Wouldn't it be amazing to see some of the lectures from Gregg Graffin's classes he teaches. I'd love to see him give a lecture on evolution or related topics.people should tweet at him they'd like to see videos of his lectures so that maybe he'll record some of his future lectures and upload them somewhere, and/or release any past ones if he has recorded them. itd be amazing
Isn't choosing to be an atheist the same as choosing to deny a God? Where as being religious is choosing to accept a God. No amount of scientific research or discovery will ever be able to prove nor disprove whether or not a God exists, because it would exist beyond the bounds and laws of logic and science. So, a Christian is no more naive to choose God than an atheist is to choose NO God. There will never be absolute proof on either side. Therefor, your choice is based on faith. You have none.
I'm reading his dissertation right now. Its really deep. It is not only helping me understand the perspectives of others but is really helping me to understand and define my own belief system. Buy the book. Its called "Evolution and Religion: Questioning the Beliefs of the World's Eminent Evolutionists" Good stuff!
The foundation of those beliefs came from egypt and have a 5000+ year history. Everything we know today came from this religious base- Including Science, observation, and Mathematics. All Numbers we currently use are created from dividing a circle or "sun" with a cross, The amount of numbers we chose to make before repeating again are 9, 7 for each major planet, 1 for the sun and 1 for the earth. This was also the basis for Time, Horus the god of the Sun is depicted wearing a watch. (cont)
I grew up with the ideals of Christianity and Jesus the savior etc. and sometimes it feels like I've no choice but to believe because I've believed my whole life. I was taught the 'seed' of doubt of my faith is sown by Satan himself. So naturally I'm extremely conflicted as to drop my faith and live my own life, and risk being self-conscious that I let Satan win. (which ironically would mean I didn't truly let go of my faith) I don't know man. I just don't have the capacity to be an atheist..
I see what some people are saying that his dissertation is more philosophical than scientific. The thing is, evolution is not just of the body but also of ideas and social norms. For instance, things like love, guilt, and altruism have arguments that they are developed traits that aided in creating a cohesive group dynamic to increase the chances of survival. He was trying to broach a similar connection to religion. At least that's what I think, if someone wants to refute me go ahead.
He explains it quite clearly. His dissertation is in Zoology, yet part of his portfolio of work revolves around a statistic involving philosophical beliefs. This is why history and philosophical science is relevent within his hard science discipline. He is answering a direct question, and not discussing his entire coursework. Simply spaeking to a questionaire which is only a part of his portfolio. Listen up.
Every number is actually a relation to a planet and is a metaphor for our solar system in various positions of rotation. They are ordered by how they affect our planet. The sun has the greatest affect, 1. The moon 2, Jupiter 3, 4 Uranus, 5 Mercury, 6 Venus, 7 Neptune, 8 Saturn, 9 Mars. The days of the week also are given names for the days when each planet has greatest effect on earth. Mon(moon) Tues(mars) Wed(Mercury), Thurs(Jupiter), Friday(Venus) Sat (Saturn) Sun(Sun). Cont(final)
clicked what? anyway, was that below addressed to me? Because with a communal group, how would a form of government rise to power if everyone refuses to be lead by them?
Entropy and Order are opposite sides of the same coin, NEITHER can exist without the other. They, like all opposites, validate the existence of each other.
@ironicsomething No. A PhD usually lasts 5 years, you have to take 2 years of coursework, write research papers, and then do an original dissertation that contributes to human knowledge. The survey is probably part of his dissertation, dissertations are usually the size of a small book. Don't discredit PhD's, it takes a lot of work and effort.
@ronocko lets look at the dino. Of course the appearance of the original dino could certainly change, but the results would always be within the dino species. This is clearly seen within the vast variety of the dog species. All of them are different and all of them are dogs. The bottom line is that mutation defiantly can change creatures, mostly for the worse occasionally for the better, but they never create a new type of creature.
@1978alexn Groups evolve not just single animals, We don't see transitions because everything is in transition you don't look like your parents exactly the small differences accumulate and when in nature certain beneficial adaptations will be chosen (by nature due to the fact they are better suited to survive under a current condition) and that trait will spread through the populace. Pinpoint the exact moments you changed from a baby to a toddler to a child to a teenager to an adult...
I have absolutely zero points of reference for any of his allusions, but I think I understood what he meant generally. He was just suggesting that there are allot of people out there who are scientists in title only. Right?
I believe when he talks about religion being compatible or incompatible with evolution, he doesn't just mean Christianity, Judiasm or Islam, I believe he is referring to Naturalism, which can be considered a religion. Or you can consider it this way: Einstein once said "Science without religion is boring. Religion without science is blind." But Einstein also said that he didn't believe in a personal God. Steven Hawking also mentioned the "Mind of God" but he was referring to laws of physics.
Yes, you are right in that sense 100%, I agree. And as most (if not all) scientists are independent-minded, and most of them agree, then that produces a likely observation, do you agree? (By the way, I have no connotations of sarcasm or hostility here)
interesting thesis. perhaps we can learn something from this if we actually read into it. because this runs concurrent with some of the input Ive also received over the last 10 years.
@1978alexn It's not disputed there may be life on other planets it's disputed the technology exists to traverse the galaxy nevermind the universe if there was intelligent life capable of the sort of travel we would have made contact with them via radio waves that we've sent out light years. We haven't stopped evolving how many people do you see for example with a furrowed brow typical in our species uptill about 3000 - 4000 years ago, I already explained time is a key factor aswell as necessity
Fossils of Homo heidelbergensis have shown evidence of ceremonial burials, which implies a belief in an afterlife and therefore some form of religion. This is seen as one of the key points showing the development of intelligence in early humans. Greg is absolutely correct, religion is part of evolution.
Dr. Graffin is a smart guy. Little doubt exists about that. However, after listening to him explain his dissertation on test results that are completely obvious to those who pay attention to this stuff, I have to question the leniency of the critical methods Dr. Graffin's dissertation was afforded.
Even through what you say, there can still be anarchy, people naturally want to do what is best for them, and if they open their eyes, everyone should see the hypocrisy of the common government. You're right, it cannot exist in it's ideal form, but there can be a form, of, even as you speak, because there will still need to be people to organize majority votes, corporation heads, and law that is determined by the people instead of 1 person, anyway, again good observation.
Mr Graffin "MAY" sound a little bit un-ortodox... But i HAVE to admit he got a LOT(!) of logical/non religious points here. As we ALL knew,knowlige evolves from thinking,NOT from religion...
He's always shown his depth of knowledge in his lyrics, if you don't think Greg Graffin is a fucking genious then you may have a deep seeded problem of your own!
very good greg yet the question arises by itself: ¿why should we be compelled to accept a world view that makes compatible religion and evolutionary biology? LOVE BR by the way
In times of war:Johns very little brother had a corn to eat and asked his brother if he wants 1/2 John said he just had one..can u prove not ?Their father was watching them and didnt say a thing..probably his father was watching and didnt say a thing niether -but john didnt felt any hunger that night -u shouldnt feel any niether...how is that possible?i just made that up. A man of intelligence would never question someones good will and charity so stop bothering ur mind - ur not alone here
@stevecash83 It isn't a matter of whether or not there is an absolute answer to the question of the existence of god; it's about what the implications of the answer would be. The ideas themselves are irrelevant; it's a question of how ideas lead people to live. Furthermore, if you're referencing the laws of logic, one never has to disprove a negation. The logical tautology of atheism holds until god is proven to exist.
@Chanut83 Science is the pursuit of knowledge, and the scientific method is composed of fundamental building blocks of how we understand our world and the universe in which it resides. Only an unwise man would scoff at prior scientific endeavors, given that they don't consider the way in which the fountain of knowledge grows through trial and error. Life and existence are products of complex chemical reactions that can be mapped by mathematicians; the true facilitators of scientific consensus.
@Chanut83 Consider we scientifically, technologically and medically advance to a point where we "get rid of" death and aging, then what? I guess we'll scoff at ourselves.
oops, accidentally pressed enter. anyway, I was going to say: on certain subjects, I find it more logical to go with the majority, such as evolution, dinosaurs, ancient life, etc. NOT all the time though, you are correct.
I pretty much agree that religion is a social tool and adaptation of humans. I am open to the "mystical" component of the "religious" experience, but I kinda feel that religion right now is causing a lot of problems in the world. I'm not so sure that biologicl "evolution" is going to a good place though b/c of all the chemicals/pollutants & things we're doing to ourselves-its almost as if we are in a race with ourselves to see which component will be destroyed the fastest....
Yes, but what other way may we find out that evidence agrees if not by consulting a scientist, unless we are a scientist ourselves. They show the evidence when they have a lead, if they do not show these, or don't go along with them, they are merely "prophets".
I'm not a fan of generalizations. I can't speak for other disciplines but I'm 19 working on my Bachelor's in Political Science and if anything, I've learned to be skeptical. I'm not a moron. Indoctrination is a choice, I believe. Not every political scientist is going to be a liberal. Nonetheless, your assumption could have some validity. I take things I and other people say with a grain of salt. Academia isn't taught by the state, it's funded by the state. Politicians aren't the teachers.
It depends. If professors and teachers are telling students that evolution or theology or conservative business practice or liberalism IS "the way", then yes that is clearly attempted indoctrination. Luckily, I've only come across one professor like that. I believe "Submission Complete" is a BR song about this. Narrow-minded beliefs/practices without understanding and considering alternative solutions, that is the result of indoctrination. It depends!
I'm a big fan of Greg's, but I have to agree with some of the other posters in that I don't see the relevance of his study. What scientists believe on a philosophical subject is, in my opinion, scientifically irrelevant. It may have some interesting social implications, but this was for a science PhD.
Anarchy is, IMO, humanly impossible. As social animals humans group together due to our "Strength in Numbers" type instincts. In the group one or more will always be looked to for guidance, advice, etc making them informal leaders. Also since humans form groups, within these groups there will develop a set of rules, norms, mores, and taboos which is a fundamental system of law and order. Anarchy is an ideal, and nothing in it's ideal form can exist.
you could say the same about religion. It is merely popular belief with no scientific backing. When you ask a scientist, I would not call him a "majority" in the sense that you mentioned.
The chicken definately came before the egg, so where did the chicken come from? It evolved from a religious dinosaur, spared only by his relatives because they didn't eat chicken on Sunday.
@ethancfbz maybe a little. Dont think thats the reason a religion starts, but I do think that is what it becomes. A way to control. I wish I could write a novel and make hundred thousend ppl belive it so much that they would blow them self up for me
our idealogies/philosophies/reasoning or our biological/material self-it looks like both roads are headed to a very dark end at the rate that humans are moving ;-( Thank goodness for music
@ronocko There's no clear cut this is baby this is toddler it sort of fades over periods days weeks months and years until you look nothing like you did before. With evolution this happens over many generations, we can observe it in bacteria because they have such short lives that we can see more generations in actual observable time. Look at dogs artificially selected for another example all come from the grey wolf and look at the great diversity between all breeds today.
Any another thing for all little brains here how is it possible for a man ...and that is if u really know what are u really made of "if you made it to the point to undestand your originalitly (ur nature) " how could u ever question religions when the fist message is to get ur self to the point of being a God.
@stevecash83 However it is not rational to choose to believe in something when no evidence supports your conviction. The only reason anyone believes in a god is to fill an emotional need. Having emotional needs is not a good reason to believe in a god. In my opinion comforting yourself with ideas like an afterlife is sign of weakness and denial, which is not ok. We have to confront ourselves with the truth: There is no god and the meaning of life is only what we make it. And that isnt bad : )
You can't make a bogus judgment about this interview alone. Go and actually read his dissertation. And saying that religion developed because of evolution is not philosophical. It's more psychological then it is philosophical. He goes more in depth as to why in,"Is Belief in God Good, Bad, or Irrelevant." Every action we make is triggered by either our hardwiring, education, or environment. The chemicals that flow through the brain and cause you to think the way you do are more biological.
Its not hard to belive that religion was manufactured by men or men evolution. When you have questions you try to answer them. When there was no science to support theorys, people just made up stories to answer their own questions ant then spred them around. I dont belive in god at all but I envy those that do because they will leave this world with much more ease than the ones that dont believe in god.
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Wouldn't it be amazing to see some of the lectures from Gregg Graffin's classes he teaches. I'd love to see him give a lecture on evolution or related topics.people should tweet at him they'd like to see videos of his lectures so that maybe he'll record some of his future lectures and upload them somewhere, and/or release any past ones if he has recorded them. itd be amazing
I wonder how many punk fans Graffin has put onto science. So few other musicians have achieved that. He's the epitome of a role model.
So much respect for Greg Graffin
I listen
I agree
We need more thinkers like this.
The man! I love his book and music
Isn't choosing to be an atheist the same as choosing to deny a God? Where as being religious is choosing to accept a God. No amount of scientific research or discovery will ever be able to prove nor disprove whether or not a God exists, because it would exist beyond the bounds and laws of logic and science. So, a Christian is no more naive to choose God than an atheist is to choose NO God.
There will never be absolute proof on either side. Therefor, your choice is based on faith. You have none.
I'm reading his dissertation right now. Its really deep. It is not only helping me understand the perspectives of others but is really helping me to understand and define my own belief system. Buy the book. Its called "Evolution and Religion: Questioning the Beliefs of the World's Eminent Evolutionists" Good stuff!
The foundation of those beliefs came from egypt and have a 5000+ year history. Everything we know today came from this religious base- Including Science, observation, and Mathematics. All Numbers we currently use are created from dividing a circle or "sun" with a cross, The amount of numbers we chose to make before repeating again are 9, 7 for each major planet, 1 for the sun and 1 for the earth. This was also the basis for Time, Horus the god of the Sun is depicted wearing a watch. (cont)
One of out greatest, and one of my favorites, minds. Lets go!
I grew up with the ideals of Christianity and Jesus the savior etc. and sometimes it feels like I've no choice but to believe because I've believed my whole life.
I was taught the 'seed' of doubt of my faith is sown by Satan himself. So naturally I'm extremely conflicted as to drop my faith and live my own life, and risk being self-conscious that I let Satan win. (which ironically would mean I didn't truly let go of my faith)
I don't know man. I just don't have the capacity to be an atheist..
"True atheists are in Vatican." Lacan. Notice that Greg don't claim himself as an atheist...(if he does, he could be the next pope !)
I see what some people are saying that his dissertation is more philosophical than scientific. The thing is, evolution is not just of the body but also of ideas and social norms. For instance, things like love, guilt, and altruism have arguments that they are developed traits that aided in creating a cohesive group dynamic to increase the chances of survival. He was trying to broach a similar connection to religion. At least that's what I think, if someone wants to refute me go ahead.
He explains it quite clearly. His dissertation is in Zoology, yet part of his portfolio of work revolves around a statistic involving philosophical beliefs. This is why history and philosophical science is relevent within his hard science discipline. He is answering a direct question, and not discussing his entire coursework. Simply spaeking to a questionaire which is only a part of his portfolio. Listen up.
HE'S JUST SO FUCKING SMART!!!!
I really want to read Anarchy Evolution. Anyone know when in 2010 its supposed to hit stores?
Very good observation.
greg graffin and bad religion for the WIN!!!
I love this!
Every number is actually a relation to a planet and is a metaphor for our solar system in various positions of rotation. They are ordered by how they affect our planet. The sun has the greatest affect, 1. The moon 2, Jupiter 3, 4 Uranus, 5 Mercury, 6 Venus, 7 Neptune, 8 Saturn, 9 Mars. The days of the week also are given names for the days when each planet has greatest effect on earth. Mon(moon) Tues(mars) Wed(Mercury), Thurs(Jupiter), Friday(Venus) Sat (Saturn) Sun(Sun). Cont(final)
@dennisjr77 Did you watch the whole video or just stop at the statistic?
@Rattnuff That's overly simplistic, don't you think?
clicked what? anyway, was that below addressed to me? Because with a communal group, how would a form of government rise to power if everyone refuses to be lead by them?
Entropy and Order are opposite sides of the same coin, NEITHER can exist without the other. They, like all opposites, validate the existence of each other.
Uploader needs to fix the spelling of interview.
@ironicsomething No. A PhD usually lasts 5 years, you have to take 2 years of coursework, write research papers, and then do an original dissertation that contributes to human knowledge. The survey is probably part of his dissertation, dissertations are usually the size of a small book. Don't discredit PhD's, it takes a lot of work and effort.
@ironicsomething I will look up his dissertation so I can get a better picture of what his study was than a 5 minute interview.
The "Naturalist World View" is completely in line with the tenants of Judaism.
@ronocko lets look at the dino. Of course the appearance of the original dino could certainly change, but the results would always be within the dino species. This is clearly seen within the vast variety of the dog species. All of them are different and all of them are dogs. The bottom line is that mutation defiantly can change creatures, mostly for the worse occasionally for the better, but they never create a new type of creature.
@1978alexn Groups evolve not just single animals, We don't see transitions because everything is in transition you don't look like your parents exactly the small differences accumulate and when in nature certain beneficial adaptations will be chosen (by nature due to the fact they are better suited to survive under a current condition) and that trait will spread through the populace.
Pinpoint the exact moments you changed from a baby to a toddler to a child to a teenager to an adult...
I have absolutely zero points of reference for any of his allusions, but I think I understood what he meant generally. He was just suggesting that there are allot of people out there who are scientists in title only. Right?
I believe when he talks about religion being compatible or incompatible with evolution, he doesn't just mean Christianity, Judiasm or Islam, I believe he is referring to Naturalism, which can be considered a religion. Or you can consider it this way: Einstein once said "Science without religion is boring. Religion without science is blind." But Einstein also said that he didn't believe in a personal God. Steven Hawking also mentioned the "Mind of God" but he was referring to laws of physics.
Yes, you are right in that sense 100%, I agree. And as most (if not all) scientists are independent-minded, and most of them agree, then that produces a likely observation, do you agree? (By the way, I have no connotations of sarcasm or hostility here)
@TheMiles8619 agree. this guy has brains for sure.
interesting thesis. perhaps we can learn something from this if we actually read into it. because this runs concurrent with some of the input Ive also received over the last 10 years.
@1978alexn It's not disputed there may be life on other planets it's disputed the technology exists to traverse the galaxy nevermind the universe if there was intelligent life capable of the sort of travel we would have made contact with them via radio waves that we've sent out light years.
We haven't stopped evolving how many people do you see for example with a furrowed brow typical in our species uptill about 3000 - 4000 years ago, I already explained time is a key factor aswell as necessity
Fossils of Homo heidelbergensis have shown evidence of ceremonial burials, which implies a belief in an afterlife and therefore some form of religion. This is seen as one of the key points showing the development of intelligence in early humans. Greg is absolutely correct, religion is part of evolution.
Dr. Graffin is a smart guy. Little doubt exists about that. However, after listening to him explain his dissertation on test results that are completely obvious to those who pay attention to this stuff, I have to question the leniency of the critical methods Dr. Graffin's dissertation was afforded.
Science could be nothing more than a useful custom - D. Hume
Even through what you say, there can still be anarchy, people naturally want to do what is best for them, and if they open their eyes, everyone should see the hypocrisy of the common government. You're right, it cannot exist in it's ideal form, but there can be a form, of, even as you speak, because there will still need to be people to organize majority votes, corporation heads, and law that is determined by the people instead of 1 person, anyway, again good observation.
I very rarely take the majority rule for granted, I am an anarchist, I hardly ever go with common belief, however, on certain subjects, i
Mr Graffin "MAY" sound a little bit un-ortodox... But i HAVE to admit he got a LOT(!) of logical/non religious points here. As we ALL knew,knowlige evolves from thinking,NOT from religion...
He's always shown his depth of knowledge in his lyrics, if you don't think Greg Graffin is a fucking genious then you may have a deep seeded problem of your own!
this guy gets it ^
very good greg yet the question arises by itself: ¿why should we be compelled to accept a world view that makes compatible religion and evolutionary biology? LOVE BR by the way
Amen
Its funny how none of the top comments are about Bad Religion
In times of war:Johns very little brother had a corn to eat and asked his brother if he wants 1/2 John said he just had one..can u prove not ?Their father was watching them and didnt say a thing..probably his father was watching and didnt say a thing niether -but john didnt felt any hunger that night -u shouldnt feel any niether...how is that possible?i just made that up.
A man of intelligence would never question someones good will and charity so stop bothering ur mind - ur not alone here
@stevecash83 It isn't a matter of whether or not there is an absolute answer to the question of the existence of god; it's about what the implications of the answer would be. The ideas themselves are irrelevant; it's a question of how ideas lead people to live. Furthermore, if you're referencing the laws of logic, one never has to disprove a negation. The logical tautology of atheism holds until god is proven to exist.
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@Chanut83 Science is the pursuit of knowledge, and the scientific method is composed of fundamental building blocks of how we understand our world and the universe in which it resides. Only an unwise man would scoff at prior scientific endeavors, given that they don't consider the way in which the fountain of knowledge grows through trial and error. Life and existence are products of complex chemical reactions that can be mapped by mathematicians; the true facilitators of scientific consensus.
Waste of time bro
@Chanut83 Consider we scientifically, technologically and medically advance to a point where we "get rid of" death and aging, then what? I guess we'll scoff at ourselves.
oops, accidentally pressed enter. anyway, I was going to say: on certain subjects, I find it more logical to go with the majority, such as evolution, dinosaurs, ancient life, etc. NOT all the time though, you are correct.
I'm starting to like this guy better than Richard Dawkins the proselytizing atheist. I love it when Dawks attacks extremes however.
I pretty much agree that religion is a social tool and adaptation of humans. I am open to the "mystical" component of the "religious" experience, but I kinda feel that religion right now is causing a lot of problems in the world. I'm not so sure that biologicl "evolution" is going to a good place though b/c of all the chemicals/pollutants & things we're doing to ourselves-its almost as if we are in a race with ourselves to see which component will be destroyed the fastest....
@flatopguy Please forgive me for typing fast.
greg must have only just finished a phd recently and hes pushin 40 odd. before then its solid life experience. he is fuckin clever like
In sagacious dialog he don't despite their average way...
bill o'reilly tides you can't explain that
Yes, but what other way may we find out that evidence agrees if not by consulting a scientist, unless we are a scientist ourselves. They show the evidence when they have a lead, if they do not show these, or don't go along with them, they are merely "prophets".
I want him as my teacher
Ok, i guess you need a silly comment : I LOVE YOU GREG ! ENOUGH thanks !
I'm not a fan of generalizations. I can't speak for other disciplines but I'm 19 working on my Bachelor's in Political Science and if anything, I've learned to be skeptical. I'm not a moron. Indoctrination is a choice, I believe. Not every political scientist is going to be a liberal.
Nonetheless, your assumption could have some validity. I take things I and other people say with a grain of salt.
Academia isn't taught by the state, it's funded by the state. Politicians aren't the teachers.
It depends. If professors and teachers are telling students that evolution or theology or conservative business practice or liberalism IS "the way", then yes that is clearly attempted indoctrination. Luckily, I've only come across one professor like that. I believe "Submission Complete" is a BR song about this.
Narrow-minded beliefs/practices without understanding and considering alternative solutions, that is the result of indoctrination. It depends!
@ronocko you live in the circle, i look inside it.
I'm a big fan of Greg's, but I have to agree with some of the other posters in that I don't see the relevance of his study. What scientists believe on a philosophical subject is, in my opinion, scientifically irrelevant. It may have some interesting social implications, but this was for a science PhD.
Coolest teacher :D
Anarchy is, IMO, humanly impossible. As social animals humans group together due to our "Strength in Numbers" type instincts. In the group one or more will always be looked to for guidance, advice, etc making them informal leaders. Also since humans form groups, within these groups there will develop a set of rules, norms, mores, and taboos which is a fundamental system of law and order. Anarchy is an ideal, and nothing in it's ideal form can exist.
You look for knowledge on youtube?
you could say the same about religion. It is merely popular belief with no scientific backing. When you ask a scientist, I would not call him a "majority" in the sense that you mentioned.
The chicken definately came before the egg, so where did the chicken come from?
It evolved from a religious dinosaur, spared only by his relatives because they didn't eat chicken on Sunday.
@ethancfbz maybe a little. Dont think thats the reason a religion starts, but I do think that is what it becomes. A way to control. I wish I could write a novel and make hundred thousend ppl belive it so much that they would blow them self up for me
Entrophy or chaos? I prefer chaos, The Entrophy is degeneration of ordinated systems, chaos is Will, is tendence To disorder !
wuuuuuuuuuuurrrgggh deep and meaningfull comment passed down from wise elders
wHOLY shit theres a comet about to kill us all
#thoughts
Based on his music, youd swear he knows God...sometimes the conclusions we reach oppose our method of getting there....
love this dude. but hes to fuckin smart!
I am a Christan and I agree with him.
Denominations need not speak of God
No, it's just waiting for its ride home from the mall.
our idealogies/philosophies/reasoning or our biological/material self-it looks like both roads are headed to a very dark end at the rate that humans are moving ;-( Thank goodness for music
@TheMiles8619 Fuck yes!
@ronocko shoes will never turn into pants.
@JOHNLENNONWINZ Just ordered mine today!
Sounds like Napolean Dynamite.
@ronocko There's no clear cut this is baby this is toddler it sort of fades over periods days weeks months and years until you look nothing like you did before. With evolution this happens over many generations, we can observe it in bacteria because they have such short lives that we can see more generations in actual observable time.
Look at dogs artificially selected for another example all come from the grey wolf and look at the great diversity between all breeds today.
see: Science of Myth by Screeching Weasel
Any another thing for all little brains here how is it possible for a man ...and that is if u really know what are u really made of "if you made it to the point to undestand your originalitly (ur nature) " how could u ever question religions when the fist message is to get ur self to the point of being a God.
@ronocko ok I'm starting to believe you. so your sating that apes evolved from pigs from elephants from mamaths yes humans may have been once mamaths
THAT'S HOW THEY RATION THE POOR.
I would love to sit down with greg,, cook him dinner ( im a chef ) and just talk life.....
He wouldn't want that, go ahead and invite him...
@TheGreatthenate "and anyone who thinks that university=knowledge and education is an indoctrinated sheep"
+1 to that
@stevecash83 However it is not rational to choose to believe in something when no evidence supports your conviction. The only reason anyone believes in a god is to fill an emotional need. Having emotional needs is not a good reason to believe in a god. In my opinion comforting yourself with ideas like an afterlife is sign of weakness and denial, which is not ok. We have to confront ourselves with the truth: There is no god and the meaning of life is only what we make it. And that isnt bad : )
btw, relogion is made to control ppl. Thats it's only reason. Think about it
He hated religion so much he obtained a degree in evolutionary bio...
man, he knows many big words q;
@1978alexn then after that you can give my buddy a lying test as well. i bet your jaw will drop.
ggrrrhh gregs a slow talker haha
This is such a let down. I'll reserve my judgement when I see the thesis.
You can't make a bogus judgment about this interview alone. Go and actually read his dissertation. And saying that religion developed because of evolution is not philosophical. It's more psychological then it is philosophical. He goes more in depth as to why in,"Is Belief in God Good, Bad, or Irrelevant." Every action we make is triggered by either our hardwiring, education, or environment. The chemicals that flow through the brain and cause you to think the way you do are more biological.
A chicken and an egg were having sex. The chicken stopped and lit a cigarette . Guess that answers that question....
If he's so smart why can't he pronounce Zoology?
I believe that whale meat tastes like fish bacon.
Its not hard to belive that religion was manufactured by men or men evolution. When you have questions you try to answer them. When there was no science to support theorys, people just made up stories to answer their own questions ant then spred them around. I dont belive in god at all but I envy those that do because they will leave this world with much more ease than the ones that dont believe in god.