB born in Slovakia. Spent the first decade of his career on the Philadelphia Athletics and was part of 3 teams that relocated; PHA to KCA, BRO to LAD, and WSH to MIN. Add in missing time due to military service and being a career 115 OPS+ hitter makes for a very interesting trivia answer that no one has heard of.
Paul O'Neill having the link to his kick where it references that he kicks left is always fun
I've certainly heard of Connie Marrero before but it was mostly for his elderly age. Good to know there were other things that made him unique.
I love the boxscores that Baseball Reference has on their page, so my favorite B-R page is the box score from the best game that I've witnessed in person: Randy Johnson's 300th win. I just go to the page frequently and relive the fond memories I have of that day.
It’s such a common one but looking at Bonds page is just insane
My favourite stat of all time.
If Barry Bonds had retired at 35, he would be tied with 5 other players for most MVPs ever, all having three.
Then from 36-39 Bonds won another 4 mvps.
Barry Bonds, Wilt Chamberlain, Pete Maravich (college), and Jerry Rice have to be on the Mt. Rushmore of sports reference
@down bad dav Yes.
@downbaddav2296 as were many others, none of them had onbase% above 60
120 intentional walks in 2004 is one of the wildest baseball stats
Pretty sure I just spent a good 20 minutes with the video paused just looking at the 1968 game log for Bob Gibson. Insane.
The Bob Emergency
SABR bios are a huge part of my value for certain Reference pages. And obviously Rube Waddell is a top 5 SABR bio ever.
August 27, 2002 Toronto Blue Jays vs Chicago White Sox it was the first baseball game I ever attended. I was 5. But it’s remarkable for so many other reasons. The game featured Roy Halladay in his first All star season and my favorite pitcher and legendary speed runner Mark Buehrle. Halladay went 8 innings of 2 run ball and Buehrle went for 9 innings and gave up 4 runs. The game would have gone sub 2 if not for Joe Crede hitting a game tying 2 run home run off of Kelvim Escobar. In the bottom of the 10th Joe Crede hit a walk off grand slam to win the game 8-4 in 10. It would be his only career grand slam. Bonus points for Shannon Stewart hitting a home run right at me in the 2nd inning while my dad was getting lemon chills. That I fell in love with the game this day and is my oldest fondest memory. I’m glad baseball reference gives me the chance to relive and validate these memories.
My favorite page is the home page, because I like to see how many random guys I can name as well as some of their stat highlights. My best is 9 for 14, but I can usually name a couple.
Gene Tenace is my favorite Baseball Reference page. His walk rate and overall production with such low batting averages even by today’s standards amazes me. Averaged 5.7 bWAR per 650 PAs during his prime from ‘73 to ‘80
My favorite page is Nate Berkenstock. the oldest player ever on BBref, born on September 17 1832. He played one game for the Philiadelphia Athletics, the team he co founded, for their last game of the first season of the National Association. at 39 years old, he struck out 3 times and ended 0-4. According to his bullpen page, he’s also believed to be one of the first jewish players in MLB.
my favorite part, the FAQ for his page claims that he both “had hits over his career” and “had home runs over his career”, presumably failing to insert the 0 that belongs there. that or we’re missing the 5th at bat we all know went over the wall. who knows.
Good one!
Nolan Ryan with StatHead is on another Level especially in his older years about 35 and over is where it gets insane
god, i wish we had Statcast back then. There's no way he was throwing harder than like 83
All pitchers back then threw 105+ mph. Plus they had to walk to the mound both ways uphill.Also they had to deal with heavy rain and 6 feet of snow.
@@007Hutchingsppl make a big deal because ted williams was a war hero but what about the guys who didnt slack off during the war? Imagine fighting the nazis AND playing games.
I don’t really have a favorite but my least favorite is definitely Jason Kendall
Numbers so good until they weren’t…
Explain
I'm partial to the 1894 phillies page, with 4 count em 4 outfielders hitting above .400
My favorite is Buster Brown. He was an effective pitcher for the Dodgers, Phillies, and Cardinals. His first MLB start he throws 6 innings striking out 11 and allowing no earned runs and ended up with the loss (all 8 runs were unearned lol). In 1910 he had a 9-23 season yet had a ERA+ of 123. He had an unremarkable career but there was a lot of weird going on there 😂
Yes. Eddie Murray's page. So obscenely steady. 🙂
My favorite baseball reference page is Clayton Kershaw because that ERA column is just eye candy.
My favorite B-Ref page is also a Cuban who pitched for the Washington Senators in the 50s: Camilo Pascual aka the Little Potato
I don't surf Bref like many big baseball fans, but I do like their "Baseball Frivolities and Fun Stuff" page, lots of quirky fun stuff.
I love this video and I barely understand the topic. This is amazing due to the fascinating story of a man’s life and your passion
Thanks, awesome player to learn about. Can't wait until you dig up another one of these
8.6 WAR from age 39 through 43 is wild
Can someone do a stathead search for leaders in WAR after age 39?
Top 3 Phil Niekro 35.4, Jack Quinn 31.5, Cy Young 25.3. Marrero ranks 30th among pitchers and 39th among all players.
@lincolnmckay555 very interesting.
@@lincolnmckay555
Who’s the top hitter, Wagner?
@@lincolnmckay555 I guess you have to be pretty good at the game to stick around that long lol
Gotta choose Bullet Rogan as my favorite Baseball Reference page, insane stuff on there
Great vid as always! Love when you go into baseball history
I go back to Josh Gibson sometimes, because it’s truly remarkable to see how he absolutely tore the league up. His rate stats are obviously insane, but some of his counting stats are eye-popping when you consider he was never playing 70 games a season.
I think my favorite part of his page is that in 1943 he hit for a .466 batting average (50 points higher than his previous best) and yet he didn’t even have the highest for that season (The leader was Tetelo Vargas with a .471).
5:48
"Born 1911, Died 2014. Buried. Cremated- just in case you wanted to know."
Lou Whittaker, the consistency is mind boggling
Khris Davis, for the same reason
Joe Hietpas. This man only played in one single game. And one single inning. And it was the final game of the Expos in 2004. Never got an at bat. Just played a single inning and it ended a franchise lol
For some reason, Ricardo Torres' page has always fascinated me. He was the first Latin-born player in the major leagues, as a catcher and first baseman for the Washington Senators in 1920-1922. Plus, he and I share a birthday! (He was born 73 years to the day before me!)
My favorite just for me as a Mariners fan is the 2021 Mariners bref page, where it lists them as having "Run Differential: -51 • Fun Differential: +90" based on a Scott Servais quote from that season.
Anyone else notice at 9:09 that Marrero had outings of 11.1 and 12 innings at his age???
Just catching this one - I'll give you a hint as to what my favorite BRef page is: We both said "Game Score" at the same time when you went to his game log. There's a game score wizard that I love looking at on Stathead.
The two individual seasons i look at the most on bref are Kris Medlen in 2012 and Ranger Suarez in 2021 because they're such fascinating outliers of pitchers being dominant as both a starter and reliever in the same year
Braves had a lot of guys in the 21st century randomly become Cy Young candidates for like a year or 2. Sean Newcomb comes to mind as well
As a Dodger fan I definitely look at Clayton Kershaws reference page too often 😂
My favorite is the Brooklyn Robins vs Boston Braves Box Score from May 1, 1920
Oh yeah that's that complete game my great grandfather's favorite pitcher Joe Oeschger threw. Absolutely bonkers.
Got to love looking through all the obscure players' pages on Baseball Reference
I showed this video to a couple of my friends and asked them what their favourite page was, but the whole thing left them cold. They’re the type of guys who waste their time talking to girls, going to parties, socialising and building healthy real-world relationships with other people. Poor suckers, I really feel sorry for them sometimes. One of them couldn’t even tell me something basic, like how many 40HR seasons Darryl Strawberry had (zero, duh!). Poor dude even said, “yeah, well you’re 22, have you ever even kissed a girl before?” Like I have time for that nonsense! Girls indeed! I only just learned how many times Pud Galvin lead the league in FIP and WHIP (zero again! Who knew!). Most girls don’t even keep a screenshot of the first 8 years of Mike Trout’s BR page on their phone in case they need to look at it when they can’t get internet. Crazy broads!
Anyhow, I’ll just keep my fingers crossed for my friends I suppose. They’ll come around one day.
my favorite page is the major league batting totals year-by-year. it's fun to look at how the game evolves over time
Eddie Joost had some funny numbers-in 1947 he hit .206…with 114 walks, 110 strikeouts. In 1948 he upped his average to .250 and walks to 119 and struck out 87 times. In 1949 he had his best season at age 33, this time reaching .263 with *149 walks* and 80 K’s. He kept walking 110 times a year for several more seasons but never led the league because he was playing against Ted Williams.
Another second baseman for the Philadelphia Athletics (albeit some 20-30 years beforehand) named Max Bishop had 1216 hits in his career and 1156 walks.
I discovered this guy when i was doing an ootp league where i picked random players from 1920 onwards, glad to see him get some shine
That’s how I found the legend Boob Fowler
No known relation to Dick Fowler, unfortunately
@@warlordofbritannia I can't believe that's a real baseball player
@@soapsatellite
Boob or Dick?
each new thing about this guy was a bigger curveball than he probably even threw
Wow this is definitely a really interesting baseball reference page Bailey what a story this guy had
Just wondering if this is a thing?…
OPS+AVG+BABIP+ISO+BB%
minus SO%=OOW or Overall Offensive Worth. So for example….Ronald Acuna Jr has a 1.840 OOW…..highest in baseball. So take a player in the top five or ten in OPS(above .900) with a batting average in the top five or ten(above .300) with enough at bats(top ten in baseball) so add OPS with AVG plus BABIP plus ISO plus BB%…then subtract SO% that will bring you to a players Overall Offensive Worth.
OPS+AVG+BABIP+ISO+BV%…
Minus SO%=OOW
Shades of Bob Emergency - an endlessly fascinating story if we can only figure out where to look
This is really a video about the incredible Cuban healthcare system in disguise
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my favorite page is Deacon White, I’m not even a hardcore baseball fan I just noticed they ordered players debuts and went on a mad hunt to find the first one, and voila
Moose Grimshaw’s baseball reference page is way better imo but to each their own
Why? Is it just the 111 season or am I missing something
Is it cause he looks like Bill Hader?
Probably just the fact the mans name is moose
@@ShrexyGuy what did he sayyyyyyyyyyyyy
I played with a dude that was a legit 5'5" LHP in junior college and he got a scholarship to a D3 school and went on to lead break their school record for ERA and Ks in a season. He threw fireballs but his changeup made Bugs Bunny jealous and he could throw it for strikes 99% of the time so dude threw it on 3-0, 3-1, 2-0 and 2-1 counts and you could literally watch hitters go straight tits up underwater as he feathered it in 3x in a row. Probably the best pitcher Ive ever seen and if he was 6 ft or taller he easily gets drafted.
Connie Marrero's baseball reference page really brings out your eyes
pls do a "ranking my viewer's favorite baseball reference pages"
This is a smart video to make for a sponsor. Sponsor video in disguise. And it’s amazing
I like the way you referenced his baseball
Mine is either Dante bichette or Julio franco. You look at bichettes war or the 30 years of professional baseball of Julio Francos.
Dante Bichette was born to DH, but played most of his career in the NL
Absolute banger of a video
Steve Dalkowski. He threw one of the hardest fastballs of all time, was completely unhittable, but was wilder than any pitcher ever and never made it to the major leagues.
Look at his K/9 and BB/9... just ridiculous
also
"Buried: Cremated"
on a bbref page is crazy
Bill Pounds. 2 games played, 2 teams played for, 1 season. In his whole career! I actually have a list of obscure baseball reference pages!
Definitely has to be Nellie Fox’s. He’s got a wad in his picture and no one hated striking out more than him
Confromation this is the greatest sport! Thanks for the fun & educational video!
Bailey hitting us with the cheeky 12 minute 49 second stathead ad
Oyster Burnes' baseball refrence is pretty interesting, as well as Bert Shepard.
Rich Hill (Dick Mountain) way more interesting. Can't believe none of the major baseball channels have done a video on him. His comeback is incredible
Pascual Perez is my favorite, such a badass on the mound. Also Dwight Gooden is also a good one
I can look to Cliff Lee's 2011 game logs every day until the world ends
I’m a big Rickey Henderson baseball reference page fan
Juan Soto is up there for favorite Bref page, sure, he's only 24, but that's why it's so good.
My favorite page is actually from a defunct site named The Baseball Gauge, and it allowed me to rank all games, series, and plate appearances ever by Championship Leverage Index and Championship Win Probability Added. Like what you discussed in the video about Hal Smith's 1960 home run. Does Stathead have an equivalent to those pages? If so, I seriously might buy it.
My favorite page is Eric Cammack's. He gave up the 3-run HR to Brian Jordan in Top 8th to put the Braves up 8-1 before the Mets put up 10 in the bottom of the inning capped off by a 3-run HR by Piazza on June 30, 2000. Cammack's only career at bat came a couple days later against the Marlins on July 5, 2000, and hit a triple. I've been waiting for someone to upload that game for a long time. Someone finally uploaded Daryl Boston's 13th inning walkoff HBP to win 1-0.
Lots of good ones out there. Ken Griffey Jr. is one of my faves. Frank Thomas from 1990-1997 is unreal. Ruth and Bonds go without saying. So does Cy Young. Trout's first few years where he was seemingly leading his league in something new every year. Walter Johnson's 1910-1919 run (if you add his hitting he was worth like 116bWAR in the decade. Jim Kaat has a most peculiar 1965 that is barely above replacement level, despite looking like a near top 10 in Cy Young voting type year from certain aspects. Josh Gibson is always ridiculous. Bill Bergen is also ridiculous. The doubles totals in the 1930's (Webb, Greenberg, Waner). The triples totals pre-1920. Aaron Nola's big year. Roy Campanella in odd numbered years in the early-mid 1950's. Stan Musial and Willie Mays have particularly satisfying pages. Finding my former neighbor's son and my friends uncle show up in the database (both never reached the majors) was cool.
Orval Overall is my favorite baseball name/page
Second best pitcher on the 1906 Cubs!
Those 10 years in the amateur leagues there were only 30-ish games a season if it's Sundays March-September, which if he started all of them is a normal SP workload but I wonder whether he did start them all or not
Randy Johnson’s baseball reference is something a look at all the time
I like Eddie Gaedels not just for the height but for the officially listed half number
Nolan Ryan v. Luis Tiant, June 14, 1974 ... Feast your eyes.
Joey Gallo. As of February 2024, he has 3143 plate appearances and 198 home runs, but only 3 total sacrifice flies in his entire nine-year career. If he were to retire right now, that would have to be baseball's most unbreakable anti-record.
I personally love the 2001 Seattle Mariners page
My favourite is The Only Nolan.
FYI Viau is likely pronounced Vee-OH. It's a French name.
Barry bonds situational hitting stats in 2004 season. .800 OBP with two out and RISP
Roger maris splits 1961 season
Any Colorado Rockies sluggers OPS compared to their OPS+
Also Rockies stars OPS decline but OPS stability after leaving Colorado (holiday, arenado)
OPS ans OPS+ leaders for hitter unfriendly 1968 season
Juan Pierre’s ten most similar players: all white guys from deadball era
Dick Allen’s HOF stats
10 years from now randy arozarena’s baseball reference will be my favorite
he almost lived to 103 which is pretty cool
Satchel Paige debuted for the Cleveland Indians at age 42. Won a WS too
This is just setting up the Foolish Bailey story where he closes out Game 7 of the World Series for the Atlanta Braves as a 40 yo rookie.
Im def making my Connie Marrero “Road to the Show” character now lmao
I just can't get over the fact that the page states: Burial status: cremated. Why is that information available? Is that information in all the pages, if the player has passed away? That is so funny.
Hey if you still play ootp baseball can you make videos about it again I just got the newest one and it would be nice to have some entertaining videos to watch and learn from on the game
Ted Williams' OPS+ was HIGHER from age 33-41 than before.
Mine is Randy Poffo. Former minor league catcher for the Reds and Cardinals.
Only became one of the 10 most iconic pro wrestlers of all time
Tony Horton has a very interesting page. Above league average hitter at such a young age despite playing the pitching dominated late 60s (and in an offensively lacking Indians lineup). Had to leave to game early due to declining mental health following a suicide attempt.
Anyone who played for a bunch of teams is always fun, Jesse Chavez, Tyler Clippard. Even Jamie Moyer.
I’m lobbying for an asterisk next to Connie Marrero’s name on the MLB centenarian list. He had the unfair advantage of Cuban healthcare, which most MLB players could never have.
I love Jamie Moyer's page