Chorus of Shame Leads to Disaster | Zack Bowen and Addie Hall
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- This video answers the question: Can I analyze the case of Zack Bowen and Addie Hall?
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I can really relate to Zach. I lost 10 years of my adult life due to schizophrenia. I'm way behind other people my age. For a long time, I felt like a total failure. Now I'm making up for the lost time and realizing that while some other people may view me as loser, it doesn't have to be the way I think of myself.
Only losing 10yrs, instead of the entire 2nd half of your life... Kudos!
Yes! That’s the spirit!❤️
I hope you continue do well and reach your goals
Proud of you
I've been outwardly very successful and lucky in my life. I didn't realize until recently that my successes were in spite of my self-destructive behavior and insecurities, not because of them. I am only saying this to point out that I feel like a failure constantly and wonder what I was doing with periods of my life all the time and you would probably never know it. I think it is true for many of us. I hope you're okay. Your relationship with yourself is so important.
"He proposed to her by asking if she wanted health insurance."
Ah, the American dream.
Hey, that's how my first husband proposed to me. Not kidding.
Living in a country with socialist healthcare, the US system seems quite ruthless.
It's just the way it looks from outside.
There is so much I love about the US, just not that part of it.
Literally. Lol
Waahaaahaaaa
You know what though, I’m with out health insurance after my divorce and if someone proposed to me and mentioned health insurance, well, let’s just say, it wouldn’t be a deal breaker. 😜
A sad example of constantly feeling worthless. Excellent analysis Dr. Grande!
Agree. This was a uniquely compassionate view of the tragedy.
And unfortunately so so many of Us feel this, without some higher sense of our purpose in the entirety of humanity it’s a tough road. Welcome to the ancient past in future time! 😜
@@cc.99. yes, unfortunately so many of Us
He felt worthless and even when he made a good choice he self-sabatoged so he would fail again. Very sad case all around.
I just turned 31 and the milestones shame is definitely a heavy cloud that is hard to escape from. That ending statement really hit home.
Never too late! ❤
You're young do what YOU want!
It is so funny how we try to measure our lives by these strange timeline goals set up by who, exactly?
Life is a journey and the only goals that matter are YOUR goals. Don’t let anyone else’s expectations make you feel less. Except Jesus. Listen to Him. And I’ve never seen anything from Him that said you had to have this material thing by that age or this relationship or that accomplished etc! Just to love, learn, think and strive toward the light, the good and the truth!
That’s all that matters!
@@lostandfound5145 American capitalism is in a period of decline or reversal, sort of a victim of its own success. Incomes are falling generally, while wealth flows to the top faster every day. Rather than nurturing the average man, which has never been a feature of American society over the past 250 years, capitalism distorts and destroys the human spirit in the individual's quest for simple food and shelter. This is one story in tens of millions.
You good sis . Give the good guys a chance
I'm so glad I found you! I quit watching all other analysis experts. You are the man!
oh…enjoy these days!! so many of us remember first discovering Dr. G and now we are just some long haulers but inhaling all of his content sure was fun 🤩
@@LiddlestLady Actually, been following him for several months now, but you are right!! And I am. Thanks.
@@countrygirl9059 oh okay, so you are there right along with the rest of us 😉
Finally Dr Grande did one of these on a person I actually knew. He was haunted by a situation in Iraq where he had killed a little kid.
As Kenny once said..."You gotta know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away and know when to run".
Words to live by
It's really sad when someone doesn't think they are worthwhile even before they do anything wrong. A lot of people have this sort of self sabotaging behavior and I've seen it ruin quite a few people's lives. Really sad. I wish the best for anyone who reads this.
Almost ruined mine.
So much abuse/neglect/abandonment in childhood. Maladapted brain patterns, hard to re-wire in adulthood.
I agree w/your statement, I've known many & lost many.
Figuring out your worth can be a lifelong task for some. Many blessings💓
@@Elhastezy888 in the process myself ig. It is helpful to see that it is not over, yet.
Thank you for the best wishes. It happened to me, took a very long time to get my life together, lost my youth. Still have some regrets. Wish I had a better childhood and more supportive parents.
@@wanderingnomad1 Same. Same.
I think I was one of those that suffered Stockholm syndrome but didn't know it.
Therefore I got away from the psychopath when I moved (about 20 years) but ended up back in contact later as a result of not being aware or healing the generational cycle.
She had the opportunity to ruin both our lives once again, financially, emotionally & psychologically.
The second time around was brutal but I learned the lessons.
So I too have regrets. I do my absolute best & found forgiveness.
One day at a time💕
@Elhastezy thanks, it’s amazing how our situations are similar. I too moved back in with this narcissist who provoked me. In the process , I ruined my own life and my sibling’s. I’m trying to get away and have my own life again.
"They tried to recapture the magic they experienced during the hurricane..." Lmao😁😆Dr. Grande, I feel guilty for laughing but....😅🤣 Please don't think badly of me.😅🤣
That is certainly plausible. My husband said his life "turned to shit" after Katrina, yet there were and still are people grifting it up down there, living from hotel to hotel paid for recovery and reconstruction services that they really don't deliver.
The pair in this video probably just enjoyed the anarchy, though.
@@bnic9471 Life is too rough when the chaos and destruction of a hurricane provides respite. Maybe we need to rethink our values in America. Just saying...😅🤣😆
@@toniemorrison4263 AMEN to that!!!
Well your analysis of Zach scared the crap out of me, because I too, have consistently (starting at about age 12), felt that my life has been one failure after another & that I’m trapped on this vicious cycle.
I do have major depression. I also have a past trauma that occurred at age 11.
I wonder if Zach had something happen to him in his development years, some kind of trauma? That would make a lot of sense as to his constant feeling of guilt. I feel the same way, even though I know that what happened to me wasn’t my fault.
I wish that Zach (and Addie) had been able to seek help for their psychiatric needs. Clearly through the use of illegal substances, they were both trying to escape from some serious pain.
Although cocaine smells great; it definitely amplifies one’s mental health issues!!
That’s the thing about getting help / therapy, a lot of people will avoid it because they don’t want to think or talk about their past. But the pain is there either way, so they self medicate with drugs / alcohol, which causes other problems. Therapy may take awhile to work, but soon you feel better and learn ways to cope with stuff. I realize it’s not easy, especially when depression is present. But even if you haven’t had things stacked against you in life, we all still fail at things on a regular basis. You have to decide to look at it as a learning experience, don’t do it that way again. We all make mistakes, no one is perfect - it may sound like clichés, but it’s also true. Life is hard for most of us, no matter what you see on social media!!
I struggled with this for a long time and I’ve discovered that once you realize that your worth is simply in your soul existing. God loves you just for existing. Not for anything you accomplish materially. Life is about growth, development, overcoming obstacles. And learning to be human. And choosing good or evil. All that other stuff is just a distraction.
You have to change the way you see failure. Did you know successful business owners usually fail 10-20 times on previous businesses before they succeed?
And think about anything. Like riding a bike. How many times do you “fail” before you “succeed”?
A failure is simply an opportunity for learning, growth and improvement. It does NOT define you or your worth at all!
It is simply an opportunity to take in critical feedback and strive forward.
Some of us fall a lot as we learn to walk. But it doesn’t make us any less deserving of love and respect.
I recommend training a puppy. You’ll see all the failures your puppy has in figuring things out. But you won’t shame the puppy. You won’t dislike the puppy. So why should you shame yourself for failing?
Last thing-try reading or listening to Dr Jordan Peterson’s book 12 Rules for Life.
It is a life changing book ❤️
Great analysis. This is my brother to a T (minus the murder and suicide) it helps me understand how he views himself. He is the same age, and was discharged from the Army. Many losses of jobs, drugs, can't have a baby, to boot my father kicks him while he is down. The craziest part? In order to prove to my dad he isn't a failure he re-enlisted into the Army just this January and is about to graduate from bootcamp again as a 42 year old man. It's all very sad, however I still support his efforts.
A feeling of worthlessness is how he started in life. He probably never had love and caring as a child - emotionally abandoned? It fuks you up for life. You have no idea.
A lot of us do know how that feels actually. How you react & conduct your life after that though is what matters. It either controls your future or you refuse to let it do that & break the cycle so you don't do the same to anyone else.
This story gave me chills and I’m only half way through. Dr. Grande, you deliver yet again. Great reminder to stay sober and away from abusive relationships
I think the fact he was deliberately crookedly sabotaging his sit ups was more important to the military than the sit ups themselves, and people who do crap like that instead of being honest deserve a general discharge.
A profound and compassionate view of this tragedy... A lot of us can relate on some level. The narrative you tell yourself about your life can become a self-fulfilling prophecy, not always in a good way. When the people who mean the world to you tell you that you're destined for failure since you're a child, you desperately need someone to tell you that they're wrong or else you'll end up proving them right.
and they're wrong, by the way...
Hello Dr. Grande. once again a very interesting case, very sad to see a man self
destroy himself due to a lack of self-esteem. You are extremely good at explaining to us what a person "might" be thinking before committing a terrible act. Thank you for the videos. Best Regards. 👍❤
It's funny, I was just watching one of your older videos (Jessica Heeringa case) when I got notified of this video. Dr. Grande is the gift that keeps on giving! 🙂
ABC did a true crime show about 8 yrs ago that did an episode on this case. It was well produced with higher production value than most crime shows. It was a very haunting episode.
Wow. What an incredibly and profoundly sad story for all involved.
I felt the same when I listened to this. It's pretty deep that whole milestone thing.
I have a good education, job, and friends but I think I'm a failure. Obviously not as extreme as this case but I think a lot of people believe they are failures due to what is perceived in media, social media and is advertised as life goals. Grande knocks it on the head. Especially as a male it's only aggravated.
Especially as a male? WTF is that supposed to mean?
@@gertrudewest4535 I don't know, I'm not a biologist
No man is a failure who has friends.
The expectations for females are high, both in appearance and in "having it all" - a successful career while raising phenomenal kids.
@@SKY-wt2pp Alright, Kitanji Brown Jackson.
"... they lived over a voodoo store. I don't know if they sold voodoo, or if they rented it. It's not clear..." 👀🤣🤣🤣😂 I love your sense of humour doc. Flawless delivery, per usual. Your analyses ALWAYS make me smile. Often they make me actually laugh out loud. Such a refreshing way to look at what is often pretty dark subject matter. I applaud your unique perspective, as well as your dry, satirical style. Thank you for brightening my day, yet again! 🧠🤔🧐🤭👌👏🙏
I saw this case on Paranormal Lockdown once. What always stayed with me when they investigated Addie's apartment is that the slumlord left the same 1960s white oven where body parts were found. You could still see and read the faintest outline of the black spray painted words Don't Look Inside (or something similar) which they had been unsuccessful in completely cleaning and removing. If it wasn't time for new appliances at that point, it never will be 😳
YES! That’s also how I heard about this case-and I was totally disgusted that the landlord left the actual same exact oven where Addie’s head had been stored, inside of that apartment. Wtf!
They did it on purpose, people visit or rent it just because of the crime. I believe it’s used as a rental/air bnb type of thing now.
@@Whoamidontknow17707 The ghost of the head does not haunt the oven. It's still in working order.
typical landlord behavior
OMG! That is completely unacceptable & disgusting to not replace that oven! Who does that? That’s taking cheap to a whole new level! Slumlord = Scumlord!
I also feel being a failure when I didn't reach certain milestone in my life. The shame feels so bad to the point I wanna die.
When you were talking about the “milestones of shame” I felt that in my gut like you were describing me perfectly. Then I had an annoying encounter with my narcissistic mother, I realized it didn’t describe me perfectly because the “milestones” I never measured up to weren’t/aren’t my own but rather HER milestones placed upon me. I don’t even have my own milestones because growing up it was like why even have goals because no matter what I do it will never be good enough for her. It seems like the more I learn about myself the more issues I have with my mom that I thought I’d gotten over.
Same.
It's so difficult. I've found Dr Druvasela Ramani is a magnificent teacher in all aspects of narcissistic behavior.
She is so flippin well versed & knowledgeable.
Watching her videos in the last year have helped me alot💓 not just knowledge is power kinda thing but it has helped me heal
Yes.
Another great channel is Surviving Narcissism just look up Dr Les Carter on YT.
i had the very same issues with my stepdad. i spent far too many years of my life feeling like shit for not being good enough. only when i cut my stepdad out of my life and get back into therapy have i really started to live and have confidence.
I hear you, my situation exactly, the shame leads you to self destructive behaviour. Now I’m trying to live life on my terms.
Thank you Dr Grande. If I have a panic attack I just have to listen to your calm voice to calm down. Spring colors look nice on you 👍 keep up the great videos
Thanks doc, your stories reaffirm that I am not so bad after all
Excellent analysis, Dr. G! Such a sad case, the situations involving military personnel always strike me harder 🥺 because (from personal experience) it is my opinion that the VA (and the Us Dept. Of Defense as a whole) often fail veterans ... Your milestone analogy is so poignant and eye opening (I couldn't help but think about my little boy and hope he never feels like he's not measuring up😔) .... Side note: Have you heard "Party In The USA" by Miss. Miley? That song slaps hard! I listen to it everyday on my morning run, it's #7 on my playlist🥳, I'll forever think of you everyday that I listen to it 🥰... I Love your channel and your brain and you, so, so, much, Dr. G... Thank you for sharing your knowledge 🤗😚♥️
Somehow I feel that Zach was discharged from the military for more than just sit ups. Anybody who can murder and cut a person up and stick body parts around the apartment would show themselves to be highly unstable to soldiers who live with and around them on a daily basis. The guy was seriously deranged and no doubt was obviously troubled.
Agreed. Feeling inadequate for missing a few societal expectations is WAY different from his premeditated, grotesque crime.
I thought he saw people being unalived
I'm surprised that PTSD didn't play a larger part in the story of Zack Bowen. This was a sad situation all around. Well done Dr. Grande!
PTSD was a bigger part of his story than stated here. His troubles started after a close friend was killed by a road side bomb. Another issue was when the Army refused to let him return to Germany to care for his wife when she was ill. Later he suffered flashbacks when the military took control of NO after Katrina.
I had met Zack, Addie too, a few months before the murder. There is a very good book about them titled Shake the Devil Off if you are interested
This is the only channel where, I believe, I've watched every video.
Pandemic silver lining.
Some twice or three times!
Same.
@@bthomson same here
I read “Addie Hall” as Adderall.
General Discharges are not given simply for slacking off on sit-ups. I would speculate he slacked off in other areas, too.
when Dr Grande said Zack started dating a man I was like "damn, wasn't expecting that" lol ; not that there is anything wrong with it but it was so random on the story line until then
I was surprised.
... Maybe he should have stuck with the guy, Addie was trouble.
(Not that he should have k1lled her, but she was bad news)
Seemed to come out of nowhere, didn’t it? Lol.
Maybe by then willing to try anything ( also not meaning any disrespect).
@neul song if he dated a man it doesn't necessarily mean he was gay, could be bi as well.
I’ve heard this story but never from this perspective, it’s so sad how he thought he was a failure no matter what he did. Thank you for Zack’s background doc, it definitely adds to what little I knew about the story!
As for the milestones, this is a conversation my husband and I have so often. I’m proud of where we are compared to where we started, he never thinks he’s doing enough.
Dear future grandmas and people in general…when someone tells you that they are expecting another child it is never loving to question the wisdom of procreating. Your job is to be supportive or at least not add to their insecurity
So informative! What a story and an analysis. Milestones of shame with behavior that triggers the shame. What an insidious cycle.
Mesmerizing.
Really hoping you make a video on all these kids coming out on tik tok saying they have autism/tourettes and or DID without being professionally diagnosed. Curious on your take!
I keep getting ads on there disguised as tik toks where a young person is giving examples of things that fit most people and saying if you do these things you probably have adhd.
You, dear reader, were born innocent and full of dignity.
You are worth love, and you are capable of good. Don't ever let shame or doubt get the best of you, be your best self.
this is such a thoughtful and sweet thing to say and i can only imagine your words mirror who you are. thank you
@@Shania69 absolutely 100%
This case and their relationship often gets romanticized. Nothing romantic about it, just dysfunctional and sad.
So much hate for my home state of New Jersey 🤣 it is completely warranted though. Thanks for the video, Dr. Grande, such a sad case. Wish he had gotten help before it was too late.
I would love to see New Jersey.
@@White-Michael935 go to long beach island and see Barnegat lighthouse, it's beautiful ❤️
For me, the analysis explains everything but the murder.
Murder is the action too far! Taking someone's life is the true sin.
The last part of this video was incredibly poignant. I really stopped and did some thinking. Thanks for putting this together Dr. G.
So much for the magic during a hurricane. Thanks for the breakdown of their personalities.
I am struck upon rewatching this, how you made a topic which is rather grim funny and interesting as well as thought provoking. While you normally have a high caliber of videos, this one was especially good. Thanks.
I wonder if this sort of thing isn't more common. For men, status is EVERYTHING. You miss a couple milestones and you can find yourself on the outskirts of society really quick unless you have the looks and charm to get around it. The shame compounds, the days fly by, and it gets harder and harder to catch up all while society keeps moving the goal posts on what makes a "real" man. He should have just gotten in good shape and became a con artist. Or lived on credit and moved to Thailand when the bank came knocking. But for that, he'd need to put down the drugs and focus.
Oh I so knew exactly what you were going to say about dying in NJ, but when you said it, it was still hilarious. True dedication to the deadpan style and I appreciate it Dr G 🙏
Same here. I was waiting for it. He cracks me up! 🤣
Empathetic and pragmatic commentary on yet another tragic case of a lost soul who served their country expecting the American dream to become reality then caused exponential damage when it all went wrong.
Hey Dr. Grande🥰 thank you for the new video!! I haven't yet watched it. I'm going to do so right now. I just wanted to make sure that you're very well aware how much all of your extreme hard work is very much so appreciated & valued❣️
Thank you for so thorough video. Maybe I looked in wrong places but most articles or other videos were almost jumping straight to the crime, focusing on how gruesome it was and so on. You are the first person to actually talk about Zack and what he was going through.
Wow, that was AMAZING Dr. Grande!! You definitely left something to think about!!❤
I’m a woman, just turned 30 last February, but everything you said in the second half has resonated with me for a long time. It’s been three years now of feeling like I’m back inside the maelstrom I was in at ages 13 to 21.
It feels like I’ve only really lived for six years. Everything else has been a waste. At first I had circumstances, people and surroundings to blame.
Now it’s clearer than ever that I took charge somewhere along the way. But instead of rising above or doing something meaningful with my life, like 13 year old me dreamed of, I wish I could give up quickly and painlessly.
Sorry for the novel. TH-cam is my diary. I’m a millennial, that’s my only excuse
😊 Don’t be sorry for expressing yourself. I’m not a millennial (just turned age 63 in May), and I too Also use YT as my Diary. Well actually I only just started doing so since February bcuz I find myself Between Jobs again, I’m Depressed and Bored. Oddly enuf tho, I find YT to be very therapeutic, as I’ll occasionally run across a comment that truly Resonates with me. Take care and I’m praying Blessing Upon Blessings to you and yours 🥰🤗💐💗
Good Evening. Dr. Grande.
🎉 So brilliant how are you articulated the symphony of guilt and disappointment in one's life....
Always waiting for Dr.Grande’s video! You are very well informed.Thank you for sharing your knowledge and analysis . Lol watching from Bakersfield 🙏🏻
Man poor Zack, the dude sounded like he deserved a break somewhere in his life but it just wasn't happening. It doesn't excuse him that he took the easy way out and killed someone who sounds like they were clearly mentally ill but I'm sure his story can resonate with a lot of people, including myself.
Same here, nobody deserves that. I can relate.
@little drane Have you considered starting a TH-cam channel on how to be a slum lord?
Dr Grande, thankyou for your consistent , captivating and fantastically presented videos. You explain in a way that I'm sure many if not all of us are able to understand perfectly. Thankyou again for your dedication and commitment to what you do so well, I get so excited every time I am notified of your new videos.
Best regards, a friend from New Zealand
A screwed up young man who picked wrong women and his kids now suffer for it. What a hot tragic mess.
Gasp! It's time for Dr Grande's pink shirts and such! (and really good content, like this upload) Yayy! Happy spring, Grande channel family!
Your conclusions about inappropriate guilt and it’s consequences are excellent! It seems almost like the inappropriate guilt caused him to have terrible case of cognitive dissonance.
I was thinking just last week, “I wish Dr. Grande would analyze the Zack & Addie story”, and here we are! Can’t wait to watch! Thank you!
Let's hope he will...
Bourbon street experiences can quickly go downhill.
Such a terribly sad story brought me to tears
that milestone idea I used to go through until I realized everyone is different and great things come in time.
Best description I've ever heard regarding this. It makes me think of family annihilators. But in its typical milder form, it's about comparing how one rates regarding superficial things, and dwelling under the glare of harsh self judgment equating to a deflation of self worth.
That milestone timeline you describe is exactly how I've always viewed my own life. Due to mental health issues, my 20s were a total bust despite great academic achievements since childhood. Months before my 30th birthday, I decided that my life was a complete failure because I had not lived up to my potential, had no career, no husband, and no child. My mother and two of my sisters had all those things by age 30, and I'd grown up being praised for my high intelligence, yet achieved nothing. Clearly I'm a waste of life, I thought, so I resolved to kill myself.
Oddly enough, a major progress in my artistic pursuits made me decide to get professional help instead; I realized it would be a waste to throw away all that effort and achievement, despite the fact that it was a small hobby rather than a job. So I got intensive therapy, including antidepressants for the first time, and gradually let go of that milestone timeline I'd grown up measuring myself against. I still recall what one therapist said after hearing my reasons to kill myself: "Isn't 30 an arbitrary number? Why not 22, or 47, or 56?" That little question gave me a lot of perspective.
Excellent video 📹
NO EXCUSES '
Most peoples' lives are unfulfilled.
But we are blessed with people around us: our family, friends, children , our partners ❤, our social life.
People always start new careers, our old career does a natural death
There are no excuses for any crimes.
Never.
Great analysis again. Good way to pass the afternoon here. Thanks Dr G😊💚💚
Zena - What did we ever do before on a slow boring afternoon?
@@bthomson Haha phones and YT sure have changed life yes📞🖥😉
@@zenawarrior7442 and don't forget 💅 ✍ 🍺🍺🍺 🥴
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@@LDiamondz 😉💌👍🍻
My guess is that he never felt he lived up to mommie's expectations, and feeling defeated, he sabotaged himself repeatedly. What he needed was a daily Dr. Grande fix!
Dr. Grande, can you please do an analysis on the documentary Bad Vegan? Would love your take on it
Second that. I cannot believe a woman of her age and intelligence could be swayed so easily into fantasy just like a little child can. That is fascinating to me. I am very interested in hearing Dr. G’s speculation about what could be happening in a situation like that.
Yet more data that mental health care needs to be more affordable, available and as acceptable/nonjudgemental as physical medical care.
Thanks for covering this case. I have always wondered what was going on with these two to end so badly.
Tragic case but the insightful analysis gave me a deeper understanding of the dynamics. Thank you, Dr. Grande. There's a heartbreaking murder case in England that involves Damian Rzaszowski who killed his wife, baby and young child, father-in-law, a friend and her daughter during a family barbecue.
@@cht2162 Apparently not ;)
This video hit far closer to home than I thought it did especially at the end, huh. Its got me thinking now. Cool
Dr grande can you please analyze the case of Anthony Sowell?!!
I’m so happy the VA gave me meds to normalize my brain. I love being normal.
Oh.
This. Case.
If any of y'all would like to go down the Zack and Addie rabbit hole, it's wild.
Even after they died.
best analysis thus far Dr Grande!
The insight of this analysis is powerful! Thank you for this solid case.💫Terrific analogy / effective illustration 12:37-16:22
I don't feel sorry for Zach. He murder his ex, abused her dead body, cut her up in small pieces, and scattered her body parts to rot. This is beyond the behavior of someone who feels like he failed. And he was not wrong about the failing part. The truth was he failed because of personal choices he made. He planned a part in his education, the women he dated, he behavior in the military, and the murder he commited.
I love your analysis but I love your dry sense of humor even more!!! You are by far one of my favorites on TH-cam!!! ❤
How 'bout " by far?"
@@bthomson Typo, I corrected it. Lol.
A general discharge usually means that the service member was purposely trying to get out of the service. It does turn to an honorable discharge after 3 years.
Thanks again, Dr. Grande. 😊
Dang. That milestone thing hits home real hard. The worst part for Zach, that I think was left out, was living in Kosovo an already being married and committed to being a father. Kosovo is home to the most beautiful women in the world, I can't even imagine how he would feel about having a horrible wife that leaves him after staying committed there. And Addie is so close to a relationship I had both in her appearance and attitude. I really feel for the guy in this one
So, 2 things… I’m a combat veteran, who has a “general discharge”. Under honourable conditions. Exactly the scenario Dr recognises. That isn’t NEARLY as devastating as doc suggests. I get more respect than anyone who wasn’t a combat vet. It’s not a problem(especially since my discharge is seriously only a issue of my discharge date, and signing back up for the reserves, sorta by accident, but I have a year in Iraq, with a good conduct discharge. Red tape left me a general discharge under honourable conditions… but DO NOT affect my life. It’s all good,and not the devastating condition dr grande suggested. I still have va benefits, I still am in contact with my brothers and sisters in arms(since the idea of them disowning me would be INSANE). All Americans deserve health care. ALL!!! Just cause I chose a different job than when I was 18… doesn’t give this government the tight to trample on ours.
Is what sense do they "deserve" it?
@@eadweard. because they live in the richest country in the history of the world,and are part of a legacy of humans who have built a history of infrastructure, which should allow everyone health care.
Your comparisons are priceless.
Unbelievably fascinating story! I have to remind myself to hit the like button 🙃 so... ya'll hit the like button!!👍
Always do.✔
What a heartbreakingly sad story. 😢
New Orleans born and raised ..I remember when this incident happened. Another great analysis, Dr. Grande.
God Bless You, Jhanimal Luvr 🙏 I'm still here, never left.
Just starting the video, very interested to hear their story from you. I stayed at the house overnight w/a group about 3 years ago while it was being renovated. We were not told anything about the place except that it’s “potentially haunted” but everything is haunted in Nola.😉 Anyway, it was hinted at that the story had something to do with Katrina. I didn’t see any paranormal evidence but when asked I remember saying I got a really uneasy feeling in the kitchen but thought I sounded silly bc that didn’t seem to fit a Katrina style haunting.😂 After hearing what actually happened it gave me chills! 😮
I have taken for granted achieving these milestones. Wife, kids, mortgage, worthy career etc.
This so really horrible, this young man worked to better himself and then it went wrong. A tragedy all around. I hope the wee children are ok.
Chorus of Shame! Now I know what to title my autobiography. Thank you Dr. Grande.
Aw come on Brian! Not that bad! How 'bout Great Guy?
"It's so bad, it can't be ignored" lol 😆 😂 😅 🤣 😭
In all the choices his life presented, it's almost like he chose each one based on its potential to further his circle down the drain.
This is as much a tragedy as it seems! Each step lower and lower.
The last part really got to me…in a eye opening type of way Dr
Hey dude idk if you will over look this, but I was wondering if u could analyze this crazy lady from our neck of the woods. Her name is Jeannine Jaramillo. She recently killed 2 members who served the NM state. It's a terrible ending, but it feel you would have a good time analyzing this character...
So, you're from Delanowhere, too? I'm from Jersey. Just kidding. Dr.Grande is so funny with the Jersey jokes. 🤣🤣
I'm mostly just angry that he didn't pay his tab at the Omni rooftop lounge. You just know some crappy manager made the worker cover it
Dr Grande! You should do a video on body builder Liver King!
Sad life for Zack.
Love the humor.
Thank you.
Peace 💕🇺🇸
MF - I was a hippie and I relate to your "peace" ending! Ukraine is very sad😓
Dr Grande is spot on in this analysis of what might be going on in a case like this.
And the Miley Cyrus nod is epic! EPIC!!