Most of all the first hand! Where you discuss the AA... to let him lead and then get most value at river! Can you provide me with a link to where to find the sheets you are using! That is definetely next step for me! Thank you so much for Therese free videos They have been more than helpfull I just need THAT Cash here in Greece sogn, so I can afford a full subscription !
@henriklindahl6919 those aren't sheets, that's a software, PioSolver. (Warning, you need a very strong computer to run simulations in a reasonable time)
Not a damn thing. The production value of this video is crap. Wild difference in volume between you and Justin. You talk way to fast anyway - I'm sure you know this - but it was impossible to hear your comments when Justin's voice is booming across the speakers. He jumps around in pio solver constantly with his mouse. Am I supposed to track what is showing (and rapidly changing) on the screen or listen to you guys talk? He interrupts you and talks over you - yeah, HE understands what you're saying but forget giving the audience a chance to catch up. It seems that Justin's main goal is to show us all how smart/good he is, rather than actually trying to get the audience to understand the point. Get your shit together, Jonathan. You're better than this.
Make a video about getting the most value from nut hands. It is a very overlooked topic. People assume its easy, but often overplay their nut hands and dont get as much value as they should
Wow. I've been binging your channel for about a year, and this might be the single most interesting video I have seen yet. If I had seen this video earlier, I would have never understood it. Even today I don't fully understand this, but, this video really helped me conceptualize what it *really* means to "construct a range" or "find bluffs", in practice. As with much of your content, I look forward to eventually revisiting this video with a better understanding of how to apply what it teaches.
I'm with you. And it's funny, I play online quite a bit and when I do Bluff 85% of the time my opponent has the nut hand that would never be folding. Bad timing I guess lmao
You can only bluff if your opponent is ranging you. If they aren't, bluffs are bad plays. Don't project your strategy on opponents. They are probably playing a shittier strategy than you.
At 11:25, can anyone tell me what distinguishes the hands 9d9c from 9h9c? why did 9h9c make it here half as often. Did they stop the solver early or something?
Nobody plays GTO. The solver is useful in understanding how your hand relates to the board and what your cards block/unblock. Online the problem becomes how to think fast enough to use this information. I can't, but I can think ranges and what the betting implies about those ranges. I can see blockers to some small amount which is an edge. But I can't play even close to GTO.
Agreed. All these coaches are scamming people. Selling range charts to "play like the pros", but the pros don't use them, ever. They are basically setting themselves up with thousands of fish, using a system they made, so they can be easily beat. They tell everyone to play gto, but they play exploitative, which means they are going to win more. They basically set up a soft game, world wide they can beat by telling everyone to play a certain way. It's all a scam. Why would I buy charts and graphs nobody uses? It's no different that cheap magic trick sets that come with crappy magic tricks, made for kids. A real magician will destroy a 7 year old using beginner magic. Same thing in poker. Give everyone a 9.99 magic set when you're a 40 year professional. Who's going to be better in every situation? The pro.
A ten of diamonds on river could give KQdd a straight flush vs. your J hi straight flush if you got an 8d. The ten of diamonds always will make the best straight flush. Maybe this plays a tiny role why on the turn we should bet 8hi flushes more than 10 hi flushes?
@jameshinton429 AA is the best starting position. Getting pole position in a race doesn't guarantee a win. Starting first just gives you a head start. Plenty of time to catch up. A pair isn't much of a hand. Also, the percentage of hitting a set from a pocket pair or a pair on the board doesn't outweigh the percentage of your opponent hitting 2 pair on the flop. All this gto stuff is nonsense because it only works over millions of hands. Cash games and tournaments aren't being played to a million hands so the variance is going to be super dramatic when you actually play. Take any million hand gto statistics and choose any random 500 hand section. That Is a lot closer to what you will experience in actual play. AA doesn't usually hold up over a smaller sample size of 500 or 1000 hands. It usually gets beat. For gto to really work you would need to sit down and play 1 million hands in a row without ever getting up and leaving. No game last that long. Gto only averages out over a million hands though. If you only had 10 or 100 hands to play, variance is going to be huge.
@@DrSpoculus here’s what I know. When I shove aces preflop, I generally win the hand. It weeds out mediocre hands and usually only premiums will call and pay me off. I block some straights, flushes and am dominating preflop. For me it works well. I’ll take a call or the blinds, either way, my chips are in the pot with the best hand. My money making hands are more hidden, like 45. You play how you want, I’ll stick with what works for me.
These spots are honestly useless for 99.9% (if not more) of the population. Unless you play nl500 online or more AND play poker for a living, it's more likely to mislead you than to help you. Just jam the AA lol the rate at which people raise massively with nothing vs utg with 40bb is next to non-existent. You're not play against an AI poker-stockfish/alphago you're playing some bloke in a 11$ mtt who's trying to make a quick buck
What 1 lesson did you learn from Justin Saliba in this video that you are going to use at your next poker tournament? 🚀
I learned I'll probably lose.
Most of all the first hand! Where you discuss the AA... to let him lead and then get most value at river! Can you provide me with a link to where to find the sheets you are using! That is definetely next step for me! Thank you so much for Therese free videos They have been more than helpfull I just need THAT Cash here in Greece sogn, so I can afford a full subscription !
@henriklindahl6919 those aren't sheets, that's a software, PioSolver. (Warning, you need a very strong computer to run simulations in a reasonable time)
Not a damn thing. The production value of this video is crap. Wild difference in volume between you and Justin. You talk way to fast anyway - I'm sure you know this - but it was impossible to hear your comments when Justin's voice is booming across the speakers. He jumps around in pio solver constantly with his mouse. Am I supposed to track what is showing (and rapidly changing) on the screen or listen to you guys talk? He interrupts you and talks over you - yeah, HE understands what you're saying but forget giving the audience a chance to catch up. It seems that Justin's main goal is to show us all how smart/good he is, rather than actually trying to get the audience to understand the point. Get your shit together, Jonathan. You're better than this.
Make a video about getting the most value from nut hands. It is a very overlooked topic. People assume its easy, but often overplay their nut hands and dont get as much value as they should
Wow. I've been binging your channel for about a year, and this might be the single most interesting video I have seen yet. If I had seen this video earlier, I would have never understood it.
Even today I don't fully understand this, but, this video really helped me conceptualize what it *really* means to "construct a range" or "find bluffs", in practice.
As with much of your content, I look forward to eventually revisiting this video with a better understanding of how to apply what it teaches.
Great video. Love the detailed breakdown 😊
I'm glad you think so!
Great work gentlemen. Always enjoy Mr Saliba's solver work
Man poker never gets boring lol there's always so much more to learn. I'm clearly not bluffing enough, and I bluff quite often
I'm with you. And it's funny, I play online quite a bit and when I do Bluff 85% of the time my opponent has the nut hand that would never be folding. Bad timing I guess lmao
@@msladebeatz when our guts tell us to bluff, we should take that as a sure sign to fold 🤣
@@vandal280 absolutely lmao 🤣
You can only bluff if your opponent is ranging you. If they aren't, bluffs are bad plays. Don't project your strategy on opponents. They are probably playing a shittier strategy than you.
Great analysis
The one lesson I learned? There is a LOT about poker I don't know.
Justin is a great coach!
Fantastic episode!
At 11:25, can anyone tell me what distinguishes the hands 9d9c from 9h9c? why did 9h9c make it here half as often. Did they stop the solver early or something?
Combos and blockers.
Nobody plays GTO. The solver is useful in understanding how your hand relates to the board and what your cards block/unblock. Online the problem becomes how to think fast enough to use this information. I can't, but I can think ranges and what the betting implies about those ranges. I can see blockers to some small amount which is an edge. But I can't play even close to GTO.
Agreed. All these coaches are scamming people. Selling range charts to "play like the pros", but the pros don't use them, ever.
They are basically setting themselves up with thousands of fish, using a system they made, so they can be easily beat.
They tell everyone to play gto, but they play exploitative, which means they are going to win more.
They basically set up a soft game, world wide they can beat by telling everyone to play a certain way. It's all a scam.
Why would I buy charts and graphs nobody uses? It's no different that cheap magic trick sets that come with crappy magic tricks, made for kids.
A real magician will destroy a 7 year old using beginner magic. Same thing in poker. Give everyone a 9.99 magic set when you're a 40 year professional.
Who's going to be better in every situation? The pro.
Where do I download the sheet used in the lesson?
2:20 why is A6 suited not played as well as A2s A3s ???
Lack of straight and straight flush outs
@@TyeBearSaroar thanks for the reply
what software is he using?
what solver are they using, whats it called
Piosolver
A ten of diamonds on river could give KQdd a straight flush vs. your J hi straight flush if you got an 8d. The ten of diamonds always will make the best straight flush. Maybe this plays a tiny role why on the turn we should bet 8hi flushes more than 10 hi flushes?
I like to overplay aces. Typically the only way I can win with those. I’d shove for sure, especially with the over bet.
AA is just a pair. Lots of stuff beats a pair.
@@DrSpoculus not preflop.
@jameshinton429 AA is the best starting position. Getting pole position in a race doesn't guarantee a win. Starting first just gives you a head start. Plenty of time to catch up.
A pair isn't much of a hand. Also, the percentage of hitting a set from a pocket pair or a pair on the board doesn't outweigh the percentage of your opponent hitting 2 pair on the flop.
All this gto stuff is nonsense because it only works over millions of hands. Cash games and tournaments aren't being played to a million hands so the variance is going to be super dramatic when you actually play.
Take any million hand gto statistics and choose any random 500 hand section. That Is a lot closer to what you will experience in actual play. AA doesn't usually hold up over a smaller sample size of 500 or 1000 hands. It usually gets beat.
For gto to really work you would need to sit down and play 1 million hands in a row without ever getting up and leaving. No game last that long. Gto only averages out over a million hands though.
If you only had 10 or 100 hands to play, variance is going to be huge.
@@DrSpoculus here’s what I know. When I shove aces preflop, I generally win the hand. It weeds out mediocre hands and usually only premiums will call and pay me off. I block some straights, flushes and am dominating preflop. For me it works well. I’ll take a call or the blinds, either way, my chips are in the pot with the best hand. My money making hands are more hidden, like 45. You play how you want, I’ll stick with what works for me.
89cc hand is blocking 78cc and 79cc but I doubt those hands are in his range with b60 on the turn.
1st hand, Barry who? Greenstein?
my head hurts
Stop playing online, play live games, and always be carefull and don't rush the play
These spots are honestly useless for 99.9% (if not more) of the population. Unless you play nl500 online or more AND play poker for a living, it's more likely to mislead you than to help you. Just jam the AA lol the rate at which people raise massively with nothing vs utg with 40bb is next to non-existent. You're not play against an AI poker-stockfish/alphago you're playing some bloke in a 11$ mtt who's trying to make a quick buck
Its best just to play poker and not fast play as much...
You here all this GTO talk but when they on the table believe me they are just guessing.