I love sounds of them both.I really love your X Pipe setup sound with Kooks headers.I have a 24 PP and I think I want to put Dark Horse exhaust on it with Kooks headers.I really wouldn’t get aftermarket exhaust if it sounds like your Dark Horse!
ItalianStallion respect my dude great videos. I have a '17 GT PP that i worked and sacrificed for years to get and now I want a Dark Horse so bad in the EXACT spec that you got but its just not in the cards for me sadly. Loving your videos though and Im just living vicariously through you ha keep it up brother you're killing it!
Love the format of your video. I have a 24 gt performance pack, magnaride 401A package. I too hate the slowness of the center screen 2 😂. However, I enjoyed the comparison format you all did. I hate the non-owner "spec sheet" car reviews. Good job. Great format! Any check engine lights from headers??
Thanks brother congrats on your s650 and no headers didn’t give me a light but I think I messed up the o2 messing with them so I got the light I hit something in the road
I have the jnl catch can after watching you post about it. I will be putting a corsa extreme cat-back on for my DH as soon as it gets delivered later today. I want to do headers but I do not want to void the warranty. Lol I should have went to the ponies in the smokies
OH MYLANTA ! WIW THAT H PIPE WAKES UP THAT COYOTE ON S650! Sssheeessshhhh so much more than X pipe on my s550 wow .. C & L H $143, Install $60 from my muffler shop ….Wow love it
Sounds great , wonder if there’s a difference in the dark horse mufflers and the active mufflers besides the exhaust tips . I feel like dark horse exhaust is deeper (pause )
You can definitely hear the difference on the video. my x pipe sounds different to me when I’m driving it verse when I hear it if someone else is driving it and I’m outside the car..H has a lower rumble.. all preference I guess. It’s weird I feel like I like the H better when I hear it but then when I drive my car with the X I like it more.
Steeda picked up 10 rwhp with the H-pipe, only 2-3 with the X-pipe. This is a complete reversal compared to the S550. Doing Kooks headers with the H-pipe (so 33 RWHP + 10 Rwhp) adds 43 wheel horsepower to the Dark Horse. AWE Exhaust also claims an additional 10 RWHP to the Dark Horse so that combined plus yank out the carbon filters and add in JLT (J&T) cold intake which is another 12-20 more horsepower and now you definitely have over 500+ rwhp on 93 pump gas and no tune. Jake nice video. I plan to take my DH to Revolution Auto to get the Kooks installed. 53 miles from home. Cheers Brother👍👊💪🇺🇸
Both cars sound phenomenal. But how much power do these new mustangs actually putting down to the wheel? Am asking because I had the privilege today for a new s650 to pull up next my bmw wanting to race and his sounded incredible, but my bimmer walked it. My f30 340i Msport stage 2+ e60 touching damn near 500 whp in case anyone wanted to know. But am just fascinated with these new mustangs.
I think that RPM soft limiter is in every s650 regardless of transmission, When i took my s650 drag racing it would always shift at about 7100 ish, wonder why they did that.
The inventory manager at my dealership told me the Recaros are not very comfortable on long trips what is your opinion? I have a Darkhorse order in the system which Ford has not picked up yet and I opted to not get them. I debated updating my order to include them but the inventory manager said that would change my order position delaying my order even further. Thoughts?
@@ItalianStallion410 I mean no offense.. I just think most of the aftermarket parts are a little over the Top and a huge waste of money. I never really cared for any of the RTR stuff I guess.
Do you normally let the RPMs drop below 1000 before you start driving? I've heard that this is a myth but a lot of car enthusiast stick with this rule.
Yea I had a ‘21,’22 and almost a month in custom order ‘24, love this car much better …after “hating on it at the reveal” saying never getting rid of my ‘22 and here I am 😂
@@ItalianStallion410 Thanks. Put my deposit down on the DH Premium today. Build date supposidly early August. Now to sell my beloved supercharged 2021 lol I've already started putting a build list together for an NA setup on the DH. Need something that a 50 year old can drive around the city!
@@ItalianStallion410 Just reading up on the Kooks Header problem you ran into. Mmmmm that seems like a pretty big deal no? Steeda H Pipe Kooks 1 and 7/8 with High Flow Green Cats K&N Mustang 5.0L Typhoon Cold Air Intake System J&L Oil Separator 3.0 PCV Side
@@Michael-CS mine rubbed a little on my steering rack but we dropped my steering rack and shaved it down just a little cause it is really close fitment or you can bend the headers either one will prolly work but they rubbed so little I would only feel it if I was turning and hiting a bump
@ my daily driver is a 2015 Roush stage3 tuned by VMP . Have fun with that S550 plus. Bought my wife a 2019 GT Blackout edition. Let us know when the IPAD screams go black.
@@MustangGuru I mean if you want me to say shit about your car 😂 you transmission is garbage you got a 2015 so you got the old garbage sync your body gaps are prolly more spaced out than your thoughts. your VMP blower is dog water gets heat soaked after a pull🤷🏽♂️
@@ItalianStallion410 lol. I wasn’t trolling you btw, I’m 60yrs old living the best life I’ve ever had, The MT-82 id not really a bad transmission , if you know how to shift, my Roush has the Roush 2.3L supercharger on it, granted it does get a little heat soaked after about 5 pulls, but not an issue. Young man I’ve built more engine than you have changed your underware , Just have fun with a car that can’t be tuned .
Idk what is different with these s650s but they sound deep like classic muscle. I love it holy hell.
I agree
Your definitely right
@@Jmoney421 I know bbg
Agreed. The sound is deep and crisp.
its the H pipe.
i must admit the sound is undeniably rich, regardless if tunes aren't available yet.
Ehhh I think it’s perfect
Very nice! 🇺🇸 that white with black looks amazing! 🇺🇸
The way you guys say “on” and “mode” cracks me up😂 it sounds like “oohnn” and “mowde”
🤣🤣🤣 it did
Both cars sound great. That H pipe tho
Right
Wasp is a clean build so far!
Both cars sounds good 👍🏼
I love sounds of them both.I really love your X Pipe setup sound with Kooks headers.I have a 24 PP and I think I want to put Dark Horse exhaust on it with Kooks headers.I really wouldn’t get aftermarket exhaust if it sounds like your Dark Horse!
I think so to if I had a GT I would do the exact same thing
the Dark horse and the GT have the same mufflers the only difference is the tips are different sizes
That Dark Horse is a beast! Love that color homie! It’s baller!
Thanks brother
This vid reminded me of you guys comparing Minion to Apollo a while back pretty sure it's the same parking lot too lol
🔥vid as always bro
Yeah I said the same thing to Brandon
Appreciate it bro!
The dream cars right there! I’m in love!!! Good job guys!!!!
Thx bro
@@ItalianStallion410 Brother you know I got you!!!🤝👆🏾🙌
I currently own a s650 ecoboost saving for a Dark Horse or a Shelby, but I've been keeping tabs on vettes, aswell ! 👍🏿
All good cars
@@ItalianStallion410 yep, I agree
ItalianStallion respect my dude great videos. I have a '17 GT PP that i worked and sacrificed for years to get and now I want a Dark Horse so bad in the EXACT spec that you got but its just not in the cards for me sadly. Loving your videos though and Im just living vicariously through you ha keep it up brother you're killing it!
Thanks brother means a lot I really hope you can get a dark horse
Beautiful sounds!!
Ya the headers are the ticket Stally for sure 💯
Stally is a white washed nickname...Stalino better
I like the video, good job. The "H" mid sounds better, in my opinion. Both nice cars!
Thanks man
Jake as long as u love, her that what’s matter. Great video
Thanks brother
@@ItalianStallion410 No problem, safe travels enjoy . Tear the dragon up.
Yes nice cars like always great videos. 👍
Thanks for tappin in
Hey, so the Kooks headers don't throw a code?
@@g04tn4d0 no
@@ItalianStallion410 Fuck yeah, boi! I'm getting them next!
Love the format of your video. I have a 24 gt performance pack, magnaride 401A package. I too hate the slowness of the center screen 2 😂. However, I enjoyed the comparison format you all did. I hate the non-owner "spec sheet" car reviews. Good job. Great format! Any check engine lights from headers??
Thanks brother congrats on your s650 and no headers didn’t give me a light but I think I messed up the o2 messing with them so I got the light I hit something in the road
*I think most said get a h pipe over a x pipe on the s650*
Yeah they have
I got to get Kooks on mine immediately. Where did you order from? Wasp and DH sound amazing!!
Just straight from kooks
How hard was the catch can install?
It wasn’t bad hardest part was just running the lines in the right place
I have the jnl catch can after watching you post about it. I will be putting a corsa extreme cat-back on for my DH as soon as it gets delivered later today. I want to do headers but I do not want to void the warranty. Lol I should have went to the ponies in the smokies
They won’t void warranty just gotta put the high flow green cats
@ItalianStallion410 thank you! I appreciate this info. What size headers are the most ideal?
Can’t wait to buy my dark horse
@@NinjaGamerPlayz1 you are gonna love it I am posting my dark horse racing school video today best car ever
OH MYLANTA ! WIW THAT H PIPE WAKES UP THAT COYOTE ON S650! Sssheeessshhhh so much more than X pipe on my s550 wow .. C & L H $143, Install $60 from my muffler shop ….Wow love it
H pipe is the moves
Sounds great , wonder if there’s a difference in the dark horse mufflers and the active mufflers besides the exhaust tips . I feel like dark horse exhaust is deeper (pause )
@@Manitowoc-cb3fg yeah I think they are different
Hey did the kooks headers throw a check engine light or no I’m really on the fence about getting them
With high flow cats no
@@ItalianStallion410 did the you get the ultra green cats or the regular green cats
@@KingSoully12 the ones that are good for 800 HP
Luv my puddle lights!!! 😂
😂😂 chill
@@ItalianStallion410 🤣🔦
Do the headers and green cats void the warrenty?? Got a 24 gt pp here in vapor and planning whipple stage 1 and h pipe corsa extreme
No it won’t void it
@ItalianStallion410 thank you sir!
Does headers give you a check engine light?
Not with the high flow Cats no
At 7:02 I thought I was the only one. These S650 are tight to get in. I have to do butt first too. 😂😂
😂😂😂😂 facts
Did you have to add a tune after you did the headers? Also I just added an h pipe to my gt. I’m debating if I should do headers next to an axle back.
Yeah I got a tune for them
@ does it void the warranty?
Thats a great photo op location, where is that? I live in the richmond area. Great vids bro!
I can’t remember the name gotta ask Brandon he would know
Cox Road by the lakes
You can definitely hear the difference on the video. my x pipe sounds different to me when I’m driving it verse when I hear it if someone else is driving it and I’m outside the car..H has a lower rumble.. all preference I guess. It’s weird I feel like I like the H better when I hear it but then when I drive my car with the X I like it more.
I agree with that I like how mine sounds when I am driving but the H pipe sounds good in person when it’s idling
What shifter knob is in the yellow one?
Its a full carbon one
Now I like the s650s but them damn voodoo engines sound mean as hell. Like the shelby gt350 and 350R.
They do I like them
QUESTION … 304 SS or is 409SS ok? For H pipe
I would go H pipe
@@ItalianStallion410 dang just watched H vs X cj pony dam X sounds good doh ..I watched Joel’s video …so undecided
Steeda picked up 10 rwhp with the H-pipe, only 2-3 with the X-pipe. This is a complete reversal compared to the S550. Doing Kooks headers with the H-pipe (so 33 RWHP + 10 Rwhp) adds 43 wheel horsepower to the Dark Horse. AWE Exhaust also claims an additional 10 RWHP to the Dark Horse so that combined plus yank out the carbon filters and add in JLT (J&T) cold intake which is another 12-20 more horsepower and now you definitely have over 500+ rwhp on 93 pump gas and no tune.
Jake nice video. I plan to take my DH to Revolution Auto to get the Kooks installed. 53 miles from home.
Cheers Brother👍👊💪🇺🇸
That’s insane I never got to see any of their videos I gotta go watch them never thought a H pipe would pick up 10 HP that’s insane
Both cars sound phenomenal. But how much power do these new mustangs actually putting down to the wheel? Am asking because I had the privilege today for a new s650 to pull up next my bmw wanting to race and his sounded incredible, but my bimmer walked it. My f30 340i Msport stage 2+ e60 touching damn near 500 whp in case anyone wanted to know. But am just fascinated with these new mustangs.
I posted a full dyno video of what my car made if you wanna check that out
I think that RPM soft limiter is in every s650 regardless of transmission, When i took my s650 drag racing it would always shift at about 7100 ish, wonder why they did that.
Yeah I gotta do the same
@@ItalianStallion410 but I got a 10r80 so
@@shaddiehadid7547 hmm that’s weird
@@ItalianStallion410 I think all the s650 have a 7100 rpm soft limiter
MT82 24 s650 does the same 😢
H pipe for sure… I’m gonna keep the resonator though
Love my H pipe
They sound good
The inventory manager at my dealership told me the Recaros are not very comfortable on long trips what is your opinion? I have a Darkhorse order in the system which Ford has not picked up yet and I opted to not get them. I debated updating my order to include them but the inventory manager said that would change my order position delaying my order even further. Thoughts?
I just did 10 hours in mine 2 days ago and they felt fine to me I am 6,0 205 and they feel fine to me if you are prolly 250 plus they won’t be comfy
I have the recaros on my 24 GT I’m 5’9 200lbs muscular build and they get somewhat uncomfortable after 4-5 hours of driving
Do you get bad exhaust fumes inside the car from headers? My kiddos ride with me that’s why I’m asking.
Not with the high flow green cats
Is quiet mode quiet?
Yeah
Catted or off road H pipe??
Yes catted
Not really off sequence it’s just that when the light travels it starts from the triangle then moves out.
Yeah Someone else said that also
“Flame him in the chat” 😆
😂😂
I like the clean stock look better myself..
Yeah that is nice
@@ItalianStallion410 I mean no offense.. I just think most of the aftermarket parts are a little over the Top and a huge waste of money. I never really cared for any of the RTR stuff I guess.
Music🔥🔥🔥🔥
Do you normally let the RPMs drop below 1000 before you start driving? I've heard that this is a myth but a lot of car enthusiast stick with this rule.
Yeah most of the time I do
Yea I had a ‘21,’22 and almost a month in custom order ‘24, love this car much better …after “hating on it at the reveal” saying never getting rid of my ‘22 and here I am 😂
Hahahaha now you love it
@@ItalianStallion410 yes sir I do ! Sent DBP pics check them out
Which H Pipe did he go with?
Steeda
@@ItalianStallion410 Thanks. Put my deposit down on the DH Premium today. Build date supposidly early August. Now to sell my beloved supercharged 2021 lol I've already started putting a build list together for an NA setup on the DH. Need something that a 50 year old can drive around the city!
@@Michael-CS congrats on it
@@ItalianStallion410 Just reading up on the Kooks Header problem you ran into. Mmmmm that seems like a pretty big deal no?
Steeda H Pipe
Kooks 1 and 7/8 with High Flow Green Cats
K&N Mustang 5.0L Typhoon Cold Air Intake System
J&L Oil Separator 3.0 PCV Side
@@Michael-CS mine rubbed a little on my steering rack but we dropped my steering rack and shaved it down just a little cause it is really close fitment or you can bend the headers either one will prolly work but they rubbed so little I would only feel it if I was turning and hiting a bump
Lightweight flywheel, and ati super damper
Might have to do those too
@@ItalianStallion410 I did on the gt500 the snap of the throttle and the quick deceleration was a big improvement
Do you have cats on your car?
@@prettyboymac6088 the cat is dead 😂😂
Bro both cars sound insane 🔥🔥🔥🔥 I think I like the H-pipe sound a little better. Oh, you’re almost at 30k! Congrats! I remember when Derek hit 20K!
Thanks brother they did sound so good
They sound good for mustangs😂 JK they are nice!
😂😂😂
I’ve always been an H-pipe person, but I like X-pipe more with S650. So weird
They both sound really good
They sound good I’m just not a fan of the way the s650 looks gen 3’s look meaner
Yeah I think so too
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Its crazy you don’t have puddle lights. My oxford white non HP Darkhorse has them
Tell me about it 😭
I like the x pipe better shit almost sounds like a voodoo
@@hds8182 that’s what I was saying
I must be crazy not a fan of the rtr lights at all
Some people like them some don’t
American muscle sold me a used Corsa CAI and refused to send me a return label for a new one. Finally refunded me some of the $ but man never again.
@@uptobatentertainment damn that don’t surprise me honestly
Dark Horse look like a Honda Civic in the front. Ford dropped the ball on this car. Only 40k units sold for 2024
@@MustangGuru glad you can read a headline have you ever driven one? Or should I ask what cars have you driven to compare
@ my daily driver is a 2015 Roush stage3 tuned by VMP . Have fun with that S550 plus. Bought my wife a 2019 GT Blackout edition. Let us know when the IPAD screams go black.
@ closed minded people like you won’t make it far in life
@@MustangGuru I mean if you want me to say shit about your car 😂 you transmission is garbage you got a 2015 so you got the old garbage sync your body gaps are prolly more spaced out than your thoughts. your VMP blower is dog water gets heat soaked after a pull🤷🏽♂️
@@ItalianStallion410 lol. I wasn’t trolling you btw, I’m 60yrs old living the best life I’ve ever had, The MT-82 id not really a bad transmission , if you know how to shift, my Roush has the Roush 2.3L supercharger on it, granted it does get a little heat soaked after about 5 pulls, but not an issue. Young man I’ve built more engine than you have changed your underware , Just have fun with a car that can’t be tuned .
Rtr lights are ricer