The look on Greg Graffins face when the lady next to him was talking about a matriarchal society being "the next evolutionary step" was priceless. He's an evolutionary scientist.... I could tell he was face palming in his head.
I've been married almost 18 years; we're involved parents. My boy is on ski holiday with his father who gives him lots of attention as an only child. It just goes to show that even when everything is perfect, children still can misstep. I also know single parent mums and dads who don't have problems with their children. It's the luck of the draw! Many parents regardless of their marital status have told me that their sons are not performing. These parents say it is laziness not discrimination!
It was getting better and better. I want parts 4-10. It’s funny how long this stupidity has been (in the US) and still is. Well done stupidity, all the odds were against you.
It's not always true that the dumbest ones talk the most, but in this case it certainly was. Graffin and Sommers were clearly the brightest people on that panel, and even though the conversation was about Sommers' book (and she should be able to talk more about it), Sirtis just kept angrily taking over the conversation (and saying incredibly cockeyed and ridiculous things in the process, like women don't physically abuse men).
I can't believe I just say through the clips of this show and Greg Graffin barely spoke. These girls need to realize this isn't The View. However, I do have to say I think the author of that book made really great points. I just wish Graffin would have spoke up more because I would have loved to hear what he had to say
I think it's kind of difficult to speak as a male when three "women" were ultimately insulting his gender. Considering that 2 out of 5 victims of domestic violence are men, Gaffin tried to bring that to light, but of course Sirtis quickly shut that argument down. As a female, it makes me angry and it sickens me that women bully these men and they are called heroes because of it. I'm not a feminist, because the women in history have made that pathway for me. I want equality for men and women.
This conversation was very simplistic. I have a son. Despite me supporting him and making sure he has the tools to be successful, he is failing miserably. Why? My boy doesn't want to work. Christina has a point in that boys are preforming below standard, and she places the blame on feminist--just like Bush blamed single mothers for social problems.. Your problem is you can't stand that Sirtis, opened her mouth and out shined Greg. Two PhDs don't make a person infallible. Greg wasn't on his game!
She said, "Baptist don't go to hell?" Which translates into do all baptist believe just because they are saved they won't go to hell? Marina is quick witted and one has to think! In short just because people believe they will get into the Pearly Gates, doesn't mean they will because God makes the judgement and not people. That pastor sinned big time and yes he is forgiven, but only God knows if he will get into heaven.
Clearly Greg is the only person on the stage with an opinion worth sharing, even he can't stoop to the lowly levels of this pointless conversation. What he said in part 2/3 about the abuse of women and the men alike was the best thing that was said surrounded by 1000's of words that held no meaning.
I think that it's funny to see Greg sit there and twittle thumbs. Don't get me wrong, Greg is my hero but it's just funny to me that he can be so vocally anti-authoritarian in Bad Religion and then be quiet here. It's probably cause he is a genius and it hurts to dial it down for these intellectually inept slime stains. Except Bill, I like Bill. No government, no religion!
Oh Greg, I beg of you, please tell me that you did not agree with Mrs. Sommers. You're a dedicated scholar, surely you read the book and recognized it as a vengeful farce?
Actually Julie Brown (even though she comes off as a ditz) did stick up men, she does not want wuss for a man, and that men can be smart too in earlier segments.
ok, marina gets annoying but has still makes the most valid points. reading a bunch of sexist hate speech advocating violence towards women is sickening. women may be doing better in school or going to college more frequently, but why then are they getting paid less than men for doing the same jobs across the board? institutional and systemic inequality is a real issue, and men are socialized to aggressively take advantage of this inequality. don't be thick.
I bet not a single one of these women even knew who Greg was. Would love to have seen him been asked to play a set in the middle of this babblin' gabbin'.
The author of the book seems to be too 1 sided too. Would be nice to hear an objective description in the difference in genders, genetically and in society. I think this video does address the genetic sex differences if anyone is bored:/watch?v=RCNgknc7Qv8&feature=BFa&list=PL6A08EB4EEFF3E91F&lf=plpp_video
I was really looking forward to watching this video and I sat through all 3 parts in hopes that Marina would be muzzled, have her mic shut off, or at least told that she was in fact contributing nothing to a discussion with on an interesting topic. Is it not a little ironic that Marina managed to completely silent the only intelligent man present by talking about herself whilst ignoring the problem of people being raised to be too self centred?
Meninism is equality for men and women. Nazism is socialism. North Korea is a democratic peoples republic. Islam is a religion of peace. See why that doesn't work?
Last time I looked on imdb Sirtis has been working steadily over the years. True she's not an A lister, but she does work. Therefore your thesis is unfounded.
Greg was only able to crack a few jokes here and there... Bill should have asked for Greg's opinion occasionally instead of letting the other three just go on and on
The only one with any goddamn sense is Greg Graffin, and he's the one who keeps his fucking mouth shut. He needed someone like William Monahan for support.
Maher is not a very good moderator. He should have asked Greg to talk since he was too respectful to cut the idiots off and actually add something interesting to the "conversation".
I think she's just trying to be funny. She keeps making sexual jokes, while Greg is smarter than all of them combined and still makes the audience laugh more, with his 5 sentences he made during the whole show.
What is insulting is posters are belittling Marina and praising Greg. I have to ask myself why this is? I've read Greg has 2 PhDs and is supposedly better debater than the others. A PhD doesn't make you a better debater. Greg didn't speak up or make a significant contribution. I feel many people fell into the stereotype of dissing Marina because she is a woman, stated her opinion and didn't support Hoff Summers thesis. Proof? Look at all the statements on this board calling Marina a dumb b§$%&!
If Greg is so intelligent like the people on this board are claiming, he should have shown that he could argue the point. Greg doesn't have to kowtow to anyone. In fact he is an example of male privilege, which he didn't want to own up to and which Marina spoke of. I think the men on this board have got to stop praising men just for the sake of praising men. Greg chose not to be part of the argument. In fact when it came to the question on rape, he was asleep! Slandering Sirtis isn't the answer!
Please. Do you not know how things like this work? And intelligence is knowing when it’s wise to open your mouth and when to keep it shut. He was wise to keep it shut. The platform was not conducive to constructive dialogue.
He literally said 'Yea a judge shouldn't make a decision based on what the girl looked liked, he should make a decision based on whether the minister was wrong in his [actions].'
Actually, Sirtis was the one who got the conversation back on topic. Second, this conversation was not about winning or losing. It was about how boys have lost gains in education by being discriminated against. Sirtis wasn't buying it, neither do I. Third, Graffin had a bad night and wasn't on his game. I wished people would see this. Finally, Sirtis isn't a femnazi. If you knew her biography, you'd know Gates McFadden and she didn't live a charmed life on Star Trek. The woman has paid her dues!
Greg said about two word and looked really uncomfortable. Really not worth watching. I think he may have been a little too smart to get involved with this crap.
Wow, politically incorrect was shit compared to real time. I think Bill can get better informed guests now and not just B list celebrities and obscure authors.
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The look on Greg Graffins face when the lady next to him was talking about a matriarchal society being "the next evolutionary step" was priceless. He's an evolutionary scientist.... I could tell he was face palming in his head.
"Quiet people have the loudest minds." - Stephen Hawking
lildice200 and computers
God Greg is amazing and so down to earth, professional, and straight to the point
This video should be called Greg Graffin doesn't get a word in while Troi yells at everybody.
I was pro-gun control before hearing Marina and Bill talk. I've thoroughly revised that opinion.
I dont like the fact though that Greg said so little when it looked like he had a lot to say.
They kind of were talking over him...
Introverts don't normally get too many words in edgewise.
I've been married almost 18 years; we're involved parents. My boy is on ski holiday with his father who gives him lots of attention as an only child. It just goes to show that even when everything is perfect, children still can misstep. I also know single parent mums and dads who don't have problems with their children. It's the luck of the draw! Many parents regardless of their marital status have told me that their sons are not performing. These parents say it is laziness not discrimination!
Need to get Greg on Real Time. Hell, they got Billie Joe from Green Day on
Billie joe would just make jokes .
It was getting better and better. I want parts 4-10. It’s funny how long this stupidity has been (in the US) and still is. Well done stupidity, all the odds were against you.
It's not always true that the dumbest ones talk the most, but in this case it certainly was. Graffin and Sommers were clearly the brightest people on that panel, and even though the conversation was about Sommers' book (and she should be able to talk more about it), Sirtis just kept angrily taking over the conversation (and saying incredibly cockeyed and ridiculous things in the process, like women don't physically abuse men).
Even though Graffin is brilliant in many things, he's not good with articulating himself in interviews!
***** The chairs they were sitting in seemed more intelligent than she did.
I can't believe I just say through the clips of this show and Greg Graffin barely spoke. These girls need to realize this isn't The View. However, I do have to say I think the author of that book made really great points. I just wish Graffin would have spoke up more because I would have loved to hear what he had to say
poor Greg having to put up with those cow's
I completely understand Greg not speaking much here.
That's why you get a prenuptial agreement Greg. ✌
these clips should be called GREG SITS ON THE STAGE OF Politically Incorrect
Wisdoms is having knowledge and knowing when to use it
Im surprised Greg didnt walk up and leave. I expected him to.
I think it's kind of difficult to speak as a male when three "women" were ultimately insulting his gender. Considering that 2 out of 5 victims of domestic violence are men, Gaffin tried to bring that to light, but of course Sirtis quickly shut that argument down. As a female, it makes me angry and it sickens me that women bully these men and they are called heroes because of it. I'm not a feminist, because the women in history have made that pathway for me. I want equality for men and women.
what year is this?
He did in part 2, he made her look really dumb with just a few words without raising his voice.
I think that one woman who wrote The War Against Boys or whatever makes some verry valid points.
This conversation was very simplistic. I have a son. Despite me supporting him and making sure he has the tools to be successful, he is failing miserably. Why? My boy doesn't want to work. Christina has a point in that boys are preforming below standard, and she places the blame on feminist--just like Bush blamed single mothers for social problems.. Your problem is you can't stand that Sirtis, opened her mouth and out shined Greg. Two PhDs don't make a person infallible. Greg wasn't on his game!
*Feminism was supposed to be equality for men and women."
There. Fixed it for you.
She said, "Baptist don't go to hell?" Which translates into do all baptist believe just because they are saved they won't go to hell? Marina is quick witted and one has to think! In short just because people believe they will get into the Pearly Gates, doesn't mean they will because God makes the judgement and not people. That pastor sinned big time and yes he is forgiven, but only God knows if he will get into heaven.
Equalism is much better altogether, good choice. I can't stand patriotism, feminism, misogynism, racism, etc. Why aren't people focused on Humanism.
I feel you on that.
@AGuyThatsCanadian Halo Talks. The answer is simple; people are people.
It's The Mariana Sirtis Show!
My thoughts exactly
I think this being called an interview with Greg Graffin is a bit misleading....he was there, but it wasn't "with" him.
Greg in 1:02
"Fuck"
Greg was wise to keep quiet!
They should have booked Gene Simmons instead of Greg. This would be like booking Noam Chomsky on The View.
Clearly Greg is the only person on the stage with an opinion worth sharing, even he can't stoop to the lowly levels of this pointless conversation.
What he said in part 2/3 about the abuse of women and the men alike was the best thing that was said surrounded by 1000's of words that held no meaning.
I think that it's funny to see Greg sit there and twittle thumbs. Don't get me wrong, Greg is my hero but it's just funny to me that he can be so vocally anti-authoritarian in Bad Religion and then be quiet here. It's probably cause he is a genius and it hurts to dial it down for these intellectually inept slime stains. Except Bill, I like Bill. No government, no religion!
Oh Greg, I beg of you, please tell me that you did not agree with Mrs. Sommers. You're a dedicated scholar, surely you read the book and recognized it as a vengeful farce?
Actually Julie Brown (even though she comes off as a ditz) did stick up men, she does not want wuss for a man, and that men can be smart too in earlier segments.
ok, marina gets annoying but has still makes the most valid points. reading a bunch of sexist hate speech advocating violence towards women is sickening. women may be doing better in school or going to college more frequently, but why then are they getting paid less than men for doing the same jobs across the board? institutional and systemic inequality is a real issue, and men are socialized to aggressively take advantage of this inequality. don't be thick.
A paragraph? He barely finished a sentence, nobody "got a paragraph in"...
I bet not a single one of these women even knew who Greg was. Would love to have seen him been asked to play a set in the middle of this babblin' gabbin'.
y the fuck did i watch this? greg couldnt get a word in edge wise
The author of the book seems to be too 1 sided too. Would be nice to hear an objective description in the difference in genders, genetically and in society. I think this video does address the genetic sex differences if anyone is bored:/watch?v=RCNgknc7Qv8&feature=BFa&list=PL6A08EB4EEFF3E91F&lf=plpp_video
I was really looking forward to watching this video and I sat through all 3 parts in hopes that Marina would be muzzled, have her mic shut off, or at least told that she was in fact contributing nothing to a discussion with on an interesting topic. Is it not a little ironic that Marina managed to completely silent the only intelligent man present by talking about herself whilst ignoring the problem of people being raised to be too self centred?
Yep she personally proofed the point of the writer with her behavior and is not even being called out for it XD.
Feminism is equality for men and women.
Meninism is equality for men and women. Nazism is socialism. North Korea is a democratic peoples republic. Islam is a religion of peace. See why that doesn't work?
Marina is a real expert isn't she?
Last time I looked on imdb Sirtis has been working steadily over the years. True she's not an A lister, but she does work. Therefore your thesis is unfounded.
my femdar is going off the charts
Greg was only able to crack a few jokes here and there... Bill should have asked for Greg's opinion occasionally instead of letting the other three just go on and on
Do Baptists go to Hell?
I don't know.
The only one with any goddamn sense is Greg Graffin, and he's the one who keeps his fucking mouth shut. He needed someone like William Monahan for support.
Maher is not a very good moderator. He should have asked Greg to talk since he was too respectful to cut the idiots off and actually add something interesting to the "conversation".
It's like a group of hens clucking...
Dude the chick with the black hair and the earings. read man!
Dam they must be really bummed out when Hilary lost to trump xD
Face at 0:45
Well, have your ears checked then
I think she's just trying to be funny. She keeps making sexual jokes, while Greg is smarter than all of them combined and still makes the audience laugh more, with his 5 sentences he made during the whole show.
What is insulting is posters are belittling Marina and praising Greg. I have to ask myself why this is? I've read Greg has 2 PhDs and is supposedly better debater than the others. A PhD doesn't make you a better debater. Greg didn't speak up or make a significant contribution. I feel many people fell into the stereotype of dissing Marina because she is a woman, stated her opinion and didn't support Hoff Summers thesis. Proof? Look at all the statements on this board calling Marina a dumb b§$%&!
Graffin barely spoke. What a letdown.
If Greg is so intelligent like the people on this board are claiming, he should have shown that he could argue the point. Greg doesn't have to kowtow to anyone. In fact he is an example of male privilege, which he didn't want to own up to and which Marina spoke of. I think the men on this board have got to stop praising men just for the sake of praising men. Greg chose not to be part of the argument. In fact when it came to the question on rape, he was asleep! Slandering Sirtis isn't the answer!
Please. Do you not know how things like this work? And intelligence is knowing when it’s wise to open your mouth and when to keep it shut. He was wise to keep it shut. The platform was not conducive to constructive dialogue.
He literally said 'Yea a judge shouldn't make a decision based on what the girl looked liked, he should make a decision based on whether the minister was wrong in his [actions].'
This is painful. Somebody stop her.
bullshit greg could not get a goddamn paragragh in.
I wish Greg would have spoken more :'( Thats ok, he just sat there looking hot. Being seen and not heard is how I like my men! Just kidding!
Actually, Sirtis was the one who got the conversation back on topic. Second, this conversation was not about winning or losing. It was about how boys have lost gains in education by being discriminated against. Sirtis wasn't buying it, neither do I. Third, Graffin had a bad night and wasn't on his game. I wished people would see this. Finally, Sirtis isn't a femnazi. If you knew her biography, you'd know Gates McFadden and she didn't live a charmed life on Star Trek. The woman has paid her dues!
Hillary Clinton come on greg you can't be serious!!!!
Greg said about two word and looked really uncomfortable. Really not worth watching. I think he may have been a little too smart to get involved with this crap.
I'm disappointed in Diana Troy
i like christina but shes off with the "human failing" thing for a 14 year old and her minister.
Well women don't vote for women Hillary proved that twice and Greg I know voted for Hillary be it back then and now
0:20
This guy is losing me.
Yeah, although in his defence they probably didn't know the things we now know about her back then.
Marina Sirtis might just be the most irritating person I have ever seen. She appears to be wrong about everything she says.
womyn talk to much
Wow, politically incorrect was shit compared to real time. I think Bill can get better informed guests now and not just B list celebrities and obscure authors.
Insanely stupid arguments from the guests...
So annoying that this misguided feminist hijacked the entire show, and Greg couldn't share some intellect .