Jay Smith Historical Critique Quran Origins 1
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So glad to see your new posts Dr Jay 👍🏼 your research has helped me understand prophecy regarding Isaiah 34 and 63 better. May the Lord bless you.
16. And mention in the Scripture Mary, when she withdrew from her people to an eastern location.
17. She screened herself away from them, and We sent to her Our spirit, and He appeared to her as an immaculate human.
18. She said, “I take refuge from you in the Most Merciful, should you be righteous.”
19. He said, “I am only the messenger of your Lord, to give you the gift of a pure son.”
20. She said, “How can I have a son, when no man has touched me, and I was never unchaste?”
21. He said, “Thus said your Lord, `It is easy for Me, and We will make him a sign for humanity, and a mercy from Us. It is a matter already decided.'“
22. So she carried him, and secluded herself with him in a remote place.
23. The labor-pains came upon her, by the trunk of a palm-tree. She said, “I wish I had died before this, and been completely forgotten.”
24. Whereupon he called her from beneath her: “Do not worry; your Lord has placed a stream beneath you.
25. And shake the trunk of the palm-tree towards you, and it will drop ripe dates by you.”
26. “So eat, and drink, and be consoled. And if you see any human, say, ‘I have vowed a fast to the Most Gracious, so I will not speak to any human today.'“
27. Then she came to her people, carrying him. They said, “O Mary, you have done something terrible.
28. O sister of Aaron, your father was not an evil man, and your mother was not a whore.”
29. So she pointed to him. They said, “How can we speak to an infant in the crib?”
30. He said, “I am the servant of God. He has given me the Scripture, and made me a prophet.
31. And has made me blessed wherever I may be; and has enjoined on me prayer and charity, so long as I live.
32. And kind to my mother, and He did not make me a disobedient rebel.
33. So Peace is upon me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the Day I get resurrected alive.”
34. That is Jesus son of Mary-the Word of truth about which they doubt.
35. It is not for God to have a child-glory be to Him. To have anything done, He says to it, “Be,” and it becomes.
36. “God is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path.”
37. But the various factions differed among themselves. So woe to those who disbelieve from the scene of a tremendous Day.
38. Listen to them and watch for them the Day they come to Us. But the wrongdoers today are completely lost.
39. And warn them of the Day of Regret, when the matter will be concluded. Yet they are heedless, and they do not believe.
40. It is We who will inherit the earth and everyone on it, and to Us they will be returned.
@@abukhamis9329 This is what muslim belief. We dont.
@@abukhamis9329 That what the muslim believe. We dont
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70. We made a covenant with the Children of Israel, and We sent to them messengers. Whenever a messenger came to them with what their souls did not desire, some of them they accused of lying, and others they put to death.
71. They assumed there would be no punishment, so they turned blind and deaf. Then God redeemed them, but then again many of them turned blind and deaf. But God is Seeing of what they do.
72. They disbelieve those who say, “God is the Messiah the son of Mary.” But the Messiah himself said, “O Children of Israel, worship God, my Lord and your Lord. Whoever associates others with God, God has forbidden him Paradise, and his dwelling is the Fire. The wrongdoers have no saviors.”
73. They disbelieve those who say, “God is the third of three.” But there is no deity except the One God. If they do not refrain from what they say, a painful torment will befall those among them who disbelieve.
74. Will they not repent to God and ask His forgiveness? God is Forgiving and Merciful.
75. The Messiah son of Mary was only a messenger, before whom other Messengers had passed away, and his mother was a woman of truth. They both used to eat food. Note how We make clear the revelations to them; then note how deluded they are.
76. Say, “Do you worship, besides God, what has no power to harm or benefit you?” But God: He is the Hearer, the Knower.
77. Say, “O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion beyond the truth; and do not follow the opinions of people who went astray before, and misled many, and themselves strayed off the balanced way.”
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May the grace of our Lord and God Yeshua Christ, be with us all.
Thank you for sharing this information
To all the Muslims watching this, please don't immediately shut down any points he makes in this video. It was when I stopped shutting down arguments and actually took valid criticism, was when I came to realize the truth of Islam. You don't have to give up on God and prophethood if Islam is wrong, Christianity is more than capable to accommodate those beliefs. Don't be scared to seek the truth, because it will set your free!
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Beautiful!
Where is the 10 commandments in the Quran?
Certainly doesn't appear the Quran has them as important by what it sets against them.
All Religions are fake!!
Your lectures really help me ...Our God bless you and give you wisdom
😂😂😂 his lecture helped you YET you ask your God to give him wisdom. I know he's as unwise as a wild donkey.
@@limanoor7081 .....may the true God give YOU wisdom to know the truth and be saved before it is too late. You do not need to live in fear...you can know peace and security for all eternity by putting your faith in Jesus as your savior.
The main reason why I like Dr. Smith is because he is so enthusiastic. He loves giving a lecture and communicating his convictions.
Great work
i respect Jay despite being a nonchristian. he becomes completely rational and atheistic while dissecting islam and is much appreciated by all
Greetings from Pakistan.
Dr Jay Smith is my hero. I have learned so much from him. He is a man of God. Much love and respect✊❤️
may your country one day come to the Truth.
the Truth - they have their own version of truth which is not helping them at all. if anything it is a reason for the barbarity of those lands.
Christians believe in One God. One God that has unique characteristics as revealed to humanity. your prophet was disobedient to God's revelation but it's not surprising as he took his cues from heretical Christians like Arius and heretics don't subscribe to full teachings. your faith is a heretical version of Christianity with mixed in elements of 7th century pagan arabia and persian folk tales.
All religions are copy/paste from the sumerian stone tablets Proven fact. All 3 fake Abram (Abrahamic) bull shit faiths are so twisted & mixed with Sumerian, brahmanism, zoroastrianism, judaism, egyptology, sun & moon worship beliefs. It's Even more pagan than most ppl know. PROVEN FACT!
Jamal Khan you’re hero 🙉🙊🙈 this guy jay is a complete and utter liar. I am a Muslim and what he says about Islam is nonsense. When he has to lie about a religion. Then you know you cannot trust what ever he says. Iqra read the Quran you’re self.
Dr Smith thank you, you are the proof 111 of the modern time, may God bless you and give you wisdom
I love your lectures. God bless you.
But why do you love them? To which extend having one religious believer diminushing the value of someone else sacred texts is of value to you?
Thank you for helping me understand this
i love watching Dr Jay lecture. his speaks crystal clear and full of information
He is a liar.
@@Whatyousee1 MUHAMMAD WAS A LIAR RUBBISH QURAN VERSE MOON SPLIT INTO TWO SUN, SETS IN A MUDDY POOL TOTALLY RUBBISH
PURITY OF HEART have you checked what he and katun does in speakers corner. You see he is a liar. I am Muslim and I know my religion. He constantly lies and laugh at Muslims because we worship one lord with no partners. Allah sent down messengers Ibrahim, Noah, Solomon, Moses, Jesus and Mohammed pbuh. All messengers from the beginning. Why now end of days Jesus was sent as a son of god also a god. Jesus never said himself that he is a son of god or that he was god. He never said worship him. Shame you listen to that liar jay smith. He is a devil in human form. If you follow him, he will lead you to hell fire. If he actually spoke the truth about Islam the Quran and Mohammed he could not say a bad word. That’s why the fastest growing religion in the world ISLAM. 2 billion practicing Muslim.
He talks a lot of bull sh*t
Jesus not son of God. th-cam.com/video/9Az7NoZ8jCs/w-d-xo.html
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Not sure about the dirham part, I think the word Dirham became an Arabic world to refer to the foreign coins (Drachma) before the actual Dirham coin was introduced.
Too good new information! God bless you.
Thare is no true information
Can we get the slides for the presentation?
So much love for truth❤
Very interesting study. But a question on your early slides: If it was written in 652 after Mohammed's death in 632, then it was written after 20 years. Is this correct?
The majority of Muslims are just like the majority of those claiming to be Christians, neither reads their religion's holy book ... This is a sad state for humans ...
God bless you
The journey of the Quran, which began to be revealed to Prophet Muhammad during the month of Ramadan in 610, in its original form to the present day is a characteristic that none of the previous sacred books have.
The companions of Prophet Muhammad, who were great people, played an important role in the compilation of the Quran, leaving an interesting story behind.
12 People
During the 23 years of Muhammad's time as a prophet, the verses of the Quran were memorized as they were revealed, and about 42 scribes wrote the verses on different materials such as paper, cloth, bone fragments and leather.
In ancient times, literacy was a skill that few people had and Muhammad himself did not know how to read or write.
During the time of Caliph Abu Bakr, when 70 people who knew the Quran by heart (qari), were killed in the Battle of Yamama, Umar ibn al-Khattab became concerned and appealed to Abu Bakr in order to compile the Quran into a book.
Abu Bakr formed a delegation under the leadership of Zaid ibn Thabit, one of the leading scribes.
This delegation of 12 people, including famous figures such as Uthman ibn Affan, Ali ibn Abi Talib, Talha ibn Ubaydullah, Abdullah ibn Masood, Ubayy ibn Kab, Khalid ibn al-Walid, Hudhaifah and Saleem, came together in Umar's house and collected all the materials on which verses from the Quran were written.
In addition, the verses memorized by the companions were heard as well. Each of them was asked to show two witnesses for the verse they read.
Mushaf
Thus, all the verses of the Quran that describe the creation of the universe and people, judgment day, exemplary stories of the people who lived before and the beliefs, worship, morals and legal bases that believers should obey were collected together into a single-volume book. Each of the verses was taught by the archangel Gabriel and declared by Prophet Muhammad. The verse is the name given to each sentence of the Quran and the surah is the name given to each part of the holy book. There are 6,236 verses, 114 surahs and about 323,000 letters in the Quran.
Saeed ibn al-Aas, who was renowned for the beauty of his handwriting, wrote them down on gazelle skin. The writing used was the Arabic script of the time, which was already old and used commonly at that time in Hejaz.
The companions reached a consensus that this writing, which was used by Prophet Ismail in Hejaz, is the writing of Muslims.
The copy of the Quran was recited to the companions at a general meeting. There was no objection. So, a book called "mushaf" emerged, which means written verses.
A total of 33,000 companions agreed that every letter of the Quran was in the right place. Then this mushaf was sent to Umar ibn al-Khattab. After his death, this book passed on to Hazrat Hafsah, the daughter of Umar and a wife of Prophet Muhammad.
Dialect of Quraysh
A difference was observed in the recitation of the Quran in the Armenia battles between Muslims from Damascus and Iraq during the period of the third caliph, Uthman.
Hudhaifah, one of the companions, went before the caliph on his way back from an expedition and asked him to prevent this.
On the 25th year of the hijra (647), Uthman gathered a delegation attended by Abdullah ibn al-Zubair, Saeed ibn al-Aas and Abd al-Rahman ibn Harith under the leadership of Zaid ibn Thabit. All of them, except for Zaid, were from Quraysh. Uthman said that the dialect of Quraysh should be preferred if they were to fall into conflict with Zaid regarding the dialect, since Muhammad was from the Quraysh tribe. The Quran had been revealed in seven dialects of the Arabic language of the time.
The first Muslims who were literate could easily read the writing of their own language, but somewhat differently, since at the time the Arabic script did not have diacritical marks to differentiate letters or vowel symbols.
For example, those from the Tameem tribe pronounced the letter "sin" as "te" and read the word "nas" as "nat." It was diverse and convenient, and did not change the meaning.
The delegation brought the original mushaf from Hafsah. In this mushaf, the surahs were not separated from each other. The surahs were sorted according to the order of their descent in Ali's manuscript and according to their lengths in the manuscript of Abdullah ibn Masood.
Now the verses were written in the Quraysh dialect. The surahs were arranged in rows, separated from each other regarding their length and alignment with each other. The order of the surahs was not based on the order the archangel Gabriel gave them to Prophet Muhammad, but on the consensus of the companions.
Seven copies
The old copies were destroyed to prevent future conflicts. Because of this, there are some Shia sects that accusing Uthman of changing the Quran.
From the new copy, some mushafs were also written on parchment and sent to different places such as Bahrain, Damascus, Basra, Kufa, Yemen and Mecca, accompanied by a qari. There are also rumors that copies were sent to Egypt and Jazeera.
The copy that stayed with the caliph was called al-Mushaf al-Imam (the head mushaf). There is no difference between the mushafs recited around the world today since they were all copied from original copies.
Thus, the Quran was written during Muhammad's lifetime, while its compilation was done during the caliphate of Abu Bakr and it was copied during the caliphate of Uthman.
Uthman also established special schools for the correct recitation and writing of the Quran. During the caliphate of Ali, saw the introduction of diacritical marks. During the time of Umayyad Caliph Abd al-Malik, vowel marks were also added.
Since then, countless Muslims have memorized the Quran. In the month of Ramadan, the entire Quran is recited in the Tarawih prayer at the Kaaba. Even the slightest mistake can stand out to Muslims who know it well from all around the world.
Original mushafs
Some of these first seven mushafs have disappeared over time. Today, in Topkapı Palace and the Museum of Turkish-Islamic Arts in Istanbul, there are mushafs from Uthman and Ali's period. One of them was handwritten by Uthman, and the other two by Ali.
While the copy in Egypt was in the Mosque of Amr ibn al-Aas, it was presented to Ottoman Sultan Selim II and brought to Topkapı Palace after the conquest of Egypt.
Some claim that this is in fact the copy from Medina and that the last survivor of the Abbasid family took it with him while escaping to Egypt from the Mongol massacre. It is said that due to a blood-like stain on it, this is the mushaf that Uthman read while he was martyred.
Other mushafs belonging to the first period of Islam are displayed in Al-Hussein Mosque in Cairo, the Bibliotheque Nationale in Paris, the British Library in London, Hast Imam Library in Tashkent and other museums.
A newly opened museum in Mecca also features verses of the Quran written on bones and stones. The verses written on rocks and stones in the seventh century in Arabia have also survived to the present day.
But I thought the Koran was written by God perfectly preserved in Heaven ?
Where you found about " 33,000 companions...."?
@Jor Tra because muslim just learn only from thier sides .. We learn we need to see other resourses..
This video isn't in the "Reaching Muslim's" playlist like Part 2 is!
God bless Jay Smith his knowledge and speaker's corner voice ✝️🙏👍
7th : 2nd slide :minute 16:15; some verses disappeared .
The words used by Ibn `Umar for the terms given as “acquired,” “disappeared,” and “what has survived” above were - I am quoting from memory - respectively “ahattu” (I have encompassed), “faatahu” (escapes him), and “ma tayassara minhu” (whatever amount of it has been facilitated).
The actual meaning of Ibn `Umar’s words is: “Let no one say: I have encompassed the whole of the Qur’an [= its meanings]. How does he know what all of it is when much of the Qur’an escapes him? Rather, let him say: I have encompassed whatever amount of it has been facilitated [for me to know].”
Ibn `Umar was famous for his strictness in refraining from interpreting the Qur’an, even criticizing Ibn `Abbas’s interpretive zeal in the beginning, then accepting its authority. He was not referring to the collection of the Qur’an! But only to the ethics of the exegete, in the same line as Ibn `Abbas’s saying narrated by al-Tabari and cited by al-Suyuti and al-Zarkashi: “There are ambiguous verses in the Qur’an which no one knows besides Allah. Whoever claims that he knows them, is a liar.” Also Ibn `Abbas’s and `Abd al-Rahman ibn `Awf’s saying: “The Qur’an has an outward meaning, [literally ‘a back’] (zahr) and an inward meaning [literally ‘an inside’] (batn).”’
@The Nair Your main problem , my friend, is that you cannot defend christianaty !
Not only Muslims are tilling you that Christianity was made by unknown people and has lots of mysterious things , and you are not even trying to defend it .
Lots of Ex-Christians , Atheists and Jews are doubting the existance of Jesus , the authenticity of Bible , Who God is and origins of Christianity.
I don't see any true explanations of such a big issues , instead you start attacking Islam by what you really don't understand because of language and limited knowledge.
I wish someone help me to get such knowledge so that I can defend the gospel like Jay smith in my country
Emmanuel agyemang where do you live?
I suggest you to, Download or buy, Orthodox Dogmatic Theology, The Guide to Answering Islam by (Daniel Janosik) and the Religion of the Apostles. If you get those you are good to go
Nice.
Dear Jay as always fabulous presentation, it is my understanding the in the edict of Milan, 313 A.D., Constantine dictated benevolence to Christianity not necessarily making it the official religion of Rome.
I caught that too
In 380 CE, the emperor Theodosius issued the Edict of Thessalonica, which made Christianity, specifically Nicene Christianity, the official religion of the Roman Empire. Constantine protects the Christians with Edict of Milan.
@@proudamerican7662 my friend,after the counsel of Nicea,in Europe all hell broke out in Europe among the Christians, they began to fight and invade each others lands,there was no Christian love going on back in those days.I had European history in high school.
@@oceanblue4750 Muslims did not invade other Middle Eastern civilizations to spread Islam (if Islam even existed) to the North of Africa, Spain, southern Africa, all the way to India? Muslims were stopped by the Hammer at Tours, thank the Christian God. Did your HS teacher tell you it was by the sword that the Islamic empires were spread as were all empires? I don't get your point. The point is Jesus didn't teach violence and the Koran does. It's what the radicalized maniacs read and literally, zealously fulfill in the name of Allah. The point is we have separation of church and state and we can't persecute or kill people who have different religious beliefs.
They mixed up Abraham being throughn into an owen instead of daniel
I ALWAYS WONDERED WHY MUSLIMS ARE LIKE THIS? THANKS JAY YOU HAVE FINALLY SOLVED MY PROBLEM!!!!
Are there C14 dated copies of the earliest quran or not?
Wonder why no one can remember the bible word for word....hmmm
{"Jesus prayed to Almighty God therefore Jesus is not god"
Matthew 26:39 And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.
Matthew 26:42 He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done.
Matthew 26:44 And he left them, and went away again, and prayed the third time, saying the same words}
There are many christians who believe that jesus pbuh was only a human
@OTTO OCTAVIOUS - Hazrat Adam PBUH was created in heaven
@OTTO OCTAVIOUS - In both books he was made from the soil of the earth
@OTTO OCTAVIOUS - I pray that Yahweh through his holy spirit brings rise to biblical unitarianism and make it flourish till the day of resurrection
The fact that he talks about Islam instead if his religion shows that Islam is the truth
No, it is to dissect your shitty religion. Idiot.
Brilliant presentation !
As for the Syriac source for Isa, my Syriac NT has the name Yeshua.
The older mu'tazila school of theology and it's proponents like Al farabi and Averroes explicitly rejected the eternity of the Quran. It was only the later influential Asharite school that claimed it was uncreated.
If most Muslims do not read the Quran, where/how do they learn their beliefs?
Is It True That in Holy Bible Mathew 20:23 THE SALVATION OF MANKIND IS IN THE HANDS OF THE FATHER. "But to Sit on my Right hand and on my Left is Not Mine to Give, but it is for those for whom it is prepared by My Father.???🙏🙏🙏
Can you debate again with doctor shabeer Ali please????
dr Shabir Aly doesnt want to have a debate anymore whit Jay Smith.
@Lance Gin then you debate
The different Qiraat are widely accepted. There are even muslims who memorized all 10 authentic Qiraat. Jays narrative, that one form of recitation was chosen as canonical, is just not true. Yes Hafs is spread widely, but no one rejects the other muttawatir readings, not in tafsir and not in ibada.
Please increase volume, it's feeble.
This Is AMAZING? This is mind-blowing. People should see these videos. UNBELIEVABLE 😮😮😮😮😮. This Guy knows what he's talking about. This guy is SUPER AMAZING
GREAT WORK GOD BLESS U
125. Whomever God desires to guide, He spreads open his heart to Islam; and whomever He desires to misguide, He makes his heart narrow, constricted, as though he were climbing up the sky. God thus lays defilement upon those who do not believe.
126. This is the straight path of your Lord. We have explained the revelations in detail for people who recollect.
Come to Christ, all neutral sources claim jesus died on the Cross. GBU...
*POOR MUSLIM I FEEL SO SORRY FOR THE MUSLIMS WORSHIPING THE CREATOR AND NOT WORSHIPING THE CREATION WHO EAT DRINK SLEEP GOING TO THE BATHROOM CIRCUMCISED CRUCIFIED CRYING AND TO HIS FATHER WHY YOU LEFT WITHOUT HUMANITY MAKES ME SUFFER FOR THE SIN OF THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL*
8th : 3rd slide: some verses were forgotten .
I thought you already knew the Abrogagater and Abrogated in the Quran and Hadith !! yes Allah wanted them to forget the abrogated verses and hadiths .
2nd Lie: minute 3:20
J says : Quran was not completed at the time of Mohammad صلى الله عليه وسلم .
Aisha said : "Fatima, may Allah be pleased with her said : ( Gabriel was Ierdhana ( REVISED) Qur'an with me once a year, and he Ardhana (REVISED)it twice this year , and I see my end came for me, and you are the first people of my house to follow me) Bukhari (3624)
AND yes , if you are asking , she was the first to die after him PBUH, six months later , she was 28 years old.
Your different types of ugly claims and comments never sufficient to justify your devil mohammad allah's ugly dirty teachings.
Ex-muslim.
Give 51 names of islam's great prophets?🎂
How can any followers of Muhammad the pedophile claim to be descendants of Abraham if your god’s name is dushara not Yahweh? I understand why quranic scholars do not teach this. The truth hurts and destroys everything muslims believe. Put the paganism down and return to the true God, Yahweh. Repent to the Lord, Jesus Christ, and ask for salvation. Only Jesus Christ can give you eternal salvation. The quran and dushara don’t even offer salvation. Come home to Jesus. Peace be upon Grinch!
The Alexander storys in the coran are missing.
#IskanderArabicus
52. On the Day when He will say, “Call on My partners whom you have claimed.” They will call on them, but they will not answer them. And We will place between them a barrier.
53. And the sinners will see the Fire, and will realize that they will tumble into it. They will find no deliverance from it.
54. We have elaborated in this Quran for the people every kind of example, but the human being is a most argumentative being.
55. What prevented people from accepting faith, when guidance has come to them, and from seeking their Lord’s forgiveness? Unless they are waiting for the precedent of the ancients to befall them, or to have the punishment come upon them face to face.
56. We send the messengers only as deliverers of good news and warners. Those who disbelieve argue with false argument, in order to defeat the truth thereby. They take My Verses, and the warnings, for a joke.
57. Who does greater wrong than he, who, when reminded of his Lord’s revelations, turns away from them, and forgets what his hands have put forward? We have placed coverings over their hearts, lest they understand it, and heaviness in their ears. And if you call them to guidance, they will not be guided, ever.
58. Your Lord is the Forgiver, Possessor of Mercy. Were He to call them to account for what they have earned, He would have hastened the punishment for them. But they have an appointment from which they will find no escape.
I hope you forgive me if I don't reply to all comments , my problem only with Jay.
Some Shabeeha will try to shift the subject away .
NASHBAH MK so you have no problem with Mohammad rapping Ayesha and uncountable numbers and he claimed to be prophet you are sensible man
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the french version showing the proof of what he sais.. "."",""different words""different meaning"
as a french speaker, i can say they have the same consonance but the meaning is completely different
I would like to ask the Christians Jews and Atheists; Are you more knowledgeable in the Christians faith than all the Priests and church members in addition to the Jewish Rabbis who reverted to Islam over the years since the time of Mohammed PBUH? And more intellectual than all the professors and scientists who discovered the miracles of Quran and became Muslims?
may Allah protect us from these
liars
My dog ate my homework.
Didn't Averroes reject the eternity of the Quran? Along with mutazilah theologians like Al Farabi, and Avicenna.
this guy is absolutely delusional , the fact that he said most muslims dont read the quran i just had to click away
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allah the god who only knows arabic.
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And im aramaic he is still Alaha
Right from the start he misunderstood about lauhul mahfuz, what a joke.
The sheep ate my homework
Ate your home work? Is it Same sheep that save females from sex thirsty abdools?
@Halim Yacob
Are you sure, islam spreads 'peace'??
@Halim Yacob UNHOLY QURAN ALLOWS SLAVERY
What..........! The.............----?????? Hahahahahahaha.....bull's eye,,,,,!
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Quran Memorized and then written but Bible is only Written
Jay Smith, compare the abilities of the first four caliphs and the Byzantine emperors in terms of their ability to produce written manuscripts. Well, you can't do that because in terms of wealth, the first four caliphs were not at all like Cesar. Another reason is that the Quran can be miraculously memorized and then written down but the Bible can only be Written.
1). Most written Quran derived from memory
Jay Smith often questioned the absence of manuscripts of the Koran from the era of Usman (7th century) as evidence that the Koran is no longer authentic. But why did he ask that ridiculous question, because If we ask him, where are the first century Gospels written by Jesus' disciples. No one can answer that question either.
Jay Smith, compare the availability many Bible Bible with that of Quran. They cannot be compared them because the transmission of Quran is not mushaf (manuscript) but by memorization the whole Quran.
Memorizing the whole bible is something that people cannot do. But Quran is in fact the only sacred text that be completely memorized by people. This video shows someone that produces three copies of the Quran from memory (see at 3.00/3.50 min)
th-cam.com/video/qp5TvIyJHoQ/w-d-xo.html
The practice of producing a complete Quranic manuscript, totally from memory, has been practiced for more than 1400 years. Most of the written Quran before the invention of printing machines were derived from memory. Memorizing the whole bible is something that people cannot do.
2). The First Quran Manuscripts are Only for Backup
Of course the written manuscript is still needed as a backup. When caliph Abu Bakr order the first collection Quran, he formed a committee of four with the task of collecting Quran l from various sources including the memory of people.
This committee than compiled it into a single manuscript that later called the Hafsah manuscript. The purpose of this manuscript is for backup, in case something happen to those who memorized the Quran, some people may be due to one reason or another.
In Arabia in the 7 century, common people cannot read and write. Only a few people can read and write. Manuscripts Quran are not for everyday use like the priest or common people reading in church. What most people use everyday is what is in memory of the people at that time. So when people learning Quran they learn it by memorizing not by reading a manuscript.
Even today hundred million of Muslims still memorizing part of the Quran, even most of the do not understand Arabic Quran, and printed Quran are available in abundant. Muslims children are taught to memorize at least some of the last chapter for everyday praying.
Remember Quran is the only sacred text that be completely memorized by people, because it us revealed by God. No a single soul memorize the four gospel, let alone the whole Bible, because Bible is written by man.
3). A well known Fact
Remember the first Manuscript at Hafsah's house. This Manuscript used 30 years later by Caliph Uthman when he standardized the Quran. The committee appointed by Uthman did not simply copy the first manuscript, but they compiled the first manuscript with what was found for other written sources and especially what was in people's memory.
Jay mentioned that Uthman sent five copies to five cities. But he did not mention that, apart from the written text, Uthman sent people who memorized the Qur'an to teach people to read and memorize the Qur'an. This collective memory is passed down to the next generation and so on for 14 hundred years.
A well-known fact is that the Qur'an which is widely used in the world today does not come from a written manuscript (mushaf), but from the memorization of Hafs reading which is put into written form. This is the standard Quran printed in Egypt in 1924, and is now used by 95 percent of the Muslim world including Iran).
That is why there are not many old 7th century Qur'anic manuscripts, because the main source of the Qur'an is not the manuscripts (manuscripts) but by memorizing the Qur'an as a whole, then written down when needed to make a new manuscript, even though earlier written manuscripts of the Qur'an were available in abundance. It has been like that for 1400 years.
4). The first four caliph are not Caesar.
Another lie Jay Smith circulation is that caliph are like Caesars. Well that’s not true at all. With the exception of Uthman, the other three caliph a modest life, they are not rich at all. They are not absolute ruler like Caesar.
They are servant of people. People criticize them and on one occasion the sue Ali the fourth caliph to court on a dispute of trivial things. Something will never happen with the Caesar.
Caliph Umar, the greatest of the four caliphs, led an ordinary life. When he went to accept the conquest of Jerusalem, he went there accompanied only by one of his slaves, riding on a donkey, which he rode in turns with his slaves. He traveled through the desert for hundreds of miles. He did so without an army escort. This is clear evidence that the first four caliphs were not emperors.
The Qur'anic manuscripts in good, durable, and beautiful form only began to appear during the Umayyad and Abbasid caliphs. At that time, the Caliphs were really like Caesars, Rich and ruled with absolute power.
5). Quranic reading variation is a Fact
Reading Variations in the Quran is a fact. Muslims have known this fact for more than 1400 years. Here is a good video on Quranic reading variants (ahruf)
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Muslims have known these reading differences since the time of the prophet, At that time, the prophet even said that all readings are correct, because the Quran was revealed in seven ahruf (reading) style.
Muslims everywhere believe that the present-day Qur'an is the same as when it was revealed more than 1400 years ago. The Qur'an is codified by people who know the Prophet and had been ordered by the prophet to write Down verses of the Qur'an.
During the recitation of the Quran in public, variant readings are often read sequentially. Here is an example hafs and Sousi variants read sequentially
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So this reading variant is not something new, and Muslims have known this variant for more than 1400 years.
6). Seven Ahruf and Qiraat
Ahruf and Qiraat are two closely related word.
The word seven in Seven Ahruf is like seven heaven. Seven means many, ahruf is not really clear but from the context of the prophet saying it could be understood as dialect. Qiraat Is combination of several Ahruf
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A well known and easy to find an example of ahruf is the subtle difference is the word Maliki (ملك) in verses 4 of the surah, al-Fathihah (Opening). In one dialect it be read as malik meaning king, in another dialect Maalik meaning owner.
Both are correct, Muslims are free to choose which one they prefer. Since it was revealed until now, the word (ملك) Malik has always two ways of reading and two meaning. There is no theological difference because of that. Quran is preserved, even the variant reading are all preserved.
In a book entitled Bridges’ Translation of the Ten Qira’at of the Noble Qur’an. Explains clearly reading variants, between 10 qiraat of the Quran, and they are all can be found here.
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It It is clear that all variants reading between ten Qira’at can be conveniently put into one book by adding footnotes. In each of the pages, the position of one or two variant readings. This Book Clearly shows that the Quran consists of only one book, not 30 books.
This Book truly shows How amazing Quran preservation. Even all variants reading reported exist since at the time of the Prophet they are all preserved.
7). Example of The two main readings
There two main reading i.e. Reading of Warsh And Hafs. And also some other readings. If all dot And vowelization are removed we got the Rasm or skeletal text are the same. Native Arab can read And write in this form, but non native speaker cannot.
If these plain Quranic text is read by arabic native speaker, allmost all Will be read exactly The same Only a few word read differenty due to dialect. Some Will differ in pluraliity, gender or tenses. All reading are Okay as long as can be proved to have related to the Prophet.
Although The skeletal text are the same, There are some reading differences, muslim for more than one thousand four hundred years ago know this differences And quite open about it.
Don't think that there are so many Quran, because the differences are insignificant. Open this site check reading of Hafs and Warsh on the longest verses in the Quran.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verse_of_Loan
Well although there more than one variant reading, the meaning translate by many translator are similar.
8). Conclusions
So Mr. Smith you must remember these conclusion for the rest of your life.
a). Quran is word of God, and it is holly book, not like gospes a biography written by many Anonymous people and considered a holly book... Ha ha ha.
b). Don’t get upset when you cannot asked Muslim to come up with Old Manuscript, because the four caliphs weren't as rich as the emperor. The greatest of four caliph has to ride a mule to Jerusalem accompanied by only one of his slaves, without an army escort. This is clear proof that the caliph is not the emperor.
c). Quran main method of transmission is through recitation which can miraculously memorized by people and put in written form whenever needed. It will always be like that, even for the 20’th century when manuscripts are abundantly available, the new one are derived from memory.
😲 wOw!!! Praise be to Allah...
John 16. 12 : "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now."
Dick Harfield ,Australia ,said :
In the Bible, there are numerous errors of scientific and historical fact, and errors that result from contradictions; so many that it is not possible for me to count them. Here, I just provide a sample of some.
The two creation accounts in Genesis provide fuel for endless debates about the contradictions between the account in Genesis 1:1-2:4a and the account in Genesis 2:4b-25, even as pious believers fight a rearguard action to insist that the second account is just a retelling of the first. Errors of fact just in these two short chapters include chronology - for example that the earth is described as existing before the sun and stars, and that exactly two first humans were created just a few thousand years ago.
If Mark’s Gospel says that Jesus was crucified at the third hour (9 AM) on the day after the Passover feast, but John’s Gospel says he was crucified at the sixth hour (12 noon) on the day before the Passover feast (John 19:14), at least one of these accounts must contain errors - but which one?
Mark’s Gospel says Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome went to the sepulchre and, going inside, saw a young man; Matthew’s Gospel says Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to the sepulchre and did not go inside because an angel came down from heaven and spoke to them; Luke’s Gospel says Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Joanna went to the sepulchre and, going inside, saw two men in white; John’s Gospel says Mary Magdalene went alone to the sepulchre and ran back, without going in or near the tomb, as soon as she saw the stone had been moved. At least three, and possibly all four, of these accounts must be in error.
What you said about Christianity birthed in poverty is completely false. Look at the early followers in Acts and see that is furthest from the truth. However your work on the Quran is fantastic.
What if you are the Husband of 👰(Safiyya bint Huyayy) Muhammad come and kill you and your father and make sex with your wife ! 😉? what if Aiysha 9 👩Year (your Daughter) Muhammad 54 👴 year a "Pedophile" makes sex with your Daughter ! the 9 year . etc.... Quran Fantastik ? how Fantastik?
He is talking on a very large scale. State and Christianity being the rule of the day, until Constantine it was a poor religion, most people did not want to fund it, only a few did.
More evidence shows that it was the Apostles were the ones who canonized the New Testament.
What evidence?
@@gatmyne Read 2nd Peter 3
@OTTO OCTAVIOUS God did through the Holy Spirit however through human vessels.
@Dominic First evidence is in the New Testament particularly in 2 Peter 3
@OTTO OCTAVIOUS nonsensical
Dirham point is too strong.
Quran 85-22 doesn't support the first claim made in this video.
Claim 2 is obviously a matter of faith
Claim 3 is false. It was codified by Uthman in 652AD
Claim 4 is true, all recently discovered ancient Qurans are exactly the same as the one used today
The vast majority of Muslims read the Quran either in Arabic or in translation
Only a few minutes in and we are on the fourth false claim.
It is true that there are two ways of reading Al Quran, one to memorise and one for knowledge, they are not mutually exclusive.
I'm afraid this is yet another example of people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Most Christians have not read The Bible, most Muslims have read the whole of The Quran.
There are no substantial changes to The Quran since revelation, The Bible has had books added and removed from the year dot. Most Biblical Scholars accept that only 7 of Paul's letters were probably written by Paul.
Most of the New Testament was written in Greek, it's doubtful whether more than one or two of the disciples spoke Greek.
There are numerous discrepancies and contradictions in both the old and new testament, even the claim that the Messiah role followed by Jesus was clear in the old testament doesn't stand up to examination.
It appears Mr Smith is an extremist, whose interpretation of scripture, history and the teachings of other religions leaves a lot to be desired.
He can believe what he wishes, we will all answer to God in the final days, may God guide us all
Thank you for taking the time to write this
This guy is so convoluted that he does not even know that he is distorting basic fundamental issues. On second thoughts, maybe he does but he is lying.
Jay has utterly destroyed the foundations of islam.
This is an interesting bit of history.
25:48 Alexander the Great's iron and copper wall to keep barbarians out?
The Qur'an is a guide to murder, slaughter and terrorism.
Say in the interpretation of the verse: When the sacred months then kill the idolaters wherever ye find and take them and count them and Aqta them all repent, and they set up prayer and pay Zakat then leave their way} means the bulk of Hereafter, saying: {When the sacred months} If passed and went and came out, said to him: Slkhana month as well as Nskh Slkha and Slokha, meaning: We came out of it, and him as saying: sheep Mslokhh, in the sense: stripped of her skin director of it means months campus: the November, and the argument, and Muharram, or but I want in this place flayed taboo alone, because the software was innocently The day of the oldest Hajj, so it is known that they did not postpone all the sacred months; We have demonstrated the validity of that in the past. But when it was connected to the last two months before it, the two forbidden persons, and the last of them was the third and they are all connected to each other: And the meaning of words: If the sacred months have elapsed from the three who did not reign for them, or who have had their reign, Venqadwa reign Bmazhardhm enemies on the Messenger of Allah and his companions, or to their reign was known for others; {So kill the polytheists.} He says: So kill them (where you found them.) He says: Where you found them from the land, in the wilderness and in the swamps. {And take them} He says: And capture them {And confine them} He says: And prevent them from conducting themselves in the countries of Islam and entering Mecca. {And set them all observatories.} He says: And prepare for them with demand to kill them or their families every setting. It means: every path and an observation, and it is the verb of the saying that I have observed so-and-so that I observe it, meaning: his neck. {} Repent says the returned from what he forbade them from polytheism and ingratitude of the prophecy of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him to unify the worship of God and devotion to him, without gods and peers, and to acknowledge the prophethood of Muhammad, peace be upon him. (And establish the prayers) He says: And pay the limits of what God has enjoined upon them of prayers. (Let them leave their paths) He says: Let them dispose of your country and enter the Sacred House. We have mentioned the difference between those who were deferred until the infidelity of the sacred month. And according to what we said in the interpretation of that, the people of interpretation said. He said that as: 12793 - Tell us the top Abdul bin continued al-Asadi, he said: Tna Abdullah ibn Musa, said: Tell us Abu Jaafar al-Razi for spring, Anas said: The Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him: "From the minimum difference fidelity God alone and worship does not involve anything to him, leaves her and God bless him satisfied, "he said, Anas said: it is the religion of God, who came by the Apostles, and Bulgoh from their Lord before the playfulness of the conversations and the different whims and desires, so to believe in the book of Allah in the last what Allah revealed, Allah said: { If they repent and perform the prayers, and pay the zakat, then leave their paths. Then he said in another verse: {So if they repent and perform the prayers and pay zakat, then your brothers are in religion.) 9 11 12794 - Beshr Ibn Mu`adh told us: “Thana Yazid”, he said: “Than Sa`id,” on the authority of Qatadah, when he said: “If the next month breaks down, the next month
I studied every sources in islam ..
And I affirm that Whatever Mr. Jay said is appropriate and convincing...
Amen.....
Jor 353
Then you could not have studied islam as you claim.
Jay Smith is a big fat liar a failed missionary in "speakers corner"who also failed to attain a PHD,he constantly lies about Islam and the Quran and when challenged he runs away.
@@farookdinaully8029 sadly True
JDR 353 liar
@@Whatyousee1
Me 🤣🤣
Ok...
Read
Quran 5 ; 67
Quran 8 ; 71
Quran 52 ; 48
Sahih al bukhari 3175
Sahih Muslim 2190a
Quran 69 ; 44 to 46
Sahih al bukhari 4428
Sunan ibn maaja 1622
To know who is the real liar ......
You fool have been proved a lier by me
And I have proved your bible is fabricated you are not answering me.
Just trying to escape
Jdr 535
34:26
Actually, I'd beg to differ here.
I think Surah 3:49 came from the Arabic Infancy Gospel (AKA first infancy gospel of Jesus AKA Syriac infancy gospel)
The reason for this is because 3 verses prior in Aya 46, say Jesus spoke from the Cradle. We know where this came from, this came from the Arabic Infancy Gospel.
Along with the saying of "Jesus, Son of Mary." This phrase of Jesus also came from the Arabic Infancy Gospel and is seen 3 times. (Chapter 34, 37, 40)
The Arabic Infancy Gospel stole from the Infancy Gospel of Thomas for sure. Chapter 46 of the Arabic Infancy Gospel, has the same story of Jesus turning clay birds into live ones.
The writer of Surah 3, obviously borrowed from the Arabic Infancy Gospel.
READERS,
Please, read with critical mind an authentic translation of Quran with Arabic scripts. Make I guarantee you will change your mind.
Meanwhile ancient Kemetian ancestors are laughing "look at what happens when cultures plagiarize our culture our stories our philosophies steal our knowledge then create new religions from our culture, they use their religions to conquer the weak". Thus vid is wonderful and is a clear example of "if you live in a glass house, don't throw...." or, "kettle calling pot black". Here's an inconvenient fact, the new testament was written before thr old testament....but how you ask?? Simple, the bible was written in reverse n concepts were developed to match up with various texts, to create prophecies n theologies. Here's a big clue n a terrible error someone missed. It is written that Jesus referenced Abraham and in response the following was said " You're not yet 50yrs old how can you know Abraham? " (paraphrasing) in other words, the writer clearly slipped up majorly, forgetting that Abraham needs to exist over 1500 yrs before Jesus.. .ahwell, I'm fascinated by the unfolding, it's entertaining...
79. No person to whom God has given the Scripture, and wisdom, and prophethood would ever say to the people, “Be my worshipers rather than God’s.” Rather, “Be people of the Lord, according to the Scripture you teach, and the teachings you learn.”
80. Nor would he command you to take the angels and the prophets as lords. Would he command you to infidelity after you have submitted?
81. God received the covenant of the prophets, “Inasmuch as I have given you of scripture and wisdom; should a messenger come to you verifying what you have, you shall believe in him, and support him.” He said, “Do you affirm My covenant and take it upon yourselves?” They said, “We affirm it.” He said, “Then bear witness, and I am with you among the witnesses.”
82. Whoever turns away after that-these are the deceitful.
83. Do they desire other than the religion of God, when to Him has submitted everything in the heavens and the earth, willingly or unwillingly, and to Him they will be returned?
84. Say, “We believe in God, and in what was revealed to us; and in what was revealed to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the Patriarchs; and in what was given to Moses, and Jesus, and the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we submit.”
Dr Jay, perhaps it is not important which book is created or not created, but important is the ethics what we taught from its teachings. God himself and his prophet will never taught you and encourage you towards sex or God will never make unlawful to lawful for a prophet. This is unacceptable and insane.
Are you muslim?
Still you believe mohammad allah?
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There are very few Muslim posts here.
Everyone needs to pick up and read the Koran to understand the Moslem mentality.
"Know your enemy" - Sun Tzu
If noble Quran according to your admit it has been change or have different version like your christian bible.I would like you to challenge you we will see bring me to different muslim country in i will recite my Quran i learn if there is a change of words in there that thay have..
Theres about 30 versions of the Quran. I believe theres a TH-cam video that shows the differences in the various versions.
@@SI-ln6tc its better personal face to face any Muslims from different country I challenge you..
Our (non-Muslims ,non-Christians ) friends who are reading this discussions , I would like you to vote for which religion if you want to choose one , Number 1 or Number 2:
1. "O daughter Babylon, you devastator! Happy shall they be who pay you back what you have done to us! Happy shall they be who take your little ones and dash them against the rock!"
God was not merely saying that regrettable collateral damage might occur during wartime. He said believers should be happy - some translations say "blessed" - to kill innocent babies of those who are keeping you from worshipping your own god.
2 .But whoever kills a believer intentionally - his recompense is Hell, wherein he will abide eternally, and Allah has become angry with him and has cursed him and has prepared for him a great punishment.
1.The Lord will harass attractive uppity women by exposing their private parts.
"Moreover the Lord saith, Because the daughters of Zion are haughty, and walk with stretched forth necks and wanton eyes, walking and mincing as they go, and making a tinkling with their feet: Therefore the Lord will smite with a scab the crown of the head of the daughters of Zion, and the Lord will discover their secret parts."
2.. O you who have believed, let those whom your right hands possess and those who have not [yet] reached puberty among you ask permission of you [before entering] at three times: before the dawn prayer and when you put aside your clothing [for rest] at noon and after the night prayer. [These are] three times of privacy for you. There is no blame upon you nor upon them beyond these [periods], for they continually circulate among you - some of you, among others. Thus does Allah make clear to you the verses; and Allah is Knowing and Wise.
1."Hear and give ear; do not be haughty, for the Lord has spoken. . . . And if you say in your heart, 'Why have these things come upon me?' it is for the greatness of your iniquity that your skirts are lifted up, and you are violated . . . because you have forgotten me and trusted in lies. I myself will lift up your skirts over your face, and your shame will be seen."
2.And tell the believing women to reduce [some] of their vision and guard their private parts and not expose their adornment except that which [necessarily] appears thereof and to wrap [a portion of] their headcovers over their chests and not expose their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands' fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers, their brothers' sons, their sisters' sons, their women, that which their right hands possess, or those male attendants having no physical desire, or children who are not yet aware of the private aspects of women. And let them not stamp their feet to make known what they conceal of their adornment. And turn to Allah in repentance, all of you, O believers, that you might succeed.
1-"And if ye will not for all this hearken unto me, but walk contrary unto me; Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins. And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat."
2- O you who have believed, avoid much [negative] assumption. Indeed, some assumption is sin. And do not spy or backbite each other. Would one of you like to eat the flesh of his brother when dead? You would detest it. And fear Allah ; indeed, Allah is Accepting of repentance and Merciful.
1-"And Jephthah made a vow to the Lord: 'If you give the Ammonites into my hands, whatever comes out of the door of my house to meet me when I return in triumph from the Ammonites will be the Lord's, and I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering.' . . . When Jephthah returned to his home in Mizpah, who should come out to meet him but his daughter, dancing to the sound of timbrels! . . . After the two months, she returned to her father, and he did to her as he had vowed."
2- And do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden, except by right. And whoever is killed unjustly - We have given his heir authority, but let him not exceed limits in [the matter of] taking life. Indeed, he has been supported [by the law].
1-"Just then one of the Israelites came and brought a Midianite woman into his family, in the sight of Moses and in the sight of the whole congregation of the Israelites. When Phinehas, son of Eleazar, son of Aaron the priest, saw it, he got up and left the congregation. Taking a spear in his hand, he went after the Israelite man into the tent, and pierced the two of them, the Israelite and the woman, through the belly. So the plague was stopped among the people of Israel. The Lord spoke to Moses, saying: 'Phinehas, son of Eleazar, son of Aaron the priest, has turned back my wrath from the Israelites by manifesting such zeal among them on my behalf that in my jealousy I did not consume the Israelites. Therefore say, "I hereby grant him my covenant of peace. It shall be for him and for his descendants after him a covenant of perpetual priesthood, because he was zealous for his God, and made atonement for the Israelites.' '"
2- Say, "O disbelievers,I do not worship what you worship.1Nor are you worshippers of what I worship.2
Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship.3Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship.4
1- "See, the day of the Lord is coming - a cruel day, with wrath and fierce anger. . . . I will put an end to the arrogance of the haughty. . . . Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses will be looted and their wives violated."
2-O you who have believed, do not consume one another's wealth unjustly but only [in lawful] business by mutual consent. And do not kill yourselves [or one another]. Indeed, Allah is to you ever Merciful.
1- "And in those days the tribe of the Danites was seeking a place of their own where they might settle, because they had not yet come into an inheritance among the tribes of Israel. . . . Then they said to [the priest], 'Please inquire of God to learn whether our journey will be successful.' The priest answered them, 'Go in peace. Your journey has the Lord's approval.' . . . Then they took what Micah had made, and his priest, and went on to Laish, against a people at peace and secure. They attacked them with the sword and burned down their city. . . . The Danites rebuilt the city and settled there."
2-And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection, then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of Allah . Then deliver him to his place of safety. That is because they are a people who do not know .
1-"You shall acknowledge no God but me. . . . You are destroyed, Israel. . . . The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open."
2-(There is no compulsion in religion)
1-"The Lord said to Satan, 'Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one like him on the Earth, a blameless and upright man who fears God and turns away from evil. He still persists in his integrity, although you incited me against him, to destroy him for no reason.' "
(and do not kill your children for fear of emlak we are living and you, if the killing of them was wrong)
Which one looks like a book from God ?
1 or 2 ?
the original method of saving Quran not by writing in document , but Muslims they keep saving in thier momory, and till now they using this method, in fact Muslims believe Quran as sound even they not able to interprate the meaning, so the language and documentation in MOSHAF is only for organization.
◉ The word Mosque is called Masjed, means Prostration, It’s a place of worship, you cant prove that there was no place of worship used to be in Jerusalem at that time, a place nearby the rock of Moriah
Even if it was destroyed, it is a location of worship, it doesn’t have to be a fancy church or a fascinating building, we Muslims pray and prostrate anywhere, park, desert, car, plane or on a rock! That location was then constructed to be Al-Aqsa
◉ The verse that talks about David is not necessary a chain-mill as we know it today
It also could be a simple shield!
It could be David the first one who made it? Like you are assuming that historians know more than God?
◉ The word SLB in Arabic doesn’t exclusively mean on the cross shape capital punishment
There is no proof to assume Egyptians did not preform capital punishment on a stake even if historians didn’t find any proof it doesn’t mean that this punishment never existed at the time of Egyptian pharaohs.
◉ on Mary and Aaron, "The (people of the old age) used to give names (to their persons) after the names of Apostles and pious persons who had gone before them.“ because they thought she committed a sin, she was reminded of her family blood!
Like in other verse for people of ‘Aad’ and their brother Hood!
Still in Arabic culture, when glorifying a female, she is reminded of her clan as a sister of well reputed man in her family!
◉ AlQarnayn is not the pagan Alexander the Great, Most Quran scholars confirms that AlQarnyn is not Alexander who was pagan and war criminal!
AlQarnyn and story of Yagog and Magog is one of the final signs of end of the world, so for sure you will not find this structure now
◉ Dirham stand for a monetary unit, could silver, gold or copper. Its not the meaning that the actual currency was Dirham like the coin used in the Islamic era because the term was used from the Persians language
◉ Samaria the name of the character is Sameri, it is not said or mentioned that he is part of a group, in one conversation Moses says “Oh Sameyry” so either this person or someone with same name made it to Palestine as we all know that Jews went to Palestine him or his clan stablished the kingdom. Most cities in Palestine, I mean Arabic Palestine invaded by Zionists, were called after someone or something significant. You are assuming that Bible is the source of truth, its not entirely true book!
◉ The stories in the Quran that you claim taken from Targum sources, these points cant be proven, but lies after lies. In fact some historians find the Targum borrowed these stories from Quran not the other way around!
Awesome work !
All his study is use less as still perfect provable Quran from God available today and will remain unchanged all time
No it's not and you're an idiot.
He just proved it is man made you idiot. 🤣🤣🤣
@The Nair th-cam.com/video/uwSxSemmdDE/w-d-xo.html
The truth can really be bitter for some people to swallow.
Then why Uthman burn the original word of God and why in 1924 in Cairo they choose Haff as official Quran ..Why not Uthman the First man who recieve the quran from Mohammad ? Because in that period you guys choose who is the most popular ..
What’s the point of this lecture?
Of course we know that the Torah wasn’t written by Moses.
Of course we know that the New Testament wasn’t written by Jesus.
Of course we know that the Quran wasn’t written by Mohamed.
All of those document are full of inconsistencies, but then in which respect would that reduce their value for their respective communities of believers?
Well that is a simple question to answer. You say "Of course *we* know that the Quran wasn’t written by Mohamed".
Unfortunately, Muslims do *not* .
They are lead to believe that the Qur'an they read (strictly Qura'ns, as there are at least 37 Arabic variants) has been perfectly preserved since it left Muhammad's lips and an exact copy of his words is on tablets in Heaven.
Many Muslims have come to the understanding that the Islamic narrative they are familiar with is demonstrably fictitious and, considering many are devout believers in God, accept that not only are the Qur'ans value reduced, but rather decimated.
Ergo, some of the best apologists are former Muslims.
@@HaMashiachSaves Thanks for your answer. Let's agree that the Qu'ran is man made and not a pure divine revelation. As a consequence, all the sacred texts from abrahamic religions are to be considered as "inspiration" from divine sources, and not "direct revelation" from divine sources. Would you agree with me on that? Therefore, my question and concern is as follow : Why does someone from one religion faith try to diminish the value of someone else sacred texts? I suppose I don't understand the intention (the objective) of Jay Smith.
6 Quran Quotes That Teach Love, Tolerance and Freedom of Religion
Islam, according to the Quran, teaches love and compassion for every human being, no matter their religion, says author Adnan Oktar whose television show is watched by millions in Turkey and the Arab world.
He believes the problem for the majority of Muslims is that some groups are following traditions and superstitions invented centuries after the Quran was first sent and the Prophet lived, and these have gotten more radical over time.
After the attacks of September 11, 2001, Oktar published a book, Islam Denounces Terrorism. He argues that violent and intolerant beliefs about Islam go against the teachings of the Quran. Here, he presents six quotes that support his claim.
Peace is the Cornerstone
The word “Islam” is derived from the word meaning “peace” in Arabic. Islam is a religion revealed to mankind with the intention of presenting a peaceful life where the infinite compassion and mercy of God manifests on earth. God calls all people to live by the moral values He sets so that compassion, mercy, peace and love can be experienced all over the world.
“O You who believe! Enter absolutely into peace (Islam). Do not follow in the footsteps of satan. He is an outright enemy to you.” (Holy Quran: 2, 208)
In the verse above, Islam intrinsically calls for peace and fosters a life in absolute sincerity and honesty before God. Therefore it is vitally important for an individual to believe in God with his own will and aspiration, and observe God’s commands and advice through personal conscientious contentment.
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No One Should be Forced to Believe in Islam
“There is no compulsion where the religion is concerned.” (Holy Quran: 2/ 256)
As stated in the verse, no one can be compelled to live by Islamic morals. Conveying the existence of God and the morals of the Qur’an to other people is a duty for believers, but they call people to the path of God with kindness and love and they never force them. It is only God Who guides people to the right way. This is related in the following verse:
“You cannot guide those you would like to but God guides those He wills. He has best knowledge of the guided.” (Holy Quran/28: 56)
Freedom of Thought and Religion are Paramount
The Quran provides an environment where people can fully enjoy freedom of thought and freedom of religion and allows people to live by the faith and values they believe in. According to Islam, everyone has the right to live freely by his beliefs, whatever they may be. Anyone who wants to support a church, a synagogue or a mosque must be free to do so. In this sense, freedom of religion, or freedom of belief, is one of the basic tenets of Islam. There is always freedom of religion wherever the moral values of the Qur’an prevail.
That is why Muslims also treat Jews and Christians, described in the Qur’an as “the People of the Book,” with great justice, love and compassion. God says in the Qur’an:
“God does not forbid you from being good to those who have not fought you in the religion or driven you from your homes, or from being just towards them. God loves those who are just.” (Surat al-Mumtahana, 8)
Compete With Each Other in Doing Good
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Muslims who share these basic values believe in the need to act together with Christians and Jews. They therefore strive to eliminate prejudices stemming from provocations by unbelievers and fanatics. Jews, Christians and Muslims should strive together to spread moral virtues across the world.
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God explicitly states that the existence of people from different faiths and opinions is something that we have to acknowledge and welcome heartily, for this is how He created and predestined humankind in this world:
“We have appointed a law and a practice for every one of you. Had God willed, He would have made you a single community, but He wanted to test you regarding what has come to you. So compete with each other in doing good. Every one of you will return to God and He will inform you regarding the things about which you differed.” (Surat al-Ma’ida, 48)
In acknowledgment of this fact, Muslims have an inner love and compassion for people of all faiths, races and nations, for they consider them as the manifestations of God in this world and treat them with an heartfelt respect and love. This is the very basis of communities administered by Islamic morality.
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The values of the Qur’an hold a Muslim responsible for treating all people, whether Muslim or non-Muslim, kindly and justly, protecting the needy and the innocent and “preventing the dissemination of mischief”. Mischief comprises all forms of anarchy and terror that remove security, comfort and peace.
“God does not love corruption”. (Surat al-Baqara, 205)
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18 COMMENTS
P G
Feb 11, 2015 at 9:39 am
The Quran is like the bible: a big book of multiple choice. There are also many, many quotes in the Quran that say the polar opposite of these examples.
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P G
Feb 11, 2015 at 6:39 pm
To see these examples, do a search for “Skeptics Annotated Quran” and when you get to that page click on the “Intolerance” link on the right.
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kwilly1954
Dec 16, 2015 at 11:06 pm
You got that right brother .
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Hafis
Nov 16, 2017 at 8:10 pm
I am afraid you come to think just because you read some such verses without taking the contexts into account.
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OmarHassan
Apr 10, 2016 at 10:54 am
Lol you seem to have misunderstood the English translation. It literally says:
In 2:256 it clearly states the complete opposite of what you think..
La ikraha لا اكراه literally meaning “No forcing in the religion” So no compulsion in acceptance of religion.. get it now? You shouldn’t be pushed to accept it.
In the other verse, where is anything about me forcing you into religion, lol? Apparently there’s no contradiction with the first verse.
Thank you.
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Beccardi
Jul 30, 2016 at 9:50 pm
What about marriage to a muslim when you are not? clearly your MUST convert (forced) before marriage to a muslim man. contradiction indeed
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LOL123
Sep 21, 2016 at 8:42 pm
First off as a Muslim man I would like to apologize for the behavior of the majority of Muslim men out there. That being said, I would like to direct you to the Quran on this subject matter. The only restriction placed on Muslim marriage are pagans. If you are a Christian or Jewish, a Muslim is free to marry. Culturally Muslim’s can be perceived as distant and has much to do with the Islamic lifestyle. This is why it is a strong suggestion by the Muslim community to marry within the community. It is actually an explicit sin for a Muslim to request his potential partners conversion; as Islam clearly requires that, a convert, converts solely for the love of Allah.
Again I apologize for the behavior of some Muslim men and any negative impression they may have left you with, but I assure you True Islam (the Islam that teaches us to respect the teaching of Jesus and Moses, and considers all people of Abrahamic faith to be cousins) , not what you see in the media, is actually a beautiful religion. I truly wish you a wonderful day and hope you will look further in....
4th Lie : minute 6:45 ; Jay claims that Christians know who wrote the Bible
This is really a funny one , he knows only the first name of the writer and yet he claims he knows the writer .
The Vatican wrote your so called Qur'an
What was mohammed's last name again?
This guy does not fear death. There is no repentance when death comes. Ask the Muslims about there religion not a Christian. Ask the convert from your religion they will give you the truth.
TheNorigae the god we pray to is the same god you pray to minus Jesus and minus Holy Ghost. Just the creator. If that makes sense to you
The Christian religion was also invented centuries after the death of Jesus.
How much of an idiot are you? Early Christianity started in 27-30AD during Jesus' Ministry (Christianity *OBVIOUSLY* did not started centuries after Jesus's death why the fu©k would they?), Christianity began even before Jesus was crucified (Apostolic age 30-100AD)
How could the Koran be written by God and handed to Muhammad from Gabriel if it wasn't written until uthman ?
It wasn’t written nor handed
It was memorized then written
@@cheezy_nugget but why if Gabriel handed the book that's from heaven to Muhammad .... But instead of giving a book like islam claims .... Oh no it's from memory , memory is the best way to keep information like !!! ????? So blatantly false. That's why islam is threatened by a french school teacher ! Its a joke and if you make excuses for this God awful religion I feel the blood is on that person's hands as well.
@@cheezy_nugget because islam can not claim to be the religion of peace with tactics of war !! The people are tired of the islam word games ! Enough is enough , no more killing for religion no more making excuses for islam
صلى الله عليه وسلم
اللهم صلِ على محمد عدد ما في السماوات والارض
اللهم صلِ على محمد ملء ما في السماوات والارض
اللهم صلِ على محمد عدد ما بين في السماوات والارض
Translation:
Allah prays for him(Mohammed) and salutes him
O Allah, pray for Muhammad a number in the heavens and the earth
O Allah, pray for Muhammad to fill what is in the heavens and the earth
Oh God, pray for Muhammad a number between the heavens and the earth
@@johnchapian6939 allah prays for mohammed?Wow God prays for a sinfull man,What garbage
@@racheldass9043 I am glad you see that. Muslims don't realise the meaning of what they say when saying (swa) after mentioned the name of Muhammed.
How small is their God comparing to Muhammad. I hope you have put them to think. God bless you.
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those scholars are obviously lying or totally undeserving of their scholarship, that`s the only logical conclusion. They cannot even claim intellectual honesty.
6th Lie: minute 15:51 ( first slide :some verses were lost);
The author of the book:
He is Abu Bakr Abdullah bin Suleiman bin Al-Shaath al-Sijistani. Born in 230 AhHe is weak....His father accused him of lying.His ruling on the conversations is unacceptable to the investigators.This makes us question the validity of the novels that he is unique in the Book of The Qur'an."Al-Salami said: I asked Al-Darqatni about abu Dawood's son, and he said, "There is a lot of wrong in talking," and abu Daoud said, "My son is a liar."See: Balance of Moderation 2/433The lessons are 2/164.And Ibn Uday said in full in the weak c 4 / 226" ... Ali bin Al-Hussein bin Al-Junaid says I heard Abu Daoud al-Sijistani say my son Abdullah is a liar. Ben Sa'id used to say enough of what his father said in it.
Furthermore, Kitaab Al Masaahif contains narrations that need to be investigated on an individual basis in order to determine its authenticity. We can't just cherry pick what we like. We must rely on an objective standard such as the isnaad system, which filters out the weak and fabricated narrations from the authentic ones.
You are blabbing about man, all what your termed as lies does not even matter in the grand scheme of things. The historical mistakes in quran alone is a big dent on islamic claim that it descended from true God.
@@neyeeisaiah4353 what dent? It's questionable.
At least it never claim God is 3 or a man . That is a big hole you should worry about
3rd Lie : minute 4:30 ; Jay says Muslims don't read the Quran like Christians !
أنْكَحَنِي أبِي امْرَأَةً ذَاتَ حَسَبٍ، فَكانَ يَتَعَاهَدُ كَنَّتَهُ، فَيَسْأَلُهَا عن بَعْلِهَا، فَتَقُولُ: نِعْمَ الرَّجُلُ مِن رَجُلٍ لَمْ يَطَأْ لَنَا فِرَاشًا، ولَمْ يُفَتِّشْ لَنَا كَنَفًا مُنْذُ أتَيْنَاهُ، فَلَمَّا طَالَ ذلكَ عليه ذَكَرَ للنبيِّ صَلَّى اللهُ عليه وسلَّمَ فَقالَ: القَنِي به، فَلَقِيتُهُ بَعْدُ، فَقالَ: كيفَ تَصُومُ؟ قالَ: كُلَّ يَومٍ، قالَ: وكيفَ تَخْتِمُ؟، قالَ: كُلَّ لَيْلَةٍ، قالَ: صُمْ في كُلِّ شَهْرٍ ثَلَاثَةً، واقْرَإِ القُرْآنَ في كُلِّ شَهْرٍ، قالَ: قُلتُ: أُطِيقُ أكْثَرَ مِن ذلكَ، قالَ: صُمْ ثَلَاثَةَ أيَّامٍ في الجُمُعَةِ، قُلتُ: أُطِيقُ أكْثَرَ مِن ذلكَ، قالَ: أفْطِرْ يَومَيْنِ وصُمْ يَوْمًا قالَ: قُلتُ: أُطِيقُ أكْثَرَ مِن ذلكَ، قالَ: صُمْ أفْضَلَ الصَّوْمِ صَوْمَ دَاوُدَ صِيَامَ يَومٍ وإفْطَارَ يَومٍ، واقْرَأْ في كُلِّ سَبْعِ لَيَالٍ مَرَّةً فَلَيْتَنِي قَبِلْتُ رُخْصَةَ رَسولِ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عليه وسلَّمَ، وذَاكَ أنِّي كَبِرْتُ وضَعُفْتُ، فَكانَ يَقْرَأُ علَى بَعْضِ أهْلِهِ السُّبْعَ مِنَ القُرْآنِ بالنَّهَارِ، والذي يَقْرَؤُهُ يَعْرِضُهُ مِنَ النَّهَارِ، لِيَكونَ أخَفَّ عليه باللَّيْلِ، وإذَا أرَادَ أنْ يَتَقَوَّى أفْطَرَ أيَّامًا وأَحْصَى، وصَامَ مِثْلَهُنَّ كَرَاهيةَ أنْ يَتْرُكَ شيئًا، فَارَقَ النبيَّ صَلَّى اللهُ عليه وسلَّمَ عليه،
الراوي : عبدالله بن عمرو | المحدث : البخاري | المصدر : صحيح البخاري
الصفحة أو الرقم: 5052 | خلاصة حكم المحدث : [صحيح]
Bukhari 5052:
In this authentic Hadith Abdullah Bin Omar says:
The prophet PBUH asked me : How often you complete reading the Quran ? I said :daily .
He said read it once a month , I said I can stand more than that . He said : read it once a week , I said I wish I accepted that because i got older and became weaker, then some of my family started reading the Quran for me .
Do you have any idea who edited the quran first and which parts?
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Al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “ The Ummah unanimously agreed that the Qur'an should be magnified at all, disparaged and preserved. They unanimously agreed that the one who disregarded any of the characters in which he is unanimous , or has increased a character that no one has read, is a scholar who is a kaafir , and they are unanimous that those who disregarded the Qur'an or something, or recited the Koran or dumped it in a dirt, or lied with something that came from the judgment or news , Or denied what he proved or proved what he denied, or doubt something of it, which is a world of disbelief »
[See: Sahih Muslim by explaining al-Nawawi (6/88).] .
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Please answer me who edited quran first?
Which portion has been edited?
Stop wasting time take up the challenge.
Quran 2:23
And if you are in doubt about what We have revealed to Our servant, then produce a chapter like these, and call your witnesses apart from Allah, if you are truthful.
A life wasted, imagine a career spent just to bash someone else's faith and beliefs, for a stupid thing like religion.....
This is what happens when people from social sciences, religious studies, liberal arts..etc do not find a career ... LMAO